Lara Croft Even More Macho: “We Need Less Sex Appeal”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jan 1, 2011 17:02 JST
- Tags: Character Design, Oppai, Remakes, Square Enix, Tomb Raider
The creators of the new Tomb Raider game, which features a new-look Lara Croft who is some combination of the adjectives “gritty,” “realistic,” “macho” and “filthy,” have spoken of trying to reduce her sex appeal – the perfect recipe for commercial success, and one quite familiar to Square Enix watchers.
The latest images of the new Tomb Raider:
Whilst few could deny the graphics themselves do look impressive (they would have to be, considering the game is now in direct comparison to the Uncharted series in more ways than one), the usual caveats about pre-release screenshots apply – i.e. that they are completely fanciful.
Speaking about the new design, the developers claim they wanted to “soften up” the character:
What dropped away pretty quickly was the hardness that she had. She is strong and we love Lara Croft for that strength, but she was almost so strong that we were always one step away from her.
That was one thing that we all agreed on right away – to try and soften her up enough so that you could step into her life. All of the character design decisions came from trying to make her believable. We didn’t want to make her a sexual object. She is a character that we want you to believe in.
“Softening up” apparently constitutes covering her in muck and bandages and making her pout a lot.
The developers also talk about taking care to strip the new Lara of much of her sex appeal:
We did some initial tests where we brought in the vision for the new Lara Croft, and then we matched it up against the previous iterations.
In the tests of the previous iterations it was clearly evident that people moved around the image more to the items and her chest and her waist size. But with the new image, people spent most of the time piercing her eyes. Anybody who has seen the image says “I know that girl.”
A game which certainly has all the makings of Square Enix’s outstanding reputation for quality.
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>A game which certainly has all the makings of Square Enix’s outstanding reputation for QUALITY.
Fixed.
i hope the gameplay makes up for it
(but then again this be wada's Enix we're dealing with here so...)
This is the reason Square Enix doesn't understand wester gamers.
To be fair, it's western developers making it. Square only publishes the game. They're not making it themselves.
Also, we don't know if Lara cleans up after the shipwreck.
western developers you say? then i am very disappointed in this so far
alright which one of you in-equality now moralfags bitched about lara's sex appeal!?
so many typos Artefact. surely you mean MORE sex appeal right? i mean, who in their right mind would make a less sexy Lara Croft? WHO!!
They simply used the wrong words. Her breasts are wonderful and hemispherical, they never needed to be giant, and her hips are nice and wide without being strange. They shouldn't have used the words they did, because she's hotter than she's ever been. The problem is they didn't seem to realize that her design was a joke to begin with. Nobody really took the design seriously, she was a bad ass woman DESPITE the design, and that was the charm and irony.
As for softening her, that is the correct direction, however it depends on one major thing: If the person who described her wasn't articulate enough to properly use the word 'soften' and it means something much deeper, or they're going to turn her into the new Samus, whom I've been told does nothing but bitch and has given up all of her perceived bad-assery in so doing.
All they need to do to soften her up is very, very simple, and as an animator I know exactly how to do it. If she complains about something, make those instances very very few and far between. Her humanity will show up if you make her breathe harder, grunt more in pain when she's injured or exhausted during cut scenes, or generally show a very pained expression on her face if she is wounded for very brief instances, but rarely faltering.
It's a very powerful and descriptive moment if a strong women is gritting her teeth in pain or strain, with her eyebrows knitted together, and for a brief instance, the eyebrows raise into a sad slope, she whimpers at an injury for a split second, then inhales through her teeth, growls, and gets up and keeps going.
That thought process is all they need in their writing and design ideas to soften her up just enough to humanize her like never before.
Now... are they intelligent enough to do it right...
I want good story, designs, and BOOBs..
I never got into tomb raider anyway, although I only played the 1st, 2nd and maybe 3rd ones, during their time, when I was pretty young. I remember locking the butler in the freezer, then being able to shoot at him in another game (dam that bulletproof tray), running through the house to unlock the secret acquarium and secret trophy room and driving through the huge underground quad-bike course. My memory is useless but I am sure that probably covers whichever of the games I played :P
If I know anything about western game markets though, unless this game has one of the most kick ass of kick ass stories and insanely good gameplay... its going to crash and burn. I trust SE to deliver neither of the above.
