Mafia II “Hugely Degraded on PS3”
- Categories: News
- Date: Aug 13, 2010 04:16 JST
- Tags: 3D CG, Comparison, GTA, Ports, PS3, Technology, Video Gallery, Xbox 360
PS3 owners looking forward to playing GTA-alike Mafia II have been dismayed to learn that the game features notably degraded graphics on the PS3 as compared to the Xbox 360 version, a repeat of the minor fiasco surrounding the release of Red Dead Redemption.
Foliage and grass suffers particularly badly on the PS3:
A video comparison shows the PS3 version has significant tearing issues:
Of course, at this stage for anyone with an up-to-date PC the graphics should be far better than either console.














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Ha console fanboys been had again. The PC master race triumphs again.
I was under the impression that the master race was the one with every console available to them.
Silly.
No, just the PC owning one.
That's simply always the best one.
I dont even notice a difference
... Wait lemme put my glasses on...
Ah now I see it
The grass is always greener on the other side of the... Xbox?!
Wait, XBox got a superior version, not PS3? Isn't PS3 supposed to be able to run a more powerful game than all the current consoles?
@TNinja: Yes, and you only have to take a glance at Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 for proof of that. Unfortunately, a console is only capable of what a developer optimizes it for. PS3 has no problems handling games like Bayonetta or (in this case) Mafia II just as well, if not better, than the 360, but when you have a shoddy development team that doesn't optimize the game properly, the quality suffers because of it.
Clearly the problem there is their gardener, not the consoles.
too much work for them perhaps
"The grass is always greener on the other side of the... Xbox?!"
Wait... don't you mean RED?
Oh yeah... Xbox 360 Slim... now it's green.
Ok then.
The grass is greener on the 360 because the PS3 is black and therefore can't maintain high standards.
EA had the same problems porting many of their multi-platform games (I used to work there). While the 360 was extremely easy to develop for using their pre-existing Windows run PCs, the PS3 and the cell processor are comparatively very difficult to develop on requiring specific dev kits and a programming architecture that's much larger and quite convoluted.
So, for the most part, the programmers would design everything on the 360 and then shoddily port it over to the ps3 resulting in reduced quality.
Although the PS3 hardware is superior, the development of software is more difficult and requires greater depth of understanding and more resources. Companies love profits, and when they have the option of doing something cheaper and faster nine times out of ten that's exactly what they'll do.
You can't site exclusives as a testimony to how great the ps3 is because for all we know the xbox would run it better. That is like saying the ps3 can't handle Gears 3 or Halo reach.
Only real comparisons are done with multiplatform and in that aspect the ps3 nearly always comes out short.
thats like saying alan wake at 540p is = to uncharted 2 at 720p
just saying all of the good looking ps3 exclusives are 720p
360 games how ever mostly below 720p
ps3 does 3d with a res drop that is equal to 360s subhd games
and it renders it twice
@Jeedwi: then why don't they use the cryengine 3, which is already perfectly optimized for all the platforms?
well, looking from the console's each specs.. XBOX 360 got the upper hand in GPU, XBOX 360 uses GPU from ATI which is bellieved has more vibrant color than Nvidia GPUs in PC (PS3 uses Nvidia 7800GTX)... while PS3 still got the upper hand in processing power thanks to it's cell proc
Although EA published Crysis 2, they did not develop it. So, and I'm just guessing here, they'd probably have to pay the licenses instead of cracking the whip on their programmers to make their own engine.
But good point, using a pre optimized engine would make a lot of sense.
True. Every console AND a high end PC, that is.
This one time I was typing stuff to someone on msn and I was playing Saints Row 2 on the 360 next to me with my feet and my friend who was over at the time was like :O
True story.
It seems the PS3 edition saw no rain for a few weeks...
ScottyT14 gets it. Get out, PCfags.
And once again the PC gamers spend thousands of money to upgrade their PCs...
i wouldn't say so, the new gtx 460 1gb is cheap and good and can run dx11 :)
u mad bro?
thousands? i spent 150 on a new graphics card. what fucking rock you live under?
The one with THE latest variation of the ATI HD5xxx or nVidia GTX4xx series.
Because a PC simply does everything!
Those things always cost 100s and 1000s when they show up; wait a half year or two, have the same hardware for bargain price. Nuff said.
PS3/360 just use the equivalent of 20USD video cards. Hell maybe even cost less now, I've said this shit for over a year probably.
my 5770 1gb cost me 150$ and plays damn near everything i throw at it maxed or damn near maxed. i dont use aa, because once you hit 1920x1200 resolution, you only see jaggies in screenshots, in game you never notice it.
