Miyazaki: iPad Users “Nothing But Chronic Masturbators”
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jul 13, 2010 16:42 JST
- Tags: Apple, Chikan, Hayao Miyazaki, iPhone, Onanism, Studio Ghibli, Technology
Hayao Miyazaki, of Studio Ghibli fame, has launched into one of his trademark rambling tirades against the ills of technology, likening “iWhatever” users to “chronic onanists.”
The remarks came in the context of an interview with Miyazaki published in “Neppu,” an in-house Ghibli rag, which had been covering the iPad.
Upon being confronted by an interviewer fiddling with his iPad, Miyazaki let loose:
“That thing that looks like a gaming device in your hand, along with that strange stroking movement you make with your hands is by no means attractive to me, nor am I at all impressed by it. I feel a sense of revulsion for it, in fact.
I’m sure in short time there will be an increase in people on trains making those strange masturbatory strokes. It was the same when everyone started reading manga on trains, and when it became cellphones – I’m fed up with it.”
That was merely his initial statement.
The interviewer went on the defensive, describing how he thought the iPad a good tool for research, and something to buy books on and look up information with.
This only aggravated Miyazaki further however:
“It may seem like I am ignoring your human rights to say this, but you can’t research any of that. Why? Because you have no way of knowing what it’s like to be on an old trireme, or having empathy with the men on board, covered in sweat as they labour at their oars.
You go out into the world without enriching your imagination. You are merely grasping the iWhatever as a skimming tool you use to stroke yourself.
I’m sure there are many people who want to become omnipotent by getting their hands on this iWhatever. I’ll tell you sir, there were once a bunch of people who wore radio cassette players (those bulky things) wherever they went in the sixties. They wore it like a priceless emblem.
They’re mostly probably living off of pension funds now, but you and them are the same. You jump at the newest gadgets, and all you do is relish the pride in owning one as some consumer.
You must not become a consumer. You must become someone that creates.”









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I stand with Miyazaki in this. Consumer slavery kills creativity.
Way ahead of Hayao, I never consumes his not-actual-disney creations.
lol
So many people dickriding Miyazaki because he made a few of their precious animoos
If I may present: My new god!
"Because you have no way of knowing what it’s like to be on an old trireme, or having empathy with the men on board, covered in sweat as they labour at their oars."
And I bet you have. You're actually 2600 years old and Greek. You spent your life as an oarsman on an Athenian ship before you became immortal then you moved to Japan and... oh my god, the Sean Connery character from Highlander was bassed off Miyazaki! And Steve Jobs is another Immortal. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
But seriously, what is he talking about?
You got "iTroll'd".
It totally seems like he is ignoring human rights, indeed...
So, easy access to information is bad?
While I agree with most of the interpretations of Miyazaki's words regarding mindless consumerism, I think he is still putting too much blame on mere tools.
The iWhatever may be tightly closed, censored and restricted; but I bet you can at least use it to watch one of his movies. Now, is that such a bad use?
He thinks watching his movies is a bad idea. He once said that children should only be allowed to watch one film a year, lest they be spoiled.
And I bet I know which films hed like children to watch. Hint, its not made by his competitors.
Yoshiyuki Tomino said something similar about gamers. These old guys just don't get it, do they?
I like his work. but I kinda have to Disagree what Miyazaki Said
Wihout consumer, there is no Creator. Without Creator, There is no Consumer.
Ipad is something we call NEW. and NEW is something we should be happy. furthermore, Ipad is Created by a Human.... They are Creators.
creation doesn't need supporters
if you want an iwhatever, create your own, don't buy from other people
if you want a bed, create your own
I think that's what he meant
The iPad was nothing new. In fact, Apple hasn't come up with anything actually new since 1993 - when they introduced the Newton, the original portable touch-screen computer. And Steve Jobs was subhuman; the real brains at Apple was Steve Wozniak, who left because Jobs was a tool.
Can some one tell me why this site always uses words like onanist and pantsu? Its just odd to me since the rest of it is in total English then these words are thrown in out of the blue.
Does pantsu mean anything more than just panties that i don't get?
i salute you miyazaki :)
I wonder if Miyazaki realizes that there are more creators than ever these days, its just, their not GOOD creators (look at youtube).
With all due respect Miyazaki san, you're starting to show your age.
It's not about likings or biased products, but about the will to create something.
I call it iPed
wise words by the master ( as I read this webpage on my iPad...)
Word can't describe how happy i am after reading this.
After becoming Ghibli fans , now he comes to this statement which has 100% similarity for what i am thinking all this time.
Of course, many retarded ass sucking apple fans only knows to lick and buy everything Steve Jobs spew at.
You just a tool, add with consumerism mindless moron mental attitude.
And i'm really speechless to some people here who pointing the problem as Miyazaki wants us to watch his anime instead buying apple products.
Thats not the point dumbass.
He wants us to THINK, not to consume anything cause its new trend and dandy.
While Miyazaki provides us with anime to enriching our imagination, and how it relates to the current world, steve jobs provides us with product to make us less like lazy social parasite arrogant human being.
Wake up moron.
I thought what he said was fucking awesome and I agree with him in a way.
