Nintendo: “Move & Natal Only Wii Copies”

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Nintendo legend Shigeru Miyamoto has dismissed Microsoft’s Project Natal and Sony’s Move motion controllers as mere copies of the Wii.

In comments to the press, the creator of Mario and Zelda subtly alluded to the less than original conception of Microsoft and Sony’s new controllers:

“Whenever something we have created and presented is followed by copies, we always feel it is threatening.

More than that, we’re concerned that others are trying to do something similar for the sake of it. It’s not encouraging to Nintendo.”

More surprising than these remarks is that Nintendo has not been able to tie up the two competitors in endless rounds of patent litigation – perhaps a strategic blunder on Nintendo’s part, not that either competitor seems to present a real threat to the Wii.


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    Avatar of TheLAG
    Comment by TheLAG
    12:56 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    NOOOOOO.
    REEEEEE~ALY?

    The public couldn't have possibly seen this without your statement, Miyamoto.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:23 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Copies

    BUT WORKING COPIES OF WHAT NINTENDO PROMISED

    God damnit Miyamoto, Head goes outside ass before talking.

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    Comment by Kei-chan
    17:46 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If people didn't copy from everyone else, we would still be living in caves chasing sabretooth tigers with sticks. Its something that happens, and its helped the world advance.

    The playstation "Move" prototype was supposedly made before the wii was released, can't remember where the site was, if thats true then wouldn't wii be the copiers? Reguardless if it is a "copy" the Move is functionally superior to the wiimote, its pretty much the better mocap suit of the gaming world. Hell depending on how well Natal can react and perform, it might be the best mocap for awhile.

    I bet i'll have 8 million butthurt nintendo fanboys downrating my post for this and calling me a stupid fag. But i've made my point, bitch and cry all you want but without coping your little wii wouldn't exist.

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    Comment by SnooSnoo
    11:36 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a dumb move. The Wii has already proven that not everyone is into jumping around while playing their games. Sony and Microsoft are just digging their graves with these "new" remotes.

    "More than that, we’re concerned that others are trying to do something similar for the sake of it."

    Copying for the sake of it indeed

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:27 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't make me laugh, Nintendo. Didn't you copy Sony's Playstation disc-based system instead of keeping the stupid cartridge system?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:54 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who copied Philips and 3DO to begin with ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:14 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    For god's sake, lol... are we going to start picking on who copied the transistor next?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:05 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey, that stupid cartridge system was easier to fix than those scratched disks. Well, until they got smaller than your finger.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:55 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're joking, right? Sony entered a partnership with Nintendo to develop a CD-ROM add-on for the SNES. Nintendo copied nothing. Nintendo then stabbed Sony in the back by joining forces with Philips for the CD-i and telling Sony nothing of the new deal. This is as low as you can go in Japanese society.

    Sony took their technology and turned it into the PlayStation. Thank god karma is a bitch.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:11 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think there's much they can do Natal.

    Move is quite similar but probably different enough to also be safe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:12 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's to be expected... Miyamoto really isn't - I mean this seriously - isn't really into video games, right? He doesn't follow the news, he doesn't play the competition's games.

    So I guess he missed the last 15 years of PC webcam games, though to be fair, I think they probably peaked in the late 90s... and sucked.

    That's really what Move and Natal are though - the Wiimote is closer in function to the Power Glove. IR, sonar, no big diff - it's multi-beacon sensor tracking to drive a cursor interface. The other two are robot vision software to interpret feeds from a camera.

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    Comment by SpideyPHL
    10:11 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Natal is overpriced, impractical crap, I'm not going to get it. Move, however, shows some promise for being able to do Wii in HD basically, and better than the original. Sure, Nintendo may have popularized it, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved on...well, we'll see if any decent games come out using Move when it comes out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:33 05/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Two future failing product, may be...two future hack products that can be use anywhere, win!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:10 05/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    for as long as motion controllers lack force feed back they will always be shit

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 05/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I see where they're coming from accusing Move of being a Wii copy, but Natal seems more like an Eyetoy copy to me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:14 09/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    omg an absolute 1:1 copy.
    just pathetic.

