Square Enix Stock Price Halves in 2 Years
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Oct 24, 2010 13:33 JST
- Tags: Business, Final Fantasy, Marketing, Production Controversy, RPG, Square Enix
Square Enix watchers are busy marvelling at how Square Enix’s stock has halved in value in only 2 years.
Their stock price over the last 2 years:
The 5 year picture:
Of course, that the company is in trouble is probably by now evident to anyone who has been playing their recent games.











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See what Wada did? If they catered to the PS fanbase whilst catering to the XBox fanbase than they wouldn't be in this mess.
But what they did is neglect the PS fanbase and now they hate SquareEnix with a passion.
Everyone seems to think remaking old FF games are the way to go, but for me
who cares only for their offshoot franchises such as FF tactics. And could
not give a care about the main final fantasy games.
This is what they should do...
-The world ends with you 2
-Final Fantasy 6 remake for both the 3DS and PSP or PSP2
-New RPG IP banning Nomura from working on any part of it.
-Port Chaos Rings over to PSN and XBOX live, WTF where you thinking
when you put it on the Iphone.
-Kingdom Hearts 3 must be a launch title for next-gen systems.
and finally...
- Final Fantasy 15 needs to be the story of the Dark Warriors who brought back harmony to the world. It's the plot that setup the events for FF3 cannon.
Sticking to the old FF formula would have just resulted in even worse fortunes--look at every other JRPG this generation, they've all sold like crap except FF13. What SE needs to do is develop more quality original IPs like the "golden age" of the SNES-PS1 days when it seemed they were pumping out hit after hit. I think Enix ruined the company, and they need to get rid of their CEO and top management to get off the course of constant remakes and spinoffs and focus on more original content--of course, an FF7 remake is the exception since that would make a lot of money, but the top brass seem to be allergic to profits.
As awesome as a remake would be, everyone here, even the ff fan boys know that since FFX, the series has gone downhill to the point of no return and need to make the next game ACTUALLY GOOD! We all loved the old games cause back then, leveling up and personalization actually MEANT SOMETHING. if i wanted to watch a movie, I'd go to the movies, not play final fantasy XII or XIII!!!!!!!
This is what happens when you start making games for "everyone"... they start to get real shitty.
I would die for a ff7 remake, but I don't entirely trust Square to not fuck it up. I'd much rather they remake ff6 or Chrono Trigger first to show fans that they at least get the 'spirit' of these games. If they need to experiment with gaming and storytelling formulas, they should launch a new franchise, while repairing the FF franchise with a couple of remakes. Definitely bring back some of the old developers for the remakes and possibly future FF projects.
But I guess in order to do that they would have to get rid of their CEO or whichever people who have responsible for the bringing such disastrous games, envision a new direction for the company, and redesign their work model...pretty much start from scratch.
I think the biggest problem SE has right now is the lack of the concept "over saturation".
Seriously, how many Kingdom Hearts games do they need and on so many platforms? I won't even start with what they've done to the FF franchise. The very LAST thing I'd want to see from them is another Chrono. Not only would they flood the market with it, there's also no way they could even live up to it's name.
I'd like to see them branch out into other IPs as they're sticking to their FF bread and butter, like they used to. Bushido Blade, Front Mission, Einhander, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story... hell, Chrono Trigger/Cross was created this way and is still considered one of their best works.
You would think after The World Ends With You, they'd understand this concept. But SE probably just sees it as another franchise to milk.
where's the second chart from ?
if it's still Reuters, I can't figure out how to reproduce that graph...
Sakaguchi come back.
I've learnt that there are RPGs and JRPGs out there that are better or at least just as good as FF series during their height of achievement, so I won't be missing S-E if they get out of business next year.
FF stopped growing after X. They whitewash 'shrinking content' by using the term 'reinvent' or 'innovate' and similar bullshit, and polish what little that the newer games have into a blinding shine(graphics). Unfortunately, a glowing shit is still shit. You can pack it with colorful wraps and put ribbons on it but it's still shit. And if you don't use it as fertilizer(though EEEEW to this kind of practice in today's world), they belong in the toilet.
Faggoty fans(or S-E's PR whores...?) are eating all those up like starved dogs.
They should do DOA vs FF at the very least. Capcom have already make vs Tatsunoko, marvel (3 times) and i dont remeber if there is other one, but that shows that they character can make more money in other places. SE should bet a little in this or another things, what they can loose? besides more money that they already loose.
if they just kept things on the ps3 like they did for the ps2 then nothing would have happened
Is SE finally going under? Damn...not that I liked any of their games. But I hope Atlus or whichever company becomes the new most popular RPG maker doesn't let it go to their head and ruin them like it did SE.
the girl in pic is garnet... haha how irony
yeah, their last good FF game
how sad
FF9 was terrible. The only FF worse than 9 was 3 and that was because it had an invisible plot.
Everything from the world map to the monster design in ff9 was godawful. I give it a bit of a boost because i liked the card game. But really, even the rewards for the card game mastery were mediocre.
FF9 is my 2nd favorite game after VII and anything
about FF10 to XIII is f*cking especially XIII is the biggest shit.
FF9 was the last of the good old formula FF Games.
Anyone that actually liked FF8, and anything
about FF10 is the f*cking retard moronic twit.
AND NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST
Half of a company's stock seems more than I'll make in a lifetime though.
