Anime fans aren’t done with 2011’s winter season – the previously featured diagram alleging all the anime are but staid rehashes of overused element has been expanded to cover even more anime featuring an overbearing heroine browbeating a wishy-washy protagonist against the tedious backdrop of a Japanese school…

The diagram now covers Gosick, Infinite Stratos, Freezing, Yumekui Merry, Kore wa Zombie?, Dragon Crisis, Madoka and “Ochinko” (Oniichan no Koto) – as before, the three elements are a harsh heroine, useless male protagonist, and school setting.

Anime producers can probably be forgiven the succession of egomaniacal female leads, but the inability to construct meaningful male protagonists and the perpetual reliance on a school setting speaks either of creative enervation on their part or a fanbase completely obsessed with weakling schoolboys at the mercy of crazed schoolgirls…

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    Comment by minirop
    13:52 14/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It's not the anime that you should blame, but the original work (manga, novel, game, ...) when it's not an original anime.

    Comment by 666
    14:03 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    No. You should blame God, who has sent all this ideas in mangakas heads. ^_^

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    Comment by Homu Improvement
    15:40 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Why blame the source, they can choose a different manga to make into an anime, they keep choosing stuff that they think will sell so them come up with the same stuff to turn into an anime.

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    Comment by minirop
    05:00 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    or blame god 'cause he don't send ideas in mangakas heads so they keeps using the same things.

    Comment by H-Ero
    13:47 14/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    The only winter anime I've watched so far is "Kore wa Zombie desu ka" and from what I can tell from the first episode, the male protagonist isn't "useless".

    Plus, I don't exactly mind the fact that there aren't many good anime coming out right now. I watched a lot of new anime last year, but I put a lot of my games and manga on hold while I was doing that. Now that there aren't many new anime that I want to watch at the moment, I'll be able to give more of my attention back to games and manga.

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    Comment by VillainousHanacha
    15:49 14/01/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    You know the kind of Anime fan I hate the most?

    The kind who says nothing but things like: "The Anime Industry is Dieing, The state of the Industry is, The things Wrong with the Industry are, Today's Anime is always, etc, etc..."

    If you have that many things against Anime, then why the FUCK are you calling yourself a fan!?

    A couple of things on the matter. One, do you realize that these are trends, and that trends go in cycles? It happens with clothing, it happens with food items, it happens with Movies, and it happens with TV, Anime included. Don't talk in terms of absolutes when Anime has shifted focus multiple times in the past.

    Two, has it occured to you people that your tastes in Anime may NOT be shared by all? I for one like school life, but if you don't, whatever. No water off my back, I do understand it's not for everybody. But don't make broad assumptions that Anime is supposed to be one way or another, or that everybody got into Anime for the same reasons or has the same tastes.

    Three, why does everybody have this assumption that Originality automatically means quality? First things first, I highly doubt anything can be truely original in this day and age, but that's besides the point. Was Railgun particularly original? No, but hell was it entertaining! Was Bakemonogatari totally original? No, because even though it contained many subversions, it also played many things strait, and it utalized common archtypes to base their subversions off of in the first place. How about Black Lagoon? No, that's every Hollywood Gangster and Gunslinger Trope in the book, and it's still crazy awesome! Even Baccano, something many call original, is based off of many countless American Mafia flicks (which Ryogo Narita says himself). The point is that while all these things aren't superbly original, they are all awesome, and great Anime to watch. Execution is a hell of a lot more important that a concept.

    And finally, are your Nostalgia Goggles so clouded that you can't realize not all old school Anime is Eva or Cowboy Bebob!? You know why you think Anime in the past was always great? Because one, the bad ones would just be forgotten in the dregs of time, just like any Mediocre movie is quickly forgotten and crushed beneath the newest blockbuster. And two, before the wide spread usage of the Internet, bearly any Anime came to the west, so anything good is not seemingly buried or surrounded by crap.

    Ha.... I'm done. Sorry for nerd raging.