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    Comment by DeRosset
    17:26 01/06/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have the PlayStation Move and, honestly, it's pretty awful. It keeps miscalibrating, especially in games like Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead 4. Nintendo's Wii remote is not perfect even with Plus but at least the pointer stays on target instead of constantly drifting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:02 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They are ignoring the fact that the wii itself is a ripoff of a controller which was already available for the pc when motocorss madness 1 was released.

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    Comment by Draith
    19:25 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I seriously fail to see how the Natal or the Move will get any decent succes. Most of the 'hardcore' gamers are already bored with the flailing movement controls and I doubt Microsoft or Sony would release hardcore games that can only be played with the Natal or Move.

    Which leaves the casual crowd, but why get the ps3 or xbox360 and then spend another 100 euros when you can get the Wii for a third of that price? There are plenty of games for the casual gamer on the Wii.

    I could actually see the Natal having some succes if it's really innovative and all, but I don't think the Move will.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auHSErC6ssE

    The PC (once again) pwns them all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:59 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's pretty simple. Nintendo is making a killing in profits from the Wii and DS due to their ease of use and expansion into non-gamers.

    Sony and Microsoft only see $$$ and they want as much of the pie as possible.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:31 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Project Natal is not a copy or the Wii, its a copy of the eye toy but I think SOny gave up on that, sony's magic wond? hell yes thats a copy.

    If project Natal actually works (which considering that fact they probobly had this in development for years since the eye toy) then yes it will and it will kick f*cking ass, without breaking f*cking TV lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:28 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't really get it.
    Move is just an revisit of the EyeToy, now you can use it without destroying your flat.
    Natal is just an EyeToy knockoff, complete with house destroying width requirements.
    The Wii was just a console version of the Sega Dreamcast motion sensor.
    Then again, if one company isn't going to do anything with their so called innovative features. Might as well let the others have a crack at it, if that's what the people want.

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    Comment by euheretic
    02:38 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If God says. It's true.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:32 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can agree with them about Move, but I think Natal is bringing something new to the table even if the initial impetus behind it was sparked by Nintendo's success with the Wii.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:45 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    New how? Its a EyeToy rip off, you know, the thing that came out LAST generation. Gay move Microsoft, gay move.

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    Comment by Rya
    02:34 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    “Whenever something we have created and presented is followed by copies, we always feel it is threatening".

    And what they really just said is: "You just copy us everytime. You suck."

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:05 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Move is a superior Wii Clone in my opinion. While Natal ganks the premise but implements it in a radical way. Personally PSmove mixes tactile controls that everyone needs(life is motion and tact) where natal is just too fluid wave hands in the air sort of deal without any "gravity" if that makes any sense.

    Natal has more UI and casual promise(outside of games). Where PSMove is purely game related.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:21 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So the real question is, will we connect Natal with USB? If so imagine hooking one up to your PC with 3rd party drivers and playing hentai games.
    OH YEAH.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:15 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think it's funny how Nintendo called wiimote "way of the future gaming" and now they're getting pissed about others copying them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    even i 'm sony fanboy but i must agree with that title - copy freak

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:31 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    sony did it first when it comes to game consoles (pc's had software for this long before even eyetoy)...actually the following tech demo would have taken place in the planning stages for both sony and nintendo, so microsoft is the only copycat if there was one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSzmRt7HhQ

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:30 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    How the hell is Natal a copy? Whatever your feelings are about Natal's future are, they have nothing to do with what it actually is. It's a movement detector, not a motion controller. Hell, motion controllers of all kinds have been out since duck hunting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:33 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "How the hell is Natal a copy?"

    Because Sony's EyeToy did it first.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:23 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I played motion-sensor games using a webcam in 2001. EyeToy ripped off an existing product...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Er, no. Natal is a LOT more than just a camera.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:43 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Er, yes. The Eyetoy was more than a camera. It had games that could only be played with the Eyetoy. Sony did all of this shit before Nintendo and Microsoft.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:40 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Eyetoy and Natal aren't all that similar. Eyetoy couldn't do much of the things Natal does, or why would Sony launch Move?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:28 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yes they are copies. They are more advanced than wii but still copies. And as if i care. This whole motion sensing wands and cams is load of bullshit use normal controller on don't play games at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:37 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thanks for stating the obvious, Nintendo. :P

    Of course they're copies of the Wii controller.

