Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law is expected to be signed into law on the 15th after an additional vote and then come into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
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I've dated various high-end sex-industry workers in Azabu/Roppongi and they all told me that Ishihara, despite his public ranting about "family values", gays, prostitution and the yakuza; is a frequent customer of sex clubs and a friend of organized criminals. Exactly as you would expect. It's like Ted Haggard or extreme anti-gay politicans in the USA: guaranteed to be secretly doing what they publicly claim to hate the most. So I fully expect that one day Ishihara will be found to have raped an underage girl.
Honestly, I am not surprised by Ishihara's blatant hypocrisy. If only we could get this information to the Japanese public.
Ask any drug dealer whether they want drugs to be legal.
I've been in a 2ch thread about this for the last few hours.
The people that are actually FOR this thing are mindbogglingly retarded.
It's basically nothing but ad hominem consisting of "Otaku are so disgusting, I'm glad"
or stupid parents that abandoned parenting and want the law to do it for them.
As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
...Nice use of an SMAC quote. The Planetary Datalinks, I believe...
Ha, Alpha Centauri quote.
After reading this I'm feeling a little sick right now.
A lot sick.
I hope for the actions of sympathetic "law twisters" to go after the absurdities of the ban to get it overturned.
This Ishihara guy is like the new scrooge to me....
No no no no no. He's worse than scrooge, he's the next Hitler bound to destroy the otaku.
Why is this Hitlers fault? All Hitler tried to do is to free Germany from the surpression of the western Forces that schemed against the surpremity of Germany in Europe before the 1st WW and to destroy the conglomerats of the Jews that built up in the western and eastern hemisphere during the late 19th and early 20th century.
Hitler would've never tried to destroy culture(the American president tried after WW II though, but what he accomplished with his conspiracies in Germany never happened in Japan). I mean they even set up a fictional TV-series called Holocaust in the 70s (1979) that made people believe what they saw on TV really happened back then ( that's like if you start to believe in The Matrix or Time Machine after you've seen those movies).
And it's exactly the same kind of people that try to bring down the anime industries now making it seem that rape/sexuality happening in manga/anime is as real as those crimes out there (and really happens, even if it's just inside your head) and must be punished/banned.
If your imagination is too good from reading books(that are far worse because they describe what happens in every minor detail, making you feel like you do it instead of watching another one doing it= training you to imagine the worst things + there's no age restriction on books because there aren't any graphics in it, so children have free access to the worst kind of things before they've even seen their first Hentai and get mentally ill from it).
I bet the reason why I watch Hentai is because during school time I was forced to read those classical "masterpieces of literature" where there are only illicit relationships (father+daughter/ school boy + 40-year old lady/old guy that got a girl pregnant and then drove her into suicide/prince that rapes a poor girl (and that in 2 different books)),it must've been around that time that I first watched porn/hentai, I was never corious before, so I feel like these shitty books brainwashed me into the person I am now...
worst thing is, though, that you start in school with childrens books and after that you directly get to these extremely perverted nasty shit, I really dunno why we haven't more psychopaths running around !
This is why we can't have nice things.
Chill peeps.
im sure some country will absorb the entire anime industry...
i hope... pray that some great leader is on the way. now its pretty much up to 2ch and 4chan.
zeros to heroes.
When have any of them done ever anything useful? You don't engineer political change by DoSing a website or milling around in masks, and 2ch have never done anything at all.
They help Densha Otoko and Hermes-chan...
As if the government really cares. All nippon has been doing so far is face-saving itself.
I'm telling you, western idiocy and retardation will kill this world, one way or another.
Fuck globalization and feminism. Fuck religion and morals. All of that is oldie shit. Nothing is eternally efficient. Come up with something new and stop copying. Even if you'll have to blow half of the globe to bits. Just don't succumb to supporting the degradation of the human kind.
@美しい音:
You're not really helping this case with that arguement, especially that part about globalization, feminism and morals.
well, it's nice to know globalization, feminism and morals are now "oldie shit". Aren't you a smart one.
I didn't actually expect this to pass.... its really over. Anime and manga is dead as we know it. It will be interesting to see how the repercussions are felt world wide as no anime or manga means many English company's will collapse with no new series to sell.
Hope it will not bring more doom...
Calm down everyone, it has only passed the committee, a full vote on it will be Wednesday. If it's not shot down then, that's when you can all cry and demand the publishers get their shit together and possible have someone overthrow the city government.
I don't see how this isn't going to pass the full vote, seeing as both the DPJ and the LDP are in on it...
There could possibly be several politically charged reasons to let it get through committee then killing it with a full on vote, some of which would hurt the governor more than the bill dieing at committe (one of those being it getting even more press and the voting populace seeing just how close they were to losing something).
