The Final Fantasy XIV Collector’s Edition is proving that things can indeed still get worse for Square Enix – fans have found the included “tumbler” to be encrusted with mould, and the safety instructions reveal the tumbler cannot be filled with most liquids or solids without risk of damage.


In addition to the rotting exterior there is the matter of the product being unsuitable for containing much more than mouldy air:


Do not fill the product with the following materials as they may cause damage:

Items including salt and solid materials, carbonated beverages, milk or other dairy beverages, fruit juices, etc.

A glass which cannot be filled with either solids or liquids (it is not clear whether gases “may cause damage” as well) – possibly a contender for the prize of most useless container ever.

A tumbler is normally defined as “a flat-bottomed drinking glass” – just what it is users are supposed to be able to drink from the vessel in light of the above restrictions is not clear, although it is possible Square Enix was banking on the mould taking care of this problem.

A glass which cannot be drunk from and a game which cannot be played – Square Enix is certainly breaking new ground.


And all are made in China?

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    Comment by Anonymous
    04:35 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "just what it is users are supposed to be able to drink from the vessel in light of the above restrictions"


    Comment by Anonymous
    05:31 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Now it makes sense.

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    Comment by SpideyPHL
    07:00 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Usual SC trolling about FF, with some added anti-Chinese stuff added in for flavor. I'd be interested in finding anyone who doesn't own anything that was made in China. Of course the comments aren't much better, I'm so sick and tired of the so called old school "I was into FF before it sold out with VII/X/XII" idiots who make scene kids look positively mature.

    That's not to say FFXIV is a necessarily good game. As it is it's got a lot of problems that I can only hope are fixed by the time the PS3 version comes out. Still, even as it is it's still better than a lot of other MMOs I've played. Despite the constant bitching and hyperbole from the "fans", I've yet to play an FF game that was really bad, but I've played some that were mediocre and many that were overrated (FF6 comes to mind on that front, followed closely by 7 and 9). And I agree that as a company Square was much better before Enix got involved and they started pumping out metric tons of remakes, but saying FF is dead or even injured just shows complete ignorance of actual business figures in favor of childish bitching, and XIII shows that if anything they're more willing to try new things in the mainline games than they were in previous generatons.

    Well, this is the internet so I shouldn't be surprised.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:36 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    SO...? Aren't your PC components, Xbox360, PS3, iPhones and all those stuff MIC too? Why would Sankku make such a big deal about this? I suppose bashing China gets you aroused too, in addition to lolis and that other shit.

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    Comment by Keiwi
    08:27 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I would be shocked if anything game related has ever NOT been made in china.

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    Comment by Imyou
    09:37 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dualshock controllers were made in Japan. The original PSX ones were made in Malaysia. (Dualshock 2 and 3s? China...)

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:57 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "A glass which cannot be drunk from"

    ... water? The fact that no one else has pointed that out yet is a sad reflection on otaku culture. Drink something other than coke and you might lose some weight, guys.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:38 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Water, tea, coffee. There's plenty of liquid to be drank from this thing, but of course, ignorance is way more exciting.

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    Comment by Artefact

    Only if you take no milk.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well I don't, so... yeah. And its metallic tumbler, which makes me think its meant for warm & hot beverages, tea and such, so that the heat will preserve a little better.

    I have never even thought someone would fill a similar tumbler with milk or cola anyway, that would be quite stupid to begin with.

    But whatever, continue as you please.

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    Comment by PrinceHeir
    16:35 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    almost any product is made of china O_O

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    13:52 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Isn't just about everything made in China? Why would this be a surprise to anyone.
    Plates, glasses, bowls, mcdonalds drinking glasses, toys, accessories, food, etc.
    Look at most any store its all made in China, and most of it is typically low quality, even the Iphone is made in China.

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    Comment by brningpyre
    05:53 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just remake FF7 on the PS3 with better graphics and no other changes, and then go away, Square-Enix.

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    Comment by Ramong
    06:16 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They actually got quite a lot of cut off story elements for FF VII, VIII and IX that they would have liked to add the first edition.
    They cut it from the game because of space and ps1 hardware limitations..
    So if they made a remake of FF VII then I would like them to atleast add some of that stuff

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And that wont be possible because SE loves Money and who has money?M$ right
    And cause of this limitations(my phone is better than this crap) we only will have the half game xD

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    Comment by Rene
    07:59 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    One terrible turn deserves another?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:59 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As long as it's from China... I won't accept that "SHIT"

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:03 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    So you gonna get ride of about 70% of the stuffs you own? Wake up, China makes just about everything now. What happens here is a clear case of failure in quality control instead of mere fact of where it was made. And the instruction is pretty standard for every stainless steel container out there.

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    Comment by KrazyDmon
    22:56 14/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    China makes almost everything...

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    Comment by Rei Fukai
    07:32 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF is dead...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:41 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Would it be too nerdy to point out that ANY metallic cup, even stainless steel, will eventually corrode in some manner when used to store the listed substances?

