Final Fantasy XIV Player Numbers “Collapsing”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Oct 27, 2010 22:25 JST
- Tags: Final Fantasy, Internet, Marketing, MMORPG, PC Gaming, Square Enix
Square Enix’s efforts to rescue its disastrous Final Fantasy XIV launch by extending its free trial to two months also seem to have been less than successful – player populations appear to be declining inexorably and scarcely anyone has a nice thing to say about the game.
Player populations through October, excluding holidays and maintenance days:
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When Square Enix will realize that FINAL FANTASY IS A CONSOLE RPG, NOT A MMORPG! Someone please tell'em this.
Thanks.
Player numbers are dropping? Not surprising. Once free play ends they will really drop. The statistics will be a sight to behold.
Shame too... Was thinking of getting into an MMO again and I was looking forward to this title until all the horror stories arose...
I think Sankaku saved me 60$ and a week's worth of gaming since the first few articles about beta XD
You needed Sankaku to realize this game was going to be bad? Shit could be seen from a mile away, I don't get how so many people bought the game and were genuinely surprised when it sucked.
Just wait for Diablo 3 instead man...
Oh, man... can't WAIT to see the graph after trial ends.
Maybe this'll get the message through.
SQUARE ENIX, YOU'RE FUCKING YOURSELF WITH A SERRATED DILDO!!
Screw Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 is where it's at!!!
Wait for Wakfu, it'll be good hopefully
Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 ??
Screw MMOs entirely and wait for Portal 2.
yea, not forgetting it's freakin hard to even sign up to play the game, the whole asia/oceanic continent is missing in the registration form, thankfully i can say now. SE loves us i guess.
if any of you are holding SE stock, i guess u should dump them.
Not even the cute lolis in the game could save it.
Not even the furries...
Not even Rie Tanaka advertising it for (probably) free.
Yeah, no kidding, this game is a joke, was a joke, will be a joke. I played the trial for about 5 hours total -- even that was more than I needed to know the game was going to be a massive pile of c.rap
Final Fantasy is not an RPG, it is an interactive story with stats
And that's exactly what we want if you want to generalize it like that. I find it hard to believe the XBOX generation is so pointlessly out of it when it comes to story. They're the same people who are like "If I wanted a story, I'd read a book" when they haven't read a book since they were forced to by their teacher in class. We CAN read a book, but we want to see these magical 'books' you speak of from the perspective of a hundred artists with talent we alone will never ever possess.
RPGs have varying levels of gameplay, but people don't treat them correctly. You are in it for the character, story, environment and atmosphere. The gameplay will be there in multiple forms depending on the game, but to claim they're an 'interactive story with stats' as if it's a bad thing is counter intuitive. ...and incorrect for that matter.
Especially since the stories have been pulled out of Squenix's ass since FF8. In watching SpoonyOne's review of FF8 & 10 none of the characters, their actions, nor motivations make any sense.
FFX imo was the last one to make some sense out of an rpg
I think the "Roll Play" in RPG was most likely taken from the Movie/stage Play terminology were one played a roll. No mater how much they wanted to in most plays/movie the actors couldn't change the story set by the writers for there character. Just as we the players cant change the story set by the programmers for our character in a "JRPG".
So these "WRPG"s where you get to decide the story/make your own store are not the "True RPG"s, they are IMHO further from it than other RPGs.
I think the reason western game makers are trying to say that "JRPG"s are not RPGs is because they want to keep/clam the fans of RPG as there own, while expanding there player base to those who had tryed "JRPG"s and didnt like them.
IMHO "WRPJ"s these days are action games with stats, not as RPGs.
u might be correct in your analysis, but i think the debate of what truly is an RPG or not should stop all together.In fact it debating any game for falling into any genre is quite pointless.
genre is a synopsis, not a definition.
you go to a book store, walk to the genre/section you would generally read, but that doesn't mean the content of the books are all identical in format; there's always some variation, be a plot twist or a hybrid of two or more genres.
same should go for games. What matters isn't what genre it's in, it's if the game is fun to play. as along as a game is fun to play, it's a good game.
obviously, the last 10 years, square enix has been focusing way too much on graphics and have been lacking in game innovation, ironically, it is this type of "genre-typing" that keeps JRPGs going any further than what they were.
on the other hand, those who pick on JRPG in the west will likely run into that trap soon after they get too cocky on their own.
You mean "Role Play", "Roll Play" is a derogatory term used to describe worthless players who only pay attention to numbers instead of playing their characters.
I'd prefer to say 'Troll play', perhaps the true FINAL (chapter of) Fantasy
@Anon 10:01 28/10: Lol sorry my spelling sucks
@Anon 09:36 28/10: I agree with all you said (especially the part about them concentrating to much on the graphics), my comment was in reply to Final Fantasy not being an RPG.
It can make a fine MMO, you just can't have lazy retards making the thing tho.
FFXI redone today by the same designers based on what they learned would have been a very good MMO.
FFXIV seems like it was made by 1000 typing monkeys.
