A major Japanese boy band has been caught copying a hit Vocaloid song, enraging Miku’s legion of defenders.
The band in question is KAT-TUN, a generic boy band from the famous “Johnny’s” stable of generic boy bands. They stand accused of copying AVTechNO!’s song “DYE,” sung by Megurine Luka and published in one of Miku’s many hit albums.
The tunes:
KAT-TUN: NEVER x OVER ～｢-｣ IS YOUR PART～
Player 1
Megurine Luka Original: DYE (from Hatsune Miku’s “Vocalogenesis” album, an Oricon number 1)
Player 2
In response to this brazen act of plagiarism, the emotionally frail creator of the song deleted all his works from Nico due to the “shock.” He confirms that he gave no permission for any such usage of his works.
To think only days ago a traditional musician was deriding Miku for being a mere machine…
god, it’s up to personal opinion of who YOU THINK should be to blame for this song’s plagiarism. i personally blame the people who wrote KAT-TUN’s song for them, not KAT-TUN themselves who were given the song to sing, maybe having never heard the other song before. this is not a reason to call people idiots and bring them down with this mess. that is MY OPINION. people will feel the same, people will think otherwise. it’s not worth arguing.
So society is at the point where even they themselves can no longer be original. I guess it’s the end of everything.
XD I guess the song is better with KAT-TUN lol
I love the way people talking they do nothing about. Actually Johnnys bands DO play all kinds of instruments and compose thier music.
And regarding this song, it’s the creater of Over and Over should be at fault and not KAT-TUN. They didn’t create this song, but just sang the material that was given to them.
Not a fan, but it is to hard to put : REMIX on your shit…?
Then again I can’t blame the guy, when a I hear current songs of the past get remixed by all these ignornant nigglets and their dance styles.
They are worthless monkeys.
From todays, “Do the Jerk”, too the present fake dance of the time its, “Do the Swag” I slapped my nephew really hard when I saw him dress like that and said.
Learn how to fight and defend yourself if you have that much energy. He said I can defend myself, so I put him in a ring vs another kid across the street with his fathers permission from both parents.
We watch my nephew who dance, hip, get his ass beat by a nerd… now that… is entertainment.
rip off of vocaloid song? sure maybe
Kat-tun involved? maybe
people bashing boy bands and fanning over computer voices? completely idoitic and stupid >_>
yeah they do sound the same but still come on people no need to go all super vocaloid fan on the band. i mean oh wow so the ‘luka’ song ( a computerized voice) was copied abit by song writers ( NOT THE ACTUAL BAND ITSELF!!!) its the end of the world lets all rally aginst boy bands.
but oh well fan’s will be fans……. *sighs and walks away*
Maybe you’d feel better if you were the poor artist who spent hours, maybe days, maybe MONTHS to compose a song, and have someone just blatantly STEAL half of your hard work away from you- with the gall to not even change it in the slightest. Oh, and not to mention the possible copyright charges you can face, despite it being your ORIGINAL work.
And the band* is responsible for its song writers.
Puke.
And the issue isn’t with the vocaloids. It’s Kat-tun illegally stealing from another composer. Depending on the outcome of this situation, it can determine the future survival of smaller composers such as AVtechNO!. :/
they made miku cry….TTwTT
no!luka･･･
Have the Japanese ever heard of a “remix?”
The musician is an idiot for deleting everything and not demanding royalties. He could receive royalty money AND he could be getting more exposure for his music!
This drama shows that he already has a fan-base, which could be drastically increased in number if he wasn’t such a jackass.
Well you are clearly an idiot, and you have clearly never heard of Johnny’s before. It’s okay… the second one is curable.
I always encourage people to do their own research, but I’ll leave you with this: the drama occurred not because of the Vocaloid producer who was plagiarized, but because the song accused of plagiarism belongs to a very high-profile boy band.
fkin nippon gay boy band, go and cut your ballz plz …
They done goofed… How did they think they could get away with it?
it’s just a song jesus christ guys get over it
Copyright laws exist for a reason. How would you feel if you made something that was pretty cool but not that big, and then a HUGE company shamelessly stole it and made money off of it hand over fist? And you feel so hopeless because you know that no matter what you do, you’re going to lose to the huge company that can do practically whatever it wants because of its power?
That’s pretty much the situation right now. Whether it’s “just” a song, a story, a picture, or whatever, it’s the fact that an injustice was served and that it will most likely never be made right for AVTechNO because Johnny’s is just too big.
pop stars stealing songs? holy shit!
Why do boy bands still exist?
Miku appears in tv show in a lot of country… and them?
they are in the fucking guinness book of world records \m/
Excuse me glass eaters, what the fuck are you doing?
Given that the original has gibberish lyrics and the melodies are far from identical, I think this is just an unfortunate coincidence in chord progressions and electronic instrumentation and fans are overreacting just a little too much.
1. Just because it’s Engrish doesn’t mean it’s gibberish, and 2. what the hell do the lyrics have to do with anything when we’re talking about the music?
3. If you don’t believe it’s plagiarism after watching http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12908786 then you’re not going to believe it no matter what, so… yeah. *shrugs*
Thanks to these asshole members of a boyband all the songs from AVTechNO were taken off of Nico. God damn it!
That’s not the reason LOL. The author stated he only realized that it was happening after the fact. His account was deleted due to stress of an undisclosed origin.
Boy bands suck and synthesized voices suck. There’s too much suck in one place!
That’s okay. The song sucked anyways.
I realize you’re probably just trolling, but I’m going to reply anyway:
the quality of the song has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it was plagiarized, and plagiarism is *always* wrong.
If someone plagiarized and made money off of a Taylor Swift song, of course I wouldn’t be angry about it, since well, y’know, but that certainly doesn’t make it OKAY.
Yeah, I dont want to offend anyone, but I personally can’t find any reason whay this is a hit song
I don’t blame you. Everyone has different tastes.
