Sony Still Losers After All


Game developer Tose’s proclamation that the PS3 had finally taken the lead in the current generation’s console war has proven false, and the company has issued a grovelling retraction.

Their apology is suitably humble:

“At KYOTO CMEX 2010 our CEO presented a lecture entitled “The 30 year history of gaming.” However, there were errors in the data used and we offer our humble apologies for the inconvenience caused.”

Famitsu for their part quietly deleted the offending slides, although it stops short of actually apologising (although in all fairness, it did not endorse their accuracy, only publish photographs of them in passing).

Tose refrain from providing any other numbers, but other sources show the Xbox 360 with a lead of several million units sold.

Recently published statistics have shown the PS3 managing to outsell the Xbox 360 by some measures, but not by enough to close the modest lead Microsoft still enjoys fully – leaving Sony still stuck in third place loser position.

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    Avatar of 美しい音
    Comment by 美しい音
    02:39 10/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Well, Sony builds top-quality-everything. Starting from gaming consoles, and bravia TVs, and ending with VAIO laptops, car audio, camcoders.
    Can't blame them for losing in one of the markets, as the "It's a Sony" argument would still pwn any of Microsoft's, Nintendo's, Apple's, or whatchamoneyhungry company slogans.

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    Comment by Megidola
    03:55 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    They're not really losing, the difference in total sales figures is negligible, and the 360 was on sale a year earlier than the Ps3.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    04:02 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Wait... since when is it PS3 and not PS2?

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    Comment by Schrobby
    09:09 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Since 4 years ago.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    16:43 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Strangely this number of years correlates with me discovering the magic that is called fansubs. The PS3 must majorly suck if I first discovered it's existence in some comment on sancom. Well.. they _aren't_ pretty creative with their naming. I mean.. nintendo at least manages to make their consoles sound different from each other.

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    Comment by Inkydog

    Negligible? More than 1 million units... $200+ per unit. At the very least more than $200,000,000. Not to mention if every person who bought one also bought one game. Lrn to math.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:13 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's negligible because you have to take into account both the one-year head start of 360 and the scale of it, in terms of two big companies competing a few million is not safe, PS3 can overtake the 360 should the situation turn that way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:25 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I think the only thing of interest for us gamers is the number of consoles in homes (since that affects the general sales of a title) and not what the company made off of those console sales.

    Taking into account the RROD replacement Xboxes that have befallen outside off warranty (and I knew a few people who have had to buy new ones) then PS3 might already have more units out in circulation that are functioning.
    But at the rate the sales are, we'll see the official announcement in a few months time probably.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I'm just going to assume your joking, sony used to be a premium brand, but that was a long time ago. Sony is now the same as apple, they rely on fans to push their product, not because it's actually good.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 10/11/2010 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    Sony ?? Quality ?? Ekhmmmm ... Maybe in early 90 ...

    02:37 10/11/2010 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    No surprise they mess up the data, guess the xbox fanboys will be happy.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    02:47 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    So they acknowledge the numbers were forged? I wonder what they were thinking using them in the first place. Did they really believe nobody would notice?

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    Comment by Renzo
    02:50 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    They actually notice it,, but not admit it, after all.. it's a Sony :)

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    03:27 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    It's a Sony.

    "make.believe" indeed.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    02:56 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Seems so, at least I have no other explanation why they didn't deliver the real numbers and are only apologizing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:19 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    What a tremendous victory for the xbox fandom. they get to be marginally ahead in sales for a few more months until PS3 surpasses them by a margin too wide for them to deny with any amount of crying.

    I'm sure this huge victory is worth their live fees(used to buy content a week faster than PS3, even though they still dont have valkenhayn) and lack of games

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    Comment by Crim
    10:22 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Many people already realized this

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:13 11/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    When are we going to see an article about how the ps1 has oh I don't know 3 times the sale of the shitbox 360? It's an ancient console, sup?

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    Comment by Noodlestein
    04:26 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Meh, could care less about numbers, as long as the consoles have games I want to play on them, I'm happy.

    Sure doesn't sound like you're a PS3 fanboy at all.
    No sir, not one bit.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Microsoft and the xbox still sucks ass, regardless how many xbot morons buy it. The xbox always has been and always will be a piece of shit. SONY FTW!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous

    It's a Sony.

    Comment by Anonymous

    lol ps3 fanboys are raging hard. What makes you think PS3 sales will ever catch up? PS3 hasnt been updated for 2 years now. Looks like sony is giving up on the console. I wouldnt be surprised if PS4 came out as an even bigger plastic brick of uselessness. $999.99 of course.

    Then again, fanboys can fight all they want with other fanboys, but despite all that I know for a fact every one of you is posting your bullshit on a PC. Btw anyone want to look up PC sales? No, you won't because you realize sales don't mean jack shit. Now just shut the fuck up and fap to loli schoolgirls or something.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @Noodlestein hardly, I've been gaming since atari 2600, I have no particular love for sony, I just hate xbox and its retarded fans shitting up gaming for everyone else, paying for online, paying for content to be delayed on other formats, paying for shitty DLC, what a tremendous bunch of retards

    Comment by Anonymous

    Agreed with Noodlestein. If the platform has the game I want then I don't give a damn what it's on.

    02:50 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    That's what all the pictures were for a distraction from the numbers.

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    Comment by fxc2
    03:13 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well the American way would've been something like: "The data calculation was so delicate that it's no big surprise other companies would think we had gotten it wrong." -An official statement stating so, but commenting naught on how everybody else's data shows different.

