Police: “Chikan Guilty Until Proven Innocent”

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A man accused of groping a schoolgirl on a train was exonerated in court by forensic tests of the alleged victim’s pantsu which could find no trace of his DNA, but in spite of a not guilty verdict police still refuse to acknowledge this “unexpected” outcome, and are considering an appeal.

The 35-year-old Saitama prefecture man found himself accused of groping a schoolgirl on a packed rush hour train, and police rapidly charged him.

Unlike untold numbers of other falsely accused men, rather than accept the charges and plead guilty, he resolved to fight the charges, but he soon found that, unlike in normal criminal trials where defendants are innocent until proven guilty, when accusations of sexual assault are levelled against a man he is expected to prove his innocence to courts.

His alleged victim claimed he had put his hand up a skirt and copped a feel, causing him to be arrested on the spot. Strenuously denying the charges from the outset, police still prosecuted on the girl’s word, with prosecutors saying “We can trust the word of his victim when she says ‘I caught the hand of the person who groped me'”, and seeking a ¥400,000 fine.

Such a case would normally result in a conviction, but astonishingly the accused was able to prove his innocence – DNA testing of the alleged victim’s pantsu failed to demonstrate any match between material found and samples taken from his hand, and forensic tests of fabric residue were unable to find any trace of his garments on her clothing.

Under just what circumstances the girl’s pantsu and uniform were taken by police is not described.

The court found him innocent – he reportedly wept for joy at hearing the verdict.

However, police are still considering appealing the verdict, on grounds which can only be guessed at.

A lawyer involved in one of the rare cases of successful defence against chikan charges relates the prevailing police attitude:

“Police will proceed with a prosecution even if they don’t have sufficient evidence.

Despite all the attention false charges of groping are attracting, police and prosecutors just don’t care. Even in this case, although the objective evidence was enough to demonstrate his innocence, the prosecutor still said it was an ‘unexpected verdict.'”

With some men driven to suicide by brutal police handling of such cases, pressure is most certainly mounting.

A support group for victims of false accusations is even more scathing:

“The police should know the results of their tests on the fabric and DNA. But in spite of this they are still considering launching an appeal against the innocent verdict!

They’re actually denying the results of their own forensic testing, which they claim to have absolute confidence in!”

A candid police source reveals their thinking about the issue:

“The base criminals responsible for these attacks are nothing but lies and excuses from start to finish, it’s a real shame their victims are put through this. If there’s nothing at stake for either party, our assumption must be that ‘the chances of him being the perpetrator are extremely high.’

We don’t just blindly accept the woman’s testimony, but with our hatred of this despicable crime,  in the end I suppose it comes down to ‘contempt for men.'”

Recent years have seen courts become increasingly concerned about seeing actual evidence of such crimes provided, but in the end it remains impossible for male commuters riding Japan’s overcrowded trains to avoid contact with female passengers, and when accidental contact does occur proving  it was not intentional is a virtual impossibility.

It would appear that travellers on Japan’s rail network unfortunate enough to be male must still prepare for the worst in the event of being convicted on the basis of the infallible testimony of a woman in a packed train.


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    Avatar of Lilith
    Comment by Lilith
    10:19 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Women after easy money? Surprising.... not!

    Avatar of GuhROOgaTRAVIS
    Comment by GuhROOgaTRAVIS
    10:48 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think they get any of the money from the fine.

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    Comment by Lilith
    10:56 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They do, or do you really think she is just seeking divine retribution upon those sinners?

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    Comment by MasterYuke
    11:23 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everyone is guilty until proven innocent, even when they say it is the opposite. The truth is that if you are sent to court for a crime you did not commit, you are still going to jail just because something illegal happened and they don't want to have to search for the real perpetrator.

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    Comment by Japanisokay
    12:08 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it's funny because I've heard plenty of stories about how girls will try to report rapes and be laughed at by the police in Japan. And yet in these cases it's the men who are presumed guilty. What a world!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:28 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is true MasterYuke. Otherwise how are innocent people sent to jail even when no one set them up?
    Also instead of committing suicide I would rape the bitch or if she's ugly pay someone else to rape her.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:47 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ Reminded me of The Shawshank Redemption, a great movie.

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    Comment by casiopao
    14:51 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And with this thing to happen those feminist still said that they were after for equality.

    Suck MY Ass!!!

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    Comment by alidan
    14:57 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i would carry a concealed 2 inch blade, assuming such a thing isn't illegal in japan, or at worst a box cutter. if im going to be accused of a crime and me life is going to all but end ill slit the bitched thought and than my own.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:22 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Nothing at stake for either part"

    Well, the girl was aiming for a ¥400,000 fine, I'd say that mean there is something she wants with the case.

