Japanese share the kind of antics they consider unacceptable from men on a “goukon” group date in the following ranking – not entirely surprisingly, men who less than generous with their hard-earned cash appear to be a lot less tolerated than women with the same affliction.
The ranking (with votes in brackets):
1. Being a bad drunk (5866)
2. Constantly checking his phone (4752)
3. Not paying (4382)
4. Being bossy (4337)
5. Being tight (2802)
6. Only talking about himself (2286)
7. Being pretentious (2108)
8. Not going along with the mood (2102)
9. Not talking (1959)
10. Dressing badly (680)









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Common sense. Also, when a guy gets drunk on a "date", it's obviously not a "date" for him, you stupid girl.
As if we need to worry about such things =3=
I think someone always gets Drunk on a Goukon, then again, I haven't been on 1 so what do I know...
when a guy directly says "we're just friends" and go out together, it's NOT a date. What makes a date official is a kiss on the lips.
maybe you should read some dating books..
I have to say that I'm rather glad about Japanese girls not focusing much on dress sense. I always thought they were obsessed with it (of course, this might simply indicate that the results of the survey are to be taken with a pinch of salt).
If a guy get's drunk on a date, the girl can be sure that she is either ugly or so boring that you have to make the day fun with alcohol.
Same with "constantly checking the phone". He plans to have a new date, reasons as above.
Women makes men DRINK beer. :V
beers makes women look attractive. >_<
Well, we are talking about a goukon here, so you kind of need to get drunk.
I would think that is bound to happen but not as drunk as is mention in (1.), your just wasted space then...
If I was a woman and a man constantly checked his phone I'd think he's gay and give up.
I see ice climbers.
Who would have guessed that '#3 Not paying' is that high in the list. Women are leeches on your wallet.
"Who would have guessed that '#3 Not paying' is that LOW in the list. " Fixed
Another 10 more reasons to avoid the opposite sex like the Ebola Virus.
Hunh, I actually do some of these sometimes, not #1 though.
Also, both men and women hate one another for being "tight"? WTH?!
I gotta say... I'm guilty of 7 and sometimes also 8...
If this list were true i'd have no problems with girls considering "Not talking" is ranked so low, my biggest weakness would be not keeping the conversation alive, you talk, i react and say clever/silly stuff, that's the way i want it. I'm a good listener.
Number 2 would be the worst in my opinion. It drives me insane when somebody is constantly checking their phone.
even checking the phone two times in a conversation is enough the piss them off, I had to experience
Is it bad if I don't even have a phone?
nope, I had a phone once and nobody really calls me unless their in deep shit, so no its not bad at all.
These two lists are basically saying it's fine to wear whatever you like, as long as you don't look at your phone.
...as long as you are paying...
*checks wallet* T_T
Liquor me up time.
...and that brings us full circle to #1
*puts hand on DiamondDust shoulder*
Just accept we're mobile ATMs till we go out of service
haiz....
@ Yoshii-kun
"Just accept we're mobile ATMs till we go out of service"
"... mobile ATMs..."
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You're brilliant, thanks.
dressing badly in my opinion should not be in the list. "badly dressed" can mean different things to some girls and it boils down to not liking the guy's style. Unless he looks like a hobo and smells like one, then yeah....
badly dressed mean you have no taste or aren't inclined to please or lack common sense.
Think again about possible definitions of "smart"...
and probably lack money to dress well or are penny pinchers
Hm... Where is that screencap from? Looks Lucky Star... I suspect it's a shop of Yui and Nanako.
More on topic, the list is surprisingly standard.
If I remember correctly, I think it's the Ice Climbers.
aah, it's from the "super smash bros." anime. how could I forget this
Yeah, it's a shop of the cover of the Yui X Nanako Character CD.
2. Constantly checking his phone
wtf since when do males check their phones constantly on a date... ?
I think the western version of this list would put "gets into fights then passes out in a pool of their own urine" somewhere near the top
Constantly checking his phone.
Oh he's just taking pictures of your partner while your drunk.
I'm amazed that money was number 3 instead of 1.
well, they'll discard number 1 & 2, if the guy has a lots of money with him
Why do you keep translating キザ as tight?
You've got a point.
きざ 《気障》 (adj-na,n) (uk) (abbr) (See 気障り) affected; smug; pompous; conceited; snobby; pretentious
Unless I'm missing some definition of "tight" it doesn't have anything to do with the word "kiza".
one thing I learned while studying japanese is,that one word has multiple different meanings.
from a japanese dictionary:
キザとは、服装・言動・態度が気取っていて反感・不快感を与えること。
"kiza" means, that you are (acting) shy with your clothing, attitude and behaviour causing a dislike and discomfort... in short " being tight"
WWWJDIC is one hell of a japanese-english dictionary(my fav one), but it doesn't have everything
this could be right.
I dunno, like tight shoulders, that you are totally stiff and stuff. Somehow I can imagine, tight could mean something like this. Whatever
WWWJDIC is right - 'snobby' is the closest definition of kiza.
Look at the definition in Japanese again. 気取る means 'taking on airs', as in being snobby - NOT being shy. That one I made sure to confirm on a Japanese dictionary.
But let's say your translation is correct - how is that being 'tight'? Am I really missing some obscure slang definition here? The Free Dictionary, yourdictionary and even urban dictionary say nothing of such. Your sudden matter-of-fact approval of this usage made me lol, though.
5. PLEASE elaborate what "tight" is =__=
3. Dude should pay half the time, at least.
But, number 3 should be number 1
Well, I have no sense of style, but other than that I hear I'm a fun drunk and I insist on paying the tab with any women present, so I guess I'm ok.
I'm always paying!
...for myself, at least.
"Fuck you, bitch! You wanted to come here; you pay! Or we can be reasonable and pay for our own meals. Point being, money don't grow on trees, I don't print money, and I'm not a money factory, so don't assume I'm just going to pay for every god damn thing. Maybe, you can get a god damn job."