That’s pretty sad when a boy band has to rip of a Miku song :C
I feel for the creator dude, bitches be stealing his music
You mean a Luka song.
really? DYE? that’s it? you copy 1 thing and sacrifice yourselves and used DYE? oh yeah. genius move that one.
if you can come up with something better other than a copy of vocaloid song, do tell me.
ahem…FUCKING BOY BAND! JUST GO FUCK ONE ANOTHER IF YOU CAN’T EVEN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN SONG! DOES JAPANESE MUSIC REALLY FALLING BEHIND A FRIGGIN VOCALOID THAT THEY NEED TO DO THIS??? GO DIE! ALL OF YOU WORTHLESS BOY BANDS!!!
Boy Band’s don’t write their own songs, their Song writers do.
Just like Vocaloids, Boy Band’s don’t sing their own songs too.
Don’t cry Miku…
Is it bad that I like the Vocaloid version better?
Absolutely not.
Luka’s version gave me chills and a .
KAT-TUN’s was terrible…
why is this miku hit song? it’s Luka Hit song……..
I don’t hear the plagiarism here. Yes, they sound a lot alike, yes you can play one on top of the other, but is this really a case of one copying the other or is it just one formulaic pop song sounding like another formulaic pop song?
As formulaic as most pop music is, you don’t copy someone else’s arrangement down to the notes and pay jackshit.
P. Diddy, as shity as he is, still went out of his way to pay those who he sampled their music from. So far the only obvious pop offender is Black Eyed Peas, but only hippies care about them.
You don’t hear the plagiarism, even with videos of the two songs mashed to each other? You’re nothing but a trolling faggot or some butthurt boyband whore. Clear off all that disgusting wax out of your ear while you’re at it.
Your uninsightful opinion is not desired. No thanks. 🙂
No need to reason with the Interwebz, just chow down on it’s meaty stupidity and join the party.
Otherwise you’d just get unnecessarily angry.
“The story of possible plagiarism has been steadily gaining ground, with a blurb written about it on Yahoo News, as well as mixi (account required), and -although their handle on Vocaloid knowledge seems to be shaky, even Sankaku Complex-(NSFW)”
lold when I read this on another site. s’what you get for writing ‘Miku’ when its clearly Luka.
It’s a Megurine Luka original, you fucking moron.
Vocalogenesis isn’t a Miku CD either. It’s a Vocaloid greatest hits album.
For someone who likes reporting Miku…yeah wait never mind that pretty much explains everything.
And the author stated he only realized that it was happening after the fact. His account was deleted due to stress of an undisclosed origin. Why would he delete because he’s being ripped off?
Fking Die boy band. Stealing my beloved Luka’s Song …. Q_Q
Jpop cover?
psssh! nonsense! wait for the bollywood cover!
Made by Benny Lava.
…Can we stop equating any vocaloid=Miku?
It’s Luka’s song. Not Miku’s. Change the headline and put an awesome Luka picture up instead.
FFF, even if I dislike Mikutards and the annoying amount of”news” Sankaku posts about her; this is just hilarious. KAT-TUN has sunken so low. I thought Kamenashi was smarter than that. As an ATTechNO fan I’m a bit insulted. (& maybe I’m wrong but I’m pretty certain that this is not Miku but rather Luka whom I love…)
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! LETS START AN PURGE OF BOY BANDS! WHO’S WITH ME?
they are cute, so I approve of this appropriation.
I really have to wonder how many of you fanboys would be saying all of this if it was Miku who ripped off Kat-Tun.
Except Miku has nothing to do with this situation. In other words, your statement doesn’t really fit.
Miku can rip off no one 🙂 you know
and if we wouldn’t care – and if you go to youtube…
Actually, the mass video deletion came before,.he did it on impulse due to stress (or so he claims). He only found out about the plagiarism after the fact.
Wow that’s pathetic, what a shameless rip off. Their rip off sucks and sounds pretty terrible. The guys aren’t even that cute so I can’t forgive them for ripping off Luka-nee. By the way why’s the article titled “Japanese Boy Band Rips Off Hatsune Miku Hit Song”? It’s a Luka song not Miku. I mean come on her song’s already been ripped off and now title falsely credits the song to Miku? Poor Luka-nee, she doesn’t deserve this.
I agree. Poor Luka-nee :_: Shes way better than Miku…
Thank you! I’m glad someone caught that. Miku. Always stealing Lukas credit. -sigh-
maybe it’s a parody on that French lady…
why did you make miku cry 🙁
anyways plagiarism is bad, at least admit it KAT-TUN
you know that if you want to rip something off you have to change a bit more than that……….
Boy band uh.. stick to the formula.
Those who bash techno obviously….don’t like it, whatever.
For me, AVTechNO! songs made me appreciate the genre, I love 90% of his songs. NEL, DYE, Free, Winter Sakura, Project File KVLR, all of these songs feel like they carry a message.
I don’t have specific favorite genre’s in music. If the lyrics hit the spot, it’s enough for me to like a song.
And for those who say DYE is crap: you are probably highly skilled artists, and could probably do better.
AND for those who bash Vocaloid: the leek-Y-probes are waiting for you… OTL-< YYY
The cover didn’t even sound like the actual song to me 0_o, then again I only listened for a few seconds before turning it off
I can understand that you listened only for a few seconds but then you shouldn’t say that it’s not the same.
Shame on you!
I stopped reading the first sentence but continued to the end anyway so that I’d know what is really going on!
And I endured over 8 minutes of headache from listening to techno just to make sure I know what the hell I’m talking about!
TRY HARDER, COMRADE! THE PATH TO TRUTH IS LAID WITH PAIN AND MISERY!
All of it being laid by KAT-TUN in this case… =P
Oh, fuck Vocaloid. I’m going home.
okay I go listen to five finger donkey punch nao
didn’t not worth reading even though its like 5 sentences i think but al i got to say is miku will conquer them
Neither are very good
I love how most dumbasses here keep talking about those fags ripping off Miku when in fact, it’s dear Megurine Luka being ripped off. Of course not many would listen to Luka’s goodness (since they’re too busy fapping to loli Miku) to know that Dye is HER song and think that just because it was published under Miku’s name, it’s Miku’s.
