4,500 Rally Against China – “Freedom & Peace in Asia”

Let me get this straight...
1. A single Chinese fishing boat rammed the Japanese coast guard ship on its on accord
2. Japan government decided not to play ball and released the captain and apologised
3. Japan public are pissed at the action carried out by their own government, but rather than taking it up with their own government, they go harrass the Chinese Embassy instead

Seriously...does that even sound reasonable to you guys? May be everytime some foreign ship ram your country's coast guard ship, and your country decide to let the so-called criminal go, you should gather up thousands of people to harrass their country's embassy...because of the action of one damn boat?

If the Japanese public want to dispute on the territory ground, put pressure on their own damn govenment and politician to force them to negotiate with China, not taking things into own hands and harrass every Chinese they come across because of this stupid incident.

Don't we have something similar in the past? Britain and Iceland, remember?

This is what you call a sensible argument.

They didn't mob or harass the embassy they did the same protest they've been doing the Chinese thought they did there's a difference you're missing.

I was refering to the first protest they did at the Chinese Embassy right after Japanese government apologised to China in case you are misunderstanding...that was what led to the riot in China.

Sure the Japanese didn't physically assault the Chinese Embassy, but does that mean verbal violence can be tolerated or ignored? Like someone call your mum a bitch and you sister a whore, and you punch him in the face, and that make you the guy in the wrong now is it?

The only difference between the actions of Japan and China was verbal violence vs physical violence. Another thing is that while some people in China assaulted Japanese related things in the riots, Japanese also assaulted Chinese in Japan, such as tourists, but don't expect to see that kind of news reported much here on this site...and even if it did, it would most likely be passed off as "they deserved that, it's their fault they were born as Chinese".

Also, the Japan's protest move from "invasion of Japan territory cannot be forgiven" (yea, one bloody fishing boat) to "China's military power domainance over Asia". They are trying to justify and make themselves the patriots putting on the banner fighting for the sake of the entire Asia, be in reality they are just doing it for their own sake.

Also this over this island incident, did you really think Japanese government bowed before China because of fearing their military power? No, they are just afraid their country's economy would be seriously affected if China stop doing business with them. The Japanese protesters' quote of the subject of "military power" is just an excuse they themselves decide to throw into the context to justify their cause.

Lots of people (well idiots) think China will start a war, but in reality is that they DON'T NEED TO (and it would be stupid to make themselves world's enemy). All they have to do is shut their doors to foreign countries in trades and businesses, and it would already be enough to create chaos for them economy wise.

Eh, no. You're wrong on both accounts. First, it's not like people around here don't condemn the actions of the Japanese rioters. It's just that the Anti-China factions is quite a bit larger and that's not just because there are lots of otakus around here.
Second, if China would "close its doors for trade" as a sanction, they'd die. China is mortally dependent on trade. Even more so than other countries. Let them reach their economic peak and you'll so that they will face the same problems the west is facing for decades. And those problems will hit them even harder because Chinas growth happens in a "fast-forward" mode.

I think you misunderstood what I meant...or may be I wasn't clear on the closing the doors for trade part. I don't mean they seal themselves off completely...what I meant they can pick WHO to trade with, and who NOT TO trade with.

I have read the other articles, and I'm well awared of the riot that happened in China. And no I doing think the riot is the right thing to do, but the riot was actually the result of the Japanese mobbing the Chinese Embassy in Japan, not the boats crash.

Also, I really don't get it...what are they trying to achieve with all these protests which are just throwing oil at fire? They want to cut ties with China now is that it? How is THAT gonna be realistically beneficial to them?

One thing I know is that if the PVC were to be made in countries other than China, the retail prices will most likely go up, and it certainly would not be beneficial to me.

"A car crash at sea" :/

All well and good except that the sea is pretty big, kinda hard to hit something by accident. It's not so much a car crash, as a crazy nationalist ramming a cop car with an artic truck. And considering it was a Chinese fishing vessel clearly and deliberately ramming a Japanese government vessel, yeah, the people of Japan have a pretty good reason to get pissed off about the incident alone, let alone the government's weak cover up.

Calling for nukes, etc IS over the top and plain retarded though.

It's a matter of sovereignty.If Japan apologizes to China,they are indirectly saying that they were wrong to be near those islands in the first place(Because they belong to China).The Senkaku islands lie on a potentially huge gas and oil field.Ownership of territory between countries is a complex matter where the winner is usually the one who can impose their presence the most in those territories.Its got nothing to do with pride and a lot to do with politics and money.What kind of idiot would give away billions in natural resources to China?

You are missing the point, it's not a matter of 'if', they already 'apologised' to China and it's not like they can take that back. And the argument over the islands has been going on for decades...it's not like the conclusion will come out of it anytime soon. Both sides are trying to claim the island on a shouting contest (protests) to see who can shout louder, but it still not gonna resolve the issue and end up with a conclusion.

Tension between the two nations has always been pretty high with an traditional 'anti-the other guys' view. These protests are done peacefully in a country where peaceful protesters don't get shot on the spot. It's not just about islands and boats. it's about how china can be bullies because they have a strong military presence.

The purpose of peaceful process is to spread awareness and provoke thought and you and I are discussing it on the interbutts with each other.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Just humans being humans (read: stupid).