That said, all we can do is hope that those idiotic politicians don't push through something such as this, which will run their economy down even more, as I'm pretty sure that otaku that sliced at quite a few people won't end up being the only one, especially if it passes.
And that day, freedom of expression went 60 years backwards.
It's the end of the world as we know it
and I DON'T feel fine
Holy Fuck. The Mayans got the date a little too late...
DOUCHE BAGGERY. Where the Hell do they get off doing this kinda thing!
Methinks they'll have more than just protesting/rioting over those islands now.
In the words of Cpt. Yamamoto: "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant."
inb4 THE GREAT ANIME REVOLT
too late! here it comes
"I fear we have awakened a group of sleeping beasts."
Or we tell stories to our grandchildren:
"You see kid, I lived through the final days of good old Japanese animation...
Sora no Otoshimono. It had ANGELS with GIANT BOOBS! Can you even imagine that?
Or what about Shiki? Vivisection on TV!
Ore no Imouto was the last recorded show on TV portraying schoolgirl younger sister fetish. Ever.
And Panty and Stocking was the final, brave stand..."
@Shippoyasha
I can imagine Tomoki's grandpa saying that...
"Tomo-boy, in my day we could see uncensored nipples and pantsu in anime..."
If only he was the governor instead of Ishihara...
In the future Panty and Stocking, in it's air time corresponding to the ban, is going to look like 1 last big "Fuck You" to the government.
Difference being that the US has a fairly robust free speech section written into their Constitution, so all you need is a sympathetic judge.
Not the case for Japan.
The way i see this bans reason is that of restricted thinking of new ideas for anime which would result in the evntual collapse of the anime industry leaving otakus to bend to the will of norm life that many claim to live by.
This is pure free will bending at its finest and that in turn disgusts me greatly to see an old pathetic man who doesn't have a clue on anime and therfore decides to ban what he does not know while also trying to force people who watch their anime and H to give up and return to these "self proclaimed normal people".
@Shippoyasha,that comment is awesome!
but not good enough to mend our sorrow from this news
stop being punes! congress tried to do the same thing to rap/rock in the late 80's,and it made it stronger.
And where exactly do you have proof of that beyond shit you hear on the internet? It's a goddamn restricted section stop flipping your shit, you can't pick up porn in the average store either but porn is still a thriving industry.
Yamamoto was an admiral, dawg :\
Well, the Greatest Generation was correct all along. From the brainwashed Tea Party numbskulls in the U.S. to the comic-censoring DPJ in Japan, from the mullahs of Afghanistan to the oligarchs of Russia, the Baby Boomers truly have wrecked the world.
But it's not the end for Japan, because their economy is so strong right now it can definitely handle a big hit like this. Oh wait...
no, but the begining of the end of anime/manga. earlier they complained that it was hard to find out new stories.... now it'll be even harder.
well, at least otaku get one last blessed
christmas
publishers will be emptying stock faster than a milkshake does lactose intolerant bowels
the pornographic manga, and the nonporn that has homosexual themes. Two girls in love that do no more than hugging should be banned, after all.
Guys give it to the end of the summer... I have a feeling they'll realize "Holy shit, we're losing money... I wonder why" and by 2012 they'll overturn this ban as they realize that the Anime, Manga, and Video Game industry is what was saving them all this time.
no it affects it so much that all the currently companies will only make family friendly shit to make profit
this has to be the worst series of sober judgement failure since the 1930s
they didnt even ban the horrible horrible porn they hate so much, but sent it to the "adult corner"?
they have neither brains nor backbone
so the only thing left is to hope some publishers will not bend over backwards and have the sense of self preservation to make this transformation possible and that adult corners will swell by 5000% in the following year until the rest wakes up and does something
on a sidenote: dont publishers and otaku vote at all?! how can those cretin politicians feel so secure?
oh well... goodbye anime; manga, hold on!
Lamberto, lets just hope youre right
the way i see it, the whole industry has been sent to bureaucrat hell
they will either make slews of sunshine and butterfies, or worry what the officials say and adjust marketing afterwards
either way, everything will have to pass the new quality check and take much longer to come out
time is money
lamberretardo stfu.
how was that country embarrassing? of course Its going too cripple the anime industry look whats happening too manga publishers atm... any form of censorship is bad it cripples works of art and freedom of expression. it's a different culture not brainwashed like U.S.
and sex sells.
What are you stupid you know people have different opinions right? Some complain that their to much sex in Anime, some like fan service anime. Some like both and I bet a lot of people like a bit of fanservice in Anime. Some people who complain about sex in Anime probably don't like anime anymore or only like it for the nostalgic factor. I think most people who complain about sex in anime at least on this site just think their is to much out their or to much fanservice in a show.
I mean we won't have animes like k-on\kei on either, because they have school girl uniforms.
