Sony has sued the hackers behind a device which is said to allow piracy on the PS3 – sales of the device have been banned whilst the court action proceeds.
Pending legal action by Sony against the Australian developers and sellers of the device has resulted in a temporary injunction on the sale and distribution of the “Jailbreak” device:
[The court] orders that up to and including 31 August 2010, the First to Fourth Respondents and each of them, whether by themselves, their servants or agents, be restrained from doing any of the following acts with respect to all and any Universal Serial Bus devices described as “PSJailbreak” […]:
(a) importing them into Australia with the intention of providing them to another person;
(b) distributing them to another person;
(c) offering them to the public;
(d) providing them to another person; and/or
(e) otherwise dealing in them.
The injunction expires at the end of August – depending on the decision of the court, sales may recommence or may be further halted.
The Australian company which developed the supposed hack, as well as a reseller, have both ceased taking orders in compliance with the order – the manufacturer has apparently even cancelled and refunded all pre-orders of the device.
Perhaps more importantly, the court has also ordered the makers to deliver technical samples of the device to Sony for analysis as part of the case – doubtless Sony engineers will be keen to develop countermeasures based on these samples.
Just what will become of the hack is not clear – the developers have already conceded that it is likely Sony will likely be able to defeat it easily with firmware updates, and without the benefit of a piracy-friendly legal environment it seems likely Sony will be able to drag them through the courts for some time.
Although it has not been conclusively demonstrated by independent parties that the hack actually works as advertised, Sony evidently takes the threat very seriously.
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Those things ran for like 100 bucks. They would have made a mint.
Sony should have just tacked on an extra $50 to line their pockets a bit.
That way it would stop the half-assed hackers from doing it, and the truely desperate would have to shell out the cash, to hopefully be banned later,lol
They could've made money and possibly tracked down all the losers using it @ the same time
It was to be expected, really. Well, some are already sold, they sure will soon be copied everywhere.
"Sony will likely be able to defeat it easily with firmware updates"
in the end, that will end with either another lost game for pirates, an endless chase (if the hack can be easily modified to work again) or a fucking nothing if it turns out the hack never worked to begin with.
It would turn out to be pretty awesome if it didn't work in the first place.
I vaguely recall it being said that mod chips in and of themselves are not illegal. These things should not be illegal either. They serve as a modification of a console people own.
Admittedly the R4 is banned (in some places) so maybe this'll tack on with that.
@Lonesnipa: "They serve as a modification people own"
What? You still think you own it? With the Linux disaster, constant patches to avoid the system being tampered with and restrict users to what Sony wants, it's more like a lease...
I'm not saying I want pirated game software in the PS3 I have in my room. Even me, a prick who likes a few developers likes to support them. Still, the example of the PSP being hacked and allowed to run homebrew makes me think that Sony only wants to make consoles, when they could compete or associate in a much wider manner, which could be an advantage to them in the end. All of it using the same hardware.
This is just an example, okay? Texas Instruments and Casio make scientific calculators. There is an emulator for a Texas Instruments calculator. If Sony wanted to make a partnership and offer a scientific calculator for the PSP in order to compete with Casio or even make one themselves and compete with Texas Instruments and Casio, I'm pretty sure they could do it and distribute it on the PSN for a fee. Would I pay for it? Fuck yes. I'm sick of carrying a large brick inside my backpack that people call Voyage-200.
That's just an example of what could happen. Sure, there would still be pirates, but Sony could make extra bucks.
The issue that is different from the R4 is that the Jailbreak uses information from an illegally obtained official SONY SDK as its base. This isn't a hacking job, so much as someone stealing the key to a car and making copies of it for distribution.
I'm curious. Why do you say the Jailbreak was developed using an illegal copy of the SDK? I have to admit I'm quite ignorant about the current state of affairs of this thing.
Because the Australasians said so.
The mod chip itself is not illegal no, but the software is and if they are selling the mod chip with the software then they are screwed
The keys they are selling to the owners of the cars, because these don't work without PS3's. Bad analogy is bad.
