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Bleach creator Tite Kubo has courted controversy (and a significant amount of agreement) by saying the characters in bishoujo anime are all but indistinguishable to the novice eye, apparently singling out season favourite Ore no Imouto for particular mention.

His comments about late-night anime (i.e. virtually anything other than One Piece, Naruto and Bleach, or less charitably, the 95% of anime series which only 1% of viewers actually watch) come via a series of Tweets:

For once I tried watching some late night anime, but I couldn’t tell any of the characters apart at all. Maybe if you watch a lot of this stuff you can tell them apart.

[…]

It’s even harder to tell them apart in the anime packed with bishonen than it is with the anime overflowing with bishoujo… maybe it’s because I’m a guy.

[…]

I’m surprised you’d watch that stuff. What the hell were you watching?

I’m surprised myself. I don’t know the titles of what I was watching, something with an anime otaku girl heroine, and something with some Shinsengumi who looked like hosts fighting guys with topknots.

Whilst few would deny today’s moe anime are locked in the advanced stages of creative enervation, some would say those in glasshouses should not throw stones:

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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:29 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I hear the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Comment by motaku96
    05:27 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Haha, good comeback.
    Kubo, you disappoint me. I had hoped that the one creating the shonen wasn't just a shonen fanboy himself. But I guess that's expecting too much.

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    10:33 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know, he really needs to pick up some notes from Kentaro Miura, a mangaka who did one of the most badass manga in history yet isn't bias yet won't deny that moe can grasp his soul to the abyss of addictiveness.

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    Comment by Sukunai
    05:27 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Damn near all chocolate tastes the same, but I still manage to enjoy it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:50 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Dude, then you never tasted some quality chocolate. Makes the rest taste like crap and pretty much inedible afterwards...

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:27 09/09/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, they don't even all taste like chocolate.

    White chocolate tastes like something else altogether.

    Family milk chocolate tastes like toothpaste and it's really awful. It's supposed to be a lower quality of milk chocolate (my favorite), mostly for brandless products. But really, who are they kidding ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:26 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Moé-Fans: "You Can't Tell All These White Backgrounds Apart At All!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:08 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    well kubo, all your backgrounds look the same.
    now what?

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    Comment by Schrobby
    06:51 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.5)

    Nah, he uses a different white for each background. ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:14 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    also later on, ichigo, ishida, byakura and all other male characters look the same but with different hair

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:24 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    How about he learn how to draw a background before he complains about other people's art.

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    Comment by Rbto
    04:55 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    so, he dont like moe?

    05:01 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.5)

    He just missing out then. :)

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    Comment by Schrobby
    05:06 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Who actually cares about his dislikes? ^_^

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    Comment by Megidola
    06:28 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    Battle-> Power-up->
    Battle-> Power-up->
    Battle-> Power-up->
    Battle-> Power-up->
    Battle-> Power-up->
    Complain about other series's lack of originality

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    Comment by VillainousHanacha
    07:15 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Tite Kubo, of all people, is complaining about originality!?

    Post Soul Society (expecialy in Fake Karakura and Decide) Bleach has been nothing more than a collection of every Shonen cliche in the book. And it's not even played off well!

    The only reason I still read Bleach is out of obligation. I spent so long reading it before, that I feel like if I was to quit it now, all that time reading it prior would have been wasted.

    But yeah, I'm not going to listen to criticism from the asspulling Plotkai master himself. No one does Deus Ex Machina like Kubo

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:48 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    At least they aren't copying each other. No wait, Tracing Each Other. No, Touching Each Other. No...

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    Comment by Marine-RX179
    05:40 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I think the feeling is mutual. People probably can't tell the differences between the different chapters of Bleach...

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    Comment by Schrobby
    05:21 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    You sound like Mother Teresa. ^_^

    Comment by 666
    05:18 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I care. I care for all people. :D

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    Comment by billanator
    06:34 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    @SOTER You lie!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:25 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    The manga and the anime are totally different you idiots.

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    Comment by Canadane
    05:16 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    He does.
    I doubt anyone here does.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:22 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Naw, he should totally get some help from Nick Simmons. That guy knows how to draw!

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    Comment by Chen-04
    06:12 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    "developing Bleach from the craptastic dunghole it's been for over a year."

