“Only a Confession From a Man Will Do, And Flowers Too!”

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80% of Japanese women agree that is only proper that the man confess his undying love to them and not them to he, whilst a near majority expected an accompanying token of his affection in the form of flowers or something shiny and precious.

The survey itself covered single employed Japanese women aged 21-34.

When asked “Do you want the man to make a confession of love to you? Or would you like to confess to him?” an overwhelming 77% of these women wanted the man to confess to them and only 2% would want to confess themselves.

Possibly this insistence on being asked out is the reason only 33% of women questioned reported being asked out in the last year.

When asked out, there appear to be a few aces prospective suitors can play – women asked “When he confesses his love to you, is there anything a man can give you which will make you unthinkingly answer ‘yes’?” gave a number of suggestions; 46% said a bouquet of flowers, 43% a ring, 28% “accessories,” 22% a necklace and 16% a watch.

The florist industry’s marketing efforts seem to have done their job; women asked about their preference for flowers gave such responses as “I’d be more concerned if he gave a gift which was too expensive” and “Because it conveys a sentiment mere money can’t express.”

In sum, for Japanese women at least it appears only a flower or ring wielding man asking them out on bended knee is the proper way to start a relationship – little wonder so many are single.

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  • I get that this survey is only asking if the women would [b]prefer[/b] to be asked out by men or ask out men but I find giving gifts to people just to have success confessing to them a bit outrageous…

    Yes, this survey’s results have made it easier to invest in this but I just don’t personally see myself giving a girl I am confessing to anything until I know she is the 1…

    That being said, I really need her to confess to me so that I can see her as someone who actually wants to be my companion, & if not, then as I am not confessing to any women ever…no harm done as I will simply stay single in that case which is just fine to me…

  • NOTE: Probably 70% of that 80% of women would say “Kimoi”, and think the guy is a weirdo if he confessed his love on one knee with a bouquet of flowers.

    If I have learned anything about women through my experiences, it is that they have no fucking clue what they want. Their likes, dislikes, and reasoning skills are completely dependent on what mood they are in that day.

  • @All of the dumbasses who think women are only interested in their wallets. That’s not true. Some of us just want a good cook… Yep. Those are my standards. Oh, and a nice ass doesn’t hurt either~

  • Well if asked whether I’d prefer a girl to ask me out, or if I’d rather ask her out, I’d say I want them to ask too. You feel more secure, there’s no risk, and it’s pretty flattering to boot.

    Anyway, I’d never be able to ask a girl out. Too much of a coward. I’m doomed to living my life as a lonely hermit.

    On the plus side, Takane just confessed to me in Love Plus. I am content.

  • the first time i confessed to a boy was in high school
    he told his whole class and soon the whole school knew
    then i had to endure a whole year of mocking and abusing untill he/his class finally graduated

    ehm…confessing to a male – no thanks
    even if someone i don’t like confesses to me at least i’m sure that i’m not that big of an asshole to cause him so much suffering apart from rejecting to go out with him

  • This is totally expected and is true for pretty much every society. The women expect to be asked out by the men. It kind of baffles me that women expect men to be the ones to notice them every time, though. They never take the first step to get noticed it seems, especially in Japan (aka 1960s America), so how do they expect men to ask them out?

  • if they want single life
    then they deserve it

    I just want to a find girl that worthy enough to be my partner
    in society they’re always deviance from majority
    it takes a lot of effort to find them
    but it is better than doing nothing
    at least in the end even if you don’t get them, you wont regret what you’re doing
    because
    effort = you don’t give up

  • Well I can understand the woman wanting to be confessed to rather then then having to confess themselves… Well because it’s scary and embarrassing to confess… >////< But I understand that both girls and guys prefer to be confessed to, because I mean who doesn't want that? Well I've never confessed before because I was positive I'd be rejected… But I've also never been confessed to… *sigh* Guess that's karma for you. I guess if I had a guy I really liked (which I currently do not have) I'd try to work up the courage to confess… Ah what the heck, even if he rejected me it's not like my self esteem could get any lower.
    But what I don't get about the article is people give gifts when they're confessing??? Isn't that like a bribe? I think I'd be rather offended by that, I'm not something you can buy. :< Well unless it was something I really wanted, because that shows you've been paying attention. But I'd prefer you save the gift giving until after we're going out, cuz I'd feel really guilty about receiving a gift and not giving something in return. But none the less I wouldn't want something cliche like flowers or jewelry. That stuff is useless to me. I'd prefer a plushie or a nendoroid. X3

    • …O_O Oh my god, I still own that for the Sega Saturn.

