Half of Men “Afraid to Help Children Over Arrest Fears”

not paranoid, it's manic disorder

I don't blame them. Even in america I try to avoid any eye contact with any part of any child.

2D Children > 3D Children.

@Neonie

If you did, they'd charge you for eye-raping.

And we're back to square one....

Yep. This is the world we wanted. Where no one wants to help any children in need, by scaring people off with "Tagged as child molester" bullshit.

Next time I see a kid fall off a bridge or osmething, I'll just go "SORRY, I'M NO CHILD M0LEZTARZ!".

"38% of parents with young children also reported they believed it was “common” for children to be snatched off the streets by malevolent strangers, suggesting the fears of men are far from groundless."

Grounding!? It's not like 38% of parents actually experienced something like that.

It's probably similar to Japan where media makes people believe crime rate is drastically rising while actually it's falling and is one of the lowest among all countries around the world.

The sad thing is, it DOES happen tho. Anyone who's been living in Toronto knows about the recent episodes child kidnappings..usually resulting in the child's permanent disappearance, sadly enough. D: Which is why it isn't much of a wonder for people to go paranoid, police to panic, and men to just go "unless it's the direst of circumstances will I only save a child's life..like them in immediate danger or something."

@ Darkrockslizer,

Correct, the fact that their fears are "far from groundless" is because 38% of the British public believe that it's common, and consequently are very likely to freak the fuck out at some man coming into any sort of contact, no matter how innocent, with their children. The media influence isn't the same as Japan though, as the UK's crime rate isn't much to brag about.

And, talking of Japan, does anybody know if there was there a similar survey done there? I've a feeling that significantly more than half of Japanese males would also be justifiably terrified of helping children.

I read that as "38% of parents think that child-snatching is common, therefore being afraid of being accused of being one is far from groundless"... so in this instance the actual probability of child-snatching is irrelevant, just the /perception/ of such (as that is what leads to the accusation).

However it was written "suggesting the fears of men are far from groundless."

Suggesting fears themselves have that much grounding. Only based on public belief. E.g. "85% of Americans believe God exists so its existence is far from groundless."

Logical fallacy there

Oh dear, no no. It's perfectly logical. It is that the more people or parents believe that there are tons of child molesters/ kidnappers running around snatching children off the streets, the more likely someone is going to call you out and flip the fuck out. Therefore, the higher inherent risk of talking/touching/helping a child (risk as in you get called out, dragged to the police station, becomes a mess, you can never have enough face to go back to that park ever again, ect).

Am I the only one who looks at that sort of logic and says "what magical world have these people been living in up til now??"

Child molesters, kidnappers, and pedophiles in general have been in this world for .......well...they've probably just always been there. Just like normal rapists. Just because more cases are reported these days doesn't mean that there's much more, or much less than there always has been.

All this paranoia just confirms my belief that at least 70% of people are idiots who make up weird "world rules" for reality, and close their eyes to everything else.

@Darkrockslizer
I think you are overcomplicating the matter =w=;
1. Men are afraid that they will be labeled as child molesters upon contact.
2. 38% Parents say that it's "common" for males to carry out innaproriate action with their children.
3.The fear isn't baseless since a lot of parents would really do that.

Besides don't use reversal of argumentum ad populum to prove something is a logical fallacy... it's simply wrong in many ways.

Thank you, BaltazarDZ, for so thoroughly rebuking Darkrock. I don't know why I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully, he gets it now.

Sad thing is it is more likely that someone close to the child will attempt a kidnapping rather than some random person. the thing about the gender always being a male is often incorrect as well, therefore most of the fear of a random male kidnapping your child is baseless fear.

@BaltazarDZ No, I'm sorry, you don't understand either. It's not some weird logical complication, it's just wording. Darkrockslizer read it as 'suggesting the fears of men are far from groundless' as in, the fear belonging to the parents, fear of men. You and others read 'fears of men' to mean the fear belonging to men, fear of being wrongly accused. It's a reversible statement that can easily be taken one way or the other especially in its context. Please to be understanding properly before acting aloof, k?

All thanks to the pope lol.

most of the time the father is the molester

society love scandals, as long as they're not involved

To be honest, though, if you can help a child in need, you should. They'll become better adults, someday helping people themselves. No fear of punishment should threaten this.

I haven't heard of anyone actually getting convicted in cases like these, only that they got search warrants.

"I don't blame them. Even in america I try to avoid any eye contact with any part of any child."

Holy fuck this is true, especially the girls. Compared to other people little girls are like visible land mines that move that you have to be constantly aware of. And if they come too close to me I get petrified. The ones that say hello to me are pure evil...

Same here. This is especially true with teens (which ppl still consider "child") because some are actually hot and the eyes naturally fall on dangerous spot. At the beach I gotta walk watching the sea, the sky or the ground.

I try to avoid looking at children too in stores, etc. It's kinda crap that I have to feel that way just because I'm a man, but it's something I can live with.

This is why they sell sunglasses :P

"No fear of punishment should threaten this."

>> I am not going to prison for some brat who got lost.

"I haven't heard of anyone actually getting convicted in cases like these, only that they got search warrants."

>> Does not matter, once you are on the news kiss your job goodbye. Don't expect the 1 line page 5 retraction to help you later.

"UK’s rotten inner city areas"
Leave us bloody brits alone.

im a brit(not very proud to be) and yes our cities and towns are pretty rotten

Its hard to do much of anything without being labled some disgusting pervert by some judgemental moral high-horsed asshole. About a year back some kids playing soccer got their ball stuck in a tree, so i climbed the tree and got it and when i got down i found their parents herding them like fucking cattle away from me like i'm presenting myself as some sort of threat. Granted there are things to worry about nowadays, but peoples massive paranoia of anything and everything is just pathetic excuse to keep their children ignorant of kindness just as much as the evil in society. I made that the last time i ever help anyone like that.

Lol?!?! I wouldn't want your loli avatar loving ass near a child either.