Actually consoles are sold for prices below production costs...
Also if you set the details to console levels, you could run every game with even cheaper hardware.
Unlike consoles there are no region codes, you can play every game. Somethimes you have to change non-unicode language like for japanese or korean games, but thats no problem at all.
The only that speaks for getting a console is because you want to play special games that arnt available for the PC.
Dreamcast was my last one and i dont plan to buy another one. Sooner or later there will be emulators. ^^
Good argument until you saud "Sooner or later there will be emulators. ^^". I severely doubt there will be decent emulators that run perfectly for any new-gen console. The closest thing you have is Dolphin... Which isn't good because of the lack of waggle stick.
Even if you set a waggle stick up through your PC using bluetooth, it's not the same.
Also, good luck with your 360/PS3 emulator :D
PS2 ones are still shit and show no signs of becoming fully reliable or playable at all in the near future. :D
yea, its in an hd resolution.
and you only need to be 8 times more powerful then the console to emulate it. and if im correct, i believe i am, we have hit that mark a while ago, or are at least closing in on it.
"PS2 ones are still shit and show no signs of becoming fully reliable or playable at all in the near future. :D"
Actually, there are only a handful of games pcsx2 can't play. It's all a matter of checking/unchecking the right boxes.
lol, my system is 3 years old and runs on max with 78 fps :P
A four years old gaming PC with a GTX260 can max this (not counting AA or PhysX). Those costs somewhere inbetween $400 and $600 today, so where you get the one thousand mark is beyond me.
Those insane people with 8 of the most expensive video cards crossfired or SLI'd, only to get new one the following year. Actually, a perfect gaming machine (as in, less then 0.000000000000000000001 latency) can cost $1000 or more.
actually Quad SLI or CFX is the highest at the moment but I doubt you'd know. This is an example of the most extreme PC gamers but these people (me included although I don't spend as much as THAT) don't care for money. If you have it and you like spending it on your PC, what's wrong with that?
Heck, you can even invest less than $1000 and your rig can live for 5 years!
1000s? hardly i spend about as much as console costs and have much more reply value in games
and i can do real work on a PC
SIEG X86! hail the master race!
x86 is a faulty architecture...
I can build a high spec rig with $700, and it can play most recent games on high setting. When was the last time you update your info?
And no one single penny for the game itself.
Heh.
what year are you living in? 1995?
qft Master race reporting in.
I don't care about the bloody foliage and grass...
I care about the gameplay and that's all there is to it...
If graphics are the concern, put them all in the blood and gore effects and weapon explosions...
Everything else should be second concerns...
its the little details that can make or break a game you know
if gta4 looked like shit but had great game play it wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it is.
especially in a realistic like game where making the play suspend there disbelief is the key, the little details are what the main concern is.
Lmao, wow, I didn't even notice if GTA 4 had grass or not. That's how much shit like grass matters to me when I'm playing a game. GTA 4 would have been GTA 4 even if the buildings looked like cardboard cutouts.
Side note, I turn grass OFF on almost all games when I have the chance. Developers like to be a bunch of stupid fucking assholes, where you can't see through grass, with your giant lack of X-ray vision, resulting in plenty of frustration while looking for a corpse amongst all of it, or getting computer *lolololaimbot* npc's that can see through it, walls, and every other assortment of visual obstruction in the game. Taking out the grass just makes sense.
You only own a PS3, don't you?
I own all 3 systems, all hand-helds, a PC, and a laptop...
Oh, and I also own a PS2, DC and GC...
I have more than enough money to buy the slim/elite/black versions, but I'd rather spend them all commissioning more Touhou futa/yuri crack-pairing doujins~
@alidan
Maybe...But I'm all about the blood, gore, destruction and gameplay...
But you are right...The selling point nowadays is graphics...And even the minute of details matter...
I've always wondered: why don't the console games have the performance/quality setting, thus permitting the user to choose between amazing graphics with low fps and bad graphics with amazing fps?
and SanCon conveniently forgets that the PS3 demo is running off an older build than the 360.
Maybe the PS3 version is in a neighborhood where people just don't take much care of their lawns :-/
Man, and I thought PS3 owners got shafted with Assassin Creed game downgrades and Bayonetta.
I keep hearing the 'PS3 version has mowed lawns!' joke. lol
pc is most definitely triumphant in putting holes in the consumers pockets -_-
YUP PC RULES CONSOLES DROOLS