How To Date a Japanese Girl

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A survey of Japanese women reveals just how to appease them on a date, which seems to be reducible to three simple steps.

Market research company iShare conducted a survey on Japanese dating habits in the 20-40 age range, asking women what they sought from a man when going on a date with him.

The (multiple choice) answers gathered seem to show certain clear preferences for what the man should be doing on any given date:

1. Driving (64.8%)

2. Deciding the type of date (55.6%)

3. Seeing her home (48.8%)

4. Deciding where to dine (42.6%)

5. Paying  for the meal (38.3%)

From this it can presumably be concluded that the proper way to date a Japanese girl is to pick where to conduct the date, drive the girl there, pay for everything, and then drive her home – easily remembered as “drive, pay and drop.”

Men asked the same questions wanted women to decide where to conduct the date (65.3%) and where to dine (56.5%), but not much else it seems.

Naturally there was some scepticism about these requirements when they were brought to the gender equality experts of 2ch:

What are we, dogsbodies?

Are they really looking for boyfriends…

They just want slaves to do their bidding.

What do they think men are?

Walking ATMs.

At least with 2D you are only stuck with the cost of the software.


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    Comment by Idreamofpocky

    I'd be happy with a pig american gf -.- *shoots self*

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    Comment by Bazzyrick
    06:34 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    I dont mind doing any of these things tbh. Its just Gentlemanly to do so. I wouldnt like it if the woman EXPECTED me to do those things though.

    Paying is an exception, I dont care either way. Depends on the couple really.

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    Comment by Sithreis
    07:05 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Go.... DUTCH

    *does Missy Elliot dance moves* Pass that dutch pass that dutch pass that dutch....

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    12:03 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha. You're so spending Christmas alone :D

    But then, for a guy with that avatar... =P

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:02 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    With almost all responses being divided 50/50 none of them are "clear" thus the results are pointless. The real answer is you have a 50/50 chance of being wrong when dating a japanese girl so might as well do what you want.

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    Comment by TyRANT
    14:55 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    With girls like these, it seems that men are better of just paying them for sex. Not much point in going through that trouble, when you "might" just end up doing the same thing later.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:10 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Sithreis: I'm Dutch, and the men here still pay for everything. I have no idea where that expression came from. :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:07 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like I said before, woman are the cancer of society.

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    Comment by TNinja
    00:10 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "5. Paying for the everything (38.3%)"
    Fixed. :)
    -shot-

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:19 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are these really the responses women gave? Man. Dating must be easy. I could have guessed most of those and I haven't been on a date. I guess talking isn't something they expect though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:05 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The phrase "going Dutch" originates from the concept of a Dutch door. Previously on farmhouses this consisted of two equal parts (Sullivan. 2010). Another school of thought is that is may be related to Dutch etiquette. In the Netherlands, it was not unusual to pay separately when going out as a group. When dating in a one-on-one situation, however, the man will most commonly pay for meals and drinks. English rivalry with the Netherlands especially during the period of the Anglo-Dutch Wars gave rise to several phrases including Dutch that promote certain negative stereotypes. Examples include Dutch courage, Dutch uncle and Dutch wife.

    from wikipedia

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:55 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    look on the bright side, guys, at least you get to pick where to eat and what to do, so you have more control over how much you spend. it really is just chivalrous to transport the girl and pay, at least for the first date.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 03/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @01:05 it's funny that stuff like that were also about english/french and so in my language, influenced by both these at some point there's this expression w/ options: "running away like an englishman/frenchman" XDD

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    Comment by Neferius
    20:51 19/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ 01:34 03/12/2010
    I do believe the phrase you are referring to is "Runs like a Welshman." :P

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S7_UAs7dAE

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    Comment by HouseLife
    07:22 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    This is all just a projection of what women seek in men. No matter who they are or what they are, there's a perception that is constantly present in the female human psychy, and that is that they seek a man that can provide protection and stability however that occurs to them, and on a date, that's how it projects itself. Even successful, strong-willed women seek that in men, but it manifests itself differently for them.

    Relationships are like miniature versions of civilizations. Once a person is prosperous, it starts seeking more exaggerated and exotic aspects of life. But if they're not as successful as they want to be, basic needs are sought first and foremost.