"The issue that is different from the R4 is that the Jailbreak uses information from an illegally obtained official SONY SDK as its base. This isn't a hacking job, so much as someone stealing the key to a car and making copies of it for distribution."
Until someone dumps the code and confirms that to be the case, that is purely speculation. Thou it is most likely true.
It's a Sony!
I guess advertising the PSJailbreak thru the net wasn't a good idea,they should have sticked to discreet marketing.It would not have prevented their product being discovered by Sony but atleast buy them time to make money and distribute it to their costumers....,alot of companies today scrutinize Youtube for traces of copyright infringement,they should have also known that by now...
"The issue that is different from the R4 is that the Jailbreak uses information from an illegally obtained official SONY SDK as its base. This isn't a hacking job, so much as someone stealing the key to a car and making copies of it for distribution."
Until someone dumps the code and confirms that to be the case, that is purely speculation. Thou it is most likely true.
UPDATE:
It was confirmed yesterday, that PSjailbreak is NOT a clone of Sony's jig device. It's an original exploit.
"We can confirm that PSJailbreak is in fact no simple clone of Sony´s “Jig” modul, instead it´s an honest, self developed exploit. The Chip inside is no PIC18F444 but an ATMega with USB-software. That means that the chip is capable of internal USB emulation. PSJailbreak mainly emulates a 6-port USB-hub to that several USB-devices get connected and disconnected in a speciffic sequence. One of these devices has the ID of Sony´s “Jig” modul, so that means that the “Jig” played a certain role during the development of PSJailbreak."
also of note was this, "The PSJailbreak is not updateable. The noted update-feature can, if at all, only be carried out with additional hardware."
To those talking about modchips and legality, didnt the original article say that these things are not able to provide the ability to play out of region ps1 games (or out of region ps2 games for the ones with ps2 compatibility), or out of region dvds or blu-ray movies, because if that is the case, then they cannot sell these, because the ruling only applied to the ability to play legitimately purchased games from out of region.
Agreed that's one of the reasons the the X-box 360 has managed to inflate their total console sales numbers and by occasionally bricking pirated X-box Microsoft simply starts the money making process over again.
Same thing with RROD or that 404 error thingy they have going now returning an RROD'd 360 wasn't always free you know...
Sure the company might line up their pockets with console sales but at the cost of the game developer's pockets. Piracy kills the developers, and what good is a console without developers that back it up with games?.
It wasn't made with an intention to make a buck, it was made with the intention of making a revolution!
If that was true it wouldn't have been for sell for half the cost of a system (150$), and they wouldn't have been making such a big deal about buying it from them instead of the people pirating their pirating software.
Remember, You're a nation of beggars and thieves. Console games should be bought. Otherwise well just get even more recycled shit and no more games like the shit we've been seeing for the computer
Remember console users are retards and lesser human beings. The master race shall prevail one day when the resale of used console dirt gets the publishers to close down.
@2:29
First of all, PS3 and XBox360 are both crippled down and severely limited computers, but computers never the less.
Second, you suck at trolling.
There aren't many great games released on PC or at least compared to number consoles, underpowered or not consoles have a standard simpler build and as is obvious a large portion of gamers play games on them.
Your joking right? Look at all the hundreds of great games on steam right now. And great games are coming to steam all the time on the PC. All PC games are not digital distribution via steam and other similar distribution platforms. All the good games I want are on steam\windows. Maybe I can't play some good console games like dead rising 2, but hey if I really wanted to I guess I could go buy a console for those select few games, Ps3 is pretty cheap now.
Sorry, typo.
All PC games are NOW digital distribution via steam and other similar distribution platforms.
"Remember, You're a nation of beggars and thieves."
And before that we were a nation of gangsters, murderers and cowboys. Ah Japan, how I love your narrow minded xenophobic ways.
the hundreds of games you're talking about are most if not all either easily pirated or fps. even those hundreds of games don't make money. the only computer game that makes money is stuff made by blizzard. console is the lionshare of the market and that's cuz people actually buy it and guess what those games actually have stories, which cost money. go figure.
Yuh-huh, and communism uplifts the common man.