Even then, one has to wonder about whether some have reading comprehension trouble because it was mentioned in the article who the ORIGINAL singer is as well as a performance vid…
But what do I know, Artefact is trying to gain more views by digging up this 3DPD VS. Miku (just like what he did with the PS3 VS x-box thing) so it’d be bad to make an article that Luka herself should deserve now, isn’t it?
Also, why would Miku’s legion of fans be enraged when this shit doesn’t concern them? Thank you for the concern though LOL
PS: No more AVtechno for Luka? =/
You do know that Luka’s and Miku’s fanbases at the very least overlap, and at most are the same, do you?
I agree on the headline being wrong, though. It should say Luka, not Miku, or at the very least Vocaloid.
Well, it’s gonna happen sooner or later. The price for becoming famous.
Damn, my head hurts after hearing both songs…
I TOLD’JA, TECHNO MAKES PEOPLE’S HEADS HURT! IT’S A WONDER PEOPLE BUY THOSE SONGS!
son… i am disappoint..
get off from my Miku, you fuckn morons !
“This video is private.”
Wow…
Pff…
Fangirls > otakus, so you better shut up fast LOL xDDD
So they lifted the back-beat?
That happens all the time in professional music.
Big deal…
Music industry has layers of lawsuits, pretty likely they paid some royalty for the back-beats especially if there’s a commercial sale involved.
Considering AVtech had no idea about this, it’s rip-off or theft and as it took others to notice this the boy band didn’t credit the creator at all.
Now there will be more people listening to the boy band music just to see if they ripped off other musicians. A dangerous marketing tactic.
And unrelated: pirates jumping on navy ships to hunt down other pirates.
If they were a cute Japanese girl band, this wouldn’t be any problem to any of you neckbeards…
You’re saying as if all girls get a free pass for being girls.
Didn’t work for Aya Hirano. It all started just from her wearing her bikini in reverse and it snowballed from there…
Oh and btw… except for the beginning, the rest of the music consists of their OWN solos instrumental, so that couldn’t have possibly been stolen…
OH GREAT.
Friggin’ Vocaloids will get more fans now.
I liked the beginning of the boy band version more than the original, the original is just… bland all the way through, not really memorable, when they started singing though it took a nose dive straight to oblivion.
The original was okay at best, the melody has a lot of potential, the artist should re-make it with more distinct instruments and vocals, it’s just one big mess right now judging from that video.
As for boy band ripping stuff like that, he should be able to come to some kind of agreement with the band, i don’t think suing is an option unless he’s rich already, going to trial could ruin your economy if you were to lose no matter where you live.
If this happened in the US, he’d substantially have more fighting chance, considering how even McDonald’s fell for a lawsuit involving an old lady who’s too senile to comprehend how hot is a ‘hot coffee’ without being warned.
Though, since we’re talking about music…. Lyor Cohen faced lawsuit and was sentenced to cough up cash. Then MAGICALLY, he succeeded in geting the appeal to lower the compensation, until the federal court decided to botch the whole ruling completely.
Scares me what Warner Music is capable of….
Pathetic…
Boy band wanting to be girl vocaloid. Fail.
Wait, are you saying the artist who created the original work deleted his stuff? If that is the case… WTF?
Johnny’s is basically the Japanese equivalent of Warner, with possible Yakuza ties added in.
I’m not sure him just removing all his works of his own accord is actually what happened.
both songs sucks. but at least i prefere artificial song than boys band ….
So old man Johnny wants to “borrow” some work from the internet and perform it on his own boy band.
What’s next, make a Vocaloid of of Johnny’s? Man, this has to stop for being the rulers of J-Pop-dom!
They should totally make a Vocaloid of a Johnny. They did it for Gackt…
They did it for a lot of songs/artists.
Nick Simmons should do their cover art.
Burn the Heretic!
Purge the Heresy!
Rise Up! Rise Up!
Boy bitches’ video won’t play; “This is a private video”
That’s because the video got rained on by comments saying how much of a ripoff of DYE it was for the short time it was public.
Fixed.
Not to worry, found another link;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLODRUrX24
Kat-tun using this is the best that can happen to vocaloid
No one here is smart enough to think that that boyband probably doesn’t even know it’s a copied song? c’mon they don’t write their song, this is the work of a lazy composer
So true. They might write some of their own solo songs, but even the aspiring songwriters in Johnny’s can’t write something like this.
KILL THEM ALL!!
LUKA FOREVER!
My rage level is rising!
Appearently this boyband chose to ruin their own career. Feel the wrath of thousands of Otakus!
Ruin their career?? c’mon is Johnny’s entertainment, is like a mafia.
Seems I’m not the only one around here who felt that.
Taking down Johnny’s Entertainment is like taking down Warner Music: never gonna happen.
As a Johnny’s fan who hears all the gossip about how crazy Johnny’s is, I have to concur. Mafia is an excellent analogy.
RAGING-RYU-KEN!
Kat-tun better watch out for RAGING Otakus because it over 9000
Totally not condoning what they’re doing, and most of that track has the distinct sound of crap, but to be perfectly honest… the parts that are ripped actually sound better than the original.
You’re comparing something made with a consumer-grade PC to a professional studio recording, lol.
Doesn’t change the fact that they took the key notes, chords and rhythm from someone else they didn’t appropriately compensate.
they maybe though the original song sounds like crap so who will notice…
I kinda agree, though I may be biased since techno music always make my head hurt, especially when driving.
Doesn’t sooth the little wannabe-artist in me though, seeing someone getting ripped by a giant corporation who should have no problem donating a few hundred bucks.
Oh well… Maybe Johnny’s is a Japanese subsidiary of that Jew Warner Music owner?
They could choose a better song to rip off
– I love Luka but the original version is shit
Bad boy band ripping a bad song…
“creator of the song deleted all his works from Nico” – and probably nothing of value was lost
Yeah, the song is nothing special, but you forget about this..
