The 5th episode of Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt has delivered something of a shock, with the second half (or 10th episode if preferred) adopting a rather unexpected artistic direction.
The first part contains the usual antics (representative sample below), but this was largely ignored for reasons which will soon become obvious.
The second part however takes a rather radical departure from the rest of the series:
And what do Panty and Stocking look like in this new world?
The fan response ranges from bewilderment to boredom, and of course the usual stream of complaints…
It's funny how people pick on the art style of episode 5B when that particular art style has been around for a while.
Look up Tekkon Kinkreet by Studio 4°C, assholes.
This exact same art style was also used by Studio 4°C in their animated short-film for Batman: Gotham Knight.
I like the art style, but not because that I think it's pretty, I actually find the style rather ugly. But that's what it's SUPPOSED to look like. The photo-realism of the backgrounds and the unattractiveness of the characters are supposed to showcase how unattractive real-life can look like.
Only people who've watched Tekkon Kinkreet would be able to appreciate how the story and art style in 5B compliment each other.
The critics who criticize the art probably didn't pay much attention to the story of 5B, which is actually told from a glum guy's PoV when he sees Panty & Stocking, who are like gods.
this art style has also been used in kemonozume so maybe the fact that is produced by CONCHI whoever he is, people complaining about this will keep complaining cuz they will keep featuring directors in next chapters
I like how just because the leg isn't show, that the leg isn't there. Its not like she could be winding her leg up back behind her skirt to kick someone or anything. there is quite a few reasons as to why the leg wouldn't be drawn if you take the time to actually see what is being shown in the image.
I'm not defending the show, I'm assaulting stupidity.
Well, not always. Why do we have to love it to be "as good as you"?
It's not my cup of tea, that's all. I don't see a reason to be blamed for that.
Are you so narrow-minded, people? Pretending to be sooo open-minded to everything but you offend everyone that just don't like it...
Do you like it? Like it then but don't you think there's something wrong with a person who can't accept that not everyone has to love it? I don't have problem with you, people who like the show, so don't be an idiot and leave us "haters," as you tend to say, alone.
Panty&Stocking is unique and all but really nothing for me to watch. Really, is it that wrong?
Trolling my ass, FLCL
Shows like that prove that your an idiot.
And the fact they know your an idiot who wont get it is why they continue to make "different"things.
At least their trying.
Unlike the moe-blob animation crews,who most of us{me included} are almost cursed into following forever.
GIANAX the best and worst of Anime.
Animations Quentin Tarintino
Do you even know what FLCL was really about? Think before you decide to try to scratch yourself on that fucking high horse next time.
FLCL wasn't just "OMG ROBOT COMINGOUT OF HEADS FUR KURI FURI KURI!"it was also how Naoto matured, and how all those things in his "head" had to do with that you dumbfuck.
"Oh, and it had actually good art and animation"? PSG's animation is very fluid, compared to the western shows with thick line animation that it's parodying.
You say FLCL had some "actual humor" and that we need some "mindless fun every once in while". Why do you say that as if PSG lacks both of that? Compared to western animated shows (that aren't drawn anime-esque anyway), the humor is no different and while everything is crazy and "mindlessly fun", it still has a solid plot to work along with it.
You seem to forget the fact that one of the whole points of this anime is to parody western cartoons. Besides that, you also seem to forget, in Japan, anything that's an animated cartoon or whatever, no matter the origin is considered "anime" anyway.
On what terms? PSG not only mocks the moe genre, but also derives from many western looks of crude, and if not satirical humor perspective. Clearly if you don't like the humor thats fine, but spitting at it is another, and the art? Don't project your period of opinion as a whole majority.
FLCL was about Naoto's growth through the fun insanity that was caused. Everything that came out of his head corresponded to a emotion of character development.
It's one to thing to give an opinion, but it's another to just flamebait someone saying "This is shit, this is better, deal with it."
Clearly you didn't think jack shit before you tried to prove a point. FLCL, and PSG are separate shows of different humor. If you don't like it stop, drop, and leave it alone. Don't expect to drop, and try to pull punches at it's fans without getting a little recoil from your disrespect.
I'll leave it alone when this shit stops getting posted on this site. No one fucking cares. How about this, if you really like the show so fucking much go to the series's website. I don't come here to see screen caps of this show. No one cares. Almost everyone hates this show.
Who the flying fuck is "Almost Everyone"? I can name 3 entire websites that like this series. What can you do? Oh thats right sit, and flame.
As I said if you don't like it drop it, and leave it alone. It's your choice to keep paying attention to it, it's another to constantly bicker about something you have the choice to not watch.
How about the fact that anyone who says anything positive about the show gets down rated like crazy while those who are negative are rated positively? Or its horrible ratings and hit count on tv and the internet. Or how about the fact that it is the worst rated show this season by critics and the general anime consuming public alike.
