Haruhi Never Looked So Good – DVD vs Blu-ray

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Haruhi fans are in awe of the image quality on offer in the just released limited edition Blu-ray box set edition of the series.

The comparison (in lossless png – it will obviously be necessary to view these images in full size to see just how overpowering the difference in image quality is):

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The set consists of the entire 28 episode series on 5 discs, running to 650 minutes, and a further 430 minutes of extras on an additional 3 discs. English subtitles are included on the discs.

The set is available now, and seems to be proving popular in spite of its high price – it is Amazon’s 2nd best selling BD, beaten out only by the power of Nanoha.


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    Avatar of Piecake
    Comment by Piecake
    19:29 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Way too high for my wallet. What the fuck. Those are some fantastic quality improvements though.

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    Comment by Piecake
    19:30 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Seriously though. I think they would sell much more if they would just price these discs at rates comparable to American television season releases. I'm not business major though, so prove me wrong.

    -shrug-

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    Comment by alidan

    its hard to explain what buying anime in japan will do to you if anyone ever finds out.

    many people, you employer included may actually be more understanding of you if you raped a kid, were caught on video, and the kid died in the hospital from internal bleeding, than if you have any anime product.

    that said, per disc of k-on was 100$ right?

    for the content you get, its relitivly cheap, considering they remastered everything, and to tis extent,

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    Comment by emry
    22:25 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    This statement is wrong in so many ways.

    Just buying anime, in and of itself is not likely to get noticed.

    Buying certain types might get noticed if anyone actually cares.

    As for your statement about rape being more forgivable, that just brings up stereotypes that kind of piss me off.

    As for prices, I haven't seen anything here for $100 a disk. :P Most I ever saw was about $70. hehehehehehehe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:10 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Nanoha movie's $100 depending on where you buy it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:09 27/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I'd buy it for 100 dollars. Why? Investment. Wait till' it has sold so fast there's a demand, then pawn it off to some otaku for more. Heh.

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    Comment by alidan
    16:58 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    emry
    22:25

    k-on bluray came out for 100$ per disc for 2 episodes each.

    and besides, its funny how people still think thats a stereotype, that you are completely fucked socially if you are found to watch anime after a certain age.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    20:07 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Facepalm in HD. Perfect.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    21:25 26/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Nagato Yuki and Co. waki exposure in HD...

    Totally worth the price~

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    Comment by KomariMax
    00:02 27/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    POWER OVERWHELMING

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    >POWER OVERWHELMING

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:34 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    OWER POVERWHELMING<

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    Comment by Megidola
    21:23 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I imagine the prices are so high because the anime fans will still buy it anyway, and everyone else wouldn't buy it even at a lower price.

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    Comment by Artefact

    It's called price elasticity of demand. It's a valid pricing strategy.

    A bunch of cheapskate Americans who can barely keep "niche" shows like Futurama and Firefly in production have no business criticising a business model which sustains an entire animation industry on the backs of a few hundred thousand consumers at best.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Artefact, the shit is too high of a price regardless of how you swing it.

    It is a strategy called exploitation.

    If you go to Japan, normal people don't give a crap about anime. This is nothing more than another way to get stupid peoples money.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    09:43 28/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "This is nothing more than another way to get stupid peoples money."

    It's been going on around the world since money was invented, friend...

    It's just how you make it work in the end that counts~

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    Comment by erochichi
    05:28 30/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon 04:26, who are normal people, when it all comes around? I am not saying that only otaku`s are, but surely there`s more of dangerous sorts running free, or spending their money on stupid things. New car every year, weapons, drugs...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:25 14/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't think you can compare Japan and America like that. Here, the broadcaster typically shoulders the entire cost of a show, and usually reaps nothing from the DVD/iTunes/Bluray sales. In other words, in America ratings are the ONLY thing that matters. If a show does not perform well enough, it will be canned. It doesn't matter how much money the DVDs make.

    P.S. your example fails hard. Firefly had excellent DVD sales, enough to get a movie made, which, like the show itself, barely anyone watched.

