China has banned its media, publishers and websites from using foreign language words, particularly English ones, in an effort to preserve the glorious purity of the Chinese language from being defiled by corrosive barbarian influences.

China’s General Administration of Press and Publication says the infiltration of barbarian languages has “seriously damaged to the purity of the Chinese language” and resulted in “adverse social impacts to the harmonious and healthy cultural environment.”

Existing bans on the usage of barbarian words in TV and radio will also be strengthened; language criminals who flout the new regulations face criminal prosecution.

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    Avatar of Akumaten
    Comment by Akumaten
    01:45 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    this ethnocentrism is so destructive

    Comment by 666
    01:57 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    No, it isn't. It makes the nations great, but... then destroys them. ^_^

    Avatar of kazaza2
    Comment by kazaza2
    01:54 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Even English uses borrowed words or words with roots from other lanuages. That why its always evolving.
    The bigger and more restrictive the goverment, the more stupid and assinine the regulations. Control,Control,Control.

    Comment by Rashid Hasbun

    like taco and burrito?

    Most of people on USA don't speak another language than English or don't have a second language

    Are you been in Japan or China? most of people don't talk English and don't have a second language.

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    Comment by shinryou
    02:39 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Most of the people in the US come from a different country originally, and those people all brought parts of their language into American English. Their country is only 234 years old and many of its current inhabitants came there much later than that and are only like 3rd or 4th generation.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    02:25 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    04:29 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Rashid,what languages can you speak?

    Comment by Rashid Hasbun
    03:26 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    English isnt my native language also (I also know a bit of japanese) but Im talking about the regular population.

    (btw, congrats for study another language)

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:38 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Dear god, this is south park level irrationality.

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    Comment by Fronzel
    01:31 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    A number of non-Anglophone countries do this, actually.

    Like France.[/punchline]

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:52 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)


    There are some "suggestions" of french expressions for replacing the too numerous english ones in the media, but they sound so silly (corner kick = coup de pied de coin) that it's still pretty minor and people don't really use them. And more importantly using english words is still not a crime, as far as I know.

    So : only in china

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    04:19 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    like how'd one say "sandwich" in French?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:03 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    isn't Sandwich the name of the guy who created sandwiches to begin with ?

    So it's neither a french or english word to begin with.

    And yeah sandwich in french is sandwich. You can also say "casse-croute" or "casse-dalle" but it's familiar so you won't hear it in media

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:55 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huh... "Sandwich" :-p

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:56 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Oh no we don't.
    Government do. People don't give a crap.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:30 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    France don't do it at all. Open any magazine from France and you'll see that theres a lot of trendy expressions in english.

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    Comment by Risui
    02:17 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Thing is, who cares about France doing it, China is in the spotlight in Sankaku for a long time so it had to be pointed out and laughed off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:18 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm french and it's not the case. You mistook us with Quebec, they are much more protectionist about the french language than us.

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    Comment by TC-man
    02:26 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Wait, doesn't China introduce the simplified Chinese characters to replace the traditional Chinese characters - mostly characterized with more strokes, which are still used by Hong Kong Chinese and Taiwanese. So talking about purity of the Chinese language here makes no sense at all. Otherwise bring back the traditional Chinese characters instead using those simplified aberrations which, in my opinion, are no Chinese characters at all.

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    04:47 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @TC-man,yea,Simplified chinese is much easier

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    Comment by Carrot_Glace
    13:03 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And they're horrible. Mao, ironically, had a beautiful writing.

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    Comment by nemesis
    01:28 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)



    Comment by Anonymous
    02:04 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    can they spell "failure"?

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    05:06 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    to those who actually study english in China would,but those who don't would probably think

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:44 14/02/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sauna and chocolate are both borrowed. Barbarian temptations。 What about dildo ? ^O^

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    13:46 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    肥了came first

    Comment by Anonymous

    "肥了" is copied from FAILURE.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    01:30 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    As always.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:14 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    china strikes again

    Avatar of HouseLife
    Comment by HouseLife
    05:15 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Honestly, we really should be trying to get the labor back into our countries. Cheap labor is not the way of the future because all it leads to is dangerous items. The unfortunate reality seems to be that corporations really are the pathway to the safest and cheapest mass production of objects. Really if our health care in America does iron out the issues that were obviously going to happen at the start of a brand new system over the next few years, then in theory smaller business can give health care and match safety regulations and such in factories while robotics will become cheaper and cheaper over time.