Well isn't this just the hypocritical cake, half of those problems listed way up are exaggerations or not problems at all, you pull a list of the exact same size or bigger about the US that is equally bullshit, this is so hypocritical, Japan is no worse then the US when is comes to problems, the problems are different but no place is shittier to live in. Plus go look back on those articles about how "All anime is sex".
"WAAAAH, all anime sucks now because it's all sex and fanservice!"
Then this comes.
"WAAAH, they're taking away the sex! Japan sucks!"
They probably don't like foreigners because of shit like this, there's no pleasing you, if they do one thing it's perverted and gross, they do another and it's prudent and censorship, the only thing that would make you happy is if it came from a western company, one minute you're all laughing at Japanese tastes and calling them sexist and in general mocking the whole of the culture and the next minute you're defending their rights? Bullshit, you're looking for ways to make yourself feel better, "Anti-Otaku" yeah right, when was the last time you people cared about Otaku?
Any article that features an Otaku will be filled with mocking and steaming hatred at how pathetic they are, you people are always mocking how the live and their behavior so why the fuck do you care now? You don't. It's a vehicle for Japan bashing, hell they're not even banning shit, they're moving it to a restricted section BECAUSE THAT TOTALLY EVER STOPPED ANYONE, this won't cripple shit.
Learn to write Englsih. Then comment. It is a pain to read.
I don't know how you idiots think this spells the end of anime and manga as an industry, they're just moving the pornographic manga that parades itself round like it isn't to where they really belong, they will still be unavailable. As for adult anime being removed, good, they could do with less of the stuff, because none of it sells abroad.
Put it like this, they're making the country less embarrassing.
Ok, time to enlist in Ika Musume's army and take over Tokyo
Krauser shall raep the New Japan. And the New Japan will like it :D
I got wet when I read that comment. Fuck yea. DMC FTW.
I srsly hope that's irony you're using there
That anime has a scene containing girls in school uniforms. It shall soon be dealt with in New Japan.
Population declining,
Nobody spending,
Politicians lying and constantly in league with the Yakuza,
Movie industry basically dead in the water,
Anime industry shrinking,
Manga industry shrinking,
Videogames criticized as too old fashioned,
Society still not coming to grips with dealing with foreigners, no less a proper civil rights movement for foreigners,
Less economic relevance in the world.
Oh BOY is it an exciting time for Japan! I kinda wish the nation could rewind its clock 50 years ago when it was pure unbridled optimism...
At least with Hollywood/American Indie movie scene, it's still fairly vibrant.
Japanese anime/manga is still the tops in the world, but I wonder if this ban may put an end to that. Extremely sad situation.
And they really know how to deal with this, banning a stable source of income.
I feel so sorry for Japan for electing such disgraceful politicians.
It's the same as most countries, old people have a disproportionate influence on voting.
Then it ends up like this, with old people banning something new that they don't understand.
They digging teir own grave.
@ Anon 2:54
Have you ever read Lolita? That has several scenes of rape in it, with a minor, and it is proudly placed in many a good book shop. Would you like that moved to adult shops too? Or is it just that we're otaku, and if you had to say that against Literature grads you'd have rather less to say about it?
FOR ALL THOSE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING A PETITION: dont be stupid
you want to stop this? protest. fill the damn streets.
don't type a letter or sign your name and think "yeah, i did my part! Now they can't ignore us!!" =_=
petitions dont work. they never work. period
Well, they DID put them there , so now they're getting raped by the shitheads in the office which they elected in the first place.
Japan, are you M by chance?
Cuz now's not the time to be strapped up and let them shit all over you....
the thing that pisses me off the most about this is that they did this to impress western countries. After stuff like RapeLay hit western countries, all fingers were pointed at Japan and it's low morals. Seems to me that theyre just trying to eliminate otakus, and make themselves look better to the rest of the world.... sigh, at least thats my take on this...
This will in fact result in much less creativity.
Anything these hypocrites don't approve of can be sent to the "adult section", which would be commercially a death sentence in most cases.
At the same time, creators will avoid mature themes, and the mainstream will be filled with bland "family-friendly" crap.
Might be one positive effect from this: More people from the younger generations might get involved in the next election. That in combination with all those old people proving to be actually dead (not that I know if their votes were used, admit it is a fun conspiracy theory ;), we might see some change.
Wow, you just described much of the developed world...
The irony is that they'll probably be praised by the international community for 'changing their ways' and 'protecting their children'.
Soooooo, perhaps the industry will move to the internet? Certainly would be a good place to go. Would mean we could have more manga too, since it'd be possible to have more being written if there isn't a limit to the size of the magazines, since online is all happy and paper free.
