William Gibson, the author who kick-started the cyberpunk genre and popularised the notion of a virtual idol, is singularly unimpressed by Hatsune Miku it seems.
What Gibson’s twittering about her “rez” is all about is less than clear, but that he is not enamoured by her is clear enough:
Hatsune Miku doesn’t really rock me. I want higher rez, less anime.
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So Hatsune Miku involves some sort of ongoing crowd-sourced evolution?
His followers also seem less than enthused by the world’s leading virtual idol:
From what I understand she will change as the trends change, the idea being an idoru that can never fall out of favor.
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Yeah, most of her songs are developed by fans, refined by the people at Crypton and then synched to her visuals.
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Think of her as a piano with a personality and a publisher – you get enough composers and some rise to the top.
Fortunately, the world’s media now seems to agree Miku is actually a hologram and not a virtual idol after all…
Japanese observers continued a discrete parallel conversation about his comments in Japanese, wondering just what the hell he was on about:
The great SF writer William Gibson has mentioned Hatsune Miku!
He seems pretty past it. We should explain to him about Miku at an SF con if we get the chance.
By “rez” he means “high rez,” right? He wants her in realistic 3D, not anime style? I’m sure Sega can help with that.
I suppose it would be a bit weird if Gibson praised her; though actually, when I met Crypton’s CEO in San Francisco he was wearing a Neuromancer T-shirt…
Well, it’s less about Miku herself and more about the spontaneous formation of a community of creators and fans around her image.
Also we have to do something about this idea that Miku is a holographic virtual idol which is spreading overseas. I think that coloured Gibson’s comments about her there.
“Doesn’t rock me” – I think we can safely translate that as “みくみくにされなかった”
Hiroyuki Itoh, Crypton’s CEO, chimes in:
So William Gibson tweeted about Hatsune Miku. I read Neuromancer 20 years ago!
When I think about it, it all seemed more futuristic back then. Now the real future is here, we have to be conscious of it. The feeling that the future’s not really living up to the hype kinda sucks.
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Who gives a fuck what Bill Gibson thinks, I think Philip K Dick and Ridley Scott did more for cyberpunk that Gibson ever did.
He's clearly only complaining about Miku's lack of visual detail clarity. Let's see him do a better job after going a standing stop to where Miku is in just a few years eh.
Writing a book is not the same as computer programming Dick. You should already know that.
i watched some vids on youtube about one of Mikus concerts. In my oppinion she could have had a better resolution on the screen. in my eyes she looked kinda misty, or blurry. (dont know how describe it proberly)
If that is his problem i definitely can understand him, but time will improve the grapics anyway so we just need to wait.
She was pretty low quality in the concert. But the concert was also not filmed in great quality either.
he clearly mention that he doesn't want miku being in anime style, he prefer rez or whatever it is called i don't really care. well, his opinion doesn't matter thought, who the hell want this fucking rez, i prefer anime style you shithead. if you want to be rocked, then i'll gladly throw rock at you as long as you want. if he want the realistic one why don't he go grab someone in RL, that will be very-very-very realistic compare to the imaginative one being in 3D. JUST GO TO HELL you dipshit
That "rocked" part of the comment just made my day and calmed my anger a bit about this too.
I agree with you about Gibson. But, you know, PKD wasn't really cyberpunk.
So he prefers Miku to have a more "3D" design (as in similar to those in post-FF10 character design.)
Looks creepy to me
I guess he'd like her to have a human like appearance. Well, too bad. ^_^
well, but others do not want it. one person's opinion doesn't really matter right. no matter how professional he is, all that matter is people would enjoy it or not.
Whats wrong with anime visuals? It looks great, sometimes even better than real life people. Not the detail, but they appear to how the artist want it to appear (which is as perfect as possible) so it looks better overall (in style anyways).
Translation: I spent years and decades doing shit and I didn't even managed to do any technologic conquests as quick as this green haired little girl did? Damnit!!