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    Comment by Chiaki H
    11:26 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, there's no "sunday market" for anime goods and pop culture in Japan anymore. People either will buy it or they won't.

    For stuff like this, you milk what you can and cut and run when the interest dips for something else.

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    Comment by Dia
    19:36 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The quality different is huge. What the fuck. I thought this would be one of those sarcastic articles.

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    Comment by Accoun
    19:40 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I second that. But still, do want...

    Comment by Anonymous

    is it really worth to buy expensive Blue Ray for endless eight?

    Comment by Anonymous

    too expensive for endless eight

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    Comment by AiEm
    20:11 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No plans on buying this but I Agree... These things are financial nightmares.

    In any case can't wait to see the bluray rip of the OP. That is one sweet quality bump.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    20:31 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I wonder if it's an actual quality improvement, but rather, putting the original source into true high definition screen resolution.

    Because the actual art doesn't seem to have been changed at all. Kind of like what some older 80's and 90's movies were filmed in very high resolution onto film but were crammed into very small screen resolution for VCRs and then we saw the benefit of them being released on DVDs. And nowadays, we see them re-encoded into high def format and they actually look sharper.

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    Comment by Bond Travolta
    21:18 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Having worked in a production studio once, as I see it apparently that's what's going on. See, when studios work on video files they tend to be done at a very high resolution unless they're vector. This ensures the highest quality of master copy should they expect to release said works in better definiton than what the initial release allows at only a certain extent of quality, among other reasons.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    15:54 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cool. Thanks for the insight!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:31 14/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry, but you're wrong in this case. And probably, in many cases in the anime industry. Haruhi is an upscale, however they completely re-did the OP and/or ED, which is why they look so good.

    Even FMA: Brotherhood is sourced at "only" 540p, despite being broadcast in HD.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    20:31 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I find myself curious about the subtitle accuracy. I wonder if they got them from their American counterpart to guarantee higher quality in the translations.

    Either way, I'd be willing to spend perhaps 200 on this with all the extras if they were localized and everything. I'd prefer less of course, but that's as high as I'd be able to go for this based on its popularity and quality and the like.

    If the American branch were to release this, they'd be very intelligent if they were to get the English voice actors in to do their version of the extras and go for that amount. More is better in that regard.

    And if it had outtakes... well... they can have my first born. I'm a whore for outtakes (thank you, Berserk!).

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:08 26/11/2010 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    If they were intelligent they'd sell a cheaper version without those worthless endless eight episodes, just my opinion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:08 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They use the same translations as the US Bandai releases for all episodes.
    Also, they include the dub too.

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    Comment by Ciscotaku
    22:01 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    for $455 i rather either to wait for a US release of the blueray ver. or stick to the dvds and put them in an upscale dvd player.

    Comment by Anonymous

    :O THE CHARACTER THAT YURIPPE LOOKS LIKE <3

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:57 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haruhi copied Yurippe am confirmed :P

    Comment by flood
    16:44 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon 4:57
    What you said was blatantly stupid, correcting you would just be a waste of time and energy.

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    Comment by Charles Martel
    19:40 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huge difference in quality but also in price, 350€/450$ is a lot. I'm not even considering buying at that price...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:07 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's high quality Desho Desho?

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    Comment by Evie
    19:44 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yay, if I buy this, I can torture my brother with Endless Eight in HD.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    20:05 26/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Nice, Endless Eight in HD.

    Imma go sleep and wake up 2weeks ago again now kthx.

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    Comment by Megidola
    21:25 26/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    The advertising slogan will be-

    "It looks so good you'll want to watch the same episode 8 times- and now you can!"

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    22:57 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "... -and now you can, FOREVER!" *fixed

    Avatar of Megidola
    Comment by Megidola
    23:53 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Sounds like the punishment for the producers in the afterlife.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:48 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let me get this straight, so png files don't mess with the quality of a picture but jpeg does?