“Megurine Luka Original: DYE (from Hatsune Miku’s “Vocalogenesis” album, an Oricon number 1)”
What is this KAT-TUN?
Are they supposed to be a boy band?
It’s a typo of ‘cartoon’.
You know ones like Tom & Jerry where if you get hit by a bomb, the only thing that will happen to you is charcoaled fur, or that you’ll leave a perfect hole in the shape of yourself if you slam yourself at high speed through a wall(concrete or stone)?
There needs to be anime that stupid. I really need to unwind with crazy shit sometimes.
/nonsense
No, the name KAT-TUN came first; the cartoon pun was added to their TV spot.
KAT-TUN is just the initials of the 6 guys in the boy band.
k-Kazuya Kamenashi
A-Jin Akanishi (not in the band any more)
T-Junnosuke Taguchi
T-Koki Tanaka
U-Tatsuya Ueda
N-Yuichi Nakamaru
just to help you
miss A alot
imho the 2 versions suck… both of them.
where is the fucking rock? i feel nothing listening to those songs.
What the fuck?
I have no problem with the fact you dislike the song, but your reasoning is stupid.
The Vocaloid artist’s name was “AVTechNO!”, why are you surprised there’s no rock?
I agree, I didn’t like either too
Imitation, the highest form of flattery.
Does tend to put paid to the notion Vocaloids are not artists 🙂
Vocaloids are real enough to get ripped off like any other musician.
I dunno what’s worst:
get a rant from Visual K bands or get plagiarized by boybands.
either way, no one wins.
…..hey, I know this is not right, and the KAT-TUn should apologize for using the original work without permission…but dont you think if we mix the two of them…it kinda good? although yeah if KA-TUN alone it suck
the composer should apologize, not kat-tun
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No wonder it’s not one of their best songs..
Yeah, i listened to the other songs of the Change ur World single, and this is the only one I hated. Now it makes sense!
Don’t hear any similarities.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/charts/niconico/player.php?vid=sm12897980
Nico video with the two songs playing together for the copied beginning before the ripoff goes off playing some random shit. Lyrics used are different, but the BGM is the exact same.
It feels crazy that the overlapped version sounds better than KAT-TUN’s by itself.
that’s exactly what I thought. :/ I don’t hear any similarities and I love KAT-TUN and most of the male bands in Japan and Korea.
“I don’t hear any similarities and I love KAT-TUN and most of the male bands in Japan and Korea.”
Regardless of whether or not KAT-TUN bears any responsibility in this issue, you tried to defend them and destroy your credibility all in one sentence.
You would look less biased if you claim not to like them. Of course, whether or not you do has no real relevance to the issue at hand.
Also, butthurt boyband whores. I’m surprised so many of them came here and did the whiteknighting. Probably someone link this page to them on Facebook/MySpace and other similiar social networking faggotry.
Well that pretty much sums it all up, of you course you like boybands, you are DEAF!
gay band X_X
boy bands??? … they should be called gay bands
“Hey guys! Let’s rip off some obscure Vocaloid song! I’m sure no one would notice because it isn’t MELT or Just Be Friends!”
That must be what went through their minds.
Cartoon KAT-TUN! How can you do this to me Kamenashi!
I knowwwwwwwwww!!! D:
I blame Jin for leaving, somehow this is his fault XD
Someone at Johnny’s didn’t read the small printed:
“When plagiarizing please consider the sharp eared army of Vocaloid fans…”
They should have hired the sharp eyed 2channers to read their documents.
I never really looked into who are the assholes managing these faggots because I just don’t wanna care, but they belong to Johnny’s?
Some japfag who ran a website called MasaMedia made a blog entry revealing how Johnny’s uses every dirty trick in the book of entertainment industry…
I kinda understand now, why the original IP creator DELETED FUCKING EVERYTHING. It’s the only thing he can do: try and stop any further plagiarism. If it’s true that Johnny’s is responsible, he’d sell his soul to the devil and still can’t win a legal battle with them.
It’s true that Johnny’s is pretty dirty and not sueable, but that doesn’t mean the original creator will “lose.” Johnny’s is so paranoid about the group’s image that they’ll do anything to avoid losing face (this is the same group that banned members permanently just for underage drinking. Gotta preserve that family-friendly image!). If the creator can bring any media attention at all to this incident, Johnny’s will pay them tons of hush money first. What would probably happen is that KAT-TUN will get away with it, but the creator will probably be made not to care so much anymore.
They can impose all those seemingly fair and stoic rules upon all the bands under their employ to stop the problems those band members would create.
What we’re talking about now though, is not something KAT-TUN is technically at fault at all(ethically, I think they should learn to play some instrument and make their own shit, but that’s another topic). We’re talking about Johnny’s own internal staff fucking it up.
It’s the only thing he can do if he wants nobody to listen to his music.
Seems he only cares for the fame…
LOL, who the fuck are they never even heard of them. This is probably just a lame publicity stunt to get their name out
Wow, really? Uh, I guess you only listen to anison; that’s like commenting on American music and not knowing who Lady Gaga is. KAT-TUN is pretty much the most famous and popular male musicians in all of Japan; they’ve certainly broken the most Oricon records. In other words, like literally every in Japan under the age of like 65 knows their name
yeah, they just did an entire week of concerts in tokyo dome last year but they still need to ‘get their name out’ omg
Maybe you never hear about them because you only care about anime, manga and videogames. KAT-TUN is pretty famous in Japan (and asia)
Unfortunately…
Actually this is like a compliment how vocaloids are popular.
And it brings more publicity for Vocaloid.
wow, direct rip pretty much. the original composer should take legal action instead of just being shocked and then feel offended.
I just listened to their stupid rip-off version and the parts they “added” in just made the whole song horrible =_=
at least the part they jacked (the techno parts) sounded ok.
In all honesty, I couldn’t keep track of how many different tunes they must’ve ripped. I mean, the pace changes like five or six times.
Anyone know what other songs they stole from?