    I'm not an expert in any of those fields of course, but in my experience most things that seem complicated tend to have simpler solutions than those who are in the industry seem to think they are. They're just wrapped up in how things were compared to how they could be.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    02:34 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    Most Wanted Men in China

    1. English Teachers
    1. English Reporters
    1. English Authors
    1. Foreigners
    2. Japanese...

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    Comment by OhYeah
    02:36 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    LOL, I remember that. My relatives were all over me when I could speak English like a madman.

    But hey, maybe we should hope that they start going into the North Korean syndrome? Then it can fail on itself.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    03:04 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)


    Well, I could care less if they headed in that direction, but the rest of the world depends on cheap labor, which they happen to have in an abundance.

    But then if they do, where are my figures going to be made?!
    My Kuroneko isn't until April, dammit!

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    Comment by Crim
    04:23 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.3)

    There goes China's tourism

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:57 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    have to agree with Anonymous 03:23
    most of my friends that not taking interest when watching english film in our childhood days, can't speak english at all

    I know my english suck, but I still understand most of them, compared my friends that have zero interest

    syllabus isn't enough to build your knowledge you know ...

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    Comment by TFish
    05:22 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I agree with you House, Cheap labor wouldn't be needed because slightly more expensive products made in our home countries would be just as affordable with how the economy would stabilize once all those jobs are held by current citizens and not imports.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I learned English and German from TV and got myself a C1 diploma in highschool for both.

    What you're saying makes no sense. Rather, children should learn as many languages as they can as early as they can.

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    Comment by alidan
    11:52 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    skilled labor. sweat shop like factories for clothing may have to pay a bit more, but india will fold to lower wages for unskilled.

    skilled, as in things like making pcb and the like, that will cost more than china, but china is about 1/4 the cost of american labor when they have to directly deal with americans, ill assume 1/10 the wage for when they dont have to.

    so that would be around 1-2$ an hour, 40hours a week (assuming, for sake of argument) comes to 40-80$ a week, china pays those people 8$ a week. and we dont know what they get payed, we just know what they pay.

    it would be the difference of an iphone costing 12-18$ in assembly (i forget the real price but its probably less than that) and costing 20-30 in assembly, most things wont cost all that much more.


    the labor is cheap because we like cheap things. and i mean the real cheap things, like a wallmart shirt.

    there are other places, that if the labor was moved from 1$ a week to 10$ an hour, even though they would still pull profit off items at current prices, they would hike them. like nike shoes.

    it could honestly crash industry if we move away from cheap labor. suddenly minimum wage isn't enough, so we would have to pay more in welfare, or raise minimum wage, which would in turn hike prices a bit more, and tax people who can afford it more.

    i beleive there are altunatives, but you have to look at the cause and effect.


    again, price hikes, minumum wage, and other things need to be taken into account. and it wouldn't bennifit us in the beginning, things would need 10 or so years to balance out with how slow everything moves in the government.

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    Comment by TNinja
    10:22 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, now China lost one of their bigger incomes. What do they plan to do now?
    Sell hairy soya sauces?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:11 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    regarding commercial relations and how it is affecting the future, i was glad to see some chinese were denounced for trying to gain a contract through bribes. i always wandered how they kept receiving all the deals and all labor contracts since is common knowledge that they lack not only quality but the smallest of safety measures. i still remember how Mattel how to pull off many toys from the shelves due to poisonous paint used in their toys, not to mention the Fiasco with the He Man collectors club Hordak Figures.
    how can it be a good deal
    making business with China if you either loose money for the bad quality of your product, or by the law suits?
    only bribes and extortion can explain this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:53 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I thought Bejing Olympics promote speak English?

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    Comment by Yama-jii
    13:12 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 3:23

    Yes, children should learn as much language as they can. But how much can you learn from TV(not from an educational program) Yes you may be exposed to bombastic languages but how bout your grammar? That need to be learned from class and from communicating with others. If you say TV can be used for an exposure to the language, yes. TV can also refine what you have already know about the language. But if your grammar or basic understanding of the language is weak, you will tend to misuse the language.