Final Fantasy IX
Dragon Quest (the whole damn series)
these are pretty much the pinnacle of their creative genius in those franchises
too bad their too busy fucking everything up with poor excuses for games like FFXIII and FFXIV
maybe they want to kill off the final fantasy series
the way of the jrpg is going down, starting with square enix!
FFXIV had very little to do with this.
Investors know the PS3 release will make or break FFXIV. The PC release is like a "pre-launch", and it is clearly an unfinished product (much to the lament of PC gamers).
FFXI required 200,000 subscriptions to break even and it only reached that number about 18 months after release. Investors would know not to expect much from FFXIV this early on, especially since the full release has not even occurred.
i hope to jenova Square turn around and say FU to Enix, (highly doubt it though is it's probably a partnership by now, unlike with sony) but seriously, after the final square game was made, everything went downhill, i still play FFVII for it's aweomeness, KH and FF-onwards, i dont play, purely to save myself, a few years if i'd heard this i'd have been like NOOOOOOOOOO, but now i have a bit more understanding about this stuff, they should've seen it coming, i believe there owner said there goal was "To spread happiness across the globe by providing unforgettable experiences" that time has long gone and now it's "To give the finger to happiness across the globe and line our pockets with cash" but in all honesty, i shall continue to play the decent ff games and watch the decent ff movies and hope to god they manage to redeem themselves
C'mon people they just have to do a remake of FFVII in hd and put it out just on XBL and PSN, and they be swiming in money AGAIN, then stop making crap to please the americans and do their games simpler and cheaper (no 78 minutes of theather quality CGI goes a loooong wai in cheapening production) that would be of course if they get theyr heads out of theyr asses and start listening to theyr fans
Personally, I believe all great things must come to an end. Too bad the FF series just didn't stop at FFX (which, IMHO, would've been a good place to end it). But now, they went and homo is up with an online game that's damn near impossible to solo (which some of players prefer!) Then came X-2 and XII...then that sorry excuse of a flash video game we laughingly call FFXIII.
Go back to the unlikely hero/anti-hero who's stuck in a complex romance. Quit trying to make the FF world seem overly relateable in terms of politics/social relations (it really pissed me the F off when Lightening and Snow didn't hook up nor when Vaan and Ashe didn't - though it wouldn't have saved either game) and go back to some mysterious evil wanting to destroy human/demi-human lives with the Crystals because it's a Tuesday and Fox News wasn't on and the neighborhood blacksheep/social shuttin had to step in and stop it, while winning the girl!
the only good square game is final fantasy 1, the rest are gay.
square enix has lost its touch for a few years.....
maybe they should recruit more talented people....
I can only laugh.
Shocking news.
A japanese company experiencing one of the worst recessions in the last 50 years, with tepid sales for their last couple of released products has lost share value?
Woah. Someone alert BBC imediately.
The worst hit on the stock graph was the Feb 2009 financial crisis. This was the worst financial crisis in Japanese postwar history.
Everyone from Japanese auto makers to anime studios were slammed with this and many have yet to recover. The 5-year graph shown for Square Enix is sadly typical for a post-crisis Japanese company. Recovery is slow and painful for everyone.
Now obviously they shit the bed with FFXIV, but investors are there for the long term. The have seen far more costly failures (For example, Spirits within was a legendary failure that jeopardized the Enix merger).
I wouldn't be surprised if FF14 had a similar budget to Spirits Within.
Hopefully, Parasite Eve 3 doesn't suffer miserable fate because of this 'stock price' thingie
nope, it would suffer the miserable fate of being a PSP exclusive, (if theyd go multiplatform whit DS and 3Ds it would sell 10 times more)
Safe bet that Final Fantasy XIV had something to do with this.
They should've just sold the company a while ago.
Na man the Enix merger I beleive was to save they're ass's from that movie Spirits within. Something about losing a shit load of money for it. but you know what the games started getting bad after they merged with enix. the final fantasy games were just fine, then they come out some cheap cut and past ff games with hardly any good music to go along with it which seems to me they are just not putting no thoughts into there story's anymore. There is no heart in Final Fantasy anymore, 10 was the last game I ever liked and now i will no longer buy they're games. No soul in it no more lol.
Remake FF6 1000% *FAITHFULLY* = $$$$
Remake FF7 1000% *FAITHFULLY* = $$$$
There I just solved your money problems SE.
Now, where is the ten billion dollars you
owe me for saving your sorry F*KING A$$.
Think their stock's bad? You should see how far their profits have fallen. Well, "profit" is the wrong word actually...
Their profit looks fine to me?
The fiscal year ended March 2010 saw big title releases and record earnings.
Wada
The Group achieved record results including consolidated sales of 192.2 billion yen, operating income of 28.2 billion yen and recurring income of 27.8 billion yen.
what happened at beginning of 2009 that caused the huge drop?
FINANCIAL CRISIS!!!
were u living under a rock
FINANCIAL CRISIS: Sounds liek the title of another ff7 game.
Civilized countries have already overcome that spook of a crisis. Now it's nothing but an excuse.
The bankers are already paying even bigger bonuses to the locusts.
Squenixs' stock fall is their own doing.
i believe the question was what caused the huge drop at the beginning of 2009 Mr. I know so much about economics
three words: GFC
@ Anon 22:04
Read harder. Squenix only mildly recovered because of the FF 13 hype. After that they are still on a downward trend. This is no longer the responsibility of the "crisis", it's the fault of Squenix. Easy economics.
i think he was
hum! good time to buy some stocks from them
time to buy