BUT I NEED MY TWO D GIRL ON GIRL PORN TO LIVEEEE!!!!!! I mean, no other country has so much to offer lesbians in the way of entertainment.
your all reacting too much, this is just "tokyo" not the whole of japan. there would be a chance that manga will be published in the provinces more, and thus make the provinces more populated.
hell the capital might even be moved to kyoto again if protests go through
@lamberto
do tell me how ore no imouto is '2d porn'
it's not the ban that i dont like, but it's the justification of it
why arent general erotica literature banned?
why arent most adult films banned?
it's not the huge scope of this that's unfair, it's the sheer fact that it's so narrowly scoped that's the most unreasonable and retarded part of this facade
@ anon 02:54-
you REALLY have not been following this story, have you? -_-
anime in general will have to be all completely censored in order to actually make ANY money off it at all. anime companies will most likely comply and heavily edit and alter all anime. the anime business is going to start loosing money, quick. alot of anime will probably be canceled even if edited, due to the heavy loss of income and support. this is not about H or porn, you fool
the answer is simple: remove voting power for anyone older then 60 (in all countries).
>Comment by Megidola
>22:33 13/12/2010
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>It's the same as most countries, old people >have a disproportionate influence on voting.
>
>Then it ends up like this, with old people >banning something new that they don't >understand.
fear not, for there always will be the manga bible
wait, children get slaughtered in the bible now that i think about it...
such a shame
wow, so many white knights showing their morals
*sigh* moralists...
@ToyNN you do realize the main problem with the law is the fact its so vague right? it makes sense if they throw out a law that specifically targets certain things like "fictional rape" which is a stupid thing to ban in the first place... but they have a bunch of open ends apparently, where they can basically use that law to ban whatever they please. if that kind of lawmaking doesnt scare you, then you need to re-evaluate yourself.
basically any fictional depiction of "non-societaly approved actions" can be taken under this law and banned. they are turning into a thought police...
somebody kill me...
the whole world is going mad....
One this information is incorrect, a vote won't be taken for the law to pass until the 15th.
Two, no one should be surprised. Every "free democratic country" is moving to towards the same tyranny. In america, look at Coica (basically gives the government the right to ignore the first and fourth amendments when it comes to the internet) and the new food regulations act (which makes growing food in your backyard and garage sales "smuggling") The only proper response to overwhelming tyranny, which is what this will boil down to, is anarchy. If Coica ever passes the government here in america will be left in awe of what happens to their computing infrastructure at the hands of me and several silent, yet talented hackers. Mastercard and visa going down? That's just little kids playing with LOIC. Governments should be afraid of their people, because, when united, we are a terrifying prospect too any who seek to control and command others.
@Lamberto
But it's not only porn that's being 'downsized', it is because Naruto, D.Gray-man, X, even Kuroshitsuji is in danger because of 'violent action'.
Give me a few names of people who's dancing in victory for this shit.
It's the End Of The (Anime) World As We Know It @_@
yay for family friendly porn =.=
I wonder why they attack our Yaoi
Anon has the same feeling I do. I have to believe they want to regulate the very explicit games/managa - the anime mentioned at the end of the article in no way should fall under this new law.
At first the publishers will halt everything as it will take some time for everyone to figure out what's ok and what will be prosecuted.
TenguSan - I hope you are wrong...but we'll see. I think the main goal is to regulate explicit games/manga not something like Oreimo or Milky Holmes as noted in the article.
At first the publishers will halt a lot of titles but some won't and then we'll see who gets prosecuted.
Hopefully when the LDP inevitably come back to power in the next elections they will reserve this law.
TenguSan's right. Screw peaceful solutions, just kill them all.
Meanwhile, back in reality...
@TNinja: "Give me a few names of people who's dancing in victory for this shit."
List : Ishihara, Ishihara, Ishihara...
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@Shippoyasha you left out the part about 'claiming' ownership of islands form foreign nations once a wealth of oil is found below the surface.
And treating blacks as if everyone of of them was a spear chucking, big nosed , big lipped monkey.
And that's not even counting how tallentless their actors and directors are. Not to mention how generic their stories & characters are too.
I tell ya what.
JEWS DID THIS LAW!
Who cares if your 2D porn is in an adult store. what the hell does it matter? at least you can still buy the crap. stop complaining and be glad that they don't band it period. not to mention this is just in tokyo. rape and porn in general shouldn't be sold in normal stores anyways, and if you like watching rape you obviously have a sick mind or some sort of mental problem, that is just gross.
anyways, you guys are making it a bigger deal then it really is. If you are saying it's the end of the work or you are going to die because of this then that is just SAD.
Don't cry just because your 2D porn is being downsized, it's pathetic that you people really think this stuff is the creative core of an industry. Sadly, it's somewhat true, real creativity should dominate, not this crap.
the answer is simple gentlemen!
to bring back the glory of 50 years ago we must bomb them again!
