90% of Japanese Now Agree: “China Cannot Be Trusted”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Oct 2, 2010 23:24 JST
- Tags: China, Crime, Military, Okinawa, Politics, Senkaku Complex, Statistics, Taiwan
China’s efforts to intimidate Japan into submission have seen such trust of China as there is amongst the Japanese collapse, with as many as 90% of Japanese surveyed saying China cannot be trusted.
The latest surveys of public opinion indicate China’s recent efforts to seize the Senkaku Islands have had the unsurprising effect of substantially hardening public opinion against China – 87% of Japanese men in their twenties now agree “China cannot be trusted,” up from 80%.
Women are just as suspicious of Chinese intentions – 91.8% of women in their forties, the highest, also feel China cannot be trusted, and even amongst women in their twenties 84% agree.
The results also indicate Japanese are becoming concerned by their weakness, especially the younger generations – as many as 94.2% of Japanese men in their twenties now agree that “Japan’s image as a being a nation that will succumb to pressure is a concern.”
Amongst Japanese, concern about China’s aggression also appears to be crystallising into concern about the current pro-Chinese stance of their own government.
The latest incident, in which senior government figures made the highly suspect blunder of referring to the presence of Chinese ships in the area with the honorifics usually reserved for dignitaries, convinced many that the Democratic party’s worshipful attitude to China is incorrigible – now over 90% of men in their thirties agree that the government’s foreign policy is “spineless.”
Across all the generations, the incident has caused many to think their “alliance” with the USA must be strengthened; 39.1% think the alliance should be strengthened, whilst 41.9% consider the status quo adequate. Most support is concentrated amongst younger generations of men – 48.9% and 46.4% of men in their thirties and twenties want a stronger alliance.
Younger generations were particularly likely to admit the importance of relations with China – 95.7% of men in their twenties and 92% of women in their thirties agreed China “is important to Japan’s economy,” displaying a surprising amount of awareness of just who their largest trading partner is.
Where the regions are concerned, the most concerned were the inhabitants of Kyushu, closest to China and the Senkaku Islands. 51.3% agreed that “troops should be stationed on the Senkaku Islands,” higher than anywhere else. 76.1% agreed that “China is a nation which threatens the safety of Japan” and 81.4% that “the issue will continue to poison relations between China and Japan.”
With public opinion now firmly against China, it seems the only thing sustaining Japan’s supine position with regards to China is the Democratic Party of Japan’s substantial Sinophile wing and the short-sighted desperation of the extremely powerful Keidanren (Japan Business Federation) to protect their Chinese investments – one of the few Japanese organisations left which unreservedly supports the appeasement of China.









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I thought that the whole Japan already agreed that China couldn't be trusted, when they surpassed Japan's economy! But I was wrong o.0
China is beggin for a war!
I hope it happens, the world needs more action and China needs to be taught a lesson!
*Evil Snicker, while petting a cat*
World War 3 is soon my dear, soon...
Chinese RAPE Japanese
Finally Japan seems to grow a spine. Now start building nukes, show China the middle finger and tell the fags who demand a loli ban to shove those demands where the sun never shines.
china will win this through sheer mass of cheap units.
they'll simply swarm japan
You mean Chinalings vs Japalots?
@Schrobby
growing a spine = begging America for help, wagging their tail in submissive posture?
Oh, and on another note, this whole issue is a farce. Both China and Japan are using it to most likely evade the real problems in each respective country.
German media has been quite neutral in this regard, saying that the chinese fisherboat rammed the japanese military vessel, but it might've been doing it while on the run. And adding that no conclusion can be drawn since the japanese government is withholding the tapes of the whole incidence.
The guy organizing the protests in Japan would stop the tail wagging really fast, which would be good.
Japan evades nothing as it obviously suppresses media coverage. China evades nothing as well, they just want the oil near the islands.
Who cares about government controlled german media? The chinese fisherboat rammed a japanese military vessel in japanese waters. Whatever the reason, this qualifies as an act of war. That some China loving fags in the japanese government withhold the tapes only makes it worse.
why dont they just both fricking get over it?
@Anonymous above me
I wish...But China is just using the boating incident as a scapegoat to start sh*t with Japan...
Ugh...If they go to war, I hope no anime/hentai artists and cute girls and lolis die in the conflict...
@Schrobby: It's actually not about the oil, but the strategic significance (for all 3 parties involved). While I'm pretty sure none of the parties actually WANT a war (it's gonna cost too much because they're all too powerful), if one does break out, having control of the islands will confer a significant strategic and logistical advantage.
@Schrobby
Normally, if a small fisher boat collides with a big military vessel, who would you think started the aggression?