The general consensus is that this show sucks, which is does. Get over that fact.
Anyone who takes a critic > their own opinion needs to be slapped. And again, your projecting one thing as a majority, clearly you did not read my posts, and are just posting out of spite.
I'm curious as to why Schrobby's "Mmmh, superflat" command was minus voted. Is pointing out the style of art really that insulting? Or are some of you so stupid that you thought he meant something else? Sometimes I really don't understand the userbase here.
The person that I originally commented on (still too lazy to make an account, I'm anon@9:45) completely passed off the show because of its 'atrocious art'. Or, at least, the only example listed by the commentator for it being a bad show is because of the 'atrocious art'.
For starters, anything, regardless of what it is, cannot be something other than what it is. A rock is a rock. A statue is a statue. Just because you think the art is atrocious, does not mean that the art is atrocious. It might be a fact that your opinion is what it is, but your opinion itself is not a fact.
Secondly, and addressing my original point, A pile of shit is a pile of shit, regardless of what kind of ribbons you wrap it in. Conversely, a diamond is a diamond no matter how many layers of dust are caked over it. How things are presented are only important to people that have a shallow view of things, and are unable to penetrate past the obvious to realize the true nature of the item in question.
Lastly, I haven't watch this yes. the things I've heard range from 'absolute shit' to 'a clever mockery of the accepted image of anime'. If the later is the case, then the seemingly 'atrocious art' is just another part of its charm. Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone is going to like everything that is given to them, so why those people feel the need to tell other people of their displeasure, and further dare to attempt to prove to others, who might otherwise genuinely enjoy something, that that something is worthless, is beyond me. Simply more evident of an immature mind.
In closing; If you don't like it, leave it alone.
You dumb f*ck, the 2nd to the last pic is a still image of a running scene...
I'd say presentation is unique in this series. I'm sure Gendy Tartakovsky would be flattered that his cartoon style is being adapted into an anime show, and of course vice-versa, American cartoons are adapting japanese style of animation. I mean Gainax even crossed the boundaries of South Park style animation during a segment in FLCL.
If every anime or cartoon constantly use the same style of animation then the industry becomes bland and monotonous, basically loses the creative aspect.
And Sure, the storyline in P&S isn't exactly deep but it's a comedy meant to just be wacky and take things out of proportions...aka entertainment.
Content is in the eye of the beholder. I started watching P&S out of morbid curiosity and I find it hilarious, I'm sure there are others that feel the same.
The presentation is admittedly part of the comedic value, something intended for mature audiences portrayed as a children's cartoon.
because of its anti-moe trend its trying to break from current brain dead otaku. so many studio is worry about lossing viewers, so they all slowly turn their anime into all ecchi/ moe/ incest/ big boobs stuff.
Oh Gainax, you so desperate.
Go look at Naruto Shippuden quality from Studio Pierrot, and say that twice.
I believe they call this "Pulling an Eva"
This is why I love Gainax, you SRSLY can never guess what they will do next!
Bwahahahhah. Eat this, critics who demanded a different art style. ^_^
I demand not to be bored, actually.
So long as it doesn't turn into a "Pulling a Karekano".
I don't get it. People don't like the change of artstyle? I personally loved it, just too bad that the episode itself wasn't all that good.
It's funny how people pick on the art style of episode 5B when that particular art style has been around for a while.
Look up Tekkon Kinkreet by Studio 4°C, assholes.
This exact same art style was also used by Studio 4°C in their animated short-film for Batman: Gotham Knight.
I like the art style, but not because that I think it's pretty, I actually find the style rather ugly. But that's what it's SUPPOSED to look like. The photo-realism of the backgrounds and the unattractiveness of the characters are supposed to showcase how unattractive real-life can look like.
Only people who've watched Tekkon Kinkreet would be able to appreciate how the story and art style in 5B compliment each other.
MY EYES
but yeah...why are people still complaining about panty and stocking on the 5th episode?
if you dont like it then dont fricking watch it
The critics who criticize the art probably didn't pay much attention to the story of 5B, which is actually told from a glum guy's PoV when he sees Panty & Stocking, who are like gods.
In the end, its still a pretty good episode.
this art style has also been used in kemonozume so maybe the fact that is produced by CONCHI whoever he is, people complaining about this will keep complaining cuz they will keep featuring directors in next chapters
Cannot WAIT for Panty, Socking and K-ON.
Lulz shall nt be missed, Gainex!!
I wasn't talking about the quality.
@Ray
Well said, friend~
I'm sure everyone remembers this:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/03/naruto-achieves-legendary-quality/
And Pain's attempt at copying Sonic the Hedgehog:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/naruto-quality-2.gif
lol narutard 2x the fail
i also think the story is off in the anime compared to the manga
Oh Gainax, you so awesome.
fixd'
Lulz at pic #13. Stop that man, you're not Ika-Musume.