    But until they are standard equipment, I doubt there will be a significant number of games that use them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:37 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nintendo's chief failing, without motion control, wii games are unimmersive!!!

    What Xbox and Ps3 can do as an add on, is something Nintendo does as a core. No wonder they feel threatened.

    Better hardware will kill nintendo, even these rip-offs since they can exceed what ninty can do...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:38 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's fair to say that the PS Move seems to be a copy, but NATAL is no such thing. NATAL is more like a copy of the Eye Toy than the Nintendo Wii.

    I don't know of any XBOX or Playstation fan that's interested in the Move or NATAL. I'm sure there are some, but the Wii has a niche market.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The wii has a young market, PS3 mostly has the older share of the market. Xbox though will generate plenty of profit with Natal, they're in the middle of the age demographics and their product is much more innovative than a remote. But yeah an evolution based on the eye-toy, I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
    Nintendo will just keep doing its thing i'm sure.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:43 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    loool true but dude i can buy a dsi with the money i spend on natal and thats pretty assy

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:22 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was just keeping with the popular vernacular, everyone calling everything a ripoff. I know enough of how NATAL works that I can't even call it an improvement on the eye-toy, such are the differences.

    All things considered, I'm curious as to how it will play out, but not adventurous enough to make bets.

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    Comment by Kei-chan
    17:31 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have to agree, i don't get why people call NATAL a rip off of the Wii Mote or the PS Eye. Natal is such a step up from the Eye that it can't be called a rip off, it just uses similar technology. Lots of other things in the world use similar technology but do different things. All this story has done has stirred up more butthurt nintendo fanboys.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:33 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh Nintendo... You came and you flamed rip-off products... But then they're doomed to fail, Nintendo.

    I, personally am not understanding the 'attack' on Sony and Microsoft, the failure of both of their products will be hard enough on them, Nintendo's comment is just the icing on the long awaited fail-cake.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:34 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not even an attack. He is just tired of others always copying stuff made by Nintendo. Nintendo invented the A / B Button and the D-Pad and basically every other freaking part there is to a controller nowadays up till now. Saw any of the consoles before Nintendos first? They failed in epic proportions.

    And others always copied the stuff made by Nintendo. No original ideas. Seriously, if I were him I would sigh at the failbox and gaystation too.

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    Comment by Kei-chan
    17:26 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh boo hoo, you two butthurt nintendo fanboys need to get over it. Everyone copies everyone else, thats why when you go buy coca-cola theres 15 knockoffs next to it. Quit your bitching like a bunch of children.

    How do you know "Move" and "Natal" will fail? Can you predict the future with absolute accuracy? If not shut up and watch.

    I happen to like the idea of the Move for the PS3. Because it works in tandum with the Eye, giving it better range, accuracy, and area of control. The Wii mote when not aimed at the console area just guesses, giving it a worse area of control. Natal itself is a nice step up cause its bringing the possibilities of 3D picturing and all beyond that, which is a good advancement for the gaming industry.

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    Comment by Neonie
    01:22 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why would Nintendo waste money trying to combat two future failing products their user bases aren't interested in the first place?

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    Comment by obro
    02:48 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    idk man I am very interested in my PS3

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    Comment by Dia
    03:19 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He meant the motion controllers, stupid.

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    Comment by TheLAG
    12:59 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    3D is coming to PS3.
    That alone sells the Move for me. The Wii's lack of HD is quite annoying, to say the least.

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    Comment by obro
    04:45 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    it has potential if done right.it's a wee more advanced than wiimote so I am hoping.

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    Comment by Majineko
    05:30 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    plus with graphics...so im kinda interested too. think about all the potential m rated games on the wii being ported to the ps3. resident evil, mad world, cod, fatal frame, etc. i really think copying is win move in this situation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is there any chances that there might be 'new play control' ps3 games?

    Imagine HD gaming with 'new play control' games...

    The games are different on the ps3 from the wii aren't they?, games that gamers actually like are on the ps3, so it'll be interesting to see some games that nintendo didn't get, with NPC...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:43 04/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe not interested, but comments by Microsoft about Natal seems to imply they are going after a similar audience as the Wii's current crowd. And anyone who like motion controls but hates the quality issues with the Wii's third party games may be interested in other platforms, especially Move.






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