Nintendo: “Batteries Under 10 Hours = NG” (3DS = 3 Hours)
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jan 9, 2011 08:51 JST
- Tags: DS, Marketing, Nintendo, Satoru Iwata, Technology
Nintendo’s CEO is being quoted as saying handhelds with a battery life of under 10 hours are “absolutely meaningless,” after his company just announced the 3DS only has a 3 hour battery life.
Nintendo CEO Iwata was previously quoted rubbishing the PSP for having a short battery life:
“For games, it is absolutely meaningless if your console doesn’t have a battery life of 10-20 hours.”
The 3DS has a battery life of “3-5 hours” in normal 3DS games, and a 3.5 hour charge time.
He is however true to his word in another 2004 interview:
“I actually don’t think you can’t use the DS for things other than gaming.
However, to make it do all kinds of things, and to give it all kinds of functionality, you end up pushing up the price, making it bigger, and reducing the battery life – this is a mistake, I think.”
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I'd have to charge it for 3.5 hours for only 3-5 hours of gameplay? WTF. Doesn't the DS last way longer than 5 hours. Why would they make a handheld that is a regression from what they have done in the past?
Honestly, I feel like the 3DS is meaningless. I haven't seen a single reason to shell out my hard earned money for it.
>Why would they make a handheld that is a regression from what they have done in the past?
3D tech takes up too much power?
I wonder if they're letting themselves get flabby and lazy since they don't have any real competitors in the hand-held market.
PSP is the 3rd best selling system this generation. They have competition.
ermmmm its selling well but its not competition .
What makes you say that? Nobody considered original Xbox competition to PS2 afterall, you know. Things can change. When a system makes many significant problems with a new system, then it opens up the possibility for competitors to take the crown.
>Honestly, I feel like the 3DS is meaningless. I haven't seen a single reason to shell out my hard earned money for it.
It's worth buying because it's gonna have lots and lots of awesome games.
Yes, the PSP is a competition of the DS! And not the 3DS. If Sony don't announce a PSP2 soon, the 3DS will really be the only "nextgen" handheld on the market.
Lets be honest when 3DS releases it's gonna destroy the market like Nintendo usually does, the same happened with the wii (on release) but then thats all that mattered, after such profound sales it's so infamous it still sells reasonably. Nintendo are clever because they know how to market well, and that is all what it comes down to.
There is apparent proof that sony is working on a PSP2 under the code name VETA, look up PlayStation Portable successor on Wikipedia
The Android and iOS devices are the 3DS's competition, the latter specifically stated as so by Nintendo.
So far Apple's proving to be the current threat since it's hardware is capable of high detail shaders and is developing a large library casual and hardcore games (Like a really nice portable version of Battlefield Bad Company 2).
Haters going to hate, but that's just how it is right now.
As for the PSP2, well it's going to be a powerhouse hardware wise and it does have a Ready By Dawn "Uncharted" title as one launch title, so wouldn't count it out (but not much more than that).
Next Gen? The 3DS doesn't has better graphics as the PSP, they are just 3D.. so sony isn't really that pressed. Besides, for what? Why does everyone develop for the PSP right now? Big Playerbase and low Production Costs. If they shell out a PSP2 with far better graphic they just destroy themselves.
My PSP lasts for 12 hours gaming time. Thank god for replacement battery packs that can hold more power than the regular PSP battery. SUCK ON THAT DS FAGS.
Graphics don't automatically make things next gen as we've seen with nintendo's trolling but the Graphics are better than the psp as we have seen through various sources of gameplay, there just not up to console level i.e. ps3/360. Also to the guy that can play his psp for 12 hours, good for you, shows how much time you have to waste on a dying console.
Is this troll Nintendo day, or something? :D
Some of this is just too stupid to even work as trolling, though...
Iwata is a great guy, a much better CEO than Yamauchi ever was, but looking at what Iwata said then, and looking at the 3DS now (not that I don't like it, I'm foaming at the mouth for one), it IS, undeniably, facepalm-worthy.
Anyhow, time to debunk the idiot trolls... or are they just the usual Sonytards being, well, Sonytards?
1. The PSP is selling great, I mean, they actually weren't booted off the market like every other handheld that went against Nintendo's. But competition? That's not even remotely true. The DS is outselling the PSP by a 3 to 1 ratio. That's not competition no matter how you look at it.
