2ch’s Plagiarism Police Quite Amazing
- Categories: Manga, News
- Date: Oct 22, 2010 04:13 JST
- Tags: Comparison, Copyright, Photography, Plagiarism, Yaoi
Manga plagiarism seems to be getting lazier and lazier – the latest example actually succeeds in leaving watermarks on plagiarised photographs on the cover of the book itself.
However, perhaps more noteworthy than the plagiarism itself is the diligence of the people responsible for uncovering it.
The manga in question is 隗ヨリヒトカイヨリ式 / Kaiyorihitokaiyorishiki, by Kazuaki – a relatively obscure BL title.
Some analysis of the manga’s cover finds it to be using copyrighted photography:
Here the watermark from the original image is actually left as part of the book’s cover… Removing the shadows was also apparently too much effort.
The cover in use as signage:
The publisher has already apologised and withdrawn the title – however, with the original publication date being 2007, the damage (such as it is) is done.
As ever, the shamelessness of the plagiarists is matched only by the amazing rigour of 2ch’s plagiarism police – 2ch’s crowning achievement:



















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I guess they have to amuse themselves somehow.
more like they have absolutely no life.
Yeah, I want to say this is some mad detective skills at work but...
Anyone who can figure this stuff out(to this degree) hasn't much of a life at all.
If only such interest was directed into more productive ventures...
IT era - when using a model for art becomes a crime.
2ch can spot character cameos smaller than a cm in brief background scenes in their favorite anime. No life doesn't begin to describe.
God damnit, finally the word 'plagiarism' is used correctly at least in the case of the watermarked picture. But the rest of it IS NOT PLAGIARISM! THIS IS REFERENCE! Yes some of them may be tracing, and that's very frowned upon, but for fuck's sake, why are people only NOW giving attention to things artists have done for centuries, up to and including the google image search era. There's nothing new happening now. If nothing else, 2ch is slow as fuck in realizing what the business requires and completely misrepresenting it.
Characters are different of course, since those are actually designed for another story, but these are real life structures and creations that are being emulated and imitated in the stories by people who need this reference for accuracy. Some of it's laziness, some of it is time crunch, etc.
The cover in the OP however is inexcusable. At least they could have PURCHASED the picture, since it's apparently a stock photo anyway and that's what they're meant to be used for in the first place.
If you call it detective work, then I'd name it STALKING.
ya know, I wish they'd just become ACTUAL detectives. They'd be thousands of times better than any of the current force, and really, physical crimes would go down to like 1% of their current levels.
2ch's plagiarist police would make every murder case seem as easy as cake to solve. One look at the crime scene and three hours of web surfing and they'd get the perp.
CSI: 2CH
"A man was found hanging naked on an egg farm."
Horatio: Looks like he was a real Hen-Tie.
Oh Ghost Dog. I love the 'so dumb it's funny' puns. + for you.
"YEAHHHHHHH!"
the artist can trolling all of those fucking detective with saying "i bought the picture, it's not plagiarism you faggots"
end of story
They have way too much free time. I'd love to get some.
Do you realize they most probably using some software that searches the web for pictures and compares them pixel by pixel (or whatever thechnology they use). I'm pretty sure it is not done by hand.
yea, they're probably using google's "similiar image" tool.
Or they use automated tools. There are algorithms that are capable of recognizing and matching similar looking shapes.
Who the hell thumbed you down bro? Must be some stupid lame shmuck
Indeed...This is just referencing background scenarios and backdrops...
Anime, games, movies, and mangas have been doing it for a long time before I was even born...
REFERENCING and PLAGIARISM are not one and the same...
I'd venture a guess and say many if not most of the "OMFG PLAGIARISM!" threads on 2ch (that ends up as sancon articles) follow something along the lines of:
1. Someone finds something that's actually plagiarism and posts it.
2. Post get attention and people start trashtalking the author.
3. People start searching for more plagiarism by the same author, gets drawn into the mob mentality and start posting stuff that's in no way plagiarism.
