Tales of Graces Perfect vs Beta


Namco’s practice of allowing users on other platforms to pay for the privilege of beta-testing Tales games for PS3 users seems to have reached its pinnacle with Tales of Graces – comparing the PS3 version (above) to the Wii beta (top) shows some rather stark differences.

The latest preview of “Tales of Graces F”:

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    Comment by Belthasar
    05:51 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wait, couldn't the difference have to do with the two versions being on different systems?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:59 03/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    isnt a bit silly to call beta to a previous version?

    I mean, story of gaming is full of games with bugs and programing issues, corrected en future versions for different platforms or re-releases.

    Also is obvious if this game will go to a more powerful platform it gonna be improved in graphics and sounds.

    Its like be surprised for how a bluray version of a movie will include more extras.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You people are fucking stupid. It's not like they make all their money on the Tales series alone. Probably it makes more money in Japan and barely any in the US or anywhere else outside of Japan so they decided it wasn't worth it. Tough shit. I want Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side in English but I have to live with it never happening. Some games just aren't released in English, deal with it.

    Also do you guys have any fucking idea what a beta is? Of course it doesn't look as good as the real thing or has bugs, that's the point of a beta! Users playing it and testing it out.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    01:46 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    probably... and what do you mean tales isnt the cash-cow of namco game line i mean just look at what they have done to the series how many game ports and some bad games really came out of it... seriously JUST LOOKS AT IT and do mind you namco is barely getting the cash even in japan only sales

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:33 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    they barely make any money anywhere else because they don't try to make money anywhere else.

    It's not that they can't since there clearly is a demand, It's that they refuse to cause they are so fucking pigheaded that even trained chimps can do better jobs then them when it comes to managing a company.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:21 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some Reason my instincts are telling me if we replaced Upper Management of Bandai Namco with Piss smelling drunken Homeless it's profits would double.

    Comment by Fgwar
    14:39 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tales of the Abyss was truly (in spirit) the last of the series, because it didn't get revamped again and was completely finished upon release.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:03 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're kidding ?
    The development of the game was rushed to release it for the Tales 10th anniversary, the japanese version was incomplete and full of bugs and the US version complete but still full of bugs.

    The Tales of which is going to be complete is probably the Next on the PS3 made by team symphonia, he was luckily not rushed to be released on the Tales 15th anniversary contrary to Tales of the Abyss.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:25 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Take a good, long look at the game you will never see translated into English/French/Spanish/German.

    Because Bamco hates you!

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    15:18 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So The latest Tales game will be re-released some time in the future, and why should we care again?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I just want to say that people should probably start to differentiate between the two teams (actually three) that truly create new "Tales of" games and those that make all those horrible publishing decisions, i.e. those shithead CEO's of Namco.

    Those are the ones that cause all that grief because they are nothing more than old, retarded shitheads with next to no grasp of reality.

    Just look at Namcos financial situation and it becomes apparent that these people don't have a clue of how to run a successful business. Even with a strong series like that and a surprisingly rabid fanbase.
    At least, in Japan they annually celebrate their Tales of Festival with the seiyuus as the main attraction. That's someting a foreign fan can only dream of.

    As for Graces, i think it was relatively safe to say that a mothership title like that would see a port to another console, especially after that rather bumpy start they had with the Wii. And i have to say i'm pleased that we get a superior port simply because i don't own a Wii and probably never will.

    In that regard i'd say it's pretty logical that the PS3 version will look much better. I'd be disappointed if we'd only get a shoddy port with a few new costumes or redundant crap.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:58 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wish she still had the neck bell though...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:32 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not Tales Of Phantasia, so it's not relevant.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:37 12/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking youtube and copyright trolls!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:30 08/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    didn't they go bankrupt?

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    Comment by draguer
    02:32 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    will their trolling ever end?

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    Comment by Niwa
    02:50 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    if they quit jumpin ship with one console and switching to another?

    one can only hope my friend one can hope.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:37 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope they go out of business.

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    Comment by TellTime
    21:32 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh Namco, you're such a tease. First you give me the epic Tales o Symphonia for my Gamecube, and now you tell me I can't have any other Tales game that ever comes out again? Well that a damn shame, huh?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:47 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Western Tales fans whining about localization are
    disgusting. Bamco will be fine without your money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:52 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually bamco isnt doing fine even in japan.... so what now... what can you expect from them...
    PS the shift style that tales of graces introduces is apparently a good concept with a lot of potential however not wisely implementing it kinda made the graces lame... but i hope they improve the system better on the next installments yep.... i can say about graces is that it had a lot of potential even for a beta game on the wii but they clearly need to think harder despite their current bad condition in japan they need to bring out wha made ToD like wise ToA following suite the best game of the tales series so far

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    Comment by Russell
    00:10 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This business practice is unconscionable. The best way to deal with this is to completely boycott Namco until they stop this.