Agreed. The proper formula to making a good MMO involves sticking with the MMO for many, MANY years.
That's how Everquest and Eve Onling are still going and getting teh monies despite their age and the presence of alternatives.
Making a sequel MMO so soon will only serve to divide their own consumer base up and won't get them many new subcriptions.
They wouldn't even need to redo a whole game. Expansions are what really keeps an MMO going.
i want to correct you there.
expansions don't make the mmo keep going, its player base, and developer support. by developer support i mean fixing bugs and putting out seasonal events or just events.
a community of players who all know each other (at lest the high end do) and aren't pieces of shit looking for e-peen
and most importantly, the core game. everquest, has an amazing core game, especially if you know how little or how much it changed.
@vanchrian
I understand EQ is still going strong after a decade, but Eve Online? Really? Eve online came out in 2008.
And how this sequel MMO nonsense EQ-1999, EQ2-2004. FFXI-2002, FFXIV-2010. Eight years is too soon?
i had to look up eve online just to make damn sure it was the game i was thinking it was.
its a miracle eve online lasted 3 months, much less almost 3 years
@alidan Well, expansions are one of the many forms of on-going support. Generally they roll these things out when there're gonna be large changes in the game.
Patches and in-game events are fun, but there's a limit to how much those can achieve.
And Eve Online has been around since 2003! It's over just over 7 years old now, and still getting major updates and expansions.
FF11, not so much. The last of the 4 major expansions was in 2007. Since then they've only received 3 smaller add-on scenarios.
Eve Online has had 13 major expansions to date.
Everquest has had 17.
everquest also had far more in game support and events until luclin. up till than one of the bigger draws was people gm's would take the role as a enemy and players would over come them, and there were allot of smaller events like trying to kill a gm to gms attempting to solo mobs in the game that players couldn't take out with full guilds backing them up (mayon mistmore) and also had an accomplished end game.
this has however changed sense luclin where gms only deal with bugs now and when players have a major in game fight over shit happening. its also been for raid players mostly for a while now too, as the group content while high end, nothing changes mid game anymore, so there is very little incentive to reply the game up.
and even sense id like to say luclin (the 3th expantion) but i think it only really came into play during gates of discord, or during omens of war, where players had to aa (alternate advancement) instead of gaining levels. now back than raid took 800 aa to get into the good guilds. back than getting that much aa could take up to 3 months of playing and a year casually, and 400 was necessary for grouping.
and they kept on one upping how hard and much aa you need to be a viable character.
now they have a broken system, where aa is more important then level (a level 60 could easily go toe to toe with equally equipped level 90, and if the 60 has just 50-100aa (for level 60 its recommended to have 500, and for 90 2500minimum he will win)
the only reason this is ok and the game is still going is because most of the people have at least 1 character they can play in close to the end game.
Don't forget about World of Warcraft... pretty big support base there for all it's flaws
Are you guys broken in the head?
Eve was released in 2003. I've been playing it since late 2004.
It's been going for well over SEVEN years.
Whoever thought it was released in 2008 is a buttmonkey.
And on that note, the playerbase is still growing slowly but steadily. Year after year after year.
They must be doing something right.
EVE is pretty much the only MMO besides WoW whose subs keep increasing, and their playerbase isn't too shabby.
where are all the comments? oh, well guess it's up to me.
square = fail
take polls, listen to complaints, and know that you don't know best. that will get your subscriptions up.
And these numbers are still only while all of the players are within the two months of free-to-play period... think of what will happen to these statistics after that >:D
Bo-o-o-oring, enough said of this failure, move along citizens, move along.
P.S. Eh? Face? Square had a face worthy of saving long ago, after joining up with Enix it turned into a nasty muzzle..
All I had to think was.....people play this game?
@Anonymous(23:31 27/10/2010):
Yes they play, and it's amazing ♥ I love Final Fantasy XIV ^-^
you better be trolling, sir.
@shirou
Better luck next time, lets move onto FFXV
But its really that bad of a game?
Maybe next time they shouldnt sell the game production to china
it's CHEAPER.
We just see where cheap crap gets them.
risui
It honestly is.
honestly... Wanting to make it cheaper is never a good Idea.... How do you plan on making an awesome game if all you do ist wanting to reduce the producing cost?
Look at the other MMO makers. You need to invest something to get something. greater Investment= more Money back.
Well i know someone whos friend is really fond of FFXIV although i never really understood why...
One word, fan boy.
@sukudo (05:20 28/10/2010)
You won't understand that friend unless you actually start playing and feel that game ;) I'm Quiet fond at this game as well, as I said before, I Love This Game ♥ And for example I've been playing it today for like 10 hours ^-^
sometimes a person likes a game doesn't always mean it's a fun game for everyone. you might be just the few that enjoys the generic, static, and even overly straight forward type of mmo that was more than 3 gens of mmo ago.
and the reason for liking it could also be that you are the few meticulous players willing to spend the time into this one to be a top player and be the king.
simply put: you like it cuz your winning.
That what happen when you create too many final fantasy that isn't final at all.....
