Pirates Rejoice as Xbox 360 Slim Hacked

Well, if Microsoft would make profit per each console sold, they'd really have reason to make pirates their target audience...

So it's basically like this then,
for Microsoft to be able to "dominate" the console market they basically:
1.made a piracy-friendly console
2.add in some " design flaws " (RROD,disc-related and overheating problems) for " better " company-customer relationship (I bet there are some of you who are a regular at their customer service hotline)
3.also don't forget Kinect

Personally I don't consider piracy to be bad, infact it's already part of today's culture.
Buying the game or getting it legally is now just a means to say thanks to the makers and that you appreciated their hard work,but then again I've thought of those who really appreciate it but can't buy it due to budget constrictions.guess it's all good if you don't involve greed into the equation.

they make more than there fair share of money back through xbox live. pays for online, dont know if you can use it on a pirate box but i know there was a control to pirate mode and non pirate mode. you pay 50$ a year, pirate and as long as you renew the 1 year thing, they make 50-60$ off your sorry ass.

@alidan 19:45

Great! Then it'll only take SIX years for them to break even in regards to money lost on the console!

yeah, seems like they're breaking even with the amount of DLCs lately aswell.not just them,but their competitors also.

@KrazedLumberjack
19:24
If Microsoft was trying to dominate the pirate market, they wouldn't have bricked hundreds of thousands of FailBox 360s a couple months ago.

Microsoft wanted to buy itself into the console market and is still paying. It's that simple. But they have lots of money, so it probably doesn't matter anyway. As in starving to death, when products fail.

Exactly. It's an old and trusted Micro$oft strategy to dominate the market, buy your competitor or try to drive him out. They plan long term and money is of no big concern with billions of petty cash.

A company with such a big name as Microsoft wouldn't show it in front of the good populace their darker side of how they run business.Would you market your console to the paying costumer with this line: " This thing's insides and works right here is easy to crack,come folks buy it while it's hot.", of course no,unless they're horribly desperate they won't brick it openly.So they rather put some " obstacles " to the hacking process and they'll hope that somebody will fiddle with it and presto!,instant Jolly Roger'd Console!Microsoft is definitely one of the kings of shrewd unseen business practices.The best example of it is their line of OSes that get pirated in a couple of weeks or so after their debut.I mean look,surely in developing countries piracy isn't that easy to curb but from what I can see is that most of these contraband come from well-off nations that act as suppliers to these developing countries.Microsoft could just stomp out the dens of piracy in these supplier states with the help of local law enforcement agencies there...,Stop the source and it stops the users...,or so it seems...It's like its all part of the dirty sales pitch.Don't forget the lawsuits thrown at them way back then,It's old Bill Gates to the rescue (testifying in court that is.)

@Krazed Lumberjack

Intentional RROD is bull. I had a release 360 and it's never gone bad for all the years I've had it. Marathoned for 12 hours at a time for new games with no issues, I've just never had the exhaust grate blocked with anything and its fine.

On OS's, not sure if you know, but in many developing countries MS gives out free copies of Windows at their kiosks in malls and computer stores to build up a user base. Piracy is for people too lazy to visit a store.

You can tell that to those who's console got screwed and besides there are those lucky ones like you who haven't had the pleasure of being a regular at their hotline, Microsoft employs ALOT of call center companies to handle their products expecially with the Xbox 360.I ain't an Xbox or Microsoft basher, It just ticks me off seeing a company siphon people's money using underhanded tactics without those very people realizing they have been fooled right under their very noses.The OS being given away as free in developing countries?,Look they give out Starter copies to be exact and you know how much stuff from the actual OS they left out in those.So if you put yourself in the shoes of those people in those developing countries which would you go for? Free Starter OS or Free Window 7 Ulitimate from the web? Besides,most people would rather download something from the web for free than use their cold hard earned cash or take out their card for something otherwise found on a torrent or file-sharing site. Piracy isn't just for lazy people dude, It's a given these days.Go and browse the net more and you'll probably see.

i know when the console was new, they took a loss, what about now

i believe the system has a 3 core processor, and a 7000 series gforce. a dvd drive is 20, the case is at most 30 and psu is at most 30.

thats 80$ there, they put dick of ram in there, so lets add 20$ and lets also not confuse yourself. prossers and video cards cost next to nothing to manufacture, so long as you have the infrastructure, what they pay for is the development. and i haven't heard of any cpu costing more than 1 billion $ than the cell.

and if the system had a hard drive, thats an extra almost 80$ of profit right there.

all in all at this point i wouldnt be shocked if microsoft was close to the break even point per system sell.

now lets not forget, 50$ a year, and they were only 200 in the hole at launch per system i believe, that would be 4 years of live and they make there money back. now its probably 2 years at most before they profit off the system.

Apperant PS3 possibility:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/ps3-modchip-claims-to-finally-allow-backing-up-games-without-inv/ [www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/ps3-modchip-claims-to-finally-allow-backing-up-games-without-inv/]

@alidan
Actually the Xbox 360 GPU is an AMD/ATI chip that is related to the R500 family with several R600 features.
Xenos was the first ATI GPU with a unified shader that later appeared in the R600 series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_%28graphics_chip%29 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip)]

i said equivalent on nvidia because thats what most people compare it to. that and i dont keep the full model details memorized.

Really? Now is the time to get an xbox? Even though the previous one was already hacked? GG?

Errr... seriously?
SERIOUSLY?

>> no one cares as the PS3 has zero games worth buying

Hi, looks like you’re stuck in 2007. Please head to the back and take a left turn. When you come across the room with a label that says “Time Machine”, enter it. Input the digits 18082010 into the chronometer and hit the "GO" button.

Gotta love a fail fan-boy attack.

Then why isn't the PS3 popular? It's the games that make the console, then according to you SnooSnoo the PS3 should be better than it is, but it isn't.

Wasn't the Psp hacked?

"the games are often higher quality on xbox"
what? O.o

"almost no one has a bluray bunner"
almost? I think no one have it

No one has a Blu-Ray bunner because there is no such thing.

@Nozomu and SnooSnooo I'm going to fucking kill you both.

Please tell me you are fucking joking right? Blu-ray burners have been out since 08 AT LEAST.

http://www.shopbot.com.au/blu-ray-burners/storage/australia/711

And that's in AUSTRALIA the US has plenty more.

Sony fans don't want to admit that blu-ray is a failed format because the only people who use it are anime creators trying to make extra cash.

8:34 is right, bluray burners exist. But they're expensive! And I don't think there is writable duallayer bluray media available, yet. Last I checked quality singlelayer bluray-r discs were around 20 US dollars.

Pricey f**king things. As for a failed format, I'm not so sure about that. Yeah, eventually movies will move to online distribution, as a media standard...

But that's still a few years away. Bluray would have been a more successful format if the filmmakers did not choose to gouge their customers for the first 3-4 years. Right now, prices of bluray movies are on par with dvd prices, but I'm afraid that it's too late for that price point. Web enabled HDTVs and MCE systems will eventually overtake optical media because bluray camp choose to rob their customers for far too long.

@8:34 - I think you missed the part where SnooSnoo was mocking alidan for saying BUNNER instead of burner. Of course they know that Bluray burners exist.

o yay i misspelled words, make fun of it everyone.

and as for streaming movies, we are at least 15 years off and movie producers will fuck it and fight it tooth and nail until they are forced to submit