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    14:15 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Please allow me to give you a medal. I always wanted to see someone to finally stand up and counter back all those self-proclaimed old-timer people who do nothing except bashing stuff just because they see the new shows different from what they did in their childhood. They're annoying the same way as G1 Transformers fanboys loathing Bay's Devastator because it didn't look humanoid and wasn't formed by jumping vehicles.

    Also, I need to agree on the fact that The Internet plays a huge role in changing the view among watchers on the full range of anime genres nowadays. It's the same way how it (internet) can simply change someone's perspective on a country or any subject like how Vacation fliers that tend to say this or that country is peaceful and clean can be easily busted by blogs, articles etc. from the Net that reveal the ugly (and also the good) side of the subject.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:08 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't call myself an anime fan. People who do are fucking dumb. It's like saying you're a "food fan"

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:53 26/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What I hate even more is fags who call anime a "genre."

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    Comment by Ryan Saotome
    13:47 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Why is generic bad? All I care about is if its enjoyable to watch... for me, quite a few shows this season (Zombie, Yumekui Merry, Beelzebub, Madoka, Oniichan) have been enjoyable to watch. Isn't that why we watch anime in the first place? To have fun, and not to just be pessimistic and try to find reasons not to like stuff?

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    Comment by Timotei
    13:55 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    right? seems to work out most the time anyways...

    If its not broken, why fix it? having said that, there are a few repetitive things, however, I would change...

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    13:58 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Repetitive things are the only familiar things I notice & some of them need to be changed but I won't exactly point any of them out though...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:04 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Artefact is saying there is no originality involved. Same settings are overly used. I would like to try new flavors once in a while :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:56 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, that's why you watch anime. I watch anime for the same reasons I watch or read any other kind of fiction: To experience something interesting made by someone else. Not haphazardly created shit that panders to the lowest common denominator.

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    13:51 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    "fanbase completely obsessed with weakling schoolboys at the mercy of crazed schoolgirls…"

    This may have something to do with it, or not...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:56 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    We are all masochists.

    Comment by 666
    13:59 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Unfortunately I must agree with you. ^_^

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    13:59 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am anything but that good sir...

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    Comment by Neko Musume Classic
    13:44 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    "a fanbase completely obsessed with weakling schoolboys at the mercy of crazed schoolgirls"

    That's my favorite genre...

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    Comment by Hatsune Miku
    14:55 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.5)

    I still don't understand, what's so bad about it? As long as it's entertaining, isn't that what Anime is all about?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    There can be too much of a good thing
    Basically all in moderation most people are over saturated from the last three seasons in these type of settings so people want some variety

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:12 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.1)

    Apparently people no longer look at character development in anime these days.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:24 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like all of mentioned Anime, apart from Stratos with I somehow missed.. that will be fixed soon. No idea why that rage. Its really hard to come up with something that wasn't done before, since there was gazyllion of anime series made already. Those series aren't that bad, I saw many worse (like the one with russian boy reenergazing by drinkin milk out straight from huge boobs).

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    15:23 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They do which is where we get to the problem here, they are judging the characters too soon, I haven't even judged the heroine in Gosick yet as it is too soon to say anything about her characters or any other anime character really...

    Of course there are the other things they are complaining about like the setting & what not, but it is basically the same imo...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:39 25/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh, shut up, anon. let victorique bask in the sunlight for a bit. don't like it, don't watch it, don't give a shit for anyone who likes it, is that your creed? i'm pretty sure some of the "anime" you've seen isn't altogether that creative or that worked-hard on either. and in case you haven't noticed anime is not going to be called anything other than "anime" no matter if it's good, bad, craptastic or spectacular. go watch some pico, why don't you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:52 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The concept of people watching anime because of artistic value, commentary, a well-told story or anything that defines quality of any fictional work in every other form of media has apparently been lost.

    Anime is dead and you people are fucking stupid for joyfully guzzling the shit these people are dumping on you. It's not like it's your fault though, since you were probably never had the capacity to enjoy or even spot something created with integrity to begin with. Fuck you people for making anime a genre instead of a style. Fuck you people for watching anime "because it's anime". Fuck you people for everything.