    I mean you got a diploma in English and German, but have you not attend a single class for it? Or maybe your learning abilities are very good. I have watched anime for years and all I know is watashi, baka, wait in Japanese. And I still don't know how to put them in a sentence.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:25 26/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    English today is a conglomeration of every other language in the world. Looking through an English dictionary will reveal thousands of words adopted from other languages (primarily European). Anyone who speaks only English who tries to learn another language is always surprised to find they already know some words in the foreign language they are trying to learn. Restaurant, à la carte, attaché--from French; Bonsai, haiku, origami, tycoon--from Japanese; Caio, feng shui, Chop suey, Ginseng--from Chinese, and so forth. In fact, just do a search for "_language_ words in English" replacing the word language for any foreign language you want. There are even Swahili words commonly used in English.

    Chinese, on the other hand, has very few words stolen fro other languages, so the comparison is not accurate.


    Comment by Anonymous
    01:03 24/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So they are removing the most spoken language in the world :). Oh well.


    Oh yes they do, trust me boy. An unknown source said "in a data entry company they earn $2 bucks an hour, if they make a mistake they pay them $2 for each mistake made."
    How that passed in India I got no idea. My idea is to bomb the whole world and restart it all over again.

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    Comment by alidan
    19:59 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i honestly believe that chinese and other languages that borrow from that type of language (20000+ symbols) should be dissolved as a language.

    im not being racist, im just being realistic. those kind of languages are a nightmare to learn (in written form) in english, american english, there are i believe 26 main characters, and than after that there are at least 52 secondary ones which are modified with ' and other things. if japanese just had the simple language it would be ok, because you can learn mostly from context in the spoken, haveing the kanji is almost unnecessary in written, because learn the context.

    but thats just my take on language

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 24/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    I believe that English is not the most spoken language in the world, as IIRC it's in the 4th place among other languages.

    Ironically, Chinese is the most spoken one, unsurprisingly considering the huge Chinese population all across the globe (with the majority in China).

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:44 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    *Rubs Eyes*
    *Reads again*
    *Slowly closes browser and pretends the article never existed*

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:17 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    05:33 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fear not Yoshii-kun! We are the superior people in this world.. You, me, and every otaku who lurks around here! We come from all across the world, using the power of the interwebs and we share common interests and a common idea of what is right and what is wrong. We shall form our own virtual country, and produce manga, anime, figures, dakimakura, shimapan, and other products we find necessary. There will be happiness, profit, and we shall win at life! Hurray!

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    Comment by HouseLife
    06:54 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You reminded me about import tariffs as well, TFish. Those can get pretty obscene as well, although I don't know by how much, I've only heard that they can be quite high.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Thing is, India's smart enough to not tolerate cheap labor like we do :(

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    Comment by Ecchi-BANZAII
    05:09 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Why can't I rate your post higher than 1.0 Yoshii-kun???

    It needs a 10.0 rating.

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    Comment by Yama-jii
    21:16 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    To be honest I understand their effort. You see most Chinese are born, well, in a Chinese environment. They will most likely speak in Mandarin or Cantonese. And children are easily influence by the media. When the people on TV are speaking in English they will try and follow it. Yet, they don't really know how to use that language properly. So they'll end up mixing up the two languages(that is why they have singlish in Singapore)

    Those that are born in an English speaking environment will not really understand this because there is only one language to learn. But when you have two major languages to learn, they often get mixed up. In the end the Chinese language will have a bit of English and even vice versa.

    So in conclusion I think that they are trying conserve the quality of their English too. I also think that any language should be learned properly and not from TV. But artefact, the title is kinda misleading, I thought that they banned English entirely. Well I'm no China supporter as most of the commenters here but I think that we should be fair and try and understand them too. I just hope that they are not dumb enough to ban English from their education syllabus.

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    Comment by alidan
    04:45 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)


    in all honesty, moveing from china labor to india would take what? 1, 2 years? and thats for computer parts, shirts and other things like that would be under 1 year.

    i can go that long while waiting,

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    Comment by Anonymous
    00:34 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't know, American Cars are pretty shitty too..and they are not made but Cheap labors, in fact, they are quiet expansive

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    Comment by ItsDemo
    04:18 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous

    A time to drop some glorious foreign nukes on China is at hand. Behold the Glorious shine of burning China1!!!11One1One!!11!