Did the fishermen on the fishing boat want to intimidate the soldiers with their nets and fish? Or maybe did the military vessel want to intimidate the fishermen with their guns?
Add in the fact that the military vessel filmed everything standardly and the government is withholding the tapes while everything is going apeshit around them makes everything very suspicious to me.
Bottom line: there is too little information to form a solid opinion on anything. While Japan is generally more trustworthy than China, how they are handling everything does rouse some suspicion.
More trustworthy except in conflicts between Japan - China or Japan - Korea, because then each party would gladly lie their asses off to make the other look bad.
how many agreed before this? 80%? I mean its really hard to trust China...
@Schrobby: You are either a troll or an idiot. Both of these are not needed in a discussion like this.
no those islands arent worth crap. Its the OCEAN AREA that owning those islands give. China actually loses a ton of their national waters to Japan (since their so dam close). This island will seal the deal on who controls the ocean near eastern China.
Haha, only Japan is suffering here. I mean Japan's economy right now is doing so terrible, and they need China's tourism bad. This argument has only helped both China and Hong Kong in canceling all their vacations in Japan and moving on to some other country. Statistics show that on average Chinese people spend 7,100 US dollars per trip, Japan can just have fun and continue sulking in their economy.
anon@07:03 Starting to call names because you lack arguments sure make you a better person. ^_^
USA will rape those 2 country.
To bad they are a bit preoccupied with Afghanistan right? Look, if the US can't even "rape" Afghanistan and (back in the day)Vietnam, I don't see much success with China.
China is a conventional military that will use conventional tactics. The US is having trouble in Afghanistan because the fighting there should be a police action, not an invasion and occupation of the country. The Chinese wouldn't do too well against the best conventional military in the world, probably with the support of Nato.
the chinese r weird okay? they should never be trust NEVER.1) they copy the kamikaze of japan2) they have big azz population = big ass army 3)they got nukes 4) there war hungry they fight till there all gone 5) going 2 war is dumb the economy is in the dumps go 2 war were all fked
6)if the usa gos 2 war with china russia will step in with whut ever excuse they got and try 2 fk up USA cause they have a long history 7) north Korea is nuthing with out chinese backing so china will be all like hey korea if i fall u fall >.> help us out
@lovelaruku
no, US wont, US army might hold but as a nation it will crumble under the financial difficulties. (China got the US by their (golden) balls)
next, IF a war EVER does start, it will very much be one sided for the Japanese, who poses no threat to China, and is about as useful as a squadron of an US army. And when the nukes starts flying. guess who eats shit. (the whole earth!!!!!!)
Only that china has good chances of winning said war. Think about it - which country (that matters) doesn't have some chinese in it?
EDIT: WWIII will happen around 2012 to 2014. Blame US VS iran.
having chinese and having chinese that support china are 2 different matters
If you think Chinese-Americans are suddenly gonna turn against America en masse in the event of a war, then you have issues regarding your sense of logic.
I'm pretty confident their counter-parts in other nations are equally disgusted at their current attitude.
I, for one, am revolted and ashamed of my own roots...
I am Chinese and I am extremely ashamed of China. All others I know of are, as well.
Deport them to China if they love it that much.
I don't know but I think having a war may be impossible. They should have learned by now that war results in nothing but both side loosing and many people dying. And I bet the war is gonna last only a second with everyone firing their A-bombs. Japan doesn't have an offensive army(they have a tiny army for the purpose of defense only), America is promoting peace between Iraq and Israel and I bet Europe want nothing to do with war. So I really doubt that there will be a war cause the the big guns are out.
It's a pity that Japan can't do anything against China but I would seriously like to see China regret their actions again Japan. They are too bloody arrogant. If this continues, their next victim in harassment will most definitely be America. Seriously, I'm not joking.
Chinese americans I could say are excluded from such a stance (or in better words, couldn't care less). Or any other foreign born Chinese. It doesn't equate to what support could be had from immigrated Chinese.
But that doesn't matter anyhow.
Japan noticed that China can't be trusted. Now they just have to deport Agnes-chan. ^_^
>>They should have learned by now that war results in nothing but both side loosing and many people dying. <<
They sure learned war is profitable. US are doing it in iran right about now. The media calls it "promoting peace" and the likes and american schools won't teach their students geography of the world, so they won't notice where in the world they are making a mess.
Also, all chinese have two faces.
You're ignorant if you think war doesn't move things. America sure as hell isn't a nation of angels, but don't talk like you know enough about it to have an opinion.
