PS3 Hacked (Again)

Pretty much yea. They put up a good fight keeping this out for as long as they did but once the avalanche is started it ain't stopping till its hit the bottom. PS3 town is at the bottom of the hill too so the avalanche is really gonna hurt.

Not quite, the longer they can prevent it being widespread, the more money they make for themselves and their developers (the important ones). It's reasonable for them to give it the old college try for the sake of the devs at least. They're the ones who get screwed through piracy, not the publishers. Publishers get all the money and then can say 'oh well, not selling' and shut down the devs while getting whatever sales there are. It's a simplification, but that's basically how it works.

It won't change all that much. Xbox is long hacked and the games still sell.

It's not like all pirates would buy the games they leech. Probably less than 1% would.

If Sony put as much effort to an enjoyable experience as they did anti piracy their efforts would have paid off more.

A lot of people may have purchased the Xbox instead simply because it can play backups.

As for those who do pirate and those who do not it's very rarely if ever black and white.

Most are people who play backups or pirate some of the games but still end up buying many of them.

I know people who pirated the fuck out of the 360 and Wii and they usually have two consoles one chipped and one unchipped.

They did still sometimes buy games.

The less than 1% thought about pirates buying the games is completely false. The assertion by certain companies that they would translate 1:1 for sales is also false, but the 1% thing is just as made up a statement for pirates to feel better about stealing games.

I am in the games industry and have seen both sides on several occasions. Trust me, some of the sales would exist without the piracy. It's also true that in rare cases piracy leads to sales as well, I'll acknowledge it, but I'm sick of people making up lies about how piracy isn't affecting things negatively.

It is negative for the industry, sure, but it's nowhere near the numbers they like to toss around. Copyright is completely out of date and there have to be regulations which lessen both extremes, piracy getting out of hand AND sueing a random schmuck for millions, just because of revenge and "making an example".

Doesn't it strike you as strange that there's still a certain equilibrium between people who buy games and those that merely download them illegally? If we take the industries projections for granted then it does seem weird that there are still people who actually buy games. You'd think that every single person with internet access would just pirate stuff left and right. Yet, that's just not the case.
If something is good and worthwhile, it will be bought. Piracy will never vanish anyway.
As a guy "in the industry" you should be fully aware of that.

As I said, I acknowledge both sides, and the reality is very much more complex, as I acknowledged. I wasn't getting into the legal dance of piracy and its affect, what I am sick of is the platitudes that are spouted by people in defense of piracy as if they're Robin Hood. That was what my comment was about.

The negative affects I'm talking about go far beyond sales as well, but that's a much longer point to make. What truly scares me is not us 20 and 30-somethings who grew up with the internet and have a 'code of conduct' about piracy and downloads in some form, it's the new generations that scare me if they can say 'oh just download it' without the upbringing we had in a world where everything wasn't a click away to steal it. The problem is that the companies can't adjust to the piracy BECAUSE of the piracy and the simultaneous demand for obscenely expensive and detailed games. The risks in making a shift can easily decimate anyone but EA, who makes too much to care anyway.

i put this in another post (didnt realise it was a post from 2009 :P).

the damage piracy makes in the idustry is overstated, so to distract from what really hurts it the industry.
Meaning:
Publishers (usually they take 70-80 % of the profits)
Stupid graphics levels (in itself not a bad thing but when you spend millions in that aspect alone ignoring the rest like gameplay of bug testing, its stupid)
Oversaturation of shitty copys of good games (for every call of duty 4 (just an example) we have 20 shitty "realism" shooter (haze, call of duty MW2, etc..),
Really short games with absurd prices (60 dollars for 6 hours and no replay value no thanks)
DRM, millions to make really intrusive DRM that screws more the paying customers than the pirates (this is specially true in pc).

also piracy is the developers easy way out when a game floped badly, their games didnt flop because its crappy gameplay, game breaking bugs, shitty story, etc.. it floped because of piracy

You are correct, but that too is missing another major aspect that the shitty copies of the good games are caused by the piracy to begin with. Few companies will take risks anymore because of this, since the profit is too uncertain these days based on the state of the industry. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The clones were made because those games actually sold, and the simple truth is management will not allow anything too extensive because they want a quick return because there's no guarantee it will sell even if it is a good idea. Investment in risky ideas is at an all time low for many reasons, some obvious, some not so obvious.

Now above and beyond all of this, things are changing one way or the other. It's very difficult to read how much of the change is cause, and how much of it is effect.

i think the shitty copys its more because of how costly games have became, its a really investment to make a game (if you want it to have top line graphic (which in the minds of the directors, its what it sells)) that to take such a chance its a big risk, so they prefer to play it safe making ripoff of games that sold well with little to no inovation, so not to scare people.

gamers here play a big part, if they stop buying shitty ripoff and actually started to buy games that take chances and defys standar conceptions of video games, the industry can improve, if not well lets enjoy call of duty 90000, and its ripoff "call of honor 90000"

i see shitty rippoff, more because of how the industry sees gamers and their needs, they see now that gamers only what "photo realistic, brown spectrum graphics", and that type cost a lot of money, so instead of taking chances making a good nonripoff game, they make call of honor 2999, with little or non improvement or change, not realising than that doesnt guaranty a success, so when the game flop, they blame piracy, and the next time take even less risks.

gamers here play a big part of this, instead of buying the same game over and over and over again, they could buy and support new ip with differents game types. If you buy only fps the industry will only make fps.

LOL, I absolutely LOVE how mad the writers are in this post. They have yet again been proven wrong. Earlier this year they praaaaaaaised the cr@p out of Sony for having an unhackable device, and now they yet again are saying negative things about these hacks.

SINCE WHEN was a hacked to be boo'ed?? I don't get this at all, this is the exact same thing as say ooohh I love my iPod Touch but being able to fully customize it and being able to control what it does is just HORRIBLE.

To these authors I just have 1 thing to say:

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL

You again tried to get in Sony's good graces but what you should be doing is just doing the news, this is a GOOD thing not a horrible thing! Now the customization and new home brewing can begin; its just like being able to unlock the PSP when it didnt have a browser, to let it have one. IMAGINE the possibilities of this hardware being used for things OTHER than gaming :D

ha... i though the 9:24 message was lost and didnt show, so i rewrite it, guess i was wrong.

Stop acknowledging both sides, and pick one, you wishy-washy prat.

I side with the pirates, and will do so until the game companies lower their prices to affordable levels, and bring games back to the effort and quality of the golden age.

I shall continue to support leeching EA games until they stop cheating people by releasing the same bloody football game every year.

I shall continue supporting the piracy of Square and Capcom, until they start to treat their old series with respect and stop using well-known names as bully pulpits to launch their experimental bullshit. The next Final Fantasy or Breath of Fire had better be traditional RPGs with massive world maps, at least 20 dungeons to explore, and the kind of awesome music that they had in the 90s. In other words, no more Dragon Quarter and

The same goes for Bethesda and Bioware, until they make a decent RPG again. Actually, for all the lousy ones they have been making lately, I want to see a spectacular one...one that will make Morrowind look like Doctor Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde for the NES. The next elder scrolls game, for instance, had better be more like Morrowind and less like Oblivion.

HouseLife, if you think that the lapse in quality is caused by piracy, then you, sir, are a fucking idiot.

Bloody hell it logged me out and didn't bother to tell me. I am the one that just said "if you think that the lapse in quality is caused by piracy, then you, sir, are a fucking idiot."

and I WILL say it to your face if it can be arranged, just so you know.