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    Comment by Nin
    08:28 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't forget that the GCN userbase was tricked this way as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    because of ToS? i presume... but they say the ToS on GC was better than on PS2... and thats like the GC version came first

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:18 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    - Vote on this : http://share.blog.us.playstation.com/ideas/2010/07/30/sony-should-publish-ps3-tales-of-games-in-the-us/

    - Post a wall post on Namco Games's official Facebook page ; http://www.facebook.com/namco?v=wall , (be sure to be polite when you do so as overly negative posts only hurt things).

    - Fill out this fan survey, the results of which will be sent to Namco Bandai sometime in the near future. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PQQBGNQ

    - Send a tweet to @NamcoGames or @namcobandai using the hashtag #TalesFansUnite (as before, please be polite).

    - There are publicly listed phone numbers for the company which can be called. They are expecting fan calls now so it is very likely you will get a automated response or a canned response from one of their representatives.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:53 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    and people wonder why this studio is going to die.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:50 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    14:34 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah poor bastards are going to be so jealous until they ruin the story(if there is one) for you. Wait for it SPOILERS!!!!!

    They will have beat the game and moved on long before the ps3 users get to even play it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:38 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    true... very true... played and finished as well haha sure i got lazy completing all the titles in game (which can only be completed via NG+) but it was worth it due to the game breaking bugs the first version has
    and i dont care if asbel gets a new hi-ougi but all i care is that grown asbel must have a rekkuzan not just his younger-self... possible if his new hi-ougi would be dealing a lot of spinning kick then ill buy it for the hell of it after all bandai has license to code geass... which in turn has namco

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:57 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah they should have bought a PS3 for RPG's.

    Just like the PS2 was the best for last gen.

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    Comment by Travosaga
    08:42 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know why they keep releasing major titles like this on the inferior Wii. I also don't know why they insist on teasing us with Japanese only releases when there is a respectable fanbase in the rest of the world. Of course it really doesn't help their low sales when they keep pulling nonsense like this either.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:48 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This changes nothing, Tales is still the worst piece of shit JRPG franchise created.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    You didn't like TOV? You clearly have no taste.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:20 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hugely agreed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:10 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    let's keep namco face book wall busy guys : http://www.facebook.com/namco?v=wall

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:43 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Wii sucks.

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    Comment by Majineko
    08:30 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i kinda agree. i soo would love to see all my fav nintendo chars in full 1080i or p. no controller shaking neither.(coming from a wii owner)

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:34 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    the Wii don´t suck more than you

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    Comment by WhiteWind
    07:45 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd be happier knowing they have plans for an english version. Seems like RPG's nowadays are disappointing me one way or another... I'm going back to my retro classics...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:03 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hate how big RPG's are getting. I don't like spending 60-90 hours playing. I give up around after 20. A nice 7-15 hour game is cool.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:18 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Soooo... you don't like a good amount of content for your money?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:16 07/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    pfft haha, you assume I spend money. XD

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    Comment by Majineko
    08:37 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    same here. i understand the story takes awhile to finish up, but many of those hours are spent in repetitive battles and boring lvl ups.

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    Comment by Majineko
    14:40 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    same then as before. only ff i've finished was tatics

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    15:02 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I admit it Dirty Dingus. I'm a crazy grinder. lol

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    Comment by Dirty_Dingus008
    12:03 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    80~100 hours to finish DQ1?

    Shippy~ you be one hard core BA to "complete" DQ1 in that range while I finished it in 10~12. It was the greatest NES game I ever played on that system! I got no further then the title screen of FF1 before boredom had me toss it into the bin

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    09:24 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I kinda don't get that point, considering most big JRPGs for the SNES, PS1 and PS2 usually boasted gameplay + level grinding that were at least 30 hours to even something as high as 80-100 hours.

    Grinding + JRPGS? That was there since FF1 and Dragon Quest 1..

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    Comment by Zuhri
    10:42 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, its been a while since I've played a good JRPG. The last was when I played my friend's xenoblade, and I don't understand a god damn thing. Still good, though...

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    Comment by Duran
    07:51 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I bet the PS3 owner who bought the beta version to play on Wii facepalmed when they heard of this.

    What a jerk move and I bet no international release too.

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    Comment by nolemor
    07:36 06/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would have been more surprised if it didn't look any different at all.

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