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    Comment by PikachuEXE
    07:51 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Why we don't ban Chinese government (only)
    for "Sullying Purity of Humanity"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:45 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes. They do not want their garbage being sullied by other garbage.

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    Comment by nemesis
    22:20 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    can they still use engrish?

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    Comment by Pin
    20:49 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by BlaqCat
    11:52 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I saw this article and just thought "wtf? isn't this the nation that touts the fact that it has so many students "fluent" in english"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:54 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    you cant sully a septic tank

    Avatar of TC-man
    Comment by TC-man
    02:43 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Um, sorry, did ANYONE read the damn original article instead the text here at SankakuComplex? The original article got a totally different tone (i.e. less negative) than the one here. The original article is talking about "mixed English words in publications" and "Arbitrary use of English words and acronyms" and "acronym mixing in Mandarin and coined half-English, half-Chinese terms" which are not in the original spelling in the Chinese and/or English language, with other words: incorrect use of these mixed/hybrid words. There are no words about a total ban of the English language or any other foreign language.

    Misleading = MISLEADING

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    Comment by Artefact

    The original article is from a Chinese state-run propaganda rag.

    The same story from a British state-run propaganda rag:

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    Comment by King Tiger
    07:42 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Arte:The same story from a British state-run propaganda rag

    i lol'd ^ cuz its true

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:10 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Sure, and imprisoning people for that is of course not nearly as bad.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Author of sankaku and his folowers dont like everything that is or comes from china .

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    Comment by Ciscotaku
    05:20 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    maybe cause everything that comes from china is either, poisonous, gross, xploding or any other type of fail...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:34 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If you ask me... this isn't as bad as the other BS that China does. If you think about it, China speaks chinses and many dialects of it and thats it. English is very irrelevant for a massive population where most of it only speaks, know and learn chinese without really seeing a forign word except in main cities.

    Its a dumbass ban just like most Chinas stuff, but not that bad.

    Shit I dont care. I dont ever want to step foot in China ever. As long as they dont touch Taiwan, they can do whatever they want.

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    Comment by madaraluka93
    09:31 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And this is other peoples business?WHY?
    It's their country their rules...
    Don't care...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:07 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're just doing what France's been doing quite some time. China adores English in daily life - having a working knowledge of English is a requirement for all high-end jobs there.

    I get the impression that they're trying to get rid of Engrish with this new legislation - fat chance, I think, though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:13 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Agreed, @Chinese government go suck a big fat one.(I have nothing against the Chinese citizens because I don't know any so I can't judge them, only the government.)

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:03 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why don't you go back to fapping to your comics.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kinda wonders where anon 17:03 meant to comment lol
    Also I was watching a non filler of Bleach tyvm
    Sorta spoiler below
    Waiting for Spirits are always with you to appear tsk next ep lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:30 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    right China. Maybe you should stop putting out simplified chinese cuz your older generation that grew up with traditional can't read that simplified shit your barbaric young generation seems to be fond of.

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    Comment by Marik
    05:12 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    why don't they just ban H20 while they're at it.

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    Comment by demonhaseo
    03:16 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm starting to smell the workings of an unfortunate WWIII with America and Japan being on the same side and attacking China

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    Comment by King Tiger
    09:23 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    war between the U.S. and China will never happen too much economics at stake this is also the same reason that there won't be a third world war and even if said conflict were to come about it'll probably be more akin to World War ONE! rather than the global sized conflict that was world war two because again economics at stake so each side would do their best to contain said conflict to a single area (at best)

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:56 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    sometimes i wonder if all these laws are even being practice or just for show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:37 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wth, Was about to write that when I saw this on the news o.o

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    Comment by King Tiger
    06:32 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    China feels butthurt ^_^

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    Comment by diskonline

    This is an old news already. It started over half year ago but nothing really changes actually. They just replace some English word abbreviations by their translations of full name, like replacing "NBA" by "美国职业篮球赛" (National Basketball Association), no big deal, is it?

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    Comment by Artefact

    Any abrogation of free speech is a big deal, although being Chinese I can appreciate how you might not appreciate this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:31 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Dude I'm Chinese and I personally hate the communist government of China.

