Thousands of Japanese Encircle Chinese Embassy

Like children arguing, the only ones to truly suffer are the onlookers caught in the chaos.

Is china able to do anything the grown up way theese days? They're cutting off their trade and diplomatic relations with whoever is messing with them. (or doing anything they dislike...)

Soon all the other countries with lots of children will be the big production companies in the world, not china. Yet they believe that if they don't sell to a country that country will go bankrupt.

I stand on the Chinese side, it is after all, a reason why they call it the South China Sea, and certainly a nation so much older, been through so many generations and as many eons of civilization and yes, strictly speaking: the ancestors of today's Japanese clearly has this island under their names. In fact, if you think about it clearly, it isn't the first time China has been exploited of its lands. The English took Hong Kong away in history for example, if a nation wishes to take advantage of Chinese land, rightfully belonging to a nation so much older and should as a nation be respected as any other, then the Chinese have the right to stand up against such claims. I would not be surprised that the Chinese have long discovered those islands and call it Diao Yu Dao before the Japanese 'claimed' them. Then again, I am sure both sides are simply interested in what potential resources they can get on that rock. After all, land is scarce these days.

Japan should give up tho, I don't see them winning this debacle.

lol wut?

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Several Chinese residents of Japan actually attempted to violently block the demonstration with placards accusing the demonstrations of fomenting discrimination against Chinese living in Japan (apparently ignoring their own government’s role in this, in the best of Chinese traditions)

Of course, if my government screws up, I - who has been living in a foreign country since childhood with no ties to it - need to be flogged openly for it. Makes perfectly sense to me, haha.

what are you talking about, the portuguese where the kings of the sea in the time, go get educated [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal.]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal.

They even stole Formosa from us and now its Taiwan ...

People really need to have a read into the history. Who actually own the island has been an argument with Japan's word against China and Taiwan for centuries. The Japanese believe the islands are theirs because the US completely ignoring China and Taiwan's protests and claims over the island back in the days, and handed the island's authority/control along with the Okinawa to Japan...

Clearly the Japanese don't bloody care about the island, they are just pissed because they feel shamed with their own government apologising to China and using the "invasion of Japanese territory" as an excuse to rage at China. It has nothing to do with who's right and wrong here...it's all about ego, and yet they making it sounds like their nation has became a victim of invasion, and those few Chinese fishermen reaching those remote islands is going to mean the life and death of their entire nation.

I want to side with Japan...I really do, but they are now just acting like a bunch of crybabies and thugs. If anything, they should take it up with their own government...it's like their eroge companies blaming foreigners for the problems they are having, when it is their own government and politicians fucking them up their ass.

What do you think the government's by now.

I wonder if the Gundams have finished construction

"...a reason why they call it the South China Sea, and certainly a nation so much older, been through so many generations..."

By your logic, The gulf of Mexico and everything in, above or under it should also be property of Mexico alone. That includes the oil being pumped out by American oiling platforms.

And the Sea of Japan is property of Japan only. Bye bye Korean and Russian fishers!.

Lastly, China is a geographical region of the world that has been divided into many smaller countries or been part of other empires for much of its history. The country that occupies this region today is "The People's Republic of China", and this nation has only been around since 1949. In contrast, Japan was founded in 660 BC and it has always been a sovereign country. Therefore and by your own logic, the Japanese have the "right of ancestry" over the chinese's claims.

and arm yourselves for WORLD WAR III

Kill the chinese government with swift and precise attacks to prevent WW III. We have cruise missiles, what the hell are we waiting for? For them to start dropping nukes?

If you notice, the Chinese people are rather patriotic, but seeing as their own government overthrew the past one, this government has no more say in the territory than the Japanese. For the most part, they even are attempting to usurp the Islands in the Okinawan area which are POPULATED by Japanese people.

While Hong Kong was understandable, this is ridiculous.

as always, shrobby's anti-china sentiments overrides his logic and credibility. such an intelligent way to solve the problem - nukes.

back to the cold war era are we? sigh, idiots never learn i guess.

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To be fair, Schrobby said to use cruise missile before THEY start dropping nukes. Either way, any military action here will end so insanely badly, the 200,000 civilians dead at Hiroshima in WWII would be a drop in the bucket compared to the innocent lives that will be lost on both sides, especially if the U.S. actually honors its treaty with Japan.

The U.S. needs to step in here and show China how world superpowers are supposed to act (although we haven't been setting good examples lately, either). China will not back down on its own. They don't have it in their national culture to take the peaceful route, if it means losing any face. If the U.S. doesn't get in and start to defuse this, this could turn into a literal bomb that will end in the deaths of many innocent people.

who said anything bout cold war
its gonna be fucking hot WORLD WAR III
finally time to kill some people legally

lover international tensions
its just some news today
the next morning u wake up
WWIII has started

I think the main downside of Schrobby's plain is that the Chinese could have put a Dead Man's Switch on their nukes. And then we would be royally screwed.
I think the most sensible thing to do now would be to encourage companies who want to sell their stuff here, to employ their cheap labour outside of China (India perhaps?) for example using lower taxation rates and such.

i say, take it and gooo ╮(￣▽￣")╭
Can we stop arguing over a piece of rock already? Both side's government has problems, no country is perfect for that matter.