    Being the one to take charge on the date and have a plan is a basic manifestations of the masculine spirit, and whether they understand it or not, women respond to those aspects of the masculine ('sacred masculine' energy, not macho bullshit, although that too is an extension of the energy in certain forms). The spirit is constantly in motion and represents the masculine, the soul is a stable force representing the feminine. They both balance one another.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    07:55 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    "...not macho bullshit..."

    Not that I disagree with you, but are you perchance equating macho to violent or pretentious masculinity? At least that's what it seems to me.

    Being that I live with the culture that spawned the concept later adopted by americans, I would like to point out that a 'macho' is an exceptionally masculine man, comparable to 'GAR' in netspeak.

    The original concept may now be diluted, however, due to the influence of american media.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    08:15 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Macho, at least the original concept, may have been based on being a balanced masculine figure, but the idea of macho now has been synonymous with bullshit in my perception. The preening that has been brought into the 'machismo' concept is just a childish perception of boyish toughness layered onto an older, more... well... more respectable concept. So technically my 'macho bullshit' term still stands, as those who are basically bullshitting while pretending they are actually being macho are, in fact, the issue with the concept as a whole in current times.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:40 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe if you made your points more concise, people would actually bother reading it.

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    Comment by TenguSan
    10:36 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    i would actually want to do all those things on the list. i would love to be a gentleman to the girl, right up to opening the door for her and seating her in a chair. if i like her that much where i would be dating her, why would i not want to do these things?

    if you are unwilling to spend money on a woman or to do things like what is listed in order to make her feel happy and loved, you better get used to dying alone

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    Comment by HouseLife
    10:59 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I may be verbose, but that's not my intention. I take the Treebeard approach. I never say anything unless it is worth taking a long time to say. Whether people find it worthy to read is another matter.

    I just consider the internet full of trite enough statements that it's worth spending some time to attempt to rebirth intelligent discourse here and there.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    14:37 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "...my 'macho bullshit' term still stands..."

    Well, I wasn't trying to make you take it back or anything. I just wasn't clear on your perception of the concept, but since you elaborated I understand now, and it's what I tried to express by 'pretentious masculinity'.

    I would just like to reiterate my agreement with your ideas, good sir.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:28 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    how to date any girl.
    #1. Have A LOT OF MONEY.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    17:32 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Confidence overrides money. Simple reason: You can have all the money in the world, but nothing will ever happen if you never ask.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:25 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    or, you can have all the money in the world, and everyone will come to you so you don't have to ask.

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    Comment by VVayfarer
    22:54 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Having all the money in the world would suck - you think people would still think it has value? Of course not.

    I agree with 18:25's main point though - if you have a significant amount of money/power, you'll get lots of girls asking you out. Zero confidence or not, doesn't matter. Sure, having confidence would be a turn-on for the women (eww) but if you don't have the money, some won't want to date you.

    On another note, while I respect you (HL) for the various good posts you've made, what the heck were you smoking when you wrote the last paragraph? @07:22, "sacred", "spirit", "soul"? You can't be serious. I thought this discussion was at least quasi-scientific, so what's with the pseudo-science?

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    Comment by HouseLife
    03:47 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Depends how far into science you get, since science is now being forced to admit and seek out the more metaphysical aspects of reality. The Aura is now proven, the chakra can be seen by many people now and have been known about for thousands of years and hasn't changed in its purpose or description, the fact that humans now control their own reality through their perceptions is now accepted by science.

    Metaphysics has been at least 20 years ahead of science constantly, and anyone familiar with metaphysics looks at the new scientific discoveries and are left going 'it's about time... we've known that for generations... not to mention certain cultures have lived by that knowledge for centuries..." My father is also an AP Chem and Physics teacher and is also very understanding of the metaphysical presence in reality, so don't think they're all 'hippies' or whatever you might perceive.

    If you're one of those who don't make a distinction between religion and spirituality, then that requires further explanation, since there is next to no similarity between the two. One's political, one is much more.

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    Comment by VVayfarer
    04:39 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You needn't make assumptions about my views. We can't really determine another's personality across the internet, since they could be typing the opposite of their thoughts for all we knew. I'm not closed to new ideas, nor do I assume metaphysicists are hippies.

    We construct reality within our brains; that's no news. But I've never heard of any proof of the 'Aura', and all supernatural experiences could be just brushed off as symptoms of 'incomplete sanity', as in hallucinations and the like. Any elaboration on this?

    On another note, metaphysics being ahead of science sounds peculiar. I haven't studied its development so I wouldn't know, but as it's a branch of philosophy it can hardly make progress without fundamental changes in human brains/thinking.