Anonymous
19:36
i want game play
she already looks sexier than ever, now give her uncharted 1 like game play (im not even thinking they could manage a 2 or what we have seen so far of 3 level game play, but 1 should be doable)
give her some lines to say, possibly bitching about the current circumstances, not in a whiny way, but in a "the fuck was i expecting, now what" way.
heres hoping they make a game i want to play.
@Unsung's Lolita
What so you like your women to look ugly as lara did in the past? Huge lips, big tits, no thanks.
lara has long overstayed her welcome
for me it was since day one cos her design looked god awful even back in my teens where i believe her niche should have been
its fitting that square enix organizes her funeral
im actually pissed about this. i bet square enix commanded the devs to this. lara was perfect in underworld
I would think that after Underworld that a simple wardrobe change would do the trick but I guess they had "other" plans...
Oh well, didn't really find Lara that sexy in the games except the newer ones anyway so...
@Majineko and @ Lawence Codye while I personally thought that the Legend version of Lara was the best the two of you have a good point.
And while Houselife's 19:09 comment makes some good points Lara was about seeking out mystical artifacts in her father's footsteps and finding out what happened to her mother among other things that is why Legend's storyline was so good (even if the game held your hand in true Japanese RPG style...).
Tomb Raider Legend also gave Lara a bit of an archrival in Amanda while what Houselife said could make the "shipwreck" reboot cliche story bearable I seriously doubt the current developers will do anything but try to copy off of Uncharted.
oh stop bashing the game before it came out . I like new version more , old one looked like some weird alien
I actually REALLY like the new realistic, athletic, girl next door kinda look. She has the body of a real female athlete, which Laura Croft's character is. But I dont like that she's missing her signiture dual drop-leg holsters.
yea seriously those pants gotta go.
She looks more like Tanya, from red Alert if they include Dual Bareeta.
Just include the Flaming Apocalypse tank, and Huge Blimp in the background, and it will hard to tell the difrence
people are just joining on the hate bandwagon here, SC says it's bad and everyone agrees with it, pretty simple formula
why think for yourself? forget it, just let others decide...
Seriously I object to you guys, she looks much more hotter than before believe it or not. Those tight pants reveal her ass much more than those crappy shorts and the singlet phwor...
The other ones were too stupid not much imagination and too straight forward, I rather this one more realistic more normal looking perfect waifu.
We hate her new look, so we're just going to ignore that fact that this has some of the best graphics in gaming history, right?
I'm loving this! Old Lara did have hueg lips and disproportional everything.
I like a strong female lead in anything I play or watch and Lara has always done well in that role, but I didn't enjoy her old 'sex appeal' because I don't find hueg boobies as appealing as smaller ones. New, younger and fit Lara is much more desirable and closer to my age and perhaps the target audience in general so I'm giving a big thumbs up for this and I look forward to p.laying it regardless of how it's playstyle is
That's not to say I wouldn't totally bone Angelina Jolie as Lara, but I'd much rather a version of her +/- 5 years of me.
I like the new look and to be fair, Crystal Dynamics did a lot of good with the series. So lets hope Squenix doesn't meddle too much and lets them work in peace...
agreed, the 'old' Lara has illogical waist size, she looks like some unknown humanoid creature rather than woman
just now it hit me
lara is a woman
i always thought it was ETs cousin...
"illogical" waist size? Her waist is 24 inches. My waist is 23, perfectly natural and normal for some women. The fact she had a small waist and wide hips (35 inches) was something I adored about her. SO damn beautiful that waist and those hips.
I agree. I love Tomb Raider games. I grew up playing them. Lara was my "idol" for a long time and I still have respect for the character. But her appearance really improves with time. I like new Lara.