I-I can't take anymore of this BS....I just can't....
Ima go jump off bridge now (July 2011), sry mom.
I'll say this just once:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
DPJ, you idiots!
Otaku everywhere have now become rageguy.jpg
^ -CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
i'll finish that off for ya.
without doubt the worst rage ive ever felt
cockslapped by someone not even on the same hemisphere as me and absolutely nothing i can do about it
words fail me
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Megidola, I truly wish I could do more for that comment than voting it up.
this day will live in infamy forever.
DAMN IT!!!
Words cannot express...This hatred and rage!
@Megidola
There has never been a more appropriate time for that very Star Wars reference.
If Naruto and Bleach were going to get any more interesting than this, plans got ruined. And I now fear One Piece and Mahour Sensei Negima might have just become "porn".
No seriously, when are the elections so that I may proudly defect to Japan and vote these DPJ fuckers of the face of Japan's political world.
FOR THE ALMIGHTY GOD EMPEROR OF JAPAN!!! BANZAI!!! *goes to pretend killing some DPJ goverment officials*
Doubtful, considering that they were the ones to introduce the bill in the first place. And Ishihara being a former prominent member of theirs to boot.
Plus, they're rather enamored with Agnes as well.
If you're hoping for salvation from them, then you're in for a long and bitter wait.
@The Kiss
believe my word. DPJ reign is short. and when the parliament change of course the new regime will seek change. and pray that this law is one of the change by new regime(because it gives money).
So they are just gonna put +18 on manga and anime, so what? Well okay they will lost money gained from minors, but kids play and watch +18 movies all the time too.
FUCKIN RAGE!!! dragonball styles.
Ban Anime/Manga my ass! It's already too late to ban anything, this is completely BS.
For the sake of financials, I really thought they'd think twice about this, but then with the publishers sitting quiet about this, I guess no one cares, or even looks at the possible economic failure at hand (nor the slippery free speech slope they've created).
It doesn't matter WHAT the subject matter is, this is a SLAP IN THE FACE to free speech. I'm appalled that the international community has nothing to say about a supposedly modern democracy taking a massive shit on free speech. Maybe they will in the coming days...but probably not. It's not about the 2D porn, this is about a government going way to fucking far. Democracy my ass.
Because the ‘international community’, i.e. just a bunch of countries, can't very well give Japan a rap on the knuckles without attracting scrutiny themselves. And then you'll discover that a lot of western countries are even more uptight than Japan. Or have an Official Secrets Act. Or anti-blasphemy laws. Or a list of banned books.
Furthermore, generally speaking western culture favours protecting fictional kids over free speech in the first place. It doesn't matter if a politician stands up against this ban because he knows that the ban could be used to stifle free speech and/or prohibit works that aren't even pornographic by any sane standard, in the evening news there will be his face next to some loli guro. End of career.
@8:42
This is a ban intended to damage the mainstream ecchi anime. The H industry isn't covered at all.
Aren't covered until the prosecutors use this EXTREME VAGUE LAW to stretch thing and cover them!
That is the reason why vague laws should not be passed, nor 'to protect the minors' laws.
Yeah because putting an adults only section up or an adult rating ever does anything right? PEOPLE GET WILL IT REGARDLESS, even in America porn is still a huge industry and M games still sell, a restricted section won't do shit.
The Ban won't change promiscuity rates in teenagers whatsoever. If anything, they might go up!
Dear Santa,
I've been really good this year so I want one of two very important things: Either Japan WAKES THE FUCK UP AND UNBANS MANGA AND ANIME or plane tickets to Japan for me and millions of other anime and manga fan friends SO WE CAN KILL THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT. Thank you.
Sincerely, your friend
Amen, by the way, if the ban does happen. we should start a brotherhood of assassins and go after the people who even thought of this.
You definitely got "the Japanese economy is strong" part wrong. Maybe not as bad as Europe or the USA at the moment, but not strong and still trying to recover from the bust in the 90s. This will have a devastating effect on publishing, film industry, game industry, shopowners (especially in Akiba), distributors, tourism and the convention industry. Ishihara is full of rocks to put this law into effect when the economy is already suffering because it affects a huge amount of the population. Plus who exactly is it that is going to buy the lame stuff it will be replaced with.
You do realize that this would be the equivalent of not M rated games but AO, right? There's a reason why the game industry is fighting so hard against video game bills here. When the government starts getting into policing morality, creativity suffers.
So fucking sensationalist. THE BILL HASN'T PASSED. It's just been 'passed' (approved) by committee TO GO INTO VOTE ON WEDNESDAY.
There is still hope yet, though slim.
BECAUSE M RATING TOTALLY STOPS SALES! A fucking restricted section, you know what they're actually doing, won't do shit.
THIS IS FUCKEN MADNESS!!!