      …and maybe I might own the side-puzzle game, too. And a Shiori doll. And a Mio clock. And a Saki postcard book. And a few other things. (When I like a series, I tend to try to buy everything from it–seeing the memorabilia guide from the series, this is nigh-impossible, but it’s still nice to dream)

      But I *wish* relationships were like games. All you’d need to do is beef up your charm stats, answer a question properly every few weeks, and compliment your SO’s hair or profession of choice, and you’d have a girlfriend/boyfriend in the bag with a smooth-sailing relationship in no time ><

  • Dammit. All these articles on Sankaku more or less suggest Japanese women are all whores that want nothing but to live an easy life by finding a financially stable husband who will pretty much do everything for them.

    I say we all switch roles for a century or two. I wanna be a house husband instead.

    • Nah, lets believe they are since the people of the world believe Western women are idiotic drug addicted slut buckets. Its fair game here.

      But your second idea sounds fun. LETS DO A ROLL REVERSAL!

    • I got the same sad feeling from the surveys. I would like to know how many women were surveyed and other additional information. I know some women are greedy bitches, golddigges, whores but THAT many?
      I feel ashamed for them…

  • Honestly if you asked men 21-35 if they’d rather be asked out or ask the girl themselves.. 77% would probably say they’d want to be asked out too..

    It’s about breaking the ice i think, most people are nervous when it comes to asking anybody out, that’s just natural.

    Honestly i can’t remember the last time i actually confessed to somebody, mostly it was a convenience thing. (both of us were together all the time and it just, “happened”.) I figured most relationships after highschool were the same lol.. maybe im the weird one.

  • The only time I’ve ever been able to get into a proper relationship, I’ve always started talking openly about sex with other partners first…

    Then they feel bad and don’t wanna swing, lol

  • this type of woman exists in may countries throughout the world. avoid her if you value your sanity… but if you feel like being a sap then i guess you can take some of them off of our hands.

    every woman i’ve met would love flowers any day.

    things, though? highly doubt it.

  • Why all the negative posts?
    Most women want to be approached by men, and not the other way around. Not exactly a shock. Most of the time when women do the asking they are either viewed as desperate or just looking for sex.

    They also prefer cheap gifts, which comes as a pleasant surprise.

    • I think both genders prefer being approached as to doing it themselves. This way they can be the one turning the other down.

      “Most of the time when women do the asking they are either viewed as desperate or just looking for sex.”

      really? I wouldn’t see it that way

      • TBH, I like women who actually try to instigate the relationship, it doesnt always mean that they’re desparate or just lookin for sex. It could mean that they just have more courage or sense than 77% or so of the women in Japan to know that waiting for a man to go on his knees for you is pretty damn counter-productive in regards to the whole birth-rate thing…. Basically Aggresive Women = Sensible imo.

  • Well making the girl or woman the object of attention usually ends in a ride to hell. If she agrees to meld with the guy, I think using the flowers method is probably the best. I am not sure kneeling and shouting at the top of your lungs I really really want your snatch bad, is a good idea.

  • You know if sentimentality was important to these women, they’d have voted for a poem or something instead of some flowers which you can just buy.

    I also find it funny that they consider everything else worrying because it may cost alot of money when you can easily get excessive flower bouquets going into the hundreds of dollars.

    • Poem? …I’m not sure I’d fall for that, either; unless it was some nerdy or funny one to make me laugh.

      While I also believe a bouquet is excessive, only one flower can be pretty romantic without looking like you’re jumping the shark. You’ve got all that flower language going on too, so that’s a nice way of staying on a budget while doing something nice to your girl.

      Just don’t do it if you think you have to.

    • Confession itself doesn’t need to be accompanied by anything according to survey and I agree. Somebody gives you “his/her heart” – what else would you want? Even Japanese women can’t be THAT greedy to spoil the moment with materialistic things.