Tell me what the hell can you do if there is gonna be a war today? A flip of a switch and half the world is blown to hell. So how profitable is that? Money spent on weapons and not onto the benefit of your own country is a stupid mistake that anyone that has decent knowledge in history will avoid(I guess this is probably the other thing that they don't teach in schools in America too, huh? Please,nowadays everyone have internet and getting information is as easy as clicking a mouse). What I am saying is if they are promoting peace and then they were to have war with any country, they will be viewed as hypocrites therefore other countries will lose trust in them(especially Iraq and Israel). Maybe war will happen. But at least I know if it does happen it is because of people with the mentality that war can move and solve things. Thanks a lot.
Looks like he knows more than about 90% of the population of USA, I'd say that that gives him more than enough right to have a opinion on the matter... Especially seeing how he's right on spot, if USA hadn't made such a big mess of their Iraq invasion USA would already be in Iran.
if u think about it if china wasnt all focused on mialtary and shit they could fix there economy along time ago and go green im for real they had alot of time
Yes, eventually it will be "Red Dawn" 'cept with the Chinese invading this time.
Lol, and with all of the world's largest and most powerful corporations having deep ties with China (many of which include top Japanese companies such as Sony, by the way), who do you think would win? Not that a war would happen anyways - this is the information age, the wars that are occurring nowadays are all superpower nations bullying or invading countries with no economic resourcefulness or profit. The last time a real superpower fought against another superpower was over 70 years ago, when international trade and businesses were a lot less prevalent compared to today.
first make everyone dependent of you, then blackmail them if they don't buckle. typical.
china's showing their real face now, maybe someone starts opening their eyes?
not that the alternatives would be so much better. if you outsource to india instead, you'll be in the same position sooner or later, i'm sure.
Kinda sad seeing the ignorant hillbilly go "We should nuke China!", "gotta teach those Chinese a lesson! Lets nuke em!", "China will start the 3rd world war!", etc. Really shows how little some people know about the world.
A war with China won't happen, for same reason USA and Soviet didn't go face to face during the cold war - nukes. You don't start throwing punches at someone who has the power to drop a nuke on any of your cities at any given moment.
China has that power, you nuke Bejing, they nuke New York. Still sounds like a good idea to nuke them?
agreed there nuke bases arnt in bejing >.> and if they see there gonna lose im 99% sure they gonna fire nukes at random targets and mostly at USA so u hillbillys want a nuke falling on ur farm? hey ma pa thers a magic star falling
"China is beggin for a war!
I hope it happens, the world needs more action and China needs to be taught a lesson!"
i seconded this motion ^.^ lets do it!
China = Mordor
North Korea = Isengard
"China = Mordor"
Suddenly, everything made sense.
The mass breeding,
The will to serve as one,
The Great Wall of Mordor!
And Obama became Aragorn with that statement...
Except Aragorn wasn't evil...
@ Yoshii-kun
Don't forget the dark smog covering the sky, the highly polluted landscape and
the urge to conquer the world.
Funny, as soon as china expand its borders, so does the smog.
90% of the Japanese don't trust China? Are there still that many idiots? That should be 100%.
That 10% might be those North-Korean communities and other radical pro-china groups.
But all in good time, Schrobby.
All in good time....
Or maybe those 10% are not sheep. Like people ITT.
because 90% of the japs are retarded like you and wants to war with china and get either bitch slapped or having americans take over their country as a method of foreign support
LOL If Japans going to war with China their pretty much asking for a beating.
shrobby's always blinded by his rage against china, reading his ignorant posts is amusing as always.
tbh, japan can hold protest and hate china as much as they want, but i don't see how that can change things.
we still live in a capitalist society aka unless you got money, have fun with all talk no action.
china wars with japan jap lose china ask for shit and whut not china vs japan usa and sum other countrys that wanna help well than u ppl might wanna buy a nuke fallout base
china & norht korea vs usa japn and others move 2 canada or sumthing u got the huge armys goign agaisnt each other it aint gonna be pretty
Yeah, war is the answer! Let's go kill some Chinese women and kids in their homes. That'll teach 'em. (/end sarcasm, hopefully with the same amount as in the original post).
Never mind that the only country that has anywhere near the military power to stand up to China is currently hip-deep in two theaters already, neither of which near China.
Plus, I'm guessing that war is exactly what the Chinese government wants. They get to use their toys, cull out their population (with the most politically inconvenient going first), support their government contractors, and get the territorial expansion they so desire by force.
You realize that Afghanistan's eastern border is shared with China, right?