This isn't just an old man in him speaking. Miyazaki was always known for his remarkably rebellious and anti-establishment views. This is very rare amongst Japanese, who are taught to conform from an early age. When he was young, I heard he even played a hand in radical communist circles, but that's beside the point. He says it like it is. Today we live in a culture of consumer totalitarianism. We always need to buy the newest and the latest stuff in order to conform to peer pressure and impress our friends.
Seriously what good is an Iphone? It's just another piece of useless electronic garbage that will get replaced by some "next" generation gizmo in a few years, and people will fork out another 300-400 dollars to buy it. This has nothing to do with actual progress of technology. He rails against society's shallowness, it's obsession with material wealth and expensive electronic baubles.
His message is controversial which lot of people don't like. But I can understand perfectly where he, as a creator, is coming from. He spent his entire life giving us these movies he labored so hard on. Much to his chagrin, they're always treated as consumer products. I bet at the end of the day, he feels no different than a starter of a chain of house cleaning products. Is he really happy about the fact that his works essentially launched a wave of superflat mania in the country? I don't think he intended his artistic creations to serve as a basis for a hypersexualized subculture. Of course it all makes him shocked and bitter. To him, every new bit of technology is just a tool for satisfying the public's base desires.
He's sorta right, for the wrong reasons. People are stupid regardless of whether they own an iPad or not. Technology itself signifies the progress of the human race. The thing is that technology makes it easier to have instant gratification. Enjoying ourselves is not new; using an iPad is just as mastabatory as reading a book or playing sport.
So I guess the point is to stop enjoying ourselves so much and work so that others can enjoy themselves.
Reading on public transit: perfectly fine, be it books or manga
Using laptops (and iPads, portable consoles etc) on public transit: fine unless they are disturbing others, with sound for instance
Listening to music with headphones: also fine unless it's really loud
Using a cell phone: Annoying but won't go away
If you're not overtly loud and disturb others it's no big deal, just like normal conversations face to face
Actually, Japan is pretty anal about people doing anything in a train or subway car besides looking bored, staring straight ahead, or sleeping. They even put up signs telling people to not read newspapers and discouraging women from applying makeup while taking public transit. Hell, this social disapproval has shamed people to such an extent that they "brown bag" their manga and novels - covering them in a brown, neutral dust jacket - so that no one can figure out what they're reading.
lol, even though the iWhatever is such an innocent thing. iot doesn't take your virginity away.
Miyazaki owns, sorry if the truth hurts you guys.
iSucks
I'm still waiting for the day some company just overpowers them and show them how is done right. Maybe Google will be next on the line of successors
Miyazaki is saying people who mindlessly consume lead ignorant, unproductive lives that ultimate amount to nothing and that observing this phenomenon infuriates him.
When told that technology like the iPad enriches people's lives, Miyazaki rebukes that by saying the guy has no concept of hard work nor the skills it fosters; he goes onto express that novel innovations in technology will never substitute it.
His closing line harks back to a day when practically every person had productive skills: cooking, carpentry, machinery, etc.
You can't learn a language from a computer program, at some point you'll have to go communicate with another human being for any meaningful gain.
This is why I think his rant was great until his line about everyone as a creator. Were the engineers behind the iPad and its subcomponents just a bunch of mooks?
Him and his ilk all too readily forget that behind every gadget they despise is real human passion and creativity.
Which is more than offset by the sheep consuming said technology, turning the "creators" into technocratic dictators, whether these "creators" like it or not.
oh i hate the ipad fanboys too, do i get an article?
Miyazaki is the man. Agree 100% with him here.
"This man makes things I like, I must agree with him 100%, no matter what shit he manages to shove out of his mouth!"
I love how old people whine, whine, whine and die. HA!
miyazaki is a boring idiot, as moralists tend to be.
Hey guy, I believe the words Miyazaki used isnt as simply as it means there are hidden messages within ...although it may sound crude but that's still pretty cool, still my guess is that maybe he just wants to express his concern about more and more people now are being "enslaved" to apple
Old people are so adorable! xD
so true five stars im tired of the ijunkies
everybody missunderstood his point, wich is that technology that is supposed to bring thw world closer is actually separating individuals from each other, and that buying and "iwhatever" is not actually buying the product but the social status it represents
That's up to how the people use it.
Don't blame the technology itself.
You'd think Miyazaki would be a little more classy than that. I didn't see this kind of comment coming from a man who has made some of my most cherished movies.
normaly i would say what the hell but then again it is fucking miyazaki i think he knows somethign we dont
So he is saying get "Get a Job you losers!"?
even if you don't like it...
even with the gay subcontext...
even if you hate his stuff...
he is right! people have fallen to the system, humanity has fallen into a pit hole
nothing is worth anything anymore, why bother with anything ?
i mean i would prefer if instead of having all this cool devices, we had a cure for Cancer, Aids, if we hadn't started spoiling the sea in our greed for that devil's shit called oil, but instead we can settle for being ugly fat and masturbate to our lovely 2d lolis while the world burns outside.
I stand behind Miyazaki's point of view 100%
I say 80
I can see the logic and it's not an unreasonable thing to say.
lol I stand behind what he was saying yeah but the way he put it across made it seem like a bitter old man rejecting technology ...I mean ....to have something against cassete players lol
Miyazaki's only positive technological memories come from his days as an ancient Greek sailor.
A fellow iPad haeter he is. I approve, except to say this: thinkers -> creators -> consumers.
The more creators you have with an adequate amount of thinkers, all's right (theoretically). Consumers are radical variables.
I never liked this person...