And although I'm disapointed a little because the game won't deal with archeology anymore, I still think it may be a great game. From what I've read, it seems like they put a lot of effort to this one.
I'm really looking forward to this game.
I agree. I think she looks nice here. Maybe even better then in the previous games.
macho is good! as long as it's not a macho (i.e. a guy) who's being macho.
but the rest of the game graphics don't look all that impressive... we'll see.
meanwhile at square enix headquarters:
>hey, you remember all those things in our long running franchises that people liked all the time?
>yeah, what about them?
>let's... you know, just take them out.
>FUND IT!
those guys are fucking retarded and deserve to go down
No its more like,
>hey, you remember all those things in our long running franchises that people liked all the time?
>yeah, what about them?
>that was 10 years ago, people dont like that anymore. Its time we make something that pepople do like.
>fund it
i think they might be onto something. i didn't care for the original tomb raiders because of the horrible camera and clunky controls. a game that tries too hard to sell based on sexiness has a 50/50 shot at success. a game based on believable characters, competent controls, well written story line, and smooth gameplay has about a 90 percent shot at a big hit. the other 10 percent depends on whether or not people know it exists. this, a well known series has that extra 10 percent in its corner. if it is basically a female drake and it works, i'll play it.
"...considering the game is now in direct comparison to the Uncharted series in more ways than one"
If the gameplay ends up ripping off the Uncharted series then to hell with them. Dont touch what's perfect, stay the hell away.
The way I see it, Lara had her time in the spotlight, let her die somewhat of an icon from the days long past when she reigned.
I dunno what you guys talking about. This new Lara looks epicly cute to me, and her pseudo-machismo here is a wein. Think of Levi from Black Lagoon. Now that is one heck of a woman, and Lara just came closer to my ideal.
My taste's doesnt include weak whiny girls. I love strong woman who enjoys fuckign the shit out of men and dont concern themselves of petty morals
Well yeah, but as you said just look at Revy. Every single person who knows her will agree that she's a badass motherfucker who can kick the shit out of you and yet she ca still wear her short jeans and small T-shirt. Yes she's hot but certainly her awesome badass character is a stronger element than her boobs or ass.
So why can't Lara be Lara without changing her style and becoming a different person like Revy is Revy?
If they think her lips or boobs are too big then just make them a little smaller but keep her style with her shorts and her twin guns.
Eventually, with time, she'll become loli croft
And I'm okay with that.
Who isn't?
Well, it doesn't look bad. I'm more worried if the gameplay works.
She looks pretty good once you enlarge pic1
I can't say I ever liked Tomb Raider games but...
I'll just say that I really didn't like how Ada Wong dressed like she's going to Academy Awards rather than some remote place deep in Spain, seperated from civilization by a thick misty forest and a fucking river down a deep cliff in Resident Evil 4.
...But Laura Croft has always been about sex appeal...
Apparently it was always about stunning gameplay and narrative structure.
Which is exactly why Angelina Jolie of all people played her in the films. The amazing narrative structure, of course.
Actually Angelina Jolie did more damage to Tomb Raider than Square Enix.
What can we say about those crappy rape-games movies of hollywood ?
Angelina Jolie did more damage to Tomb Raider than Square Enix.
If Square Enix has no say in the direct creative input of the actual game (made by Crystal Dynamics), then all these arguments are kinda void =/
Crystal Dynamics owned by Square Enix, is now a subsidiary of them.
Just go to his website [http://www.crystald.com/,]http://www.crystald.com/, you can see logo:
© SQUARE ENIX LIMITED 2010
Square-Enix, from the best of my understanding, generally knows when to sit back and let the reins go. I believe most of the internal issues with recent games aren't necessarily related to any one thing they've done wrong or right, but someone dropping the ball in recognizing the changing world around them. FFXIII was on that track, but they jumped the gun and left out that which anchored people to their source. They forgot that gamers like being reminded of the past more than anything, and everything must touch elements of their childhood or they get reminded that things change over time and feel threatened :D
I liked the story and game play of the first one so...yeah. A 'cute' model (yes it's dated but what isn't?) didn't hurt.