    What if he claimed she was trying to pickpocket her? I heard that would make the girls change their accusation pretty quick.

    "Oh, eh... maybe I was wrong... umm... I, am late for... eh... something... gottago!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:41 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So not only do we have femnazi's we have femenazi's. Considering Japan as well it's likely that the girls are the largest perverts in all these cases, i mean they sell their pantsu, their underwear, themselves, they shorten their skirts, in a lot of cases it has to be bear baiting, but probably in just as much cases they are the criminal, but what stops the girl 'copping the feel'...?

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    Comment by GuhROOgaTRAVIS
    22:04 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The prosecutors are seeking the fine, not the girl. Reread the sentence. The prosecutors are just quoting the girl's words, but are the ones seeking the fine. Both of those bits of information are in the same sentence, so I can see how you were confused. Plus, law doesn't work like that buddy.

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    Comment by tyciol
    06:23 22/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think it shows the media bias that they refer to the girl as 'the victim'. This actually assumes a crime occured.

    It's one thing when something is obvious (like obviously there is a murder victim if you find a corpse) but with other crimes like this, we should say 'the accuser'.

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    Comment by kumesana
    22:24 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They might offer to settle down for monetary compensation, and pretend they never did and let the prosecutor go ahead if denied the free money.

    I'm sure a lot of different situations happen.

    Then again, women have their women-only trains carriages. Men can walk female-deserted streets.

    Avatar of Moe Cyclops Bishoujo
    Comment by Mika the Banned
    11:35 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And why the fuck are there "women-only" carriages if they don't fucking use them. "ALL the women should only ride those" That should be made a rule.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:07 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    NO! THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO GROPE THEM!

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    Comment by basilio
    13:52 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    We can always become a policeman and get free access to both schoolgirl pantsu AND uniform.

    That's the only reason why they are appealing. So they can hang on to the "evidence" for longer.

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    Comment by basilio
    13:58 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    We can always become policemen and get free access to both schoolgirl pantsu AND uniform.

    That's the only reason why they are appealing. So they can hang on to the "evidence" for longer.

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    Comment by shiroki
    14:26 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Heroic infiltration, disguise optional

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    Comment by basilio
    16:23 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    We can always become policemen and get free access to both schoolgirl pantsu and uniform.

    That's the only reason why they are appealing. So they can hang on to the "evidence" for longer.

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    Comment by TehBoringOne
    16:46 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Disguising as a woman in order to grope a woman... Quite a novel concept.

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    Comment by basilio
    19:01 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow, triple post... I thought the comment didn't go through when it didn't appear a few hours later. My apologies.

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    Comment by Kei-chan
    19:03 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've been having alot of problems with my comments showing up hours to days later, its indeed annoying but what am i going to do about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:08 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    they should expect a grope if they refuse to ride the women only carriages

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    Comment by An Otaku's Opiate
    12:33 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not all train lines have women-only cars, even in Tokyo.

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    Comment by Mika the Banned
    12:39 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So them feminazis fail even more huh.

    Avatar of Master Evil The Return!
    13:49 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    from the moment the became feminazis there was only fail......

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:00 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes this is true, only a certain line have the women-only carriages.

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    Comment by alidan
    15:00 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    there should be woman only and men only and thats that.

    if a woman goes on a man only she can be beaten to death.

    and there will be a unisex one, just in case there is spillover form either carriage. and this one will cost an extra 2$ to ride in, because it will have 12hd security cameras covering damn near every angle, and there will be a passenger limit, so there is no accidents, and if there is it will be caught on one of those cameras.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:30 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wtf man, do you know how freaking full the male only section is and how spacious the female only section is. This method is hardly fair or right and is just something feminazis planned to give them more dominance over males.

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    Comment by kumesana
    22:30 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    > there should be woman only and men only and thats that.

    I don't go to Japan all that often, but that'd be awesome if I could just travel beside my female friends when I go.

    Let alone if I do happen to be dating someone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 17/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    what happen with equality?
    why do we need different section in train?
    to give more space for women who not many of them in train compare to men who'll be crowded in male section?

    and what about female who groping male passengers?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    bump

    (oops wrong forum)

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:32 31/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Obviously. Not grop women is not an option.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:18 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You guys are missing the point and are placing the anger at the wrong target.

    Firstly, the woman does not get the fine duh...

    Secondly, the ones pushing for the conviction is the police!

    ( We are not arguing the fact whether he is guilty or not, but the way the police is handling the case.)

