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Epic Games, makers of such manly shooters as Unreal and Gears of War, claim piracy forced them to abandon the PC, and that Facebook based gaming may be the only viable future the platform has.

In an interview with a gaming rag, Epic Games president Mike Capps spoke about the reason the company abandoned the PC:

“If you walked into [Epic’s offices] six years ago, Epic was a PC company. We did one PS2 launch title, and everything else was PC. And now, people are saying ‘Why do you hate the PC? You’re a console-only company.’

We still do PC, we still love the PC, but we already saw the impact of piracy: it killed a lot of great independent developers and completely changed our business model.

And guess what? It’s because the money’s on console.

Although many will attempt to dismiss this as hyperbole, it may well be supported by the facts – traditional US PC gaming shrank from a $1.6 billion market in 2001 to a $538 million market in 2009, whilst console markets grew substantially in the same period.

He goes on to laud the successes of micropayment based Facebook game Farmville, the “biggest game of all right now”:

“So, maybe Facebook will save PC gaming, but it’s not going to look like Gears of War.”


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    Comment by Reichi
    09:48 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Frankly, I wish companies would find a different cause for their lose of sales in some area or another. I can see choosing console over PC a choice caused by economics. Why spend money on upgrading a computer to play a new game when the console you've had for so many years is still compatible?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:39 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actual Article:

    Capps discusses the rise of free-to-play microtransaction based games, like Farmville, the “biggest game of all right now.”

    “So, maybe Facebook will save PC gaming,” he concludes, “but it’s not going to look like Gears of War.”

    Sankaku