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    Comment by Charles Martel
    19:55 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Less compression for PNG, results in an image bigger in size but of better quality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:56 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Yes, that how it work

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yes. Gotta hate those dead pixels!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yup. Jpeg files sometimes get those annoying dead pixels. PNG FTW!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:01 26/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    jpeg is a lossy compression format, so u lose some details on the image.

    png on the other hand. kept 100% of the information on the image, so you get as good as the bmp, except it is much smaller than bmp.

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    Comment by alidan

    its like mp3 and flac.

    but lets be 100% honest, png for a color image is almost never necessary, unless its a vector, in that case its actually a higher quality image, and smaller file size than the equivilant jpg.

    now that said, with jpeg, and people who konw how to use it, its the difference between a 200kb file, and a 2+mb png, and visually they are within 95% the same of each other,

    Comment by Tenno Seremel
    22:21 26/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Then you start editing. This is Internet, right? Everything goes downhill with JPEGs.

    Comment by Kudi
    02:42 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    >its like mp3 and flac.

    No it isn't. The difference between png and jpg is often easily visible, even in kinds of image that are well-suited to jpg compression. You don't need a $10,000 monitor and 20/1 vision to see it.

    Never mind that the large blocks of the same colour mean that png can losslessly compress anime screenshots quite well...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:11 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The difference between JPEG and PNG is more visible with anime because of the sharp lines. If it were a normal TV show or movie it wouldn't really matter.

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    Comment by alidan
    16:55 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    shoganai
    02:42

    you don't need 10000$ headphones to hear the difference between flac and mp3 either, you need a well recorded song.

    Tenno Seremel
    22:21

    i believe its common knowledge not to edit an edit of an edit. but i give people to much credit allot of the time.

    Anonymous
    11:11

    not exactly. like i said, its about 95% the same, you will notice a difference, but it has far more to do with how the anime was recorded and how well it was screenshotted than anything else. let me give an example.

    you go a tv anime broadcast, sd, hd, and make the screenshots, just the errors that pop up in broadcasting alone are more noticeable than a well done jpeg. and than you have to consider if the anime is just an upscale hd, or if its actually an hd, im finding allot of hd anime isn't shown in hd, im assuming its the new marketing ploy.

    but if you have a bluray, that is easily more noticeable than the non.

    here as an experiment i saved the png of the last image, and in paint, not photoshop, just paint, saved it as a jpg, and between the two i cant tell the difference, however one file is 2330kb, and the other is 131kb

    the only merit to having a png is if you use it constantly in editing, or if you know how to manipulate a png and can compress the image to a lesser size than a jpeg, which with manga, you can easily do.

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    Comment by ayu
    19:29 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    -facepalm-

    png is better for images with solid colors or with pixels with similar colors.

    PNG format is a lossless compression and encodes pixels according to what is around it, which is why a picture with solid-color shapes is better made with png than with JPEG.

    JPEG is a lossy compression well suited for photographs.

    also if you can't tell the difference with the macro-blocking when viewed at 100% scale that JPEG introduces, especially with a very clear image source or vector-sourced images *facepalm*

    Comment by Tenno Seremel
    20:22 27/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @alidan

    That's why I said "This is Internet". No one will check it. Then 10 edits/peoples later it looks horrible.

    Besides, PNG allows you to edit any time, if you have only JPEG you are out of luck. Or you save both JPEG and PNG which is kinda redundant.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:02 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yup~ but at the cost of bigger file sizes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:08 26/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yup.

    .jpg compression takes averages of some areas of an image and just saves "close tp this" to save space. It's referred to as "lossy" compression. If you save a complex image as .jpg with the compression at maximum, then open it back up and zoom in, you'll see grainy "artifacts" surrounding areas with high contrast like solid lines.

    The concept is sort of like the way .mp3 files compress sound by "trimming" the bits the average person's hearing won't be able to detect anyways. In both cases, re-re-re-encoding the same data at maximum compression can turn it into nothing but static.

    For images, .png compression doesn'r throw data away, so tge files might end up bigger, but they are always sharper and better quality. The audio equivalent of .jpg vs .png is .mp3 vs .flac files.

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