    But Artefact your comment just now was quite offensive to me. Just because someone is chinese doesn't mean anything. It seems that you are highly biased against my kind.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:21 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Artefact, you are wrong. Most Chinese people, the educated ones at least, do see problems with the communist government. However, they also see it as a necessary evil. Take the one-child policy; largely looked upon as a violation of human rights here in the west, yet if it was never implemented then China would have only become increasingly impoverished over the decades.

    It's easy for people who don't live in the country to cry for change, especially when you don't have anything to lose. Freedom is nice, but obtaining a desired level of it is a lot more complicated than most people believe.

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    Comment by Nin
    04:24 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    @diskonline I don't get what you're saying. Does freedom of speech not apply to the media where you live?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:48 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Ah yes, the "necessary evil". A beloved cop out. Comes right after "i just did my job", "i didn't know about this" and "i had no choice".

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    Comment by Artefact
    06:02 22/12/2010 # ! Incandescent

    I am highly biased against communist tyranny and the people who support it. As most mainland Chinese clearly support their government's activities passively or actively, it seems only fair to make such generalisations. If Chinese really cared about freedom of speech their government would not be able to repress it so thoroughly.

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    Comment by diskonline
    04:45 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Now that you mention it. Media in China only publish what they're allowed to publish. This is a truth we have adopted, for we can't change it. So we don't believe the media now.

    However, more truth lies in the Internet. Though they could be censored anytime, more would come, we're not as stupid as you thought.

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    Comment by Michael Zindorf
    08:43 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Blame their lack of freedom to the Global Elite. They actually modeled that country for a police like state grid. The US and Europe will soon follow if we do not stand up to our government leaders to prevent stupid laws that would opress us.

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    Comment by starsplash
    14:27 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So basically you just called me stupid for voicing my opinion diskonline? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the Chinese media only broadcasts what the governement wants the people to hear and censors what shouldn't be heard. Its no surprise that China's web is heavily censored to. Thats also called censorship to.

    Ive been to China enough to say what I say and I stand by it. If you dont like it.... I dont care. I dont mind argueing with you if you put up some kind of an argument, but just calling me stupid isn't "showing off you're intelligence" either. Whether or not you lived there or me visiting China about 20 times a year for a decent amount of time doesn't mean that neither of us have a reduced experience in what China life is about. ITs the perception of it. And different people have difference perceptions of it. This is mine.

    Plz try again.

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    Comment by starsplash
    14:37 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    dammit... pushed the delete button by accident. Reposting this. Sorry if this ends up being a double post.

    So basically you just called me stupid for voicing my opinion diskonline? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the Chinese media only broadcasts what the governement wants the people to hear and censors what shouldn't be heard. Its no surprise that China's web is heavily censored to. Thats also called censorship to.

    Ive been to China enough to say what I say and I stand by it. If you dont like it.... I dont care. I dont mind argueing with you if you put up some kind of an argument, but just calling me stupid isn't "showing off you're intelligence" either. Whether or not you lived there or me visiting China about 20 times a year (I go for work and visiting family reletives there in An Hui) for a decent amount of time doesn't mean that neither of us have a reduced experience in what China life is about. ITs the perception of it. And different people have difference perceptions of it. This is mine.

    Plz try again.

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    Comment by diskonline
    22:21 23/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whether you're stupid can only be determined by yourself, not me. If you think so then this's it, I don't care. Personally I don't think you're stupid, but the thing is you're not living here; when you see the dark side of mainland you say "Well, that's terrible, but so what, I have my home sweet home at Taiwan, I don't care why it's terrible here and how to make it better really, it's just terrible and that's it, I don't want to have anything to do with that."

    No one wants to go deep inside the darkness unless being forced/pushed, that's the human nature can't be denied.

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    Comment by diskonline
    15:04 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Give it 30 years and I believe it will change, a bit, maybe.

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    Comment by starsplash
    15:30 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yo anon.... Im Taiwanese in Taiwan and I see some truth in what he says. I guess I may be the only one that can argue with you on this point.

    Most Chinese in China are not that intelligent. PLz dont be so foolish in thinking so. Ive been to China plenty of times and studied there for 2 months one summer for collage. The communist government brainwashes everyone, showing what it wants the people to know and see and refusing anyone in seeing another picture. On the other side, people there are just trying to make a living and dont care what is happening outside or what their governement is doing as long as it does not affect them.

    its very easy to generalize since if people did know what the government had been doing to their people, they would rise up and they would win. But aggressive reppression has thwarted that, and that people just dont care.