    I can't believe there are people stupid enough to think that the public receives money from court fines... It is a fine you know? Different from compensation... *facepalm*

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    Comment by Mika the Banned
    13:41 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yea! Why the fuck would a grope victim get compensations of any sort! Crazy stuff I tell ya!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:03 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Criminal charge and civil charge. They're(Woman) waiting for the criminal charge to be sentence on the man in order to strengthen their civil case. Harder to prove his fault for mental damage on civil cases alone if they can't prove he did it. If he's criminally sentenced then it "proves" he did it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:45 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The women might or might not bring up a civil case afterwards but that is not the thing we are talking about is it? We are talking about how horrid the police is handling the case. They are the ones who are pushing the case.

    This just feels like retcon... Trying to push the argument after being proven that there is a fault in your reasoning. Just drop it; you are a dumbass for arriving at that conclusion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:52 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If that girl came up and admit she made it all up or concede that she might have mistaken the guy groping her I doubt the police will be able to further pursue this case.

    If the police are willing to appeal, I'm sure that the girl keeps saying that, without doubt, that guy groped her.

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    Comment by Kei-chan
    19:05 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Take a look at the last story like this (too lazy to go back for a link), where the girl falsely charges the guy and her friends beat him up. Then he was arrested and charged with the crimes, but then the girl said she was drunk and it didn't happen but they still pressed charges.

    So even if you didn't do it, and even if the other side tells them the same...it doesn't mean shit to the japanese police.

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    Comment by kumesana
    22:35 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Admittedly the Japanese police is a WTF here. That doesn't mean a woman is not to be blamed for falsely accusing a man until he gets arrested, whatever the reason is.

    (Now if the woman is drunk and does retract accusations later, I'd blame the police 99.9% for not dropping it. You're not supposed to wander in public areas drunk, that's not even legal. But society accepts it as a minor offense.)

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    Comment by alidan
    08:59 06/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no, being drunk is ok. but being disorderly and drunk isnt.

    its hard to explain but i asked a cop about this once, because its illegal to drink in public and its (i thought) illegal to be drunk in public, than why the fuck inst alcohol illegal.

    basically what she said was the drunk and disorderly is when they do something bad in public, its like a modifier. say, pukeing in and of itself isn't bad, and many will show concern for you. but being drunk and pukeing you are able to be fined for your dumb ass behavior even though its pukeing its different circumstances.

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    Comment by kumesana
    16:51 06/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was just trying to keep it short. I think being drunk and falsely accusing someone of a crime qualifies as bad behavior.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:17 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you should see this japanese movie called ' it wasn't me' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0794350/ the story is strikingly similar

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    14:48 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Really sad really.

    If you think about it, this isn't bad only for the men, but the women as well. It's bad for the men because they get broadly stereotyped without the ability to make a solid case if it was a contentious groping incident. On the second hand, women who are actual victims of sexual incidents gets marginalized as gold diggers or crying wolves when they may actually being victimized.

    I kind of understand how this dynamic works, because I just don't get any slack for being pretty big for an asian guy and you won't believe how much vile look-backs from women I get. This honestly can't be good for male-female relations for these scam artists to make light of all this.

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    Comment by cupcake_deluxe
    23:48 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This! It sucks when articles come out like this and it's time for the comments to bash all women. So annoying. :( But what's wrong with tall Asian guys? (lol I had a crush on one from a podcast) Unless you make a scary face, I don't see what's worthy of vile looks.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    14:57 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh trust me, cupcake. I actually think I'm far more mellow than most people I know but I get vile looks from everyone. And it seems women just don't like the idea of seeing a big, tall asian guy.. It's like people have this preconception that asian guys are always short.

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    Comment by kumesana
    22:46 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Most comments do *not* bash all women, but do bash women *at fault of these kinds of things*.

    I know it's hard to tell your feelings to get the difference. But the difference is here, plain hard matter-of-factly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:04 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If it makes you feel better, the typical Sankaku goon would rail and screech against 'feminazis' (who, as we know, are bad because of all their railing and screeching,) groper story or no groper story.

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    20:04 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Taking a woman's word at face value? Obviously these police are dangerously naive...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:06 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As opposed to taking a man's word at face value, something obviously all sane and rational cops should do?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 09/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well BC could've worded that differently, but I would think that taking neither one's word, and actually investigating the case WITHOUT USING THEIR BIAS as motivation would be the ideal, but that's apparently asking too much.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:43 17/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    its wrong to take the man's word at face value?
    they dont even take the DNA result at fact values!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:41 04/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a fucked up world!

    Well, offence is the best defence. Let's see how the cops work it out if a guy calls a girl a groper. Wonder if the girls will be 'guilty until proven innocent'.

    And those feminists still think they need more 'rights'. Fuck them! Make me a sammich!

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    Comment by xRif
    03:17 05/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yap, women get paid by the police. police got extra cash/raise. the whole story is probably setup.







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