Exactly. All this is is useless country pride. One country showing the other that they have a bigger penis than the other.

We got homeless people and people without food all over the world but oh no someone trying to steal my rock o_o. Must protest! Both China and Japan are stupid in this case.

It should be obvious by now that China and Japan are using the Senkaku incident as an excuse to talk dirty at each other like they always wanted to. I doubt those extremists really care about the islands themselves.

"...Kill the chinese government with swift and precise attacks to prevent WW III..."

And make martyrs out of them so the people idolize them and turn 1.3 billion people against the world? Have we learned nothing from old world history?

WWIII wont' happen now. Sooner or later the U.S. will intervene to defend Japan from bellic conflict, as is their obligation dictated in the treaties signed after WWII. China will yield to the U.S. because they can't lose their most important trading partner whose patronage funds the weapons they produce/buy from the russians.

Honestly though, The U.S. or the U.N will probably intervene before a declaration of war.

If you(as a politician) are against a very unreasonable and violent civilization (China), it would be plausible that they would act that way since China is armed to the teeth and has a large population. Japan would disappear in a day while America (Its supposed ally) debates on what to do.

If they would actually have some sort of military superweapon/countermeasure, I'd think they would bitchslap China without a second thought.

CONCLUSION:

LET JAPAN HAVE A DAMN ARMY ALREADY, USA!
(not JSDF)

If I were a leading japanese politician Japan would have a huge pile of tactical nukes mounted on rockets pointing at every single interesting military installation and government building in China.

You can be assured that China, knowing this, would long since have stopped their aggressive moves against Japan. Possible mutual annihilation worked for USA/Russia, it would work for Japan/China just as well.

It wouldn't stop them, it would just make their moves more subtle. Even with thousands of US nukes pointed at them the USSR didn't stop antagonizing the US. Their efforts were just harder to detect and generally involved proxy wars and the like.

The Cuban Missile Crisis was certainly a blatant move for the USSR to make when it had so many nukes pointed at it. Not to mention, no nation with even moderately intelligent leaders, corrupt or not, actually want to use nukes. They are the stupidest weapon because any extensive use will kill not just your enemy but you as well, in addition to so much else.

All that aside, a new cold war would probably do wonders for spurning technological innovation though, so bring it on! I want GUNDAMS!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it just me, or has anyone noticed how Asian politics has been messed up and fucked over for the last idk, how many years? I haven't actually heard of any Asian governments being at peace and agreed with by the population in a while. I don't quite see this happening so much in the US/anywhere else, interestingly enough...

US and Middle East, Israel there you go.

i bet japan can install an army equal to US army if the US let them
LET THEM HAVE THE GODDAMN ARMY !!!
time for some action

There isn't a single country right now that has been getting along perfectly with it's people, the U.S. All of the EU and Asia all face the same problems. The lies governments have spread over the centuries are finally catching up to them and the current governments are having a hard time explaining them/covering them up with new lies. Politicians act out of self interest first their benefactors second and their people third. It has always been this way and probably always will be, they are human after all.

"Or in other words, the japanese politicians arse lick the chinese politicians"

And what exactly do you think international diplomacy is about? I lick your ass today and you'll lick mine tomorrow.

"You can be assured that China, knowing this, would long since have stopped their aggressive moves against Japan"

Exactly like when the U.S. found out about the russian nukes in Cuba pointing at American cities, right? The U.S. stopped their agression towards Russia [or viceversa], right?. Seriously Schrobby, you need to read some more about world history.

"They are the stupidest weapon because any extensive use will kill not just your enemy but you as well"

Actually, some of the last nukes tested by the USSR during the cold war were 95% clean. That means only 5% of radioactive fallout. I'm pretty sure 100% clean nukes are a possibility with today's technology.

Yeah, that might have worked in China's last botched attempt to conquer Japan way back in the Feudal-ages, but nowadays Ships aren't wind-powered anymore :P

U mean, Chinese people come to the seaside and pee on the water and hope they will drown Japan ?
They would polluted the Earth environment and being arrested.
I would like to spray MG on the line of people peeing on the sea.

Uh huh... so where exactly do you think your faeces gets flushed to after you visit the toilet?

Yes they did, they apologized numerous times and pay compensation to both China and Korea as required by the Potsdam Declaration.

Potsdam Declaration.

These documents means nothing more than an "official" record of a "defeat" in terms of the war.

The Japs, in mind, and their heart, haven't apologized yet (but I'm not say'n no one has done it, I'm talking about the majority), for all I know that some of them still believe that they didn't try to take on the entire Asia and the Pacific. Calling all the military involvements in WWII "Defensive actions against foreign invasion".

My ass.

oh now u can read other people minds now huh?wat are u?esper?china made?

Have you ever even bothered to read up on history at all? or do you think your mind reading powers are more than enough to determine 'the truth'? What would you do if someone put a gun on your head telling you to shoot someone else? You would shoot to save your own ass, even if you knew that in response there would be 10 bullets coming back. All countries on the face of this earth have committed their own war atrocities. 90% of the people who were involved with WWII are probably dead, yet you desperately seek an apology from people who have nothing to do with it? It's time to wake up, WWII is OVER everyone has cut their losses and moved on, scars remain for sure but there is no reason AT ALL to keep bitching about it.

Welcome to the internet.