2. The smart phones ARE not Nintendo's enemy. That was just some idiot reporter misquoting Iwata. See for yourself:
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/04/nintendo-not-concerned-about-competition-from-apple/
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/23/iwata-iphone-not-a-threat/
And you don't even need a quote from the execs to figure out that much. It's obvious the smart phone has expanded the market (people that want to play games 10-15 minutes at a time and not invest huge amounts of time like one would do for ACTUAL games like Phantasy Star Portable 2 and such) and not taken it over.
3.
3. "Next Gen? The 3DS doesn't has better graphics as the PSP, they are just 3D.. so sony isn't really that pressed. "
Herp derp herpity derpity derp. Derp.
Okay, you stupid, misinformed 'tard, the PSP does not support modern day effects like normal mapping, bump mapping, per pixel lighting, HDR rendering (though, one or two games try to EMULATE it), gamma correction like the 3DS does. That already makes the 3DS leagues ahead of the PSP in terms of visuals, and if you you're going to pull the "PSP HAZ HIGHER RESOLUTION LULZ" card, then take into account the aspect ratio of the 3DS's screen and its pixel density: 3DS games will come out looking just as crisp and sharp if not more so than the PSP and doesn't suffer from dithering like it does.
4. "My PSP lasts for 12 hours gaming time. Thank god for replacement battery packs that can hold more power than the regular PSP battery. SUCK ON THAT DS FAGS."
Great. Another genius. GUESS WUT?? MY DS LITE LASTS 20 HOURS, SUCK ON THAT, YOU STUPID SONY COCKRIDING IDIOT. >_>
The 3DS is using a 1300mAh battery, and anyone that is familiar with battery tech. would be able to tell you that battery is better than anything used in any of the DS iterations. The 3DS's CPU and GPU are most likely killing the battery, though...
Aaaaand that's it. :)
I am still getting this system, as long as it doesn't get any worse before it's released over here...
$300 dollars is much for a handheld though so I can't get it when it's released, it's too fucking expensive at $300...
Instead of boasting about hardware, how about considering how many actual fun games each console has? Seriously what's the point of a handheld console if it doesn't have any fun games?
I'm getting the 3DS, although not at launch. That'd be insane expense that I don't have.
1 word: POKEMON
If sony doesnt come up with a game that can compete with POKEMON, they will never beat nintendo in handheld systems
3D id a freakish annoying hype. What if I don't want it in 3D? Not to mention, ever watched a 3D moving without getting your eyes incredibly tired? great.
You can change the amount of 3D effect. You can even get rid of 3D altogether and simply play the same games in 2D and have extended battery life.
Dear misinformed anon... You can actually turn off the 3D mode, and simply use it as a "normal" DS. Nintendo actually advises this for players under 6 years of age.
Yeah, and then you have a console with the graphics of a psp just with a higher price tag and no library to speak of. Oh, and an even shorter battery lifetime than the PSP. xD
Erm...the battery life extends if you turn of the 3D. Also, graphics of a PSP? The thing can play games in freaking HD when it's not using 3D. Also, try actually looking at the list of games already confirmed for 3DS.
You can't turn off the 3D, it is still rendering the double frames for the effect, the 3D slider only turns the effect off on the eyes. It won't extend battery life. To extend battery life, you have to use the dimmest backlight or turn it off (if that is possible).
Ha ha ha no.
Turns off the 3D effect on the eyes? What the hell nonsense is that?
When the slider is at minimum it renders zero 3D. Which means it's not rendering TWO frames any more for the STEREOscopic effect. It's rendering ONE, like virtually every other screen conceived.
In theory, this is half the rendering work, and could increase battery life by as much as 80%. A full 100% isn't possible because the system must perform the same amount of physics, AI, and other assorted calculations. It simply just needs to render half as much.
I don't believe the system will render "HD" like another anon said, however, because the games simply aren't likely to just upscale everything on the fly. Even if it were simply rendering HD, battery life would not improve significantly over rendering the 3D effect as it would have the same amount of pixels to push, simply in a different manner.
He is however true to his word in another 2004 interview:
“I actually don’t think you can’t use the DS for things other than gaming.
However, to make it do all kinds of things, and to give it all kinds of functionality, you end up pushing up the price, making it bigger, and reducing the battery life – this is a mistake, I think.”
and yet they went ahead with it anyway.........
someone facepalm on my behalf because I've lost all will to do so myself now....
*anon facepalms*
But the real problem with his statement is he used a double negative. He could also be quoted as saying, "I actually [do] think you [can] use the DS for things other than gaming."
becouse of hardware and battery limitations.
"Why would they make a handheld that is a regression from what they have done in the past?"