      However, you’ve got a point there but I don’t know if a poem is a good idea. Yes, I think a normal, sebsible woman would be happy that you care and did something really lovely for her but there are less and less manly men in the world, seems to me. Poem is nice thing but could turn out to be pretty awkward, too. But still would be appreciated I think. I like manly men and really hate poems but hey, I would still be happy as hell that the guy likes me enough to do something like that…
      So basically, I wanted to disagree but still agree a little, damn. 😀

      • you have to think of the possibility of a catastrophic breakup too.

        at which point she may reveal EVERYTHING you have told her in confidence.

        that poem stunt will mark you as the one to laugh at to everyone who knows you.

        • that was a break up on bad terms i guess, otherwise she made a bad choice going out with a bad person and giving that person something she probably shouldn’t have. douche did the first thing any guy would don on ending a relationship on bad terms, make said picture as public domain as possible.

          no, pictures aside, the worse is when its a fetish, or something wired about you or happened to you. i had a friend who was… lets say and ass and unliked, but managed to get a girl.

          he shit himself in a fairly embarrassing way, but no one really knew about it. she some how got the info out of him. they broke up, on fairly bad terms. he wanted nothing to do, she wanted revenge.

          that halloween, because it was close to that time, we were allowed to ware costumes to school, it was senior year, no hats or props in class room, no props in the hallways.

          she got some of her friends and people who don’t like him together, they wore adult dippers on the outside of there pance, with a date, im assuming when it happed on the ass and told people who asked to ask him, at first he had no fucking clue what it was about, but than he saw them… yea, we all had a good lol, but thankfully he was mostly over it by than.

          point is people can be prickish, men will mostly do the crap like photos, but women, they can be vindictive, and almost stalker like, and unless they do physical harm, are over looked when it comes to harassing a guy.

        • Ugh, now that would be nasty. But I can’t imagine any healthy thinking person actually doing something like that. It’s so immature and really, really nasty.
          And could happen from both sides. There were a case where a girl sent erotic photos of her to her boyfriend and that jerk sent it to all his friends after they broke up; his friends spread it to the whole school and she became a laughing matter. She commited suicide, I think.
          Such person is the most disgusting – man or woman, gender doesn’t matter…

          People should stay polite, even after the break up. And sensible and well-behaved people wouldn’t laugh at the person for leaked information. It’s all about people being jerks. Some people seriously make me sick.
          I can’t imagine I would do such something so… hurtful… No matter how bad the person was, there’s no point in hurting him that way.

    • Women want equality by law, but in the end they are are slaves to their biology. Meanwhile Men are scolded into be less aggressive by society.

      I think this is what leads to so many disastrous relationships. Unable to understand that the average man has changed to a more effeminate being, Girls are more often attracted to people who are dangerous.

      • he hits me because he cares.

        i knew someone who said that once, i slapped her and told her to end it with him, apparently when her give her a black eye he loves her, but a slap is crossing an unspoken line.

      • If manga is any indication, in the old days boys could be rough and could also sexually harass girls (ie. skirt pulling). Now if boys do it they get talked to, and drag their parents in or entire thing hushed over. Boys learn to become less overt in harassment; a fine knowledge to have for future employment as teachers.

        I recall an article that the girls prefer older men. The tough big bear kind older generation. Those guys are likely more able to make the first moves.

        In short, let the boys be rough again. Perhaps it’ll give them courage to make moves and get harassment out of their system so they won’t end up being teachers.

  • I don’t really understand all the double standards here; if women want equality, then they shouldn’t ask for special treatment, and if women want special treatment, they shouldn’t be tooting the equality horn.

    As a woman, this completely perplexes me. I don’t know what’s the big deal about the guy asking the woman out and giving gifts (and WHEN he confesses? Seriously? What do these women think this is, a shoujo manga?!) in the first place–I’ve done the instigating in every relationship I’ve ever had, and I’ve never found gift-giving to be mandatory. It’s certainly nice, but it’s something that should be done because you want to, not because you feel that you have to.

    And I’ve found that when you receive gifts, it’s more fun to give just as many in return. 🙂

      • Well it’s hard to not yell sexism when someone tells me to go to the kitchen and make them a sammwich 😀

        Now jokes aside, women should really cut the crap down with this old fashioned ideas about dating, like the man’s got to pay or they’ve got to give you flowers. Personally I’d feel like an asshole if the guy paid for the bill in the first date and rather split it; nobody is made of money. Gifts for asking out? unless the guy was an old fashioned romantic (there are still some) I’d think “WTF it’s the first date we barely/don’t know each other” and freak out a bit.