That song is supposed to be their introduction music in lives. The funny medley-style part during the song are the members’ solo works or something, according to KAT-TUN fans. It explains the huge list of composers credited for that said song.
He should repost his work as well.
You pay him fees for hiring a lawyer, and shield him from potential threats and blackmails from the assholes-in-suits running the agency that manage faggots like these.
…Can you?
Johnny’s is powerful, but they are definitely not untargetable. They’re VERY careful about their image, so what’s most likely going to happen is they’ll pay the original creator huge sums of hush money.
You’re assuming the BEST CASE SCENARIO ONLY, man…
You didn’t take into account their involvement with yakuza. I might about to cross the line by speculating like a tabloid journalist having a field day, but who’s to say and guarantee that AVTechNO! chose to STFU and DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING not because he was threatened in some way that would physically harm him and his family?
Also, paying the AVTechNO! for what he really deserves NOW, AFTER ALL THE SHIT’S SPREAD BY THE FAN, would kinda stress the fact that they’re guilty. Corporations don’t like to admit to making mistakes.
A lot of times artists who don’t compose their own songs have no idea if their songs have parts stolen from others. I’ve never actually heard of “DYE” until now.
Of course, KAT-TUN is not entirely to blame for this. If they created their own content, they wouldn’t be boybands in the first place.
I did mention “the assholes-in-suits running the agency that manage faggots like these.” I’m referring to those in their agency most likely responsible for this.
As far as I’m concerned, the original IP creator’s chances are like a cold day in hell. He’s up against Electronic Arts of Japanese idol/music agency.
i guess they were looking for a mediocre sound, i say mission accomplished KAT-TUN
The article is strange isn’t it. It is Luka’s song being ripped off. It seems like Miku has become a representative for everything relates to Vocaloid
Doesn’t matter if it’s Miku’s or Luka’s song. Those ripping off any Vocaloid song deserve death warrants…
Personally, this requires something worse than death for punishment since it’s Luka’s song… *searching for Death Note inside a drawer*
>boyband
wait, I thought all bands in japan were now girl bands…
Apparently you weren’t aware of S.M.A.P. and Arashi or some shit.
They’re cancers that are ruining Japanese pop music.
Well, tbh at least I can still sit and somewhat enjoy to Arashi.. SMAP on the other hand while I personally hardly find their stuff good, at least has one cool guy who I really salute. KAT-TUN on the other hand were sorta more like a band of guys who “Hey, lookit me dancing to our drastically Auto-Tuned songs.”
Now don’t let me start talking about Korean boy bands…
Agreed. Although they have plastic surgery, you’ve got to admire their work ethic. TVXQ works very hard.
Dong Bang Sin Gi is GOD.
Ugh.
I can feel my skin literally crawling when I hear or see the word “boy band”
*shivers*
Nah, the abysmal girl bands did that already. Don’t mistake your lust for their pussy for musical quality …
^_°
Stand tall! Don’t let these maggots ruin Hatsune Miku’s conquest!! >:(
Are these boy bands stupid?
Or are they just stupid?
I mean, to rip off something popular, they’re bound to get found out.
I think it is more likely that the guys in the band had no idea and they were just doing as they were told. I mean do you think they normally write their songs? I bet it was some higher up.
sometimes they are responsible for their lyrics, but are rarely the ones to compose songs
I wouldn’t be surprised if 1 of them ‘came up’ with the song, and the 4 others didn’t even know about the Miku song.
Or, their producer thought about ripping off this Miku song and none of the members themselves knew the original Luka one.
Anything’s possible, but damn their version sucks ass.
Since I can’t edit:
I meant ‘Luka song’, not Miku song. I didn’t pay attention to what I was typing. Too bad.
Dumbest fools ripping off Miku.
They should have sang Justin Bieber songs.
@Arya
So you’re telling me that 80% of all those “This(video/music displayed) is better than that Bieber shit” and “Those who don’t like this likes Bieber” comments I’m seeing on Youtube is his publicist’s doing?
CONSPIRACY!
OK, from now on, nobody says Justin Bieber. Oh crap, I just said Justin Bieber. Oh crap, I said it again…
His/her publicists won’t let you.
As much as I dislike Justin Bieber(for the same reasons why I hate Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, etc; they JUST irritate me, it’s weird), seeing his name mentioned in every corner of Youtube’s music videos and pretty much everywhere else makes me wanna puke.
People should just do themselves a favor and stop bringing up Bieber. Bad publicity is still publicity, and they say “There is no such thing as bad publicity”.
You wanna see him fail? JUST PRETEND ‘JUSTIN BIEBER’ DOESN’T EXIST!!
Yep…
It sucks like a Hollywood movie adaptation of a videogame/anime…
The KAT-TUN song feels… like a montage, somehow. Like they slapped it together from a few sources. We’ll see if this is the case.
They are not stupid more like retarded
Stupidity is curable.
Retardism is a whole different ball game.
i think the agence behide them is the worng do´ers her, because i know that those 5 guys did not make they own choice to be in kat-tun they did get thougen in to the band of je, so i do not think that kame, koki, ueda, maru and junsouke have that freedom to say no
DICKtionary loves correcting people eh?
THE WORD IS RETARDATION.
…christ.
Ignorance aside, stupidity is much more curable than mental retardism. It’s just a matter of effort to be learned and move away from “stupidity”
Wrong.
Ignorance is curable. Stupidity AND retardism isn’t.
KAT-TUN themselves might belong more in the ‘ignorance’ camp more than everything else, but they wouldn’t be in this shit in the first place if they just make their own music.
Hell, anyone can just pick a guitar(and learn some basic chords), find a drummer and make a band these days. Look at Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance… Even the great Kurt Cobain learnt bit-by-bit during his teenage days of living under the bridge and squatting in abandoned buildings.
But bah… dem Asians prefer seeing faggots prancing around the stage doing karaokes than giving attention to those who atleast put some effort into becoming a musician.