Since when did the Japanese become southern baptists?
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I feel sick =_=
OMFGFGFGGF! This could make manga anime and eroge to an actual underground activity! more than it is nowadays! only the most determined would be able to gaze upon yet alone touch the treasure of the Gods that is manga and anime!
This like totally breaks my day!
If this does get implemented then I'm glad I saw anime and manga at its most shining brilliance however perverted the light was
Satou was right. Everything is a Conspiracy! Created by the NHK!!! Damn them!
Oh God NO! This can't be happening!
Like I said before, Japan's government is full of frauds and hypocrites. I smell something fishy going on in Japan and I doubt the ban was passed without conspiracy.
Man, in times like these, we need real heroes. I'm sure a certain Asagi-chan would be honored to kick that old man's ass - for justice, Black Lilith and all her fans who are delighted to see her indulge in unearthly pleasures over and over again.
WTF i come home from shitty work only to hear this, FUCK this is BULLSHIT it just made my day even more shitty.
WWIII to be started by Otaku..
DPJ, get ready; because there will definetely be a HELL TO PAY for your self-righteous troubles!
I'll admit, I never thought it would even remotely get this far. How dumb and worthless do the people running the publishing companies have to be to let it happen?
I think...I think I just felt my heart break...
I really never though a few months ago that something like this would pass. I feel like my favorite hobby has been made into something to be ashamed of.
If only adult can purchase..
Youth can ask adult to purchase for them while giving them addition $..
In the end they still get to read these..
This is also how underage kids get cigarette..
Why ban and indirect promote "black market"?
I wonder if there'll be a day when this fail shit actually gets overturned.
Oh, and I am not going to be surprised if there's really some crazed Otaku out there who's willing to sacrifice himself and kill Ishihara. It'll be best if he employ security guards and stuff, because things are not going to look good for him.
All in all, at the very least we are not going to see a total ban on this, but that effectively limits the anime industry to a whole new low.
On the other hand i believe there's some people out there who thinks that this will promote non-moeblob animes to finally shine after their decline.
I can't think of many anime that won't fall under this at some point.
QUICK my comrades Download as much as you can while the links are still WORKING! purge the internet of bandwidth and take what you can!
Its the end of days!
As if any Otaku in Tokyo would go out on the streets and rage lol.
They just stay at home, rage on internet sites and forums and cry themselves asleep..
At least the publisher are standing up to protect their money sources and the creativity
*screen writers throwing season 2 scripts out the window, knowing they'll never make it pass the new bill*
And months planning gone, just like that....
Can someone return the Death Note please?
I've got a date with the devil and I'm bringing as many fuckers down with me.
@DiamondDust
*keeps rolling and goes off the bridge in a "Leap of faith" style*
END OF THE WORLD..
I hope this dosnt affect anime to badly, i supose it depends on how heavy handed they want to be but there are alot of trash anime not realy worth watching atm and hopefuly this will force the industry into making more quality story based anime rather than the sell out moe/hentai crap thats floating about just now(though panty & stocking is prety good)
Mine's on fire, burning and hur-HNNNNNNNGGGGGGG
Japan's Governement/DPJ/or whatever you call them = the WORST government in the world. They can go STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!
this is the end of Japanese society, otakus does not have a way to "relieve" themselves and actually go on a rape spree... the Japanese Government will inevitably regret what they did and commit mass seppuku as an apology to the society (the last part was a mere exaggeration, but they will regret this)
action anime won't pass the filter cause of imaginary "murders", moeblobs/slice of life won't pass cause of "school uniforms"...
there's nothing left...
Everyone, grab your leeks!
The time for revolution has come!
Not just the end of the episode, it's the end of the whole series...
Is this the end of the obligatory beach/onsen episode?
It's because they're DUMBASSES
I hope this bill fails again if they bring it up for revisions and/or they realize they can't control it.
OR we see a massive unrest and upheaval from Anime/Manga people in a firm stand against this draconic law.
If manga/anime is neutered by it, this truly is a sad day. That means American cartoons with characters in school-clothing with rampant violence and extremely vague sexual innuendo would be more outrageous than new age anime. UGH>
We, the loyal anime and manga fans, along with the entire world and God himself, CONDEMN this heinous ban and the God-damned DPJ!
well i can as sure as the day to say goodbay to my hopes for more mahou shojou lyrical nanoha stories -.- damm and so close (whats a year or two) for the premiere of the second movie. God i will never see vivid or force animated the world has just lost its shine for me.
Goddamn you people like to hit the Panic button at every damn turn, it's not even being banned numbnuts it's being put in a restricted section, which does not do shit, it didn't do shit to porn and it's not going to do shit to perversion, hell Japan having the worst goverment? Yeah let's ignore all the shit going on in the Balkins and Africa, shows hoe much you guys know.