This really is their OWN FAULTS. They could have outsourced it/sold it to many companies and distributors and made a profit, but instead they wanted to be the key developers/producers of it.
In other words, sony laughed, filed this, and will now proceed "cleaning up the mess" that they tried to make.
You can really see/tell how insane their delusions where with the 150 dollar price tag and how they wanted to limit the production to themselves for the large markup considering it's just a usb stick, hah...
Well they could have seen this coming.
Even though because someone hacked it already, others will do it too, and you can only sue so much people xD
That depends on the validity of the claim that the device merely used, or made it based on, Sony's SDK.
If the device's software was written purely out of programming miracle, there's a good chance that plenty of hardcore programmers will want to jump in on the fun - and gain recognition.
Otherwise, PS3 might just end up reaping 100% benefit for Sony. Though I'm curious: what's total software sales for pirateable X-Box? I have the impression that they still make a lot of sales regardless of all that, which seems to me only proves that every copy pirated isn't lost sales, but sales that would NEVER happen in the first place because those people either can't buy or WON'T buy...
"without the benefit of a piracy-friendly legal environmen"
Yeah huge WTF. Mods chips are legal in Australia ffs.
Infos here https://www.comcourts.gov.au/file/Federal/P/VID727/2010/actions
They may be legal but you can still be dragged through the courts over them.
That's the funny thing about legality...There are always laws and exceptions that come with them that can rip you a new one when they bring it to court...
'Fine prints' everywhere...
Not just the fine prints and exceptions. Being dragged through court can be very costly and a punishment in and of itself, one that not everyone is able to afford. This is why, no matter how nice the applicable law is, the situation will always be skewed to the benefit of rich people and corporations. And the only way that could change would be to change the ‘meta-law’, by which I mean the laws dealing with court cases and such. I propose that to fix the situation, there would a) need to be a loser pays all court costs, lawyer fees, and expenses (including things like train tickets, since not every village has its own court) and b) incurred costs and penalties need to be capped (or in some cases, inflated) based on the financial situation of the losing party. Yes, that means that in come cases the state will make a loss on a court case. Boo hoo.
I don't want my tax dollars going towards someone else's legal irresponsibility.
Even if I am irradiated by large amounts of radiation? Ok!
While they are technically legal in Australia, it's illegal to use them for anything other than legal copies of games you own. So when you purchase one in Australia you're pretty much saying "I'm not going to use it to play pirated games", which we all know that's the reason the majority of people buy them.
It's a pretty dumb law with a massive loophole in it, but that's the way it is.
Small breasted adult women are theoretically legal in Australia, too. Still having them in a porn movie could get you dragged through the courts for owning CP...
This isn't the same thing. The software you need on the PS3 side to make this work is compiled with a leaked Sony SDK, making it illegal pretty much worldwide regardless of the legality of modchips.
Unless the copyright is held by an Iranian it's very legal here to pirate it.
Most hated countries in the world:
1: Israel (All Jews)
2: U.S.A (A lot of Jews)
3: U.K (Some Jews)
I thought 3rd place would belong to Japan, lol.
You know, old wounds and shit. The UK is so far off. Why else would you see London becoming Londonistan, and curry slowingly becoming national food?
When I first heard about this device I was wondering why there'd be a "company" ignorant enough to try an sell these on the market -.- instead of offering some sort of install sftwr to a flash drive or something.
I'm kinda surprised it took Sony so long to react.
Yeah...My friends already bought these a while back when it came out...
And no doubt other hackers and pirates too...
It's probably being re-made and sold underground as we speak after Sony made this move...
Leave it to the underworld
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and China
What's with the negative..? Did you misunderstand what I said as an insulting jest again..?
I am merely stating a possibility like what Yoshi-kun said...
Anything and everything can be hacked and/or marketed by third-parties wanting to make a quick buck nowadays...
It was already remade :P Within about 24 hours people were making copies of it, seeing as it was effectively a copy of the ps3 dev kit sticks that they had. That said, the coding wasn't exactly the same, so the coding on it doesn't break any patent or copyright.
Well I apologize for not knowing this...But come now, do I really deserve that negative for stating something..?