Really Awesome!!!
CANT UNSEE FUGLY ANIMATION!!
I know. Look at the 2nd to last pic. Shes missing her leg. QUALITY!
Because anytime you can't see something it ceases to exist, amirite?
Fucking solopists, ruining my anime.
I like how just because the leg isn't show, that the leg isn't there. Its not like she could be winding her leg up back behind her skirt to kick someone or anything. there is quite a few reasons as to why the leg wouldn't be drawn if you take the time to actually see what is being shown in the image.
I'm not defending the show, I'm assaulting stupidity.
I voted up solipsism.
Shes running, if youd see it in motion you would get it. Desperate complaints are desperate.
You have no idea what animation is.
The art can be called fugly but hey, so are a lot of real people.
Gainax had all the intention to do the art fugly, its just a diferent style.
I didn't mind the second half at all. It was quite well done for such a short story.
This entire show has been a desperate move to get attention.
Pretty sad.
I wanted more Stocking. :(
Am I the only one thinking of "Death of a Salesman" in regards to the plot?
Well...not anymore.
no comments huh?
I guess most still have to watch it.
Worst new show of the year. No problem. I don't know why anyone with a brain is praising it. The art is absolutely atrocious.
You know why people are praising P&S?
Fuck you, that's why.
Haters gonna hate.
Faggots gonna like.
Troll you are
HEY GUISE WHATS GOING ON HERE
Pepole like this show because theyre not fucking snobby idiots who can't enjoy themselfs without some deeper meaning.
Well, not always. Why do we have to love it to be "as good as you"?
It's not my cup of tea, that's all. I don't see a reason to be blamed for that.
Are you so narrow-minded, people? Pretending to be sooo open-minded to everything but you offend everyone that just don't like it...
Do you like it? Like it then but don't you think there's something wrong with a person who can't accept that not everyone has to love it? I don't have problem with you, people who like the show, so don't be an idiot and leave us "haters," as you tend to say, alone.
Panty&Stocking is unique and all but really nothing for me to watch. Really, is it that wrong?
yeah is that wrong anon?
answer me as a fellow anon!
Rena, don't turn it around. This started with a post from a faggot stating "I don't know why anyone with a brain is praising it."
Overrated bull shit of an anime if U ask me.
"Overrated" how? Most of what I hear/see is complaints.
Also: They're trolling now. Seriously.
As if they were not trolling in almost every show since and including Eva.
Most non-Japanese don't like this. They want their anime to be nice and stereotypical.
Trolling my ass, FLCL
Shows like that prove that your an idiot.
And the fact they know your an idiot who wont get it is why they continue to make "different"things.
At least their trying.
Unlike the moe-blob animation crews,who most of us{me included} are almost cursed into following forever.
GIANAX the best and worst of Anime.
Animations Quentin Tarintino
I said almost every show moron, not all of them. Learn to read before calling other people an idiot.
ALMOST every show, not all. Learn to read before calling someone an idiot.
Do you even know what FLCL was really about? Think before you decide to try to scratch yourself on that fucking high horse next time.
FLCL wasn't just "OMG ROBOT COMINGOUT OF HEADS FUR KURI FURI KURI!"it was also how Naoto matured, and how all those things in his "head" had to do with that you dumbfuck.
FLCL was leagues above this shit because it had Mamimi and actual humor. Think before you post.
Oh, and it had actually good art and animation as well.
And everything has to be deeper? Why can't we have some mindless fun every once in a while?
"Oh, and it had actually good art and animation"? PSG's animation is very fluid, compared to the western shows with thick line animation that it's parodying.
You say FLCL had some "actual humor" and that we need some "mindless fun every once in while". Why do you say that as if PSG lacks both of that? Compared to western animated shows (that aren't drawn anime-esque anyway), the humor is no different and while everything is crazy and "mindlessly fun", it still has a solid plot to work along with it.
You seem to forget the fact that one of the whole points of this anime is to parody western cartoons. Besides that, you also seem to forget, in Japan, anything that's an animated cartoon or whatever, no matter the origin is considered "anime" anyway.
Nobody wants to know what you think, Dumblock. Now STFU and GTFO.
If someone doesn't like an anime they have a right to say it's overrated.
On what terms? PSG not only mocks the moe genre, but also derives from many western looks of crude, and if not satirical humor perspective. Clearly if you don't like the humor thats fine, but spitting at it is another, and the art? Don't project your period of opinion as a whole majority.
FLCL was about Naoto's growth through the fun insanity that was caused. Everything that came out of his head corresponded to a emotion of character development.
It's one to thing to give an opinion, but it's another to just flamebait someone saying "This is shit, this is better, deal with it."