*becomes more depressed when he realizes he’s Asian himself…*
‘…boy band…’
Stopped reading there…
Boysband again.. ( already tired of it )
I guess not only boysband
It is hard now to find truly creative and original works
Nothing is original anymore, that much is prevalent in music industry now. And that’s OK, because people can still create new things by improving on what’s already there.
What we have here, though, is the case of a bunch of composers hired by Japan’s bigshot company, being supposed professionals that they are, ripping off a niche composer without properly compensating him or even a god-damn mention in the credits.
Composition: Hans Johnson / t-oga / NAO / ATSUSHI / Tatsuya Ueda / King of Slick / Magnus Funemyr
Arrangement: Hans Johnson
(from the credits for KAT-TUN’s knock-off)
It took them SEVEN(7) composers to make this shit and yet they don’t know what the fuck is wrong? They can’t even change the beat a bit or switch a note or chord here and there?
For more complicated evidence(soundwaves, etc. sound engineers only need apply, lol), the following article has a bunch of Internet detectives using software to dissect the two songs.
http://community.livejournal.com/singing_robots/56133.html
They’re killing REAL composers
@ jamesownsall
same
boy band be jealous
Well as they say… Imitation is the sincerest for of flattery… Oh who am I kidding BURN’EM AT THE STAKE FOR PLAGIARIZING VOCALOID D<
Their female fans would probably swear up and down the lyrics are “original”
I love KAT-TUN and even I think this is suspect.
Heresy remove this filth. They tainted a good vocaloid song.
great work gentlemen…..now onto our next topic to be settled…Miku A-0965NEGI Gundam model manufacture
lol no worries they’ll probably be taken to a back alleyway and “disappear” lol
her conquest continues unabated
OFF WITH THEY HEADS!!!! PREPARE POLISH LEEK PROBES!!!!
just like VISUAL KEI, KAT-TUN is GARBAGE!
first emos, now we got homos holy crap are the female singing groups and miku the only ones that make sense in japan’s music industry?
You guys seriously need to spend some time exploring Doujin music. If you think those guys are any good, you haven’t seen enough music.
Hope you forgot the indies/underground scene…
agreed Jam project is too awesome to miss, don’t forget those sentai/vintage anime singers, now those are bad ass. The guy who sang the mazinger theme in particular.
and yeah I agree Kat-tun ain’t good only fan-girls would like such things. heck TM revolution and L’arc en Ciel would kick them any day of the week.
“…are the female singing groups and miku the only ones that make sense in japan’s music industry?”
Jam Project, the underrated bands like BOC, Monkey Majik, and those Evergreen singers can fill that positive list anytime.
Since I can’t edit at 22:30…
Yeap, it’s all over the Net now. The original IP creator is ‘AVtechNO!’.
His info here:
http://www.hearjapan.com/store/member_info/AVTechNO
Source:
http://www.hearjapan.com/news/artist_news/KATTUN_Rips_Off_AVTechNO
Someone at Johnny’s pulled a Timbaland and sampled Luka’s song without consent alright…
Please DIE.
I actually love KAT-TUN. And there are plenty of talented MALE artists in Japan: MUCC, Bump of Chicken, Asian Kung-fu Generation, One OK Rock, and the list goes on… You’re just biased.
If you ask me, what you call ‘female singing groups’ are just paid karaoke-goers that add nothing to the song they sing except for their voice. Their looks serve as decoy that’ll lure people to give away their greens.
Of course, it’s not so bad if the original songwriter still gets his cash, but it doesn’t seem this way in this case. I’ll refrain from commenting further though until I verify Artefact’s source.
“KAT-TUN is garbage” I hope you die in a horrible death
KAT-TUN’s pretty good.
These heathens should be thrown in a 9 foot hole in the ground and drowned in green-colored fangirl manure with visible bits of leeks and octopus…
*shakes head*
Really, they can’t come up with their own song..?
This whole thing is a lot bigger than it should be. What would music be without remixing? Look at the techno genre in general, there are so many remixes of lots of songs, if everyone complained plagiarism for each song that was remixed slightly, techno wouldn’t exist.
Personally, I don’t like the song that much, but the parts that used the DYE background music were actually fairly well done.
Y’know, I almost spat out my drink in disgust when I read Boyband and Britney Spears in the same sent-
Well, looks like I’ll have to clean that up.
Lampoon
10:57
i have to agree on that too, however they sound a bit to masked, over all i hate the sound of a boy band regardless of language, so i may not be the right person to have an opinion on which is better.
The vocals on DYE were intentionally masked.
I personally didn’t like KAT-TUN’s version. Just another boy band.
I really hate it when things like this happen, they deserve some kind of punishment for this but to be fair, not the worse punishment in the world, still, actions should be taken against them for such a thing…
HouseLife
07:14
you are kind of right, this miku one is a bit hard to understand but not entirely impossible, one thing that i think boy bands must pride themselves on is you can understand what they say at any given time.
i mean you listen yo music long enough even in your native language, there will be at least 10 songs where you need to see lyrics to actually know what they are saying, weather this is due to bad mixing, or bad vocals aside, i have never had this problem with a boy band.
now what you said about boy bands being able to move… ill give them credit for standing after being in a hour long concert. but there are 2 kinds of boy bands, the ones that sing live, and ones that dont get caught lip syncing. and even than, you have to ask what is a boy bands purpose? i say get a tween market with songs and how they look and older teen by how they look, so is lip syncing a big deal with them?
anyway, the only respect a boy band gets from me is being in shape, but than most people can get that from me.
Guess I’m not hip or something… honestly the vocaloid version kind of harmed my ears in places. I couldn’t understand what was being said if anything. I honestly found the boy band to be more melodic and have better instrumentation, so honestly I must give them some credit for making a good rendition. Not mentioning that it may have been a rendition however was their fault and it’s right that they’re called on it.
I came to a realization a long time ago when I actually gave N-Sync a chance and watched their live concert in the 90s I think it was. I had no real interest in them, but there’s one thing I must, MUST give credit for. Those guys work their asses off. There may be 100 different boy bands churned out a month, and they may be based on looks, but they also MUST have some capabilities as musicians. That’s not to say they’re not covered by electronics and voice adjustment of course, but the work that goes into performances and concerts and dancing and such is truly hard work that deserves at least that much respect, regardless of musical taste.