Translation: I spent years and decades writing novels about high-technology based on hard facts and technology of the age and somehow I managed to inspire some green-haired little girl with one of the most annoying voices in existence? Damnit!!
^^^^^^^^^
Fixed that for you, bro.
Vocaloid inspired by Gibson? Don't make me laugh. Come on, you can't actually believe this bullshit yourself.
He wasn't the first to work with the concept of a virtual idol by far, and none of the Vocaloids were ever meant to be virtual idols in the first place. It just happened by itself. It was a decentralized process and therefore not inspired by anything.
Annoying voices eh? Lol I find your wierd American english accent to be more annoying >.>
seeing all these comments that support Miku and against her...make me remember the scened in Oremo no Imouto, well its glad that we can share our opinion, but please... stop the bashing and stuff, we are all human that are free to express correct, but also sometime need to watch the words to be used^^,
On a side note, I am Hatsune Miku fan, I bought a 55 Singapore Dollar ticket just to see her 3 songs in AFAX 2010 concert, bought a 15 dollar magazine just for her poster with Rin,
people said I am weird, but people this is how I show my appreciation to Miku and those that make her popular as she is now today...
to those who judged me with cold eyes, I DONT CARE! I LIKE HER AND HER SONGS! So, HATERS, *middle finger*
Thats all, have a nice day^^
Finally someone with some sense in their mind. You like Miku, fine. I personally don't like her, which is also fine.
Can we now please go on?
Holy crusades are unstoppable. Internet is serious business.
lol true that itll be until william gibson dies when its done
If Miku's fans stop acting like rabid retards, there wouldn't be any bashing.
Well look who threw the first stone in the first place. If you Gibson fans stop acting so defensively innocent then there wouldn't need to be any arguing as well.
"Crap, some of her fans are acting like the Twilight kids when Stephen King ripped their little 'preciouses' a new asshole."
This. Thank you for wording it perfectly.
I sure hope you can back that accusation up.
I really didn't see it as stone-throwing.
He just doesn't like Miku. She isn't his cup of tea, so what? There are going to be some people who just don't like her, or even, not really care one way or another.
Crap, some of her fans are acting like the Twilight kids when Stephen King ripped their little 'preciouses' a new asshole.
Gibson who? Oh yeah, THAT William Gibson who wrote "The Sprawl Trilogy" which is the base of everything cyberpunk, including but not limited to Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed.
Imagine your favourite movie is getting an award.
is it wrong to talk about it passionately with others?
It's like that.. Vocaloid has never been this famous. So let us have some fun ok? No need to insult miku if you don't like it.
Do I give a fuck if Gibson doesn't like my lovely Miku?
umm... No?
he want to be rocked, or maybe he's gay
There will always be those who play down just how epic Miku. I'm guessing he wants her more like the idol in Macross. To be honest though, it she was like that, I doubt she'd be as popular. That's just me though.
like the French TV show.
Willaim Gibson can suck mah jewish dick, miku~.
You can't say something like that about Miku.. she's like.. awesome.. Even if she has no real body, or anything. She lives in my heart! and that's what really matters. QuQ
William Gibson? Aah!! Ano hito ka??? ...Dare dakke? Maa ii ka. Po Pi Po Pi Po~
This isn't totally surprising. For one thing, Gibson is infamously out of touch with technology, and it took him forever to even get away from using a typewriter and fax machine and actually embrace the Internet. He's not really into Japanese culture, but will visit Japan for a few weeks for a dose of the weirdness of the "mirror world" and more inspirations for his books.
I'm pretty sure his idea for the titular "Idoru" came from the now long forgotten virtual idol, DK-96, who looked like she was modeled after a human (3D model), and voiced directly by an actual singer.