    Plus, there is just so much news evidence that proves China is in the wrong here that as a Chinese mixed, you just have to give up Chinese people in China.

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    Comment by diskonline
    21:29 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You've just proved that 2 months one summer for an outsider (of mainland) is not enough to understand the environment here.

    Showing off your intelligence is another kind of stupid, that's why they don't tell you the truth they know, especially when you're not so familiar with each other.
    Usually we just pretend to be brain washed, we all do. But life here is full of tips saying "they're washing your brain!", it takes time to realise that, but it's only a matter of time.

    I'm working on my doctor project at the very South of mainland. Sometimes I get Taiwanness classmates, one of them has been here for over 5 years. She can understand what life we're living, hope you can understand it later.

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    Comment by diskonline
    04:19 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Well, you think you know everything? This order/law has nothing to do with normal audience, it towards only media workers, like CCTV employers, presenters, news reporters themself.

    Seriously, what's the big deal. They can still say what they want to say, can't they. Being unable to use English doesn't mean they can't say anything about English, what's more, they're only news reporters.

    Yeah, it's not necessary, it looks stupid, but what is this with free speech.

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    Comment by Miroku74

    Chinese culture (and women) has/have been the cum dumpsters of foreign barbarian 'invaders' for millenia. Either by actual invasion, or by assimilation of the foreigners who immigrate by the Chinese.

    So in other words...

    Yeah. More Epic Chinese FAIL.


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    Comment by Guangyu Zhao

    Actually it bans the mixed Chinese-English expression. Not the entire language. Fails again? Don't know where fails

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    Comment by Megidola
    01:47 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    No, it bans any foreign words from media. This is a fail for obvious reasons.

    Ideas of language purity are essentially nationalistic myths. For example, the English language is a mix of Latin and Germanic elements, with many loanwords from Commonwealth nations.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:13 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    it is idiotic as well, isolating from the world doesn't improve the country. it makes it only worse -.-

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:47 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    "cafe" is French, "schadenfreude" is a word derived from German that means to find pleasure in others misfortune. Our ENTIRE numerical system was "borrowed" from Arabics, as is the word "assassin." We here at good old Sankaku use the word Otaku regularly. This is a borrowed word. Oh, as well as the word "saute."

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:21 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    *goes to Sankaku*

    *Stares at article*


    Comment by Anonymous
    02:57 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    don't forget the infamous deja vu

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:28 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    "Pronto" isn't an original english word.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:44 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    "Tsunami" is a pretty recent one since scientists don't like "tidal wave".

    If English doesn't absorb as many foreign words as other languages today, it's because the new terms people want to use tend to be English to begin with, like "email" and "internet".

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:19 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Its just to keep their people in check, Their goverment is quete represive. There is many "dangerous" Ideas out there that can put the one on top at risk.

    Like the "Unaproved" Nobel Guy recently, it put their national security at risk, if many of that kind of guy apear.
    and the Source of Influence is Foreign, and mainly they came in English

    If the people cant read those, The somewhat "Dangerous" Thinking threat can be minimum
    and all Happy leader on top Can reign for many more years.

    as long their People is dumb

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:40 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.5)

    oh, i understand their worries
    imagine the possibly most idiotic written language in existence today, having an alphabet of 10 000 to 40 000 symbols, 50 000 to 100 000 words
    now take the english language with 26 symbols and 500 000 to 1 000 000 words
    that must be embarrassing
    yea, they should stick to their bronze age language and not let anyting touch it

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:31 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Here is a wonderful list of all the borrowed Japanese words that are in common English use (listed in English dictionaries etc.) The expressions "Head honcho" & "Just a skosh" were originated from Japanese words.

    The English language even has borrowed words from China (list below) so to say that English has not adopted foreign words in the last few centuries is definitely off. Also, China should realize this and appreciate it. If English can adopt Chinese, then Chinese can adopt English. (Troublesome beings.)

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    Comment by Artefact

    English has mugged entire languages for their vocabularies and continues to do so.

    The notion that it is not still assimilating other languages could hardly be further from the truth - if anything the pace has quickened with the advent of a global "lingua anglica."

