Japanese asked what kind of behaviour they find intolerable from a woman on a “goukon” (a group blind date normally held at a bar) supply a helpful ranking of dating faux pas.
The ranking (with votes in brackets):
1. Acting like a little girl to seem cute [“burikko”] (8684)
2. Constantly checking her phone (5455)
3. Being a bad drunk (2762)
4. Being bossy (2757)
5. Not going along with the mood (2010)
6. Only talking about herself (1153)
7. Not talking (1093)
8. Not paying (963)
9. Being tight (255)
10. Dressing badly (232)
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How the fuck is no.1 bad? That's what I want girls to act like. Girls in America act too mature if anything.
I think you misspelled "bitchy" there.
Find: Mature
Replace: bitchy
You're right.
We miss the Gal types here in the west!
I thought being tight was a good thing. /kneeslap
LMAO your avatar completely tops off your comment.
Maybe it was supposed to be 'uptight'. I mean FOR GOD'S SAKE, what straight man would NOT want a tight pussy? Unless, they like doing whores with crevices that make any dick akin to a hotdog entering a subway tunnel...
as if we need to worry about such things...
Hey now, you don't know that for sure...
that was certainly unexpected. how can u tell the girl is "acting" cute?
>that was certainly unexpected. how can u tell the girl is "acting" cute?
> Acting like a little girl to seem cute
Expressions, voice, things she does, how she's dressed, what she talks about, what kind of image is she trying to set for herself.
"Expressions, voice, things she does, how she's dressed, what she talks about, what kind of image is she trying to set for herself."
Sounds like we're back to No.1
"Acting like a little girl to seem cute" if she was trying to act like a loli shes got a backhand coming her way.
I don't really mind girls acting cute.
And SURELY I don't mind the girl being too "tight" either. Hurr durr.
Acting cute and acting like a child in order to be cute aren't one and the same. Why are you guys typing like they were?
I'm guessing it means 'acting like you're retarded and lack basic vocabulary' here, but I could be wrong. Nothing wrong with dating a kid, but trying to have a serious talk with one might annoy some.
@Schrobby
"6. ONLY talking about herself"
Acting cute was number 1 because all the other women on the date who get jealous voted for it.
I think they mean excessively talking about themselves. Like instead of just talking about yourself when I ask you about something or when it's appropriate you just go on and on about what you do.
Two of those points are weird. A girl talking about herself is bad? I thought such dates exist to get to know new people.
I see nothing wrong with acting cute either. Quite the contrary. :3
#2 is the worst. #8/9 are a bit ridiculous though it is a blind-date so each paying is reasonable. #5 on the other hand...Not going with the Mood? So you're in the mood for sex and she isn't? Bad girl....
@VVayfarer "Nothing wrong with dating a kid" - Nothing wrong for me too, but just because we're not australian/american/british :D
"8. Not paying (963)"
What a bitch eh!!
2. is so rude, it really sends signals that she is bored/not enjoying herself.
It is so easy to tell the people who never go on dates by the questions they ask. Everything on this list is easily understood. The only one that is even sort of ambiguous is the being "tight," but most can easily figure out this means up-tight.
Acting cute is the art of duck-face.
That mouth "3" that fails 99% of the time.
If it does work... cool.
Maybe acting cute in the sense of "reversion" as a coping mechanism... perhaps?
Just seem Japanese men don't really know what they want >_>
> Acting like a little girl to seem cute
Expressions, voice, things she does, how she's dressed, what she talks about, what kind of image is she trying to set for herself.
> It can get annoying at times but once it a while i find it cute and tolerable.
Also "Being tight"? Tight as in down there or tight as is attitude o.o
weird. for me checking the phone constantly is more annoying then acting overly cute. at least she is showing interest. I FUCKING HATE people checking their phone so much.
I actually have this problem that when I check my phone for the time, while listening to whoever I'm with, I forget the time and have to check it again.
constantly checking phone = no interest = bye.
or even tight with money...
I think the phone thing is actually becoming part of our "more connected" culture. There's information overload, everyone practically has ADD and wants updates from everything. For all you know she could be tweeting about how awesome her date is/ asking 2ch for advice. Some people also think that by texting/tweeting/facebooking/etc in a group gathering that they're being more social, not less. If she's doing this and you find some excuse to peer over her shoulder and she's playing a crap iphone game then you should probably say "i see," and then find an excuse to leave.
Up tight perhaps
or like super organized type person
@ 19:47
constantly checking phone
=
maybe cheating on you!!
@ 19:27
Agree, two votes from me.
Sounds like you wouldn't like Rie Kugimiya, and not because of her man-cheeks and non-existent breasts either, lol.
Also, there's this seiyuu I know with a regular talking voice as small as one of the roles she played(that little mahou shoujo from Rosario + Vampire). Forgot her name, though I do remember her being capable of a more normal voice like she did with Sora Hasegawa in Aa~ Megami Sama.