    "Forced to admit" sounds off, too - it's not like science has a personality, nor are all or most proponents/believers of scientific realism the same. I'm also not sure about calling anything under science 'spiritual' or metaphysical - if something has been confirmed empirically, it ceases to fall under those two by definition.

    Arguing against spirituality in general wasn't my point, though. The point's that for "worldly" topics such as this, using scientific language is the best. Isn't that right?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:10 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wasn't determining personality, just preempting a common assumption for clarification. And it's not necessarily 'right,' but potentially more 'practical.' The trouble is practical language in this regard turns it into a study on animals, when humans have higher consciousness that we're discovering is governed by many things which aren't attributed to other animals.

    'Forced to admit' is not quite INcorrect, because science does have a personality, since it's done by humans who have personalities. There are hold-outs who are shown evidence over time where they may reluctantly agree. It's wonderful to believe in the true scientists who relish the evidence, but sadly most are not. Much like any other human, constantly changing beliefs takes a massive amount of mental endurance, not just intellect. They are literally analyzing things that defy our current understanding of physics, and there are many who simply use that as an excuse to ignore new ideas, because it hasn't entered their perception yet that perhaps we've been incorrect about aspects of physics all along.

    Metaphysics isn't philosophy, so much as an analytically assertive form of science. Philosophy denotes it has no practical use, when in reality "metaphysics" is simply a new name for things that have existed for thousands of years. Religions just did a wonderful job of calling it magic and making it synonymous with frivolity and/or evil. Renaming it for modern times is simply a conduit to reinsert it into society again.

    And you talk of 'constructing' reality with our brains as if you think I'm talking about something mental. Not in the slightest. I am literally saying that the human perception and intention literally shapes multidimensional reality around us based solely on our presence, and this has started to be proven through smaller experiments now, but yet again has been known for several millenia that that's how the world works. It's perceived through different filters and fears, but it's always been known in some form or another to the initiated minds of the past. The term Alchemy refers generally to that concept. Even prayer does this. In science, you can find it in the Placebo effect for a simple example. It's simultaneously incredibly simple and incredibly complex how directly humans shape the proverbial world around them.

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    Comment by VVayfarer
    23:04 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Science can be applied to humans, too. After all, according to scientific realism we're but complex machines.

    While scientists certainly have personalities, science itself is just a concept. Every new person that picks it up will make a new form of 'science' based on their own experience and beliefs - it doesn't mean it has a personality.

    Now here's something I don't understand. Science, and especially physics, is always conducted with the mindset that "tomorrow we may find that today's science has been completely wrong". Paradigm shifts happen. Scientists should accept that - normal and 'average' people might not.

    As for your definition of metaphysics, I'm not sure I follow. The 'philosophy' part doesn't mean it has no practical value, nor would it being a part of science change that. It's philosophical for many reasons, one being that it isn't empirical in the sense science is - metaphysics are explored by thought alone, like philosophy in general.

    Just to confirm:

    "Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy concerned with explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world,[1] although the term is not easily defined.[2] Traditionally, metaphysics attempts to answer two basic questions in the broadest possible terms:
    "What is there?" and
    "What is it like?"[3]"

    -> That's from Wikipedia, and pretty much in line with the other stuff on Google. Is this how you use the term? Many of the terms don't seem to fall under metaphysics (well, in a sense "everything" does) so I want to confirm that.

    Lastly, we can't know whether 'reality' exists outside our mind, so whether we literally affect it is a matter of belief. After clearing the jungle of concepts that's all that seems to remain. On the other hand, the rest of the last paragraph is more or less what I meant with "constructing" reality.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    05:52 04/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I figured you as a someone who claimed the brain is the reason we perceive reality would have understood what I meant by science having personality due to humans being the ones who practice it. Whether you call it a concept or not, no matter what the circumstances, it is humans that perform it, and will never escape personality in our race. Therefore, science has personality due to the very nature of humanity. Whether the definition does or not is irrelevant in its practice.

    As I said before, I do hope that the right scientists are in control who can constantly say "I'm wrong? COOL!" But the reality is, they are still human, and that will come up innumerable amounts of times.

    As for metaphysics' definition, honestly if the word philosophy fits, then by definition it could work, but let's face it these days philosophers aren't respected (outside of history books) and metaphysicians have been ridiculed because we can't point to obvious things that the layman can perceive as to why we know what we know. We, like scientists, always strive to perceive and know more, and use science for it most of the time as well, but there are also other explorations that science admittedly cannot follow yet and won't for quite a while. So in that regard, calling it 'philosophy' in modern times comes with connotative baggage I must admit.

