Final Fantasy XIV Player Numbers “Collapsing”

i had to look up eve online just to make damn sure it was the game i was thinking it was.

its a miracle eve online lasted 3 months, much less almost 3 years

@vanchrian
I understand EQ is still going strong after a decade, but Eve Online? Really? Eve online came out in 2008.

And how this sequel MMO nonsense EQ-1999, EQ2-2004. FFXI-2002, FFXIV-2010. Eight years is too soon?

i want to correct you there.

expansions don't make the mmo keep going, its player base, and developer support. by developer support i mean fixing bugs and putting out seasonal events or just events.

a community of players who all know each other (at lest the high end do) and aren't pieces of shit looking for e-peen

and most importantly, the core game. everquest, has an amazing core game, especially if you know how little or how much it changed.

EVE is pretty much the only MMO besides WoW whose subs keep increasing, and their playerbase isn't too shabby.

Are you guys broken in the head?

Eve was released in 2003. I've been playing it since late 2004.

It's been going for well over SEVEN years.

Whoever thought it was released in 2008 is a buttmonkey.

And on that note, the playerbase is still growing slowly but steadily. Year after year after year.

They must be doing something right.

@alidan Well, expansions are one of the many forms of on-going support. Generally they roll these things out when there're gonna be large changes in the game.

Patches and in-game events are fun, but there's a limit to how much those can achieve.

And Eve Online has been around since 2003! It's over just over 7 years old now, and still getting major updates and expansions.

FF11, not so much. The last of the 4 major expansions was in 2007. Since then they've only received 3 smaller add-on scenarios.

Eve Online has had 13 major expansions to date.

Everquest has had 17.

Don't forget about World of Warcraft... pretty big support base there for all it's flaws

everquest also had far more in game support and events until luclin. up till than one of the bigger draws was people gm's would take the role as a enemy and players would over come them, and there were allot of smaller events like trying to kill a gm to gms attempting to solo mobs in the game that players couldn't take out with full guilds backing them up (mayon mistmore) and also had an accomplished end game.

this has however changed sense luclin where gms only deal with bugs now and when players have a major in game fight over shit happening. its also been for raid players mostly for a while now too, as the group content while high end, nothing changes mid game anymore, so there is very little incentive to reply the game up.

and even sense id like to say luclin (the 3th expantion) but i think it only really came into play during gates of discord, or during omens of war, where players had to aa (alternate advancement) instead of gaining levels. now back than raid took 800 aa to get into the good guilds. back than getting that much aa could take up to 3 months of playing and a year casually, and 400 was necessary for grouping.

and they kept on one upping how hard and much aa you need to be a viable character.

now they have a broken system, where aa is more important then level (a level 60 could easily go toe to toe with equally equipped level 90, and if the 60 has just 50-100aa (for level 60 its recommended to have 500, and for 90 2500minimum he will win)

the only reason this is ok and the game is still going is because most of the people have at least 1 character they can play in close to the end game.

FFX imo was the last one to make some sense out of an rpg

Especially since the stories have been pulled out of Squenix's ass since FF8. In watching SpoonyOne's review of FF8 & 10 none of the characters, their actions, nor motivations make any sense.

u might be correct in your analysis, but i think the debate of what truly is an RPG or not should stop all together.In fact it debating any game for falling into any genre is quite pointless.

genre is a synopsis, not a definition.
you go to a book store, walk to the genre/section you would generally read, but that doesn't mean the content of the books are all identical in format; there's always some variation, be a plot twist or a hybrid of two or more genres.

same should go for games. What matters isn't what genre it's in, it's if the game is fun to play. as along as a game is fun to play, it's a good game.

obviously, the last 10 years, square enix has been focusing way too much on graphics and have been lacking in game innovation, ironically, it is this type of "genre-typing" that keeps JRPGs going any further than what they were.
on the other hand, those who pick on JRPG in the west will likely run into that trap soon after they get too cocky on their own.

You mean "Role Play", "Roll Play" is a derogatory term used to describe worthless players who only pay attention to numbers instead of playing their characters.

I'd prefer to say 'Troll play', perhaps the true FINAL (chapter of) Fantasy

@Anon 10:01 28/10: Lol sorry my spelling sucks

@Anon 09:36 28/10: I agree with all you said (especially the part about them concentrating to much on the graphics), my comment was in reply to Final Fantasy not being an RPG.

Not even the furries...

Not even Rie Tanaka advertising it for (probably) free.

Just wait for Diablo 3 instead man...

Maybe this'll get the message through.

SQUARE ENIX, YOU'RE FUCKING YOURSELF WITH A SERRATED DILDO!!

Oh, man... can't WAIT to see the graph after trial ends.

You needed Sankaku to realize this game was going to be bad? Shit could be seen from a mile away, I don't get how so many people bought the game and were genuinely surprised when it sucked.

Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 ??

Screw MMOs entirely and wait for Portal 2.

yea, not forgetting it's freakin hard to even sign up to play the game, the whole asia/oceanic continent is missing in the registration form, thankfully i can say now. SE loves us i guess.

if any of you are holding SE stock, i guess u should dump them.

Wait for Wakfu, it'll be good hopefully

Screw Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 is where it's at!!!