After taking in their looks, name, and music, the word “Generic” comes to mind.
I think Boy-Bands are just below Bieber on the totem pole.
@alidan
then perhaps they should write the songs and not the manager?
i thought that kinda came with being a ‘band’
If they can’t face the plausible up-coming consequences, then they shouldn’t cry if shit hits their face.
@AiEM Regarding the NEWS thing, that’s actually not true. Japanese artists often buy songs from European songwriters who sell the same songs to European artists because they figure there will be no overlap. It happens ALL the time and is not plagiarism because they have the creator’s express permission to use the song because… they bought it. lol
AiEm
00:14
i kind of feal sorry for those people, the band that is.
imagine this, you are sitting there, only there to look pretty, than something like this hits you, and it was probably the manager who bought th e thing form a composer. thay have no fucking clue what to do
do they admit they plegerised? and face horrible possibilities (not working in music anymore)
to they admit they dont write their songs, and face the possibility that any fan they had will leave them?
this is the definition of rock and hard place.
They’d probably be a little disappointed to get a leek up the ass, they’d be hoping for something more phallic…
@megidola
Well if it’s a boy band they’re proboly homos and would like a leek up the ass. We should just throw them into a spike pit along with the bunny sitter, Kim Jung, and bill gates.
This is actually not first time this happened. Another similar thing was that one NEWS member’s single(another boy band by Johnny’s) and had this one song that REALLY had the same melody as the song by some famous singer in Germany(Not sure if Germany but is in some Europe Country) which then resulted in Fan wars….
Jesus Christ… I can’t believe I know these stuff…
In any case, I doubt that these people compose their own music. I’m pretty sure they hire a composer to do the dirty work. But whatever….
Plagiarism is plagiarism somebody’s got to take the sh*t for this.
They can copy my fist in their face free of charge. *crack knuckles*
I’d say they deserve the punishment of a leek up the ass for this, but considering it’s a boy band they’ve probably had much worse up there…
What’s with these boy bands making horrible stuffs to Miku? KAT-TUN should have ripped off one of Aya Hirano’s songs instead (or they can just rip off Britney Spears’).
@AiEm
actually the news song was recorded before the german one, but that’s not important. People need to understand that usually (not in this case but..) groups and singers buy songs from composers and the fact that two or more singers buy the song is not new.
its called a remix
It’s not ripping off, it’s called sampling. Artists of any genre do it for a lot of their feature tracks.
And you think sampling shouldn’t involve compensating the original IP creator for i? What?
Why the hell did someone pay Radiohead 1 million dollars to sample their songs? Out of sheer need to dispose excess money?
You don’t take someone’s work without crediting it. That’s equivalent of people pirating Photoshop: what they create with it is original, but they still need to cough up cash to buy that thing in the first place.
Hi. Miku and KAT-TUN aren’t the authors of the synthetic music ! That’s a rumor this plagiarism ! The true author of the song is a Japanese woman.
Why believe you all bad people said on the web ?
The 5 artists of KAT-TUN have much talent and the nice voices. My opinion is Megurine Luka has a horrible voice ! For KAT-TUN, the proof, look the video here, please: http://vie-et-passions.over-blog.net/article-a-gift-for-you-for-closing-my-blog-change-ur-world-by-kat-tun-japan-original-clip-to-vosta-romaji-62169756.html
Sun lives in Belgium and Japan.She knows well the KAT-TUN, I think and she is a compositor, too. If you want true infos about this affair why don’t you ask him ? Hey, talk french or Japanese (preference) Hiromu
Stop fucking bashing on j-rockers/ j-pop when you don’t even know what the fuck you are talking about.
Seriously fuck off you miku-tards…
If you seriously followed miku you wouldn’t have so much hate in you’re veins.
“You are overreacting!
You talk about ignorance? Look at all these comments =))
NeverxOver is supposed to be an introduction song for the band. Each verse talks about a member followed by the a mixed instrumental of their OWN solos. Except for the beginning, which does sound a little similar. Stop blaming KAT-TUN. They only wrote the lyrics. As for the beginning which is the only similarity… I don’t know who came up with it. EVEN SO. I noticed someone here was very upset because the members didn’t know about this song… well I’m getting headaches just listening to it… I guess… techno? it is not my thing… but hey at least I listened until the end.
Boohoo! KAT-TUN has more fans than Vocaloid ever had. They don’t give a rat’s ass about it, since it’s not their fault. Aaaaahhh… otakus… *there there*
PS: Don’t bother replying. I won’t check it anyway. Just thought I should clear some things out. Ja neee~”
“I love how most dumbasses here keep talking about those fags ripping off Miku when in fact, it’s dear Megurine Luka being ripped off. Of course not many would listen to Luka’s goodness (since they’re too busy fapping to loli Miku) to know that Dye is HER song and think that just because it was published under Miku’s name, it’s Miku’s.
Even then, one has to wonder about whether some have reading comprehension trouble because it was mentioned in the article who the ORIGINAL singer is as well as a performance vid…
But what do I know, Artefact is trying to gain more views by digging up this 3DPD VS. Miku (just like what he did with the PS3 VS x-box thing) so it’d be bad to make an article that Luka herself should deserve now, isn’t it?
Also, why would Miku’s legion of fans be enraged when this shit doesn’t concern them? Thank you for the concern though LOL
PS: No more AVtechno for Luka? =/”
(There’s you’re truth)
This chick(ened) actually manage a hit-and-run accident, isn’t IT ?…….. ( or NOT )
Do you think with your long writing( or writhing) and all the explanation will get through ?
You are one of the HYPOCRITE out there, and once u’re bashing on other people opinion then you’re not becoming any (better) person out there
Sigh .. -_-
Those who bash techno obviously….don’t like it, whatever.