4. More and more people want to "contribute" and quickly it spirals into "OMG PLAGIARMS! I FOUND A PHOTO OF A GIRL SITTING ON A CHAIR IN SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM! AND THERES A GIRL SITTING ON A CHAIR IN SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM IN THIS MANGA! TOTAL PLAGIARISM!!!!".
At least that's the conclusion I draw from most of these "2ch finds plagiarism"-articles here, since 90-95% of the "examples" given in those articles usually isn't even close to plagiarism, instead mostly being examples of that there are some poses that are quite common.
This is not plagiarism at all.
Cut from Wiki:
Similarly, in storytelling and literature, it is a practice common to all the major authors, to copy from parts of other works and transpose them in their own world. The value attributed to originality is also culturally contigent; some societies, like the one at the time of Shakespeare, instead used to appreciate more the similarity with an admired classical work, like in the case of Shakespeare's rewriting of Plautus' Menaechmi for The Comedy of Errors.[5] Unlike in the academia world, in which references are expected to be cited explicitly and precisely, in literature they are usually not revealed or kept implicit.
If this is plagiarism might as well put the whole stock and barrel of anime in.
I'm about 90% sure 004 isn't the right one.
@Anonymous above me
*thumbs up and nods in agreement*
I agree with some of the anonymous statements here. Using the copyrighted pictures on the covers directly is plagiarism. But, these "detectives" don't know the difference between plagiarism and reference.
Yea... And what's the freaking problem if they wanna use real scenery as their inspiration? What if they draw awesomely well and can reproduce the places perfectly? Jesus, go sodomize yourselves with the copyright laws and just leave it alone.
Copyright is evil, copyright kills creativity, copyright must die.
In time: I still think it's some epic skillz there, takes a lot of work and observation. Still, copyright must die... LOL
Drawing good with no reference is creative. Drawing with reference is creative. Copying images is not creative. You don't understand the meaning of creativity.
Epic 2ch is epic!
Not today.
Fail, 2Ch is fail, more like.
when an hand drawn picture resembles reality it's nothing to get excited about.
"OMG!!! the stairwell looks so much like one in real life!!!!"
go figure. it's when one artist rips off another artist that it is amusing to poke fun at them.
They're sick!!!
They're miserable. They can only be compared to disease causing bacteria or vermin.
Well, they certainly are dedicated.
Dedicated to destroying work of those who succeded more than they ever may wish. They're miserable indeed.
if i ever need to spy somebody out
2ch if friggin hired
@soyokaze
"Dedicated to destroying work of those who succeded more than they ever may wish."
Only if you consider stealing and making money off it a 'success' I guess.
How exactly did they destroy any work?
All they're saying is that someone copied his imagery. This also happens to be the truth.
The work obviously isn't destroyed - it's still there. We just learned who actually did it, and who didn't, that's all.
If anything has been destroyed, it's an undeserved reputation. Well, cry me a river.
A lot of artist actually do this. The issue here is the clip art still has a watermark which means the artist probably did not pay for printing or usage rights.
How can they uncover so many.. that's amazing. It's not like you can just google image search for "japanese house" and the photos comes up (unless the plagarists really were THAT lazy..).
2ch never ceases to amaze me.
Indeed.
they probably just run some filter over the picture or a bitmap to vector conversion...they could at least remove those shadows, lol at that watermark :)
but still no one got hurt
What's rare? Moonspeak for "good sauce"?
I'm certainly impressed with these guys' research, they should apply at their local police stations. Maybe some of them already work there.
Can't fap to any of that.
Try harder!
I tried, and it fell off :O
Put it in ice and go to a hospital! it can still be recovered if you hurry!
naw, don't worry, I had another one.
2chan=bitch at every little thing to justify their no-life-ness (just my opinion)
i say fuck it just another case of sheer coincidence
So you condone plagiarism?