    You mean for over FOUR years, don't you?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:30 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    He should stop trolling late night anime and spend some actual brain cells on developing Bleach from the craptastic dunghole it's been for over a year.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:54 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    megidola is right Bleach=horrible loop anime.
    After the save Rukia arc it all went to poo.
    I hear the mangas good but you'll never see me watching another ep of Bleach.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:59 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    So... I don't think people can use the plot in Bleach to get back at him.

    I mean, SERIOUSLY, was there any plot in K-on!...? No, you shouldn't even have to reply to this one...

    However, if a show with messed up/no plot gets better or worse by containing moe characters can be debated.

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    Comment by alidan
    09:37 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Anonymous
    05:59

    bleach is a fighting shonen manga that had a plot the whole show, but after ss they took the plot and ran it into the ground, and than grabbed it by the hair and repeatedly rammed its face into the ground.

    k-on was a slice of life that revolved around girls who started a school club for their band.

    if you can stand slice of life, and non drama infused plots with no fighting, than k-on was as close to a masterpiece in its genre that you can get. the same cant be said about bleach, who after the ss arc, well... i honestly cant think of something that dropped the ball that badly before.

    Anonymous
    06:26

    not exactly. its more a moe made by the same studio is kind of coppy paste change hair and eye colors. you can mostly tell who made what moe anime based on the animation style.

    Anonymous
    06:38

    not exactly. some times there is a rock bottem moment in almost any long shonen battle fest, where the main character basicly loses everything, that happens randomly.

    and with "moe" anime, what ever the fuck that means any more, it is a formula, but the difference is in the events themselves. there are standard ones, but than there are the ones that are anything but standard. the events and the way they are made make or break a moe from same shit, to maybe watch.

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    Comment by blubee
    09:49 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @megidola 07:16 That may be true but look at Avatar and Dances with Wolves or Pocahontas or any other similar movie. It's all the same story but they were all good movies.

    My point is, at least the battle -> power up cycle invites more originality than the exact same situations with the exact same characters in the exact same settings, which is all unrelated to the plot (or lack thereof). I mean, the typical wussy-guy-falls-on-top-of-girl-and grabs-her-boob-by-accident scenario is so overdone as to be an eyeroller. Same for guy-bumps-into-girl-and-accidentally-sees-her-panties-and-gets-pawnched-in-the-face. And need I remind you this all happens in a school hallway or in the classroom.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:46 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "So... I don't think people can use the plot in Bleach to get back at him.

    I mean, SERIOUSLY, was there any plot in K-on!...? No, you shouldn't even have to reply to this one..."

    dude, k-on and bleach have different genres...
    a slice of life anime doesn't have plot at all, or not that much

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:54 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    AIZEN DIDN'T ACTUALLY DIE.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:40 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    missing out on what diamond, eternal virginity?

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    Comment by alidan
    15:38 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    OhYeah
    12:18

    never even thought of that, and 50 chapters is what, 15-25 episodes depending on how you stretch it?

    hell, something like k-on may not have an over all plot, but it still goes faster than that.

    now onto everyone else who says k-on doesnt have a plot.
    and lets be clear here, k-on doesn't have a "the world will end if we don't **********" or "she will die unless **************" plot but it has episodic plots, that can be interesting if you are able to watch the show.

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    Comment by Craig Jones
    19:54 19/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bleach has always been derivative from the get-go. The ruffian -> ghost police with girl reaper partner premise is from Yu Yu Hakusho, Orihime and her brother are from Ushio and Tora, and so on. Then it got worse and started copying itself. Two guys from another world nab a girl, Ichigo trains and gets a team to rescue her. Everything that plays out, like forbidden techniques that cost the user's powers, are recycled. Using truckloads of bland, cloned bishounen.

    Instead of having fight scenes like DBZ, though, Bleach spends 15 large, empty panels on single sentence word balloons for every panel of something happening... then has half the fights take place off screen. The manga moves at the DBZ anime's pace, just with less variety and payoff. Saying Bleach is like DBZ is a horrible insult to all generic shounen fighting series.

    ...but that's also why we love it. Bleach has always been a hilarious train wreck that gets worse any time anything happens, like Twilight. The serious defenders have got to be trolls, but that's no reason not to enjoy the series. You really can't top gems like Kubo complaining about interchangeable bishounen.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:20 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Aizen will most likely be back after 200 more chapters...as a good guy...