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    Comment by yaku
    08:59 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    China fails to understand that languages are not impervious to time and evolution. Any language differs from itself depending on the times. For example English from 200 years ago is not the same as English as we currently know it; and I doubt Chinese is an exception (in fact look at how many dialects they have; if you were to put two Chinese people from completely different dialects in the same room they wouldn't understand each other at all).

    To believe that a language is not affected by time, people and culture in general in any way is stupid at least.

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    Comment by Yanderer
    03:55 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Sorry to break it for you but pan has a Portuguese origin, not French,

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    Comment by Y0k41
    03:21 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh and somewhat related but the japanese word pan(bread) was also taken from the French..

    And I'm getting the impression that names of foods in English tend to retain their foreign names....mmm like creme brulee or crepes or Enchilada...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:43 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of all the things to copy why did they have to copy the académie française... T.T

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    Comment by ItsDemo
    04:20 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    02:47 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, China can and wants to prove it to the world.

    Though I agree with you Anon 2:1322/12/2010. Once they start going against Higher Authority they'd end up ruining themselves.

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    Comment by Artefact

    That rather supposes that English was ever anything but a mongrel tongue. The only language remotely resembling modern English was already a mixture of French, German, Norse, Latin, Greek and various indigenous languages...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:51 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    To quote James D. Nicoll:
    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don?t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

    Current estimates are that more than two-thirds of English vocabulary can be traced back to foreign loanwords.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Oh Artefact I love how you use the sources and how noone even reads them :D

    Arbitrary use of English words and acronyms is now prohibited and coined terms that are not intelligible to everyone are not allowed to be used, according to a notice released by the General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) recently.

    I don't think the source is saying anything of a ban of all English words in media but hey, maybe MY reading comprehension fails

    Comment by Rashid Hasbun

    but you are talking about old English language... what about today? which foreign words are been added to English aside "burrito" and "Taco"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:06 22/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    And don't forget alot of english words are borrowed by the chinese language because they don't have their own word for it. Now what are they gonna say/do? Yes I speak 3 different chinese so I know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:11 22/12/2010 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    What's so fail about that? The French and the Icelanders have been doing this for decades, both have very few to almost no English-derived words.

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    Comment by shinryou
    02:29 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The French just change the writing of the word to a French style and use it as 'their own'... like turning CD-Rom into "cédérom"

    They do restrict the amount of English content in Radio and TV though. They may only play a certain amount of English language songs in a certain amount of time. That's also why they give birth to a load of songs with the tune of an originally English language song with French lyrics.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:09 22/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    In French class I learned "le weekend" and "le blue jean".

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:56 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes yes, Duchy of Normandy, William the Conqueror, 1066 and all that. Actually most of modern English vocabulary is derived from French rather than Anglo-Saxon languages.

    I would like to correct my previous statement; the French Académie frowns deeply every time a loan-word is taken from an another language, which really amounts to a non-enforced, inefficent ban.

    But in Icelandic there really are very, very few loan-words.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:08 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    All those are of norse origins. French may have the numbers, but not the most frequent usage.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    06:24 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Possibly because, once upon a time, france invaded england. There are also lots of french words in the english language because of this..

    au pair, avant-garde, chauffeur, concierge, voilà, sans, mousse etc. etc. etc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:56 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no english derived words ? in MY french ?

    yet again an exemple of how people knows nothing about france but keeps saying shit about it

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:41 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As far as I know, Le is for male and la is for female. In French they separate things to gender.

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    04:06 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    erm...say some examples then

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:56 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...Hamburger is actually Mongolian, lol.

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    05:07 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    le means "the",am I right to guess that?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:49 22/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    English influence on French has been pretty recent

    Le garage --> garage
    L'autostop --> hitchhiking
    Le toast --> toast
    Le week-end --> weekend
    Le shampooing --> shampoo
    Le look --> style
    Les peoples --> celebrities
    L'hamburger --> hamburger
    Le chat/ Le e-mail --> internet chat
    Le e-mail --> E-mail

    And then of course theres the older words like
    football, jet (as in jet set), bowling, pride, gay, club, rugby, happening (as in an event), market, and skate board.

    France is very picky about allowing loan words, but that doesn't mean they completely refrain from the practice.

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