Either way, there's too many retard posts here. Wars are never about who wins. It's about whether or not the loser will settle with their defeat. And with the Chinese mentality right now of "we can't lose anything anymore," no country can decisively win against China.
well if u wanna change the mind of china support the anti communist group in america :O
Yes,there may have a war.
not soon after we China can't keep a fast developing with peace.The citizens now are disappointed the government's weakness in regain the land been taken over by others.Then there will a war to tell other of the world we are back and we will return to our stage that we stayed for thousands of years.
China it not satisfied about what it is now.
I don't like war,but if it can not avoid,I'l not escape.
what's more.The only thing China had learnt from 1860 and the hundreds of years after it is that If you fail behind other country,you'l no doubt be beat.Just like you got in and occupy our land,burnt our city and kill our people.Those things will never forget.
The Mandarin has return he is going to kill us all!
chian was doing fine be4 erupoe was all big and tuff but than sum retart said stop the naval revoulution in china and close all the border thats when it fell behind back than china was equally as strong as the roman empire cept china didnt fall apart but instead remained intact just different rulers
You are an idiot.
how strange people here are, they talk about war talk about some one asked for an apologies, but they never talk about the historical incident that causing this issue.
they are more likely to start a war, using violence to solve every problems they encountered, this make they such a uncivilized race and a loser in wwii.
Forgive them. Young ppl you konw. Always react and follow what other ppl tell them, never even bother to get to the reasons and truth.
I think the most strange thing is that somehow people are managing to hold both the possition that:
China will start the 3rd World War!
and
We should nuke China to the stoneages to teach them a lesson!
I mean, do no one see the irony in those two statements?
lol, dont forget japan has no army since WW2.
thats whut i keep saying
I say Japan should tell the Chinese government to f*ck themselves with the demands and give back their islands and those 4 people that the latter wants to execute...
@Abel Liegod
I don't care if China want to go to war..!
If this affects the next Comiket, or production of new anime/anime seasons...
I...Don't even want to think about it...
You do realize.. that if China goes to war, North Korea will sure as hell go to war. That's a clusterfuck right there considering those two are allies. Compared to China, if china is begging for war then North Korea would be demanding it.
oh yeah than it sucks to live in south korea
If China needs a lesson, I doubt japan is gonna teach it to them.
If the war starts, Japan's not going to win...
yeah i mean what is japan going to do
hahahaha what are the japs going to do sell the chinese porn or have cosplay girls slow our advancement to japan i will love seeing my chinese flag on top of your fucking building
before u Zerg can land, your ships can kiss the bottom of the sea, lol. Don't think Uncle Sam will just stand and watch if any of Zerg land on Japan soil.
hahahaha so what if japan has nukes. i am korean by the way and i going to see on the news KBSW how you fucking japs fail in this because your troops are made of anime loving nerds
well it is possible since nk is probably secretly going to join china just like how china support nk long time ago.
Ignorant little waste of space.
War won't do any good. The last paragraph says everything. The issue is economic. Stop buying Chinese products and they are history.
Problem here is that the world Governments are absurdly hypocritical. They'll lick the Chinese Government balls as long as the big money generating business can go there and use children and semi-slaves to produce low costing stuff to sell elsewhere.
The good news is that China will be crushed under it's own weight, specially if you consider environment. The bad news is that it's gonna take a while and it'll poison the world even more in the process. Unless obviously we, who are very displeased with the Chinese Government behavior, stop buying made in China stuff and bring them down first. It's up to us.
You need a lesson or two too )
why?but I think the chance of war is tiny
Can't blame all its citizens just because its government is fucked up.
Are you a moron? if a war happens in Japan, the whole country will be affected since they are too close with China, the Anime/Video Games/Manga Industry will be affected as well and maybe they'll stop producing that for awhile and canceling projects too, if somebody has to take out China, would be USA OR Russia and they won't be affected like Japan
note china will not win that war but the after math for every country in ti will be bad >.> u have 2 admit they have a huge population remeber there communist and i think will forces civies in2 army in war o e even though there weak 1million of them can still be trouble o-o they also have nukes and im pretty sure there dieing 2 use them
hey man fuck you ,you sucker ,you need a lesson ,
I hope this will not affect the next Comiket or anything related to anime...
The last thing we need is for the Japanese government to pull anime/hentai artists into a draft...
I shudder at the thought of war...Even though I am a Guro Fiend, hentai is my top priority and the safety of the people making it...
Whatever it may be...Hatred, resources...
I hope the war doesn't happen between Japan and China...And they come to an agreement of sorts...
I love my hentai and anime lifestyle...
I thought they already thought China couldn't be trusted way before this.
They haven't surpassed their economy so much as they're completely in control of it.
sound like japan CAN be trusted, based on all the reliable infos you get from 2ch