Now, he's not even a sci-fi author. At least at "Pattern Recognition" where I stalled on actually reading his books. It's like he's always written about the early 21st century, but now it's not fiction, so he just writes about normal people. The bridge trilogy ("Idoru," etc) was very thinly cyberpunk, but mostly contemporary.
I guess what I'm saying is... Yeah, there's no reason to expect he'd be hip to something strange and synthetic like Miku. He's not any kind of otaku and is even known for being out of touch. He just has a good feel for how a technology will be practically used over time, and for what emotional connections people will make to curios and nicknacks.
I used to be his fan, but now he crossed the line!
*throws all her gibson books away*
Don't throw them away give it to me and i'll use them as toilet paper.
Burn them and post the pictures on the Internet in true otaku fashion. Become that which you hate.
You're a moron.
You can kill yourself too with miku :] .
Miku cant die :P
BLASPHEMY she will conquer the world no matter wut u say
"William Gibson Not Impressed by Hatsune Miku"
- my first thought was: "who to hell is William Gibson ?"
Gibson, the game, you lost it...
(for the guys who don't know why we are talking about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru)
I seriously thought he's a music critic.
He shouldn't be impressed by Miku. No matter how you look at Miku, there's still plenty of room for development. While I like the design a lot (I like contemporary anime character design anyway), the actual singing leaves much to be desired. I have yet to hear a Hatsune song that didn't sound highly artificial in a negative way. Maybe in 10 years Gibson will change his opinion, proving it's not just prejudice.
No one said it was perfect. Anyway most of the works are made by everyday people, I have yet to see an expert make a song yet. But the "World is Mine" song is a lot better than most of our pop music "singers" (they are horrible at singing, the talented singers I know are all underground).
I can list them but you know who they are.
I like the songs in Miku's voice, what else matters?
If she is making the songs herself? I could care less.
If she is constant in her looks and doesn't follow trends? So they adapt Miku to what is popular, if I like it I like it, else I'll just listen to her earlier stuff.
If this Gibson person doesn't like it, why doesn't he make an idol himself.
William Gibson is a graphics whore <_<
He's more likely just 'surprised' by new ideas.
Either he'll fathom it eventually(I doubt this) or he'll keep his ego higher at all times.
WHAT THE HELL IS 'REZ'!?
"WHAT THE HELL IS 'REZ'!?"
- he tried to be cool and epic failed - he prob. meant hi-resolution 3D CGI
surprised by "new ideas"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idoru
"(...)a synthetic personality named Rei Toei, the Idoru (Japanese Idol) "
If he's suprised at all, is probably because is already here, not because is a new idea; he already had that idea xD
He doesn't like Miku simply because she isn't like what he expected when he created Rei Toei. Goes to tell something about his ego.
@Rashid: I wonder who really is the close minded one here if you think your image of Miku fans is in any way universal. Given the amount of expertise in various fields (theory of music, signal processing, production techniques...) it takes to make good music with Vocaloid I'd say you're pretty far off.
@Shivann
It's really far fetched to credit the invention of virtual idols to him. From the top of my head there's Macross that featured one two years before Idoru, but I'm sure there are a lot more examples, in western literature too.
Probably because we aren't posting to feed the trolls like yourself.
I have vocaloid here. The point is not become obsessed/fanatic with it.
I can understand there could be a lot of intelligent fans of miku, but reading this comments is hard to spot one or two.
dont try to enlight to the fans they will never hear you in the same way they never read a book and just clap their hands for miku.
Probably this mean having character design similar to those in FF7 Advent Children... though I could be wrong
Weird that would be...
They can put it at twice current HD resolution and she'd still look the same. What he oughtta ask is a complete remodel/design.
As much as I want her to look a BIT more human, I guess most otakus prefer her with big eyes and puny mouth.
Lol Miku IS a character designed like anime characters.
Make her look more human? More like Lady Gaga or Britney Spears? Oh god, please no. No no no. Stay original and keep on looking better than the sad excuse we have for "pop idols" *shudder*