    As for reality existing outside our mind, that's easily proven. We are in fact doing something right now. Whether it's an illusion or not, it still exists, therefore we exist, therefore this world is A reality whether it's called an illusion or not. Regardless of if the entire planet and us and our typing here is an illusion, it's still happening in one form or another, and nothing can happen if something does not exist. "The world is an illusion" is basically metaphysics 101, but it gets nobody anything except the possibility of going further. Unfortunately most don't go beyond that and then pretend they know something ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:17 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    When I had my first girlfriend, this is what I tended to do. She'd bring up going out somewhere, I'd suggest a place, we'd go, I'd cover costs mostly, and then I'd drop her off at home. One of our routes took us in the summer from the local movie theater, to the ice cream parlor next door, to the Barnes and Nobles just nearby where she could pick out a book she wanted (although I offered cash towards this, she would pay herself, but I would still offer out of courtesy). We had a good relationship for about a year, and we're still on very good terms with one another (my going to college is what ended it).

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:35 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I did this, and she turned out to be a prostitute. True story.

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    Comment by Reaver21
    09:12 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    most of the girls around me are destined for the same thing, 08:35.. Don't take me wrong, it's just that I can name at least 10 of them without hesitating.

    On the other hand, @08:17,
    You remind me of myself! :P Except, of course, that means you were around 18/19 (human years..) when that happened~~

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:10 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually 9:12, I was a Junior in high school, at seventeen. =P She was a fifteen year old freshman.

    The main reason I hadn't had a girlfriend before that was due to being an overbearing creepy guy. Once I figured out that half-stalking someone saying how much I loved them wasn't the way to make it work (though it took eight turn-downs between 7th and 9th grade), I got it right on lucky number nine.

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    Comment by yaku
    08:59 01/12/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    I'm all for gentlemanly gestures. It's more of a turn on than trying to play macho.

    I agree though that women shouldn't expect any of these actions, but they'd be very welcomed gestures on special occasions. Personally I wouldn't want no first-date to drive me home; what if he turns out to be crazy and now he knows where you live.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    11:02 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's thoughts like that that make me nervous to ask women out at all these days. I feel like as soon as I would ask, immediately the walls would go up and every action I do would be scrutinized as if I were trying to kidnap her or something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:39 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Recent story:

    I went on a date with a guy. Eventually we went back to his place to watch movies. I nodded off but was awake enough for this....

    So he gets up off the couch, goes into his bedroom, turns off the lights. Then I see nothing for a bit. Eyes adjust and I see him crawling on the ground. He gets out of my sight so get up looking for my purse, and he is behind the couch. I tried my best not to look freaked out.

    Despite this I still talked to him. Eventually I asked him if he was going to rape me. Turns out he had a pretty abusive ex that would make him sleep on the floor...and yeah.

    Dating world is scary >.>

    Anyways, I personally bring money. I don't expect to be paid for, but really on a 1st date you aren't going to win points by going dutch. (at least not with me)In a relationship it is different, I am certainly up to being mutual then. Granted I am American. My friend lives in Japan (school teacher) and is pretty good with the ladies. Though he does say they are more expensive always wanting name brands and what not.

    It is interesting. Men what sex, women want shineys. From a lot of the posts it seems most men don't want to pay unless they are getting some.

    That is about enough rambling at 2:40am.

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    Comment by yaku
    00:04 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @HouseLife: You're overreacting and you're missing the point. I'm not talking about judging your every action. In a lot of dates, you're basically alone with a stranger and need to use your common sense about disclosing some of your personal information. I'm talking about the very first date; or are you telling me letting them know your address right away is a wise choice?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:16 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Despite those answers, most Japanese couples go dutch. Or in my friend's case they take turns.

    That being said I'm fully prepared to pay in a girl's stead just because I can't stand the sight of watching a girl go for her wallet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:19 02/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's funny because when I first started to go out with my girlfriend she out-right refused to let me pay for her even though I offered. It confused me a bit at first, but I just went with it.