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    Comment by Crim
    09:14 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What he is saying is that these characters these days dont have wild enough hair styles

    Yugioh hair please

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    Comment by Megidola
    07:16 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 06:38 does it really matter if the characters and settings are changed when it's still essentially the same thing happening?

    For example, The Magnificent Seven is still considered a remake of Seven Samurai despite being set in the American west not Japan, because it's basically the same story.

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    Comment by Lonesnipa
    07:05 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm still willing to give bleach a chance to redeem itself. Although, it is down to one chance for me at this point. Which is what naruto is down to for me. Kinda sad that. My main issue with bleach right now, is that NOTHING IS HAPPENING. Don't try and tell me otherwise either. We've barely learned anything in what, 4 chapters? About what is happening next. Seriously, that is retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:30 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    anon @6:38
    So avatar had a "new" plot because it wasn't based in north america? Hurp de durp

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    Comment by OhYeah
    13:40 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bleach failed to be entertaining after volume 9.

    The matter of practicing what you preach is important here as Kubo doesn't follow his own credo. Everything character he has drawn thus far have notably similar faces to the point where all you need to do to make a new character is to swap their hair. What's really amazing is how he is still up there as one of the big three.

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    Comment by OhYeah
    12:18 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, Bleach died right after the first 9 volumes. I actually enjoyed it up until the point it became another power beatdown shitfest.

    Given its priorities, moe pretty much beats it out in terms of quality simply because it does not spend 50 something chapters getting 1 fight over with.

    Also, if you notice Kubo's penmanship, he doesn't actually practice what he preaches. If you remove the hair and extra features, you'll see that a lot of his characters all share very similar facial structures unless they are the more unique ones (like Gin Ichimaru).

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    Comment by makkun
    10:58 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Oh, what's with all these characters? I can't even tell them apart because of their characteristic similarities."

    "Oh what's with all those shounen anime/manga? I can't even tell them apart because of their plot similarities?"

    And many others.

    Comment by Anonymous

    He's right. That moecrap has totally exchangable characters without any depth at all.

    It's just a copy of a copy of a copy ad infinitum...

    Meh...

    Comment by Anonymous

    That plot is already over since a month and it has been awesome, STFU and GTFO.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @ 06:26
    That's called bad writing. Moe or not, bad writing never changes.

    Comment by Anonymous

    not really look:

    Battle-> Power-up->

    different characters in a different setting for a different reason Battle-> Power-up->
    repeat

    while ALL moe/harem blobs are:

    Boy+group of girls-> identical events in every moe/harem occur here-> boy+ 1 girl

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    Comment by Kwonnie

    Bleach may have been in a slump since after the Soul Society arc, but who cares, son? it's Tite Kubo

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/photo/219235-TiteKubo.jpg

    Deal wit' it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:29 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    anyone else notice that he's searching anywhere for story ideas. he's in desperation mode. he's already copied up to the majin buu arc so he's actually running out of akira toriyama ideas, thus he started with the late night anime.

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    Comment by ayu
    01:21 16/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dragonball Z
    Naruto
    Bleach

    spiked yellow-haired protagonists spanning millions of hours doesn't sound overdone to him.

    public void formula(){
    do{
    fight();
    if(battle_win==false) improve();
    }while(win_hours++)
    }

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    Comment by gau
    05:02 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.5)

    maybe he;s into g*ys ??

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    Comment by obro
    05:56 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    To much BACKGROUND for him to tell the difference

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:14 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.8)

    That's not it, I'm sure he'd understand it just fine if they'd just stretched the first episode of oreimo to the length of 52 episodes or 10 volumes of manga.

    He's just having trouble with the plot moving at a speed greater that of a half-dead snail.

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    Comment by ayu
    01:24 16/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure he can tell the difference between DBZ's Goku, Naruto, and that spikey- and yellow-haired dude in Bleach.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Because Goku and Naruto look so similar, right? >_>

    Also, what yellow-haired dude? You mean Ichigo? Cause he has orange hair. >__>

    05:08 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.3)

    Yaoi will fit his taste then. :3

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    Comment by YakomoFujikawa
    05:21 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Yoooo WTF......YOOOOOOO and they got in the muthafucking card and I was like YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Good times :3

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    Comment by TehBoringOne
    06:40 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    "like futanari only with DFC and loli/shota characters"

    Nah... Why go for a substitute when the original is already there?