Clearly you didn't think jack shit before you tried to prove a point. FLCL, and PSG are separate shows of different humor. If you don't like it stop, drop, and leave it alone. Don't expect to drop, and try to pull punches at it's fans without getting a little recoil from your disrespect.
I'll leave it alone when this shit stops getting posted on this site. No one fucking cares. How about this, if you really like the show so fucking much go to the series's website. I don't come here to see screen caps of this show. No one cares. Almost everyone hates this show.
Who the flying fuck is "Almost Everyone"? I can name 3 entire websites that like this series. What can you do? Oh thats right sit, and flame.
As I said if you don't like it drop it, and leave it alone. It's your choice to keep paying attention to it, it's another to constantly bicker about something you have the choice to not watch.
How about the fact that anyone who says anything positive about the show gets down rated like crazy while those who are negative are rated positively? Or its horrible ratings and hit count on tv and the internet. Or how about the fact that it is the worst rated show this season by critics and the general anime consuming public alike.
The general consensus is that this show sucks, which is does. Get over that fact.
Anyone who takes a critic > their own opinion needs to be slapped. And again, your projecting one thing as a majority, clearly you did not read my posts, and are just posting out of spite.
Your only further proving my point.
Who said I've taken a critic's word on this? I've seen it. Its awful. The majority of other people who've also given it a chance have said the same.
Fortunatelly, no one asked you.
Why? Because it's not so moe-ish as you expect it?
Because it's a superflat that parodies from american entertainment to japanese over-the-sick trendy animation and should be take as only a satire?
Or just because it's a direct kick to the balls of your delicate taste for trends targeted to creepy otakus that marry their electronic appliances?
I'd guess it's the latter...
Mmmh, superflat. ^_^
I'm curious as to why Schrobby's "Mmmh, superflat" command was minus voted. Is pointing out the style of art really that insulting? Or are some of you so stupid that you thought he meant something else? Sometimes I really don't understand the userbase here.
Autistic 17 year olds I suppose.
not THAT kind of superflat. :D
We didn't.
It's a sad world when presentation means more than content...
I don't think the content is being praised neither...
neither is the presentation. look at the 2nd to last pic. she's missing her leg. lol. some presentation.
The person that I originally commented on (still too lazy to make an account, I'm anon@9:45) completely passed off the show because of its 'atrocious art'. Or, at least, the only example listed by the commentator for it being a bad show is because of the 'atrocious art'.
For starters, anything, regardless of what it is, cannot be something other than what it is. A rock is a rock. A statue is a statue. Just because you think the art is atrocious, does not mean that the art is atrocious. It might be a fact that your opinion is what it is, but your opinion itself is not a fact.
Secondly, and addressing my original point, A pile of shit is a pile of shit, regardless of what kind of ribbons you wrap it in. Conversely, a diamond is a diamond no matter how many layers of dust are caked over it. How things are presented are only important to people that have a shallow view of things, and are unable to penetrate past the obvious to realize the true nature of the item in question.
Lastly, I haven't watch this yes. the things I've heard range from 'absolute shit' to 'a clever mockery of the accepted image of anime'. If the later is the case, then the seemingly 'atrocious art' is just another part of its charm. Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone is going to like everything that is given to them, so why those people feel the need to tell other people of their displeasure, and further dare to attempt to prove to others, who might otherwise genuinely enjoy something, that that something is worthless, is beyond me. Simply more evident of an immature mind.
In closing; If you don't like it, leave it alone.
She's running. *sighs*
Leg is hidden behind her body.
You dumb f*ck, the 2nd to the last pic is a still image of a running scene...
I'd say presentation is unique in this series. I'm sure Gendy Tartakovsky would be flattered that his cartoon style is being adapted into an anime show, and of course vice-versa, American cartoons are adapting japanese style of animation. I mean Gainax even crossed the boundaries of South Park style animation during a segment in FLCL.
If every anime or cartoon constantly use the same style of animation then the industry becomes bland and monotonous, basically loses the creative aspect.
And Sure, the storyline in P&S isn't exactly deep but it's a comedy meant to just be wacky and take things out of proportions...aka entertainment.
I salute you anon@16:24 30/10/2010
Content is in the eye of the beholder. I started watching P&S out of morbid curiosity and I find it hilarious, I'm sure there are others that feel the same.
The presentation is admittedly part of the comedic value, something intended for mature audiences portrayed as a children's cartoon.
Are you French?
because of its anti-moe trend its trying to break from current brain dead otaku. so many studio is worry about lossing viewers, so they all slowly turn their anime into all ecchi/ moe/ incest/ big boobs stuff.
In the beginning, i thought this show was kinda bad, then it got real badass, especially the episode when they fought the Demon Sisters.