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    Comment by toyNN
    06:39 01/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Those responses are pretty much dating 101 - you decide, you pay. The driving part gets me since I kind of assume that in Japan those with cars are a class above those who don't. Unlike the USA where everyone has atleast 2 (running or not)

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    Comment by Abel Liegod
    07:10 01/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    This post is relevant to my interest.
    Oh wait, i already have a gf!
    Shiiii...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:08 01/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It isn't that different from love plus...

    Man the guys that created that game/simulation sure did their homework!! ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:11 01/12/2010 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    I just need someplace to keep my penis warm on a nightly basis... the warm, tight, juicy sensation of a young Japanese girls vagina fits the bill perfectly. And fucking shit NO TALKING, want only moans and screams of pleasure. FUCK. FUCK YA. hard cum.

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    Comment by WEL

    I second that. lol

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    Comment by VVayfarer
    23:12 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    At first I agreed, but as I read "moans and screams of PLEASURE" I changed my mind. You want to please the woman? Disgusting.

    The desire to sexually please a female and the sexual pleasure of a female are the two biggest turn-offs of all. Unfortunately seeing them as turn-ons is more common, due to most other men being weak, pussy-whipped wimps.

    Those repulsive "men" have ruined so many "stories" in all kinds of porn. Can't even read a doujin unless I know the text isn't a turn-off, which it usually is. Same goes for audio in videos. Don't wanna hear any "ah, give me more" shit.

    ... But I digress.

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    Comment by King Tiger
    10:49 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    1. Driving (64.8%)

    2. Deciding the type of date (55.6%)

    3. Seeing her home (48.8%)

    4. Deciding where to dine (42.6%)

    5. Paying for the meal (38.3%)
    -----------------------------------------
    "drive, pay, and drop" eh? sounds like an ordinary date to me those guys at 2ch need to loosen up a little
    -----------------------------------------
    Naturally there was some skepticism about these requirements when they were brought to the gender equality experts of 2ch:

    What are we, dogsbodies?

    Are they really looking for boyfriends…

    They just want slaves to do their bidding.

    What do they think men are?

    Walking ATMs.

    At least with 2D you are only stuck with the cost of the software.
    -----------------------------------------
    wow 2ch just wow

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    Comment by Renzo
    15:58 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If she's done 'right' I guess all of those articles up there can be forgiven :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:15 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    An ordinary date includes sex. Taking someone out, buying them dinner etc are a waste of damn time unless there is sex. That's the exchange between men and women....women seek a man who makes enough to support her and men seek a woman to fuck. Now simple logic tells us that if one side wants what the other has (i.e. money) then they'd best be giving up what the other side wants (sex). Now I'm not a boor, not all dates HAVE to be this way but if we're not having sex, then our date is a walk in the park to look at nature topped off with a nice drink of tap water and some scintillating conversation (in other words, no sex == no money spent). Want the fancy night out? Spread 'em.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:40 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    How many soaps have you watched to come up with this concept? Wait... I don't think I want to know.

    Also, what I'm going to say now might sound silly, but what's the point of even dating someone if all you want from them is sex? Paying ridiculous amounts of money just to get a pussy to fuck sounds extremely desperate, don't you think? Besides, there's a chance your money will go to waste and you won't get any anyways.

    Let's say a girl was modest and she didn't have sex with you after three dates, surely you'd dump her, because it's not her feelings you're after and you just wasted so much cash on her, right? Pretty irresponsible, in my opinion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:39 01/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    What's the point of dating for sex? It's fun. I love it when a girl spend hours telling me how virtuous or shy she is at dinner then she comes back to my place and pins her heels behind her ears. You just can't get that kind of comedy from a prostitute.

    As for 3 dates, it wouldn't happen. If you don't put out on date 1, there is no date 2. What's the point? Human attraction happens in seconds...there is no such thing as gradually being attracted to someone. If someone tells you that what they're really saying is "I'm not attracted to you at all but I'm willing to ignore that to get what I want" (relationship, money, whatever).

    And as for so much cash, don't be a rookie. All guys should know that when you go out on a date you eat at home first so you can order a salad at the restaurant. This will make the girl also order a salad so as not to appear gluttonous in front of you. Do not drink alcohol....that's something you do with other men for fun, drinking with women sucks and usually ends up bad. 40 dollar date limit...I don't bring more money and I don't bring credit cards or ATM card. The point of dating is to SHOW women how much money you have without giving them any.

    PS all this is from a male point of view. Females have their own agenda and more power to them but they ain't gettin' my money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:12 23/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know this is a year old, but wow...
    I hate to think that people like this exist in the world.







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