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    Comment by Chen-04
    06:29 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Hey... easy. I love Boku no Piko. It's like the best h-anime I ever watched. And I watched hundreds of them. Give it a try, you would be impressed!

    It's hot trapsex, so you don't need to feel gay about it. It's like futanari only with DFC and loli/shota characters. hm... boku no pico... excuse me, I've got an awesome h-anime to rewatch.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    05:11 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I bet he loves Boku no Pico, Yooooo! ^_^

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    Comment by Isekaijin
    05:23 15/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    YOOOOOOO. THREE NIGGAS, THREEEEEEEEEE!!!

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    Comment by Chen-04
    07:19 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Only to make people feel less gay about it. Well, I'm gay for bridget, but that's besides the point, or is it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:06 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah that would explain most of the interaction's between some of the guys in bleach lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:15 15/11/2010 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    maybe he's into nabokov.

    Comment by 666
    05:20 15/11/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Don't mess with Lolita.

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    Comment by ayu
    01:14 16/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you want some 'Vlad' spilled?

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    Comment by Wisteria Berlitz
    09:27 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never mess with Lolita

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:01 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Tite Kubo: Troll moefags, draw milfs.

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    Comment by OhYeah
    13:46 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    He actually has loads of moe-blobs. He just doesn't call it moe. I mean Orihime is all about Moe (and doesn't contribute to the story much) so we pretty much have bait right there. But noo... he's too deep for us...

    The minute the soul society arc began it was all downhill.

    By the way, does anyone even notice that all of his characters have the same face?

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    16:14 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So he has beef with Hakuouki? But that series has a pretty varied look for its main characters. Not TOO different from shonen fare.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:39 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Im the opposite, i hate bishonen animes like bleach, naruto, one piece etc, endless length of bullcrap the series never ends. Moreover, im not gay to drool over some bishonen character, and girls in bishonen animes are unattractive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:11 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the fuck am I reading? I have to admit its been a while since I read bleach but I don't remember the characters being bishonen at all. Or Naruto and One Piece for that matter. Do you even know what the fucking term means?

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:23 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    one piece = bishounen

    You've made my day, Anon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:01 16/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    your thinking shonen not bishonen bishonen is more like vampire knight and dont beef with one piece man was a sad day when bon clay sacrificed himself. the same way it was a sad day when kamina died...........

    tbh u shud be drooling over bishoujo and bishonen anime as they are made to be drool worthy hence being called bi which is the reading for the kanji of beauty in compound kanjis.

    also kubo shud just do a spin off with the big titted hoes in bleach and make a moe anime from tht

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    Comment by Unlimitedbladeworks
    14:47 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ROFL Kubo complaining about unoriginal characters... THAT's a laugh!

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    Comment by Renzo
    18:21 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What differs a high quality moe(blob) Anime is their unique characteristic in-anime, unlike the prolonged Bleach and stereotypical hero vs villain arc which hero gets stronger, there's enemy stronger and the vicious circle repeats itself

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:13 16/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Season favorite is BULLSHIT by both ratings and places outside of this "near 4 chan type of shit" that sankaku has become..

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    Comment by Lurkerman
    13:57 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ... duh? dude doesn't make money off of moe, what reason would he have to like it? It's just his way of making his brand of anime sound "better" than his competition. Seriously, I'd pull off a more long winded response that would be summed up with the glass houses statement above, but honestly, I don't feel like feeding the worlds biggest troll. Besides, srsly? do people who argue "this is bland and overused" NEVER read tvtropes? Cuz after reading too much of that site, I have to say that the "this is overused" argument just doesn't hold up anymore. Really, everything is overused at this point, You just normally don't notice it. On a side note, crap this is a long winded response! FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu

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    Comment by Abel Liegod
    09:55 15/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one gives a fuck about you Tits Kubo, just finish Bleach already!

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ha! This whole post and comments are filled with butthurt MOEFAGS.

    Stupid moefags.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I can barely tell between the 6-7 big tittied bitches he has in bleach.











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