    Just sayin'.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ah Schrooby the one console who sell more than other consoles is the best it,s just a sell is that matter ?

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    Comment by Schrobby
    06:31 11/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Commercial point of view, yes. Wii is clearly the winner here.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Where do you get that they were "forged"? There's a difference between making a mistake, and forging something.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    06:34 11/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The real numbers are available everywhere > they deliberately used wrong numbers > forged statistics.

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    Comment by starsplash
    02:57 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Im going to sleep... but I believe, Ill be reading this post for a bit tomolo for entertainment

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:38 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    OMG WAKE UP YOU GOT TO READ THE Motto To Love-Ru Labia Spreading Anime POST!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:07 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Good Night.

    03:09 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Just let the man sleep already.

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    Comment by T.O.M. Morrow
    03:10 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't let the bedbugs bite! Sorry, couldn't help myself :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:07 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sleep Tight.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:09 13/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's no reason to be happy or sad.... None of this matters at all.

    Owning everything is far more sane.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ps3 is behind only because it wasn't hacked yet. Sony has yet to realise the benefits of sharing. And M$ should focus on the live service and let pirates be. Everybody wins. And ppl will still buy the originals they like.

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    Comment by gundam4ever2
    02:39 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.7)

    A third Of the XBox sold are probably replacements.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:50 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)


    My friends who own a PS3 have never had it fail them, their XBOX 360 however has.

    02:57 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Xbox did the right thing now by replacing the whole system with the Slim ver.

    04:12 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They did the same with kinect took out one of its GPU/CPU chip forgot which one. cheap bastards.

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    Comment by Anyien
    06:21 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Of course, the slim version actually died of overheating when it was placed beside another console.

    They also changed out the RROD with GDOD. So nothing have really changed with the slim version. It have actually just got worse.....

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:11 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @Anyien Everything you said is false.
    If you are referring to the picture and video posted here on Sankaku in a previous article, those specific instances were proven by other sources to be fake/staged. The slim version doesn't die of overheating. It automatically shuts down if it gets too hot.

    Are you color blind? If you would have paid attention to the pictures posted here on Sankaku you would realize THE DOT TURNS RED (confirmed by hundreds of news sites). It's RDoD NOT GDoD. The LEDs that light up the ring were replaced with single color LEDs, the dot in the center is still the same multicolor green/red LED.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    except they didn't include bumpers so now it's GUARANTEED to scratch your disc if you move your slim at an angle while the disk is being read.

    some cheap rubber bumpers could have prevented this but they opted to save a bit of money and not include them.

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    Comment by Bass
    02:56 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yes, because Microsoft is more eager to gain money by making 'defective' hardware and make people buy more.
    My 360 has already broke once.

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    Comment by Anyien
    06:01 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There is many who actually have to buy new consols instead of getting them for free even if the problem is M$ fault.

    But what M$ earns most on is the game sale. I don´t think they earn anything on the consoles right now.

    Maybe that´s why they started to sell HD and those things separate from the consoles itself, to actually earn some money.

    Sony also earned most on games and actually lost money on the consoles. But with better and cheaper components and the making of the slim version they are earning a tiny bit on each unit now.

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    Comment by TenguSan
    03:09 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    was about to point that out.

    also the disc scratching is something which shouldn't be there.

    the first xbox360s lacked any kind of fan and basically fried themselves...

    the xbox brand microphones usually fail and short within a month or so..

    they get away with the worst shit

    i know people who have gone through 3 xbox 360s, one went through 4.. >.>

    i am the only person on my friend's list who has yet to have to buy another one. just kept getting RROD and they would replace some parts with better ones for free (fan and disc reader were replaced once.. the outer casing was also replaced once). probably the only good thing about the whole deal

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    Comment by Schrobby
    05:07 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does M$ really make money by delivering defective products they have to replace sooner or later, maybe even multiple times? Not really.

    From what we know M$ and Sony don't earn anything with their consoles, probably even subsidize them. Replacing them just once in the period of warranty definitely gets them in the red.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:02 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually they could. Just matters how cheaply they make them and how high they price them. It could be that the RRP of an Xbox 360 is equivalent to manufacturing 2-3 of them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:13 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've had my 360 for a good 3 or 4 years. It's never failed me, but then again, I don't play it often.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    02:50 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Some are, sure, but lots of PS3s got sold as BluRay player or for parallel computing. In the end it evens itself out.

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    Comment by Spt
    03:33 10/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well no, there is no profit in replacements as the company just needs to send out a new one most off the time. So dont really understand how that can be compared to the fact that the PS3's has been sold as a blueray or parallel computing as this is still an profit for Sony. And if the user have actually bought a PS3 for being a blueray player it's most likely he will use this as a gaming console if there ever would be any intrest regarding games.

    But heeeey if you are only trying to compare regarding popularity I guess you could well even it out a little bit.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    05:02 10/11/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    It can be compared. Both M$ and Sony count shipped units, not sold units. That includes replacements as well as dead stock. Seems they both have something to hide.

    As long as they do that we can only guess and I see no reason to guess in one's favour.

    Comment by Anonymous

    PS2 still hasn't been dethroned.I think Sony is doing alright seeing as how they started out.Microsoft can go suck a big one seeing as I got red ring 3 times already.They expect me to keep buying a new one?At least I have a PS3 to play before I get a new one...

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