For me, AVTechNO! songs made me appreciate the genre, I love 90% of his songs. NEL, DYE, Free, Winter Sakura, Project File KVLR, all of these songs feel like they carry a message.
I don’t have specific favorite genre’s in music. If the lyrics hit the spot, it’s enough for me to like a song.
And for those who say DYE is crap: you are probably highly skilled artists, and could probably make better songs…
*hmm, just checked the original video… I wonder what all those じゃにーずしねええええええええええええええ! mean….
AND for those who bash Vocaloid: the leek-Y-probes are waiting for you… OTL-< YYY
I think they’re telling Johnny’s to die(that long hiragana ‘shineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee’).
As if… They’re the Jews of Japanese pop industry.
seems like everyone misunderstand this case. AVTechNO! deleted all his works on NND BEFORE he knows about this incident. he know the incident AFTER he re-check the comments left on his deleted movies.
source: http://39miku.seesaa.net/article/171220580.html (AVTechNO!’s new blog)
true that he never gave permission for KAT-TUN, though he DID NOT deleted his work because of this incident. just to make it clear.
Thanks for the new info, yo.
copyright it is and they should be punished, however Hatsune Miku is still only a mere machine as you put it, the day hatsune enters western music charts is the day i give up all hope of decent music reaching my ears, as if auto tune wasn’t bad enough.
cry moar baby english vocaloid is on the way
Then do it right now, as the English voice has already been confirmed. Go on, go on, cry in a corner.
If all human musicians sound like robots now, why don’t we just get robot singers?
KAT-TUN’s intro is a short ascending/descending rhythmic digital melody injected with intermittent metallic bass notes, whilst the luka one is repetitive digital melody of ascending high notes. it’s just like beethoven (KAT-TUN) vs mozart (luka), in my opinion.
You have no idea what you are talking about do you anon?
He either missed the link to the video that overlapped the two songs or he tried to play the opposition camp and wanted to make himself look intelligent.
Almost equivalent to having some pundit testify in court about why a bullet shouldn’t penetrate brick walls, while there are pictures and post-mortem reports of a guy behind the wall with a bullet hole who clearly died from a gunshot wound from the only gunshot fired in the whole incident.
Though in court, devilish lawyers have let murderers loose by sheer power of words alone even with the mount of irrefutable scientific evidence.
look where the intelligent one was hiding xD
You are overreacting!
You talk about ignorance? Look at all these comments =))
NeverxOver is supposed to be an introduction song for the band. Each verse talks about a member followed by the a mixed instrumental of their OWN solos. Except for the beginning, which does sound a little similar. Stop blaming KAT-TUN. They only wrote the lyrics. As for the beginning which is the only similarity… I don’t know who came up with it. EVEN SO. I noticed someone here was very upset because the members didn’t know about this song… well I’m getting headaches just listening to it… I guess… techno? it is not my thing… but hey at least I listened until the end.
Boohoo! KAT-TUN has more fans than Vocaloid ever had. They don’t give a rat’s ass about it, since it’s not their fault. Aaaaahhh… otakus… *there there*
PS: Don’t bother replying. I won’t check it anyway. Just thought I should clear some things out. Ja neee~
The song was shit, I doubt that they have very many fans compared to Vocaloid since this is the first time I’ve ever heard of them, and it is YOU who is ignorant, not us. Fucking fanbitch. GTFO of Sankaku and go back to listening to your gay-ass music.
PS: Don’t fuck with us. You are gonna take a look to see if there are replies. Even if you don’t say anything, you could very well be looking at this right now.
Worldwide, Miku certainly has more fans. But KAT-TUN’s popularity in Japan is undeniable. I think only ARASHI is above them.
And the Tokyo Dome comment above explains it all.
Are yo serious? KAT-TUN don’t have many fans?? you live in a fantasy otaku world.
When Miku get a week of concert in Tokyo Dome, maybe you will be more right
Now i know why japan hates otakus.
Because of stupid shit like this.
I don’t give a shit they stole it. I think it’s a good thing HUMANS are singing this anyway. Vocaloids sound like computerized shit.
Aren’t you just jealous? *yawns*
And overreacting?
GO KAT-TUN!!
“Aren’t you just jealous?”
Nope, though we know some faggy dude did.
Kamenashi Kazuya and Ueda Tatsuya are prettier than Hatsune Miku
Wow i can’t believe this shit,you guys actually prefer a 2d created by some human singing ? shit that’s sad for you guys i think.Miku is just a fuk up thingy.It’s not real GET OVER IT.I don’t see her singing as a god voice,more like some 3 years old who got her throat fuk up.
That guy/girl(@Anon 08:04) is Miku-hater, so leave him/her be :3
just rip off all you want as long as you “think” yours are better.
i beat $5k that you go to university.
This article is about ripoff in the first place, not about Miku/Luka/Vocaloid. Ripoff is wrong, it doesn’t matter where the source comes from, because a human created the song, not the software. If you can’t grasp this simple logic, you fail as a human being, and thus officially dubbed as: FAIL TROLL IS FAIL.
He used a computer app that CREATED THE SONG FOR HIM. If anything, it’s the computer that should be complaining if it sounds similar.
Ignorant otakus………………….
No, he created the song using a computer app.
Like how you used a computer to look retarded.
Nah, I think he’s right. The Vocaloid does pretty much everything. ANYWAY it’s just crap, so it doesn’t matter. But KAT-TUN had 5 composers for this song, I just can’t get how all 5 would agree on this stupidity…
Well at least my head doesn’t hurt from the kattun one….
“Some random guy who just tweak around the Vocaloid program as a pastime at home did better job than these 5 ppl combined then.”
…I never really thought to what extent is the lulz from this shit.
“KAT-TUN had 5 composers for this song.”
Clap hands for just stating how pathetic the one you’re trying to defend. Some random guy who just tweak around the Vocaloid program as a pastime at home did better job than these 5 ppl combined then.
…so you say Vocaloid writes the lyrics and makes the music by itself >_>
Yellow japs never make real music.
Creepy miku is enough for them.
again.