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    Comment by james
    21:29 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    thats exactly how the loli/fan-service craze began. and how did that end? with a big fat nation-wide ban. moderation is they lacking ingredient.

    Comment by Anonymous

    its insulting to our intelligence, thats whats bad about it. they think we'll just drink up the same old crap without even a single unsatisfied peep. kudos to you, artefact, for giving this the attention it deserves.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 25/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i think there are a lot of crappy anime, and that there are easily as many crappy reality shows. what pains me is that people are complaining about the idiocy of 2d when the stupidity of 3d goes applauded -_-

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:41 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    As long as the same shit is anime and not boring 3D cartoon, and regular cartoon shows like the shit they spew at pixar, Nickelodeon, and even Cartoon Network nowadays, I do not mind at all.

    I'll gladly drink the shit out of all the main (loli) heroines of all the new anime.

    (opens mouth to eat straight from the source)

    Comment by Anonymous

    It's just a fad, the same reason practically everything on primetime US television nowadays is either a crime drama or "reality" TV. They'll move onto something else soon enough, and then make almost nothing else but that for several years. That's just how things work - always has been and always will be. If you can't enjoy it then just wait it out with another hobby because there's no sense whining over immutable realities.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    17:04 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    This gets me thinking... why don't some anime tries to do a school vs school setting? Since we get so damn many schools going on, may as well have a school rivalry anime.

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    Comment by King Tiger
    18:39 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Shippoyasha


    Comment by SpectatorMode
    04:48 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thought they kind of did that with Ookami-san

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    Comment by King Tiger
    18:38 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    the industry is only giving what the fan base wants~

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:09 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nothing wrong with pandering to the base now and then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:00 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Every single anime = now and then?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:15 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree!!! IS MINE TOO!!! Basically schoolife.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:01 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why don't you just watch hentai then?
    Seriously, how many animes in the last season had an actual plot, good writing and tongue-in-cheek humor?
    How many had real suspense, real drama?

    But hey, of course I just get downvoted for this because people don't want to discuss about these matters anymore, right?

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    Comment by megaman007
    00:04 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    a little raipu will fix that up.

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    Comment by Travis
    04:57 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I want to see more anime where the main male lead is a total badass and the female is a timid little girl jumping at her own shadow. It'd really be nothing but a reverse of the current trend sure, but it might shake it up a bit to make it interesting...

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    Comment by Dia
    22:35 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's my favorite genre too. Though weakling schoolboys are not required.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:12 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the guy went, "screw these bitches, I'm not doing this", there wouldn't be anywhere to go, would there?

    Although they could always just drop the male protagonist.

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    15:26 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Then they need to stop it with the bitches then I would think, there are other kinds of ways to portray a heroine you know...

    That being said, they need to do something about the male lead's development as it is never all that good in most anime...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It gets old. In fact, it already got old.

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    Comment by POKI
    14:38 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    my favorite genre... is when i get to see a nice boat.


    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 14/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Yes, but they also put out Level E to see if it will be sucessful to test us. We should support it. Someone tell 2ch people to buy Level E.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)


    Hell, let's see this chart again, this time with EVERY show from this season. Fractale? Wandering Son? Level E? Beelzebub? Fuck, even Wolverine?

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    Comment by POKI
    02:20 15/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Level E is a good manga... i forgot where i left off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:06 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why is Madoka in the diagram? I didnt know she was a "useless male protagonist"...
    At least I can look foward to some hot loli/futanari doujinshis in the future....

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:11 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Read it wrong anon says
    Anime producers can probably be forgiven the succession of egomaniacal female leads, but the inability to construct meaningful male protagonists

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:56 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Inability to construct meaningful male protagonists -> Leave them out altogether -> Madoka Magicka.

    SHAFT for president.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    15:13 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Don't forget tentacle raep. You can't have mahou shoujo doujinshis w/o tentacle raep.

    And considering the "witches" look like puke, you're gonna need a lot of tentacles and yuri

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    Comment by Anonymous
    15:14 14/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    STFU troll

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    15:59 14/01/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.7)


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