@08:48
Two simple facts.
1. Humans will invariably care more about things that directly affect themselves than about wars in some distant part of the world thanks to a little mental process known as "desensitization" (compare Vietnam War Pics/Movies/News Casts back in the 60s and 70s compare to the reaction to Afghanistan and Iraq today).
2. The real problem is, as said by others before me, the vague nature of the law. If this passes, it is not too far a stretch to imagine a law that "restricts" critique of society as it will be "outside of the social norm". Is that not a convenient law to have, if not every government's dream?
P.S.
I also blame the Ultra-Feminists, the Pseudo-Feminists (Matriarchal bitches they are), and Man-Haters in general for their rage about RapeLay leading to this. Inequality is always bad, sure, but don't go and make men slaves for how the society looks/looked.
I can't wait for the Otaku rebellion! Imagine if the population of Comiket revolted!
@Yoshii-kun Stop, Drop and Roll. :3
I never thought this BS would actually pass!
Onore!
Now, let's see if it was actually worth it.
I wonder what happen in 2ch right now.
lets all run in the streets with pornographic shirts saying fuck youuuuuuu to the assholes who did this and then grenade em after lol
so the way to get this law overturned is rape a bunch of lolis/schoolgirls and say the reason was sexual frustration because no loli/schoolgirl manga was available.
easily the most diabolical plan ever.
This is what happens when you let socialists into power.
Take this as a warning at home. Pinkos and Social Democrats are just Stalinists in disguise, tempting you.
Animation Corporation's Internal Memo;
"Pack your bags, guys. We're moving to another city where they WANT us."
Except many western countries have similar laws now...
Maybe it's time to start an Otaku colony in Antarctica?
You're screwed then. Tokyo is like Texas with regards to Schoolbooks. What they decide goes for such a big part of the country, that it's close to financial suicide to cater to that 10 to 20% that's left.
Add the costs of moving things etc etc.
For all intents and purposes this is a national ban. :(
.....Oh well, all the otaku would probably move on to Osaka or Kyoto or something. All they actually did was screw Tokyo's revenue stream and they'll be regretting their decision a few years down the road.-_->
Maybe this will revitalize japan. Imagine all the Neets and Otaku who will eventually be forced outside and into interaction with the non 2D. Japanese birthrates will sky rocket.
Or everyone will commit suicide, doesn't sound to bad at the moment.
Parts of antarctica are claimed by western countries.
Yes but their laws don't apply there. At least, pointless ones like these don't.
A mass exodus of Otaku and Anime personal to western countries.
Actually guys, I was thinking of somewhere nearer like Kyoto(KyoAni) or Tokushima(ufotable), since this ban only affects Tokyo
.......... unless the shitwagon's gonna spread to all corners of the country, then we're screwed.
or not check your facts
we will survive hold your heads high brothers this is our finest hour WEATHER THE STORM AS LONG AS EVIL MEN LIKE HIM DIE FREEDOM WILL LIVE ON! DEATH TO TYRANTS! RIIIIIISE UP! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE UP!!
IT'S A GODDAMN RESTRICTED SECTION, they're not even banning anything.
When a law is made this vague I don't even know if it can even survive as an underground medium.
Too bad it wasn't a child, but an old man.
A mere child could have written a better law that makes clear sense and has an objective and doesn't offend anyone.
It's not porn, it's ANYTHING they deem "harmful to youth/the social norm." They could say manga's featuring cats are harmful and *poof* no more cats in manga.
@anon 19:59 This is what happens when you let any extremist into power. At the end of the day, radicals on either side seek to control everything and impose tyranny. Why do you think it's so hard to elect independents in the US?
Because current government passes laws to make it difficult to do so.
@Megidola,and sadly,a senile one
Because a restricted section totally stopped porn in America? Porn is a multi-million dollar industry, this will not do shit.
truth is wouldn't be hard for me to salvage anything up i literally grab everything i can lol
underground my ass
Just wait. They'll amend the law saying that all internet traffic routed through Tokyo is subject to this law as well. Just so they can have the ability to go after the industry some more.
> This could make manga anime and eroge to an actual underground activity!
It would transform the anime/manga fandom into something similar to the furry fandom. Professional publishers and animation producers won't touch the material, therefore, they exist only off of material created within the fandom.
Cause that's what totally happened when this hit porn dumbass.
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same!
Lost for words!
FUCK!!!
Does that mean all Love+ character must graduate within a time limit otherwise the player will be jailed?
No, it means they'll have to add huge sections to the game where the character is studying for exams and telling you not to bother her. I mean if they don't put that in it'd be harmful to youth in my opinion.
18+ turning into material is bad, REALLY BAD.
you guys are so stupid this just means they will become 18+ material
@Anon21:10,omg!that means!CLANNAD,Air,Love Plus,and many games are gonna be banned too!
