A visual kei band member denouncing Hatsune Miku and the other Vocaloids as “not being real music” has prompted outrage amongst Miku’s legion of devoted followers.
The visual kei band (essentially Japanese style glam/gothic rock marketed to women on the basis of visual appeal) in question is “The GazettE,” considered highly popular for a visual kei outfit.
Group member “Aoi” tweeted to his 40,000 followers about how threatened he feels by Miku and company:
I don’t like to say this but I’m not happy seeing listeners and magazines treat Vocaloid stuff as real “[artistic] works.”
It’s certainly marvellous technology, but if you are satisfied with that there’s no point in us making music. I could go so far as to say it makes what we’re doing nothing but masturbation.
People who treat mere machines like that as being equal to artists are crazy.
This immediately provoked outrage amongst Vocaloid fans, and rather than stand and face their indignation he apparently deleted the Tweet and fled, although by this time it was too late and Vocaloid fans from far and wide were piling in on the fight.
2ch’s reaction is mixed:
He’s right!
Yes, right.
No idea who he is but he speaks the truth.
Mikutards are going crazy…
He’s pretty pompous for a cheap knock off of Dir En Grey.
Is he criticising Vocaloids or their songs?
If he’s just going to delete and run he should have kept his mouth shut.
What the hell is this guy about? Fancies himself an artiste? Get out of it.
Can we call this guy’s stuff “works” either?
A popular visual kei band you say? I’ve never heard of them.
They’re both trash.
Visual kei is the same sort of thing as Vocaloids. I can do without either.
You visual kei idiots are the same. Your songs are worthless and you are judged on looks alone.
Vocaloids are “works”? They’re just instruments…
He’s just bothered about being beaten by a machine. Just admit it.
Visual kei is a desecration of music.
Why is it celebs always self-destruct as soon as they get a Twitter account?
They’re both just as creepy as each other.
Making a name for yourself by dissing Vocaloids is pretty simple to pull off it seems.
This is like an artist saying CG art isn’t real art. If it has fans it’s real.
Some self-proclaimed artiste is the equal of Miku – what a joke!
Aoi vs Miku:
Why is this fool talking smack, when you know pop artists like him do not write their own music and everything they wear or do is critiqued by a group of paid professionals.
Did it not occur to him that some people might like Vocaloid music AND non-vocaloid music? Vocaloids were originally marketed as an instrument, just like a guitar or a drum kit. The people producing musical works using the vocaloid instrument are no less worthy of artistic recognition than any other musician. If people enjoy listening to an electronic voice, it has as much merit as a human voice, just as an electric guitar has as much merit as an acoustic guitar. Machines being treated as equal to humans is a different argument, and while it is a valid point, he shouldn’t have tried to use it to undermine the talent of Vocaloid producers.
He’s in a visual kei band…
He is basically a vocaloid himself, someone elses tool for making music, but with an overinflated ego.
Wait, that’s not entirely true… The people who make music through him are mainly in it for the money, while the people who use Vocaloids quite often just want to make music.
In conclusion, this instrument, or if I may, musical Tool, should go back to pumping out his bland, pointless music until his fans tire of him, his producers abandon him and he ends up selling his body for crack.
That said, the Vocaloid fans should go back to their overly specialiced (And thereby limited) synthesizers, and keep making their equaly droll, but at least heartfelt music, and stop pretending that they matter.
LOL just noticed that all the pro vk comments get thumbs down… honestly guys, if people aren’t allowed to voice their opinions, then seriously, thats just oppression.
Honestly, live wise, I dislike watching miku live. Sure there is a band playing the background but thats all it ever is, just the background, while everyone stares at CG Miku, which is seamless and effortless.
I enjoy watching Gazette Dvds because you can see how much effort they put into their show, how tired they get after 1.5 hours + 1 hour encore.
To me, watching Miku live Dvds is just like watching it over and over again just in different views.
Watching Gazette live Dvds, you can see how they try to make it their best show.
If you like Miku, then I’m okay with that, but honestly it makes MY (EMPHASIS) ears bleed. But people say that real people make Miku’s music, but really who are they? Most people cite that its made by who her songs are from, but don’t really know who.
I listened to po pi po or w/e and world is mine, they are just selling her. There’s no lyrical heart in it. Po pi po is about selling vegetable juice, wheres the love in that? World is mine makes Miku a arrogant, self righteous bitch. There, I said it, thumb this down, but you know I’m right
Vocaloid’s just a tool.
It only means something when an actual person sings the song.
Otherwise the robotic voices still suck and lack emotion.