They know a lot of people will still buy the 3DS when it comes out, regardless of how short it's battery life is. Giving it such a small battery life leaves a lot of room for an upgraded 3DS in a year or two that those same people will buy as well.
Just like the original iphone users.
Professor Layton is reason enough!
Stop hyping the 3DS like it's anything other then a PSP (look at the specs) with gimmicky 3D that is more akin to a magic eye picture (once again, read the explanation of how it works, and why you don't need anything like glasses for it), and a camera.
You can turn on the nintendo fanboy mode all you want, but the information is widely available and true..
Throw in the absurd price tag, the ridiculous release titles, and realize it's only consumer base really will be pokemon fans...
Unfortunately, I'm not playing the specs; I'm playing the games. I don't give ten fucks if PSP2 had a Core i7 with a Tegra2, I'm getting the system with motherfucking PHOENIX WRIGHT VS. LAYTON on it. The 3D effect is more like a cherry on top of an already delicious cake.
Also, you do realize that every negative point the 3DS has, will only be worse for PSP2?
Even worse battery life, higher price leading to less developers (as usual), and maybe only a handful of decent games (as usual).
Don't get me wrong thou. If Sony manages to prove me wrong on those points, I'd get a PSP2 in a heartbeat.
we also have to consider that once the 3ds is release there will also be the third party developers coming up with good and silly ideas to improve gaming experience such as a more powerful battery -_- and the silly gimmicky once which for now will still have to hold, im still looking at you inflatable wii go-kart
Someone wants to trick themselves into thinking NDS or 3DS titles have no popularity whatsoever!
Because it isn't a regression on all fronts. The 3D is awesome, and the graphics are better. $300 better? Not in my opinion, but I know many people who're going to buy the thing the very instant it appears on the shelves.
Also, while the battery life sucks, it will be more than adequate for most people.
Its not like it matters. How many people are going to be playing it for more than a couple hours away from a source of electricity anyway? Still, our battery technology is getting pretty laughably archaic in light of all these fancy new portable gadgets we're drooling over year after year.
I have to agree, the only things really that've been coming out with amazing battery life now-a-days are from Apple...
And there's a reason for that. Do you know what it is?
Because with every other device you can swap out the batteries all day and the only limit to the play time away from a powersource is how many batteries you can buy?
Yeah, thats probably the reason.
Y'know, it'll be allright if they would sell a separate batteries for cheap. You could charge two batteries and just swap them, thus having 6 hours.
Batteries tends to be the weakest thing in many mobile devices.
Even better if they made a cheap charger for several batteries at once.
3DS is gonna bomb. I mean it'll still be the #1 handheld, but PSP2 will give it a really big scare next gen
PSP2 has to have some killer new features otherwise I don't think it'll survive......
PSP2... killer features... it's already said that the PSP2's ganna have 1gb of ram and a processor half as powerful as the PS3 so it's a monster already speed wise. The Graphics are going to compare to early PS3 title games too... so we know it's ganna have mind blowing graphics... what I wanna know now is how is the battery ganna be, weather they're going the route of the PSP Go for design, and weather or not it's ganna have physical games... or if they're ganna fuck us over again with UMD's.
Mean't to say Fuck us over again with Downloading games and not being able to use our UMD's...
er the psp was half the power of ps2 and it was amazing when it was release but that don't stop nintendo ds winning by miles.
Yeah. The N64 was better than the PS but still they lost like some shitheads. Don't speak of the PS2. The Wii and the DS are still far away from the almighty PS2. But well, nintendo has a big player base, being the only system that is developed for kids under the age of 12.
All that about hardware features is good and all, but the most important thing as always is how many games it's gonna have and if they're gonna be any fun.
While I love my PSP1000 because I could do a bunch of stuff besides playing games, I haven't got a wide variety of games I liked to play in it. I think I liked less than 10 games, and four were Patapon 1 and 2 and Locoroco 1 and 2. I haven't played a PSP game in a long time, meanwhile I just finished playing 999 for the NDS (killer game, especially for those who loved Ever17 and F/SN)
Then again it's probably because I'm not that partial to the kind of games released for the PSP.
yeah and 20 min of battery life .
#1 handheld =/= bomb. I agree that if Sony plays their cards right and make a decent PSP2 to combat it, Sony will pretty much roll over it, but it's likely to go the same route as the Wii--they'll sell way more than they could ever need to early, take their money and laugh to the bank.
Oh God, this can't be serious.
As always, your comment + your avatar = LMAO
It's classic...