I would love to see a no-name party promise to remove this at the next election and win by a landslide victory.
Pirate Party FTW!
This is just going to create a black market for the "new" 18+ stuff in Tokyo.
It came earlier than it was thought to be...
there's go the second season Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
TT_____TT
*grabs @peacefan by the collar*
NO! I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT!
THERE MUST BE ANOTHER WAY!
T-there...just has to be....I-I just know it....*sniff*
Right?
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＿|￣|○? Ah oh wait i see it now, *put hand on Yoshii-kun shoulder* T_T
NOOO!!!!!!! FUCK NOOO!!!!!! I WILL FKING DIE!!!
wait, does that "virtual crimes" include killing people that turn into demons? this better not interfere with berserk!
No, i think they got it just about right. After the law goes into effect, it will be only a matter of time before the end of days comes....well that's a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the idea.
If it's any consolation China or Korea will probably destroy them sooner then the ban goes into place anyways..
The day this bill passes should be commemorated as annual grope a loli day by all otaku.
Just wait until 2ch get a load of this...
Shintarō Ishihara : "Tremble mortal .. for doom has come to this world"
Where is Akumetsu when he's needed? Where is the vendetta or the assassins? Do they only exist in the entertainment industry as a distant dream? We could be revolutionaries but we wont we are broken men in a broken country watching and complaining.
The Yazuka's will save the day! Say your Prayers DPJ
I doubt it. The yakuza run the 3D pig disgusting AV and prostitution industries,so a de facto ban on hentai will be a great boon to them.
Even if it doesn't help the AV industry, the yakuza could always do with hentai what the American mafia did with alcohol during prohibition. Either way, they can profit.
Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a part to play in getting it banned.
there is no hentai ban...YET..this law doesnt cover material already intended for 18+ it will however cripple the industry, a revolution is upon us men are too greedy for anime to go anywhere some otaku will probaly kill this man and his nazi party
The end?
My body is not ready yet.
I can already see the ragetrain coming :D
All aboard!
Is this some of high political scheme under the belt ?
The irony too is that erotic novel which that Ishihara "writes" goes unnoticed and just pass by the law...
And if the law states “interfere with the healthy development of youth,”
Then, you can say all kinds of live 'erotic' content should be banned altogether ...
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The future of Anime, Manga and Games looks grimmingfully bleak ;_+
I think it will be like Prohibition era in America :D
Yakuza will be selling anime, manga and eroge :D :D
Nah, this kind of thing will eventually fade, Japanese otaku are more than those politicians and more aggressive, and of course when they see less money in their pockets... they will reconsider their $/%&$#%&$/ law.
F***ing mayans, -__-
You know what.... I think this is a great opportunity to take anime to the US. Everything in the US are uncensored and the quality is so much better. I hope more anime goes to the US. Only the US takes Japanese anime and makes them uncensored.
If even mildly erotic anime gets any kind of mainstream expose in the US, the moralfags will absolutely destroy it. Do you think Ore no Imouto would survive in a country where 14-year-olds are arrested on CP charges for sending photos of their tits? It would be the worst thing to ever happen to the medium.
oohh kinda forgot about the "moralfags" shit
I love Oreimo. We got the Equality Now crap already destroying H-games. Guess the only way out is to start another country, or wait and see if this ban dies out T_T
Thats what I think to, because what makes anime anime? Is it the japanese culture or is it the animation style? If the U.S can adapt that style (I mean there is no copyright laws on the style anime is made, right?). Then, we wouldn't need Japan and there crappy laws.
Besides why do japanese draw anime as it is. It looks nothing like them. Compared to their splinter-eyes; anime eyes are pretty normal looking, has better skin, and imo, are way hotter. I guess it is what they wish they can be, and thats why they banned it, cuz they got no chance.
god i just had a chill when i hear anime in made in the US. raise a hand whoever thinks that all anime would become macho this macho that guns here guns there explosion here, the end. im the only one thinking that?
As long as it still the Japanese anime style and not become western cartoon.
As in such things like Fist of the North Star? Black Lagoon? Gunslinger Girls? If so..
Please move to the US, Japanese animators!
Dubs are the only thing, that would worry me. But aside from that I'm talking about having publishing companies in the US too, same style of manga too. A port company, which it anime would feel like it came from Japan, maybe have their own seiyuus, but free from any restrictions from Japan. At least here there is a higher chance of fighting these damn laws.
Why is animation supposed to depict the country it is made at ? Well, it's not. I like anime's style as it is, and if they started making anime in US it just wouldn't work out for several reasons : Plot, artwork ( never could be similar ) and most importantly, voicing. Even if they got the artwork right, it would be disgusting '' dubs '' ...