    The warning lists as two examples "fruit juice" and "carbonated beverages" as things you shouldn't necessarily fill it with. Soda has a pH rating of 4 on average and as an example the citric acid in lemon juice is higher up as a 2. Left long enough they can eventually pit the stainless coating and corrode the cup.

    Salt can actually passes through the stainless coating and corrode the metal from the inside.

    Solid objects may scratch or otherwise damage the cup obviously.

    The only one I'm at a loss for now is the milk/dairy warning.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:56 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have a milk and dairy warning in my stainless steel thermos handbook, too. Not sure why but it's definitly not out of ordinary for stainless steel containers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:07 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Okay I think I've figured it out. Apparently milk go bad easily when you keep it warm for while. So most thermos comes with a warning to not use it to keep milk or dairy products. Since the container in the FFXIV package has a lid, I guess they're afraid of people using it like a thermos to keep milk warm for hours then get sick after drinking it.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    18:23 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wasn't sure about the milk going bad that fast but stainless is porous so it wold trap the milk solids and they would go bad. This is why a lot of good quality stainless thermoses have a glass lining. Soda is bad because of the acid eating the steel, the fact you can damn near strip the paint off of a car with coke should be proof enough of this danger.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:52 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    chin made tumbler sucks!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:44 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Time to play another three games of FFIV DS instead.

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    Comment by AdventZero
    07:36 24/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh no! the cup I didn't want or ever plan to use not only is poor quality but wasn't in the NA CE of the game!!

    Guess I have nothing better to do then play this random game that came in my cups box. *SIGH!* XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:40 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's it made out of?! It must have materials that pre-date stainless steel.. if I was an FF fan I'd send it back and demand a refund.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:36 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wtf, I didnt not get a tumbler with my Collector's edition. What edition of FFXIV includes this? I want one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:23 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    only european edition
    you are US
    so dont worry XD, meh EU include nice map too
    the US version sucks

    people htat only atttack ffxiv, only play beta that thing beta= final version are retard
    go to school and cross your finger because you are FAIL

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:18 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't understand. Why can't you use the cup for anything? Or perhaps a more baffling questing would be in light of China's ongoing quality-control problems, why would they have them manufactured in China? I think this is as good a time as any to stop outsourcing and work domestic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:06 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    noob gaijins it's not supposed to be used that's why it's in the "collector's edition."

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:23 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually everything is made in china. there's a proverb in china: you pay one centime, you get one centime. apple pays like $300 and china makes iphone for jobs. SE pays, i dont know, like $3? ,and that's what china makes for $3, definitely.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:24 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Final Fantasy I knew thee well, farewell my love..

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    Comment by Myballz
    02:22 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF cup made in China?

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    Comment by Schrobby
    20:07 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    More like FF made in China...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:42 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Waaah waaah waaaaah. A real collector wouldn't drink out of it anyways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:42 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahaha, i couldnt help but laugh. Seriously to make "collectors edition items" with such bad quality are just not right. Afterall collectors edition boxes are mostly bought by fans right ? Even Bioshock 2 Collectors Box came with an awesome LP that could be used.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:27 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yea, because when one person reports that their mechandise supposedly came in that condition it means every single piece is going to be a complete piece of trash, right?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:56 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh, I see what you did there. Clearly it being moldy wasn't the whole problem. Did you even read the rest? You can't use the tumbler for drinking. Tumblers are, by definition, supposed to be used for drinking. So they give you a useless cylinder with some lackluster, what appears to be worked leather sleeve, and charge you and extra far too much for an already lackluster product.

    Please use your brain. If you refuse to, I'll be more than happy to remove your head from your body.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:46 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    How can you not drink from it? It only lists things that make any metallic cup go bad. How about you use your brain...

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:20 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No carbonated beverages, there goes my (rum and) coke. No fruit drinks, there goes another huge chunk of beverages. Who would even drink dairy out of such an item? I already have a much nicer looking flask for alcohols. That leaves water, and I have bottles of water for when I want to drink that.

    So, again, useless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:16 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because the guy that posted SAID you can't drink from it, and whatever this guy says is the truth from gods own mouth right?

    Just like how the entire game is teh same copy/pasted towns and the game shuts off after 6 hours every week.

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    Comment by Schrobby
    20:09 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bottled water tends to be carbonated anyway, another no go.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:45 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by Eienring
    02:14 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't worry guys, they still have Versus to fall back on!

    What kind of game is it? I don't know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:29 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "they still have Versus to fall back on!"

    More like fail back on.

    Maybe I'm just a jaded, pessimistic asshole, but it would be insane to think that newer FF games would actually be good.

    "FFVIII, FFX, FFX-2, FFXI, FFXII, FFXIII, and FFXIV all sucked, but I bet FFvsXIII will be awesome!"

    "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". -Albert Einstein

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:54 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    i'll still give 3rd birthday a chance though, because Parasite Eve is the shiz

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:41 23/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And it's being written by the genius storyteller who gave us FFX-2! :D

    ...god, just shoot me now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:02 25/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    theres always isos for that matter of you think its really good after trying out the iso then buy the UMD just to show people you care

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