They are even less "fantasy" than they are "final". x)
why am i not surprised....*facepalm* well this is what happens when you make a shitty game your bound to get shitty results sometimes i wonder if square is doing this deliberately -_-'
I wonder if more people will stay if they made all the clothing of the females officially more...Revealing...And allowed them to have yuri couples...
In the tradition of "That" FFXI futanari doujin (which can be found in my profile), my favorite couple will forever be:
(Futa) Female Hyur x Female Lalafell
You're quite a shameless individual, you know that?
Your enthusiasm is sometimes ..... creepy.
by the way, I'm not the internet police so feel free to do so.
Not really creepy, but just tiring. Futa is only semi-gay, so it's only half as comedic as the real thing. If Azure just typed hardcore gay shit, at least that would be funny.
The majority of FF yaoi doujins are VII...
Still...Even those are relevant to my interests since I'm a fan of Vincent x Sephiroth...
@Anonymous 23:43 27/10/2010
Better to be a shameless individual than an ignorant one, I always say~
From the valleys past the Pillars of Nosgoth, to the Town of Silent Hill, to the top of Temen-ni-Gru Tower, and just past the Hakurei Shrine in Gensokyo...
I have seen it all...
From Anime Girl Asphyxiation to Sh*tting-D*ck-Nipples, to Vagina-to-Mouth Tentacle Impalement, and even buried balls deep in shota cum with a side of futa-DFC...
This Hentai Fiend...Is truly shameless~
Every topic, I shall continue to be shameless and provide some hentai relating to the topic as I can...
Every time I read something about FFXI/XIV here I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day (partly) due to this Xuchilbara guy.
Kind of like a furry who feels it necessary to remind you of their fetish at every single opportunity, not realizing that even those that are indifferent/like-minded will tend to respond poorly due to the fact said furry is BEING FUCKING ANNOYING.
Either that, or he has some kind of persecution complex.
@Anonymous 02:27 28/10/2010
Funny...Every time I see a topic about ecchi anime, I feel like that too...
All I hear is the usual perverted comments...But you don't see me complaining about it...
Hentai is hentai...
It matters not if you like DFC, asses, oppai or waki exposure...
Take it or leave it...The choice is yours to take what I have to offer...And I happen to like furry porn too...
Pokemon (shota), Sonic (both genres), and even some Halo (elite males)...
I am a Hentai Fiend of many tastes...
A connoisseur of every genre the 2D realm of anime and manga has to offer...
I offer what I have and MAKE SURE it's always RELEVANT to the topic at hand...
Besides...It's not like I am the only 'annoying' individual here in Sankaku...
I am just...Easier to spot...
Nah, you're not easier to spot. You advertise yourself. Not like I have anything bad to say.
@TehBoringOne
Haha, yes...
Then again there's porno and hentai ads on the left and right side of the articles~
@TehBoringOne
Haha, yes...
Then again there's porno and hentai ads on the left and right side of the articles~
Ugh, I fucking hate the way you type. It infuriates me more then you will ever know.
The hugely needless '...'s and '~'s mean I read it in the voice of some old man, whispering in my ear.
What is this? The official "Why you think Azure is annoying" -thread? Lol. As tbo mentioned, you advertise yourself, and I guess that both annoys and gets attention.
Now don't take this personally, but I partly agree with 11:31 regarding your way of typing. I'll add your extremely short "paragraphs" on his list. I don't get any "whispering old man" -vibes, but your posts have an air of slowness, dreaminess and... lightness... that, frankly, is a pain to read.
To be honest, the aforementioned self-advertising is the biggest turn-off, as it takes the place of any substance your posts might have, and automatically overshadows all the other stuff in your posts.
Also, on the ecchi anime part... you're the only one who commented anything about yuri/hentai on this article, save one anon. Staying on topic is one thing, but you seem to post this stuff in all your posts, at least that I've seen. Your tastes won't shock anyone in here, so it becomes really tiring when you repeat it over and over.
In a way, it's good to be unique, but it depends on what you want people to think of you. Right now you probably come across as somewhat boring. You could work on that.
Let's see whether they will release a new 'patch' to safe blunder.
I mean to cover up the blunder
Yay, Square you FAIL! >:D
Just think of how much money they spent on making this game and not getting it back lol. Spirits Within case incarnate
Ppl can't even be bothered to post comments about this game anymore..
Because Sankaku Complex is mentally retarded and cannot stop posting "Lol SE fail" news. Seriously, the people here just need to forget about this game, it's not worth picking on.
And nottin of value was lost....
ONLY THE FUCKIN TIME SQUARE ENIX SHOULD HAVE SPENT IN FF VERSUS INSTEAD OF THIS BULLSHIT MMORPG!!
Or spent in another PSP title
Or spent in a remake of FFVI or FFVIII....i can dream right?
Gross, why do you want SE to ruin good games?
or crash and burn
Fuck, never... with this square enix, better leave alone thos finlas before it get worse
Because of contract and some shit, the original square doesn't exist.
square is not square.