Those don't constitute acting anymore now does it, try a wrinkled cougar with at least 10 visible pink ribbons and frills.
well, I could be wrong then.
But hearing her talk normally in Campanella; I just thought that would be her normal voice rather than the high pitch one.
But then again, Hiranao Aya...
@Anon 00:57
Really? Because I remember seeing this 'seiyuu special' for the DVD where they interviewed the entire main cast in a mock-classroom, and I could almost swear to God she spoke in the exact same pitch as Yukari(thanks for reminding me).
And I see no reason for her to mock her voice up seeing that Mizuki, Kugimiya, Fukuen and Inoue spoke normally(especially refreshing for Mizuki since she sounds too fake when she cutes her voice up). I also remember hearing her speaking in the same high pitch in other interviews.
Though if you can provide me with a video link of her speaking normally when talking about herself, that would make me believe you more.
You're thinking of the witch Yukari.
Her voice is pretty normal actually.
She did Carina in Shukufuku no Campanella.
"1. Acting like a little girl to seem cute ["burikko"] (8684)"
I hate this in anime- HIGH VOICE =/= CUTE. AMAGAMI'S SAE HAD THE MOST ANNOYING VOICE EVER.
"A girl talking about herself is bad?"
Gah ! I once thought talkative girl were easy dates, just relax and let them yap...what a fool i was. Had a date with this girl...she talked for 2 hours NON-STOP ! I could only insert 3 lines in all that time ! So yeah, quiet girls are the best !
talking ONLY about herself. :)
Act like a little retard child is not like acting like a cute girl.
*Acting
I never said acting like a little girl to seem cute = being retarded.
I pointed out the things by which you can understand she's trying hard to do so.
I think the point is the girl
acts like a little girl (on behavior)
and INTENDS to make herself seems cute
but NOT neccessary being REALLY cute
It's pretty fucking obvious when they are faking it if you ask me.
I guess if you feel insulted that she is acting that way or she is patronizing you in some way, I suppose that is crossing the line.
I suppose there's a tasteful way to act cute if the girl does the act with the boyfriend in on the act. It'd be insulting if she was roleplaying and making a mockery of a date.
For me, constantly checking a phone is a dangerous sign. So is being a drunk or addicted on something. Those are just bad human traits, period.
I think one can just tell when someone is pretend-cute or born to act cute. Those things are body languages that are difficult to explain in an Internet argument.
Constantly checking phone means that you're just not that interesting for her to pay much attention, so it's a bad sign alright.
Being drunk? Depending on your motives for going on a date, there is an opportunity to be had. *grin*
If you're around enough Asian girls who hang around guys their age, you catch up pretty quickly the way they act cutesy (instead of just being cute by nature), high-pitching their voices, acting shy and calling the guy cutes names or onii-chan. They don't necessarily do it trying to hook up; they also do it so people have a better image of them.
I've been around enough to assure you very soon you want to strangle these two-faced girls (unless you're a naive guy or a guy who likes that kind of thing).
Weelll, onii-chan is still way better than oji-san...
damn agree
Who the hell calls someone "Onii-chan" on a date anyway?
I'd freak out if a woman did that to me -- giving the rest of the public the impression you were dating your little sister, anyway?
If I DID have a little sister and WAS dating her, I certainly wouldn't be telling people about it.
You guys fail to realize in Japan nii-chan (or nii-san) aren't used strictly for only blood-relations; they can also be used by strangers calling out on someone (for example thugs calling a girl over by using "nee-chan") or affectionately by younger people to older acquaintances.
It cant be accounted for all women, but there are some that try to act very cute that just... arent meant to be cute. They can be sexy, bombshell sexy, yes, but not cute.
Yes especially when they're suppose to be (grown) women not little girls unless your into that type of thing. @@
Acting cute = 'Actually not cute but behaves ( and worse pretends/disguises) like one'
It's better to become true self though :)
Also, in Japanese, little girls often call themselves by name instead of using I (so instead of "Atashi wa barusamikku-suu ga suki desu" they might say "Sakura wa barusamikku-suu ga suki desu", where the girl's name is Sakura). Older girls (usually late teens and early twenties) sometimes do this to seem "cute" or "childish". For me, it sets my teeth on edge to hear an older Japanese girl talking about herself in third person. Kawaisugimasu yo.
Being a bad drunk always works for me.
i really wonder what they mean with "bad drunk" here.
I think what "bad drunk" means is that she is bitchy and insulting, or perhaps acting slutty around other guys. (which many girls sadly does)
1. Acting like a little girl to seem cute (depends)
7. Not talking
8. Not paying
10. Dressing badly (depends)
^i can tolerate these just fine^
everything else: i cannot
@viewtifu1 I think it means that they try to be cute even though they are not. Or it could have meant they are trying too hard to be cute and instead of cute, you get a retarded childish behavior, like what Kyon said.
i guess it's "over-/poorly acting cute" that annoys people. there a difference between naïveté and stupidity (theory of "rainman vs simple jack"), and stupidity is NOT sexy by my book.