        The problem also goes the other way, though. There’s still the assumption in society that a woman asking men out is a slut/easy/gold-digging or something is generally wrong with her, and I can see that everywhere; here is no exception. Hell, some men feel their manhood is threatened when a woman is proactive like that, so I don’t find it surprising that these Japanese women just sit on their asses and wait, because Japanese men encourage the old ways too.

        I think if you really wanna do something romantic, do it because you want to show your partner your love, not because you must meet some bullshit-standard of romanticism; whether your a woman or a man.

        • @Rena I think it’s all about what both you and the man are comfortable with. I also have no problem whatsoever with romantic gestures and the guy stepping up to it as long as he does it because he ended up liking you a lot or something along those lines.

        • *applauds*

          However, I must say that I’m old-fashioned a little about the first date, if it’s a serious one, that is. If a man pays on the first date it just leaves a good impression to me, maybe because it was still the matter of politeness when I was a child. But it’s not like I was dissapointed if we split the bill. It feels more comfortable actually. An I have no problem to pay for a man, too. It makes me happy to do so if I really like the person.
          But I think it’s a matter of how serious a relatioship is, too. It’s not woth it if you’re just out for flirt, IMHO.

      • I’m not quite sure about this ‘majority of women’ you’re referring to. I’d say most women don’t give shit, while the sadder and more pitiful of feminists do. Also, many REAL egalitarians are female.

        • I did read it and agree.

          Well, the old feminist movement is pretty much history since it reached it’s goal. What we have today is a mostly a bunch of lying, blackmailing statistics forging female supremacists, or femnazis as we like to call them. There might be still real feminists among them who believe the lies they get fed, but probably not much.

        • “There are a lot women like Jennifer Darknight who know quite well that they are treated equal to men or even are preferred in most of the civilized world and therefore are indifferent to the feminist movement.”

          I wouldn’t necessarily say that I’m indifferent to the feminist movement as a whole–I appreciate what it did in the past, since, without it, I wouldn’t be able to vote or get any real work outside of being a good ‘ol woman makin’ ma mayn a sammich…but it’s developed into something far beyond what it once was. The original idea of the movement was to give women the same rights men do–that’s all. It was a completely egalitarian movement back in the day.

          …like, in the 20’s.

          It’s this ‘modern feminism’ bullshit that I hate, and are the so-called ‘feminists’ of today. It is true that there are instances where women are treated less equally than men, but it’s not on such a large scale that they make it out to be, and it’s mostly based on old-fashioned and outdated ideas about gender roles, rather than any real maliciousness. I’m pretty sure a lot of guys don’t just wake up and say “Hahaha, time to subjugate some innocent wimmin this mornin'”, though there are probably a few dickheads who make the male gender look bad on a daily basis by putting women down for their own sick schadenfreude, but then, the same can be said about the feminazis. Regardless of gender, it’s these few people who believe in their gender’s power and supremacy who make the rest of their gender look bad, and cause screams of sexism and inequality on both sides of the fence in regards to everyone in that particular gender (all women are sexist, all men are sexist, etc).

          I’m indifferent to the call of special treatment and other such shit…

          But if we’re going to go with the old definition…you know, what it was meant to be? The whole ‘real equality’ thing without the added padding? Sure, count me in.

          And for both genders, please. >< It's not just women who need it, you know.

          Wow, that was a lot longer than I thought.

          TL;DR to the max.

        • I refer to the majority of women who demand equality, not the majority of all women in general.

          There are a lot women like Jennifer Darknight who know quite well that they are treated equal to men or even are preferred in most of the civilized world and therefore are indifferent to the feminist movement.

          The femnazis know that as well but don’t give a shit – and they make up the majority of the feminists. Their forged statistics and fucked up activities prove that time and again.

    • at least theres a female out there that understands the man side of relationships.

      Females asking for equality isn’t what is most striking in this article though (this is a big part though. Dont get me wrong. I find that females want everything, special treatment, equality and everything no matter what. For some reason, I dont think women in general don’t understand that women can’t get everything or else that would make his man a slave. When a man becomes a slave, the women complains about that to. There is no winning in that scenario. Women need to compromise and until they understand that, this whole idea of equality is very messed up and us men wont accept being slaves.) I however, will never understand why women can’t also confess too. I dont think women understand how embarressing or how stressful it is to confess. Until women try, this article will always remain true. No wonder why you have all this crap about women asking for equality. This is not about equality. its just self fish in my opinion. Women need to realize that if they confess to a man, its pretty much the same as a man confessing to a women. There is nothing special. In a lot of these cases it seems, the women are just hopless and thats just sad. Unless women start going through everything that they do tyo try and get a girl, women will always be selfish like this. Women and their complexities is what makes relationships so impossible as well as making otokus perfer 2d girls. No, it isn’t because of anti-socialization or shyness. Guys can get over that when they know they can see a naked girl. The complexities that girls brings into a relationship is just to much to deal with. (Yes Im single and a virgin, in case anyone wants to flame me.) But this is just to hard to dispute as fact and people here know it.

      Gift giving is not mandatory, but it is expected which is why it is mandatory. If the man doesn’t give a gift, or gives a gift to cheap, theres all this mental war that goes on in the women that askes a bunch of irrelevant questions that can and usually causes breakups. Women in general should just be like men: simple and a gender that tries everything not to complicate matters.

    • ^you’ve got more balls than I do, and I’m a guy lol

      I’ve yet to confess, but then again, I’ve yet to meet someone who’s worth confessing to, but I think I’d have trouble even in that situation.

    • I like your name Jennifer.

      White Knights are hypocrites and in actuality, the real sexists because they refuse to give up their age old ideals of women.

      If a woman wants to fight with a man, let her fight. She has equal rights to pick a fight and equal rights to receive pain. But noooo, the white knight intervenes (hoping to receive some in return).

      • White knights are just awkward and embarrassing… at least good old chauvinists are funny.

        I don’t quite agree with letting her fight, though. While stopping her might be sexist, it’s also a reasonable decision unless you KNOW she’s as capable as the man. That said, I don’t think I’d let a pugilistically impotent man fight an angry martial arts’ master, either.

    • You’re a moron. Equality is for rights, not for wishes or prefferences.

      The same way it’s EQUAL to be able to keep your name after marriage even though most women PREFFER to take the man’s name. And those who choose to keep it aren’t infringing on anyone’s rights, let alone males’s right in The truth is, men also want to be the ones who ask, or who confess. I knew examples where the woman asked the guy to marry him, and he was OFFENDED that he lost his chance to do it himself.

  • It’s obvious that most women would say they would like to get asked out. Who doesn’t like being asked out?

    As for flowers: they didn’t say a gift is required, it actually said that 46% would go out with someone just because he confessed with flowers.

    See how easy it is to impress these girls?

  • Shippoyasha says:

    That is a pretty high number, but I wouldn’t have been surprised if it was 99% at the assumptions people still holds on about marriage.

    As if economic conditions aren’t harmful enough to the ideal of marrying, having kids and staying economically independent, there’s these fairy tale assumptions about marriage still floating around in Japan. No wonder they have a critically low rate of marriage and childbirths.

    On addendum, apparently Catherine (PS3/360) will explore this very fear of marriage from mens’ perspective into a videogame form. Can’t wait!

      • Klingengeist says:

        Nobody said they actually love the guys confessing to them. Maybe they really just want the a cow to milk. xD
        And the 2% are the ones that really are in love (or the guys are extraordinarily good looking or rich xD).

        Also its easier to say “No” to guys confessing to them instead of confessing and getting refused themselves.

      • It really surprised me that the 46% women who prefered flowers actually said they’d be concerned if they receive expensive gifts.

        Seems the gold diggers make up about half of the female population. Probably the cuter half.

        The poor guys have a 50% chance to fuck up right from the beginning, no matter what they do…

        • @anon 00:48

          I was talking about the “46% women who prefered flowers actually said they’d be concerned if they receive expensive gifts.” part Schrobby was surprised about.

          That is, about this one particular behavior of Japanese women, not women in general.

          Also, I was talking about not only my experience. I, luckily, have avoided such a misfortune as “love”, but many haven’t. People at that mind state can do next to anything, especially if they lack experience; some repeat their mistakes over and over tho.

        • I guess it’s a Japanese thing.

          In the West, any woman who doesn’t know you well would just be happy about it and grab your money instead.
          But in Japan, the society is more collectivist and care more about overall well-being in different ways that wouldn’t seem as a matter of course to us.

          Remember that fat guy wanting to date a maid troll thread? In that case, the girl was also concerned of the customer willing to throw all his belongings away.

          (plus, it’s hard to make a living in there so a girl would prefer a guy who wouldn’t spend his money without thinking – even if he’d give it all to her.)

        • “In the West, any woman who doesn’t know you well would just be happy about it and grab your money instead.
          But in Japan, the society is more collectivist and care more about overall well-being in different ways that wouldn’t seem as a matter of course to us.”

          That is fucking bullshit, and you are just bad with women if that is your idea of them.

        • Yes, because not denying it means I agree with it (please notice the sarcasm). What do you mean jerks are sexy but nice guys aren’t? just because nice guys get cheated on by bitches that means they aren’t sexy? Wow, I’m sorry but that’s retarded thinking. I rather you didn’t assume crap about which men we women think are hot or not, thank you.

          As I said, if you’re not satisfied, some communication is in order. Instead of being a retard and cheat on someone, you can either make up or break up and start anew. You’re not supposed to cheat. Just like you don’t kill someone just because you’ve got the natural reaction of wanting to do so.

        • “…most of women are INSTINCTIVELY inclined to be the passive gender and anticipate step forward from the man.”

          I wouldn’t say it’s instinctive, but it is certainly a ‘characteristic’ of Japanese women, due in no small part to the insistence of their society into uplifting men as ‘stronger’, ‘protector’, ‘provider’, ‘strict’ and whatnot.

          Since men have this status overthere, I think it’s only natural they are also expected to man up and be the sexually aggressive gender, or as a Japanese might put it “take responsibility for the status bestowed upon them”

        • No, it means jerks will get along with jerks (bad guys with two-timing bitches). If you’re a nice guy and are such to your girl and she cheats on you, she’s a jerk who doesn’t deserve you.

          Now if there are some issues between the two of you, then maybe some communication was in order; but still that’s no excuse for cheating either.

        • @01:23 boozed

          That you’re no longer with them – assuming you typed the truth.

          I know what you’re trying to say. My point is this: whatever you have gotten by being nice, you can get more and of higher quality by being an ‘alpha male’. Therefore, instead of instructing nerds to be nice, you should first tell them to get some confidence and leadership and whatnot.

          Being a ‘leader’, confident, and making decisions for one’s group – assuming authority, that is – are all qualities of an alpha male, and make most acts of ‘niceness’ counter-productive. If you want to be ‘nice’ and alpha, you’d have to take into account a shitload of stuff which isn’t fun if you’re just looking for sex.

        • the amount of ridiculousness floating around in this thread is staggering.

          first of all, they said they’d RATHER be asked out than do the asking, it doesn’t mean they REFUSE to ask. of course a woman prefers the man to make the first move, it makes us feel good. but i still won’t pass up the opportunity to ask out a guy i really like.

          and are you guys really complaining about being told what will get you an AUTOMATIC yes? all you have to do is give her some flowers when you confess to get guaranteed agreement and you’re seeing this as a bad thing? it’s not like these women said they wanted diamond rings or yachts.

          and being that boozed says he’s “had” a few japanese women, i’m pretty sure that means he got to have sex with her. believe it or not, only immature superficial women go for the bad boys, that’s not the type of guy a woman wants to settle down with. but a lot of you self-professed “nice guys” aren’t as nice as you like to think you are. maybe take a minute to consider whether you’re really being nice in respect to HER feelings and not just as a ploy to get her in bed. start treating women like fellow human beings and you won’t have to choose between “virgin” and “ATM,” you can have a relationship founded on mutual respect and effort.

        • *w*o*w*

          I am amazed by all those votes down I got for pointing out the natural rules of human affection.

          1) Like sure, if a girl goes “hey don’t buy me this cheap crap bring me there there buy me that diamond for $$$$” that means she’s in it for your cash.

          But, flowers? Seriously, there isn’t a single girl who wouldn’t like such a simple form of showing affection. If you’re cheap you can always pick em up at a park or a graveyard and it’ll be okay unless you tell it. 😀

          2) I agree that there are women into marriage just for the money. But there’s also such things as living together with person you love without marriage bonds, or making a marriage agreement which does not force you to share any financial bonds, thus you keep your own cash at divorce.

          Personally, I think the latter type of contract is the best way to make sure if the person you love wants you or your property.

          3) Surely there are old societal traditions but most of women are INSTINCTIVELY inclined to be the passive gender and anticipate step forward from the man.

          I mean, look at animals. How often you see doggies with wee-wees out chasing their love affections and how often you see the contrary?

        • Bah, even if a woman with such a character would make the 1st move herself – who’d want (being in sound mind and memory) to marry her to spend the rest of his life trying to re-educate her, helping her to correct her character, which is full of parasitic ideals?

        • I’d offer them a shiny needle to pop their childish fairy princess dreams and welcome them to reality.

          And you know what else is sad? Majority of those woman would likely be better/happier if it were them to make the 1st move. Instead of ending up in their late 30’s and single.

        • “77% of these women wanted the man to confess to them and only 2% would want to confess themselves.”

          “46% said a bouquet of flowers, 43% a ring, 28% “accessories,” 22% a necklace and 16% a watch”

          Seems most of the japanese women think it’s not worth the hassle unless the man proves he can finance them an easy life.

        • @yaku

          Not quite right – cheating is a so-called natural reaction to being unsatisfied with a relationship. When the temptation grows too strong for the girl’s relative ‘strength’, she’ll cheat. Some girls don’t, of course, but those girls have rare circumstances, for example no real interest in a relationship or sex.

          The first and most important thing – why do the hottest girls date ‘jerks’, and even MARRY them – usually doesn’t have anything to do with cheating. The explanation is the nature of the female mind – when it works as it’s supposed to, it tends to be attracted towards powerful men and other survival-oriented stuff.

          Funny how the girls might (and probably will) cheat on a ‘nice’ guy, but I hardly ever hear of a girl cheating on a ‘bad boy’, even if they’re in a serious relationship. Why is that? Because jerks are sexy, and nice guys aren’t. … you didn’t deny this so I guess that’s obvious.

        • Boozedimpulsegundam says:

          Wow, took you long enough. Oh how your witty repartee has cut me to the quick. Oh wait, no it hasn’t. Actually i am still with one of them. But i still make time for your mom because she pays well.

        • 02:51

          Yeah, being a nice guy will net you a 30 to 99-year old that ‘appreciates’ your kindness. If that’s what you want, go for it. I’m referring to sex and not serious relationships.

          But think about it for awhile. Why do the hottest women date jerks? Because the jerks ARE the best they can get, that’s why. They don’t choose the ‘nice guys’ because those guys aren’t attractive to them.

          Think also about this: What kind of types are women more likely to cheat with? That’s right. The bad boys.

          This isn’t to say nice guys can’t get hot girls – this is to say nice guys shouldn’t EXPECT such luck, unlike the so-called jerks. Seriously, saying it’s better to be a nice guy is a damn fine way for nice guys to escape reality – but when they wake up, they’ll feel like shit.

  • As a matter of fact, I agree it’s the man’s role to ask the lady out; if anything it’s the biological imperative, we men being the more agressive sex and all. By the way, a bouquet is hardly an unreasonable concession to make; over the years I have presented most girlfriends with one, and as presents go they’re quite effective.

    Oh, and “vegetarian” men should die in celibacy – not that they need much help with that, anyway.

    • Nope. Western women and eastern women are pretty much the same – when it comes to being materialistic or whoreish.

      Being attracted to power is a major reason female’s are attracted to rich men. It doesn’t matter whether we’re talking about Japan, Europe or the US.

      • jamesownsall says:

        Ya know what? You remind me of some research shit I read a while back.

        In the old days, women seek the ‘macho’, strong-looking type of men because of the physical security these men can provide them. Back then, there are no real cops, or even if there are cops, they ain’t CSI, and crimes can get covered up real easy.

        As women depend less on men with the progression of time, they begin to seek other kinds of strength in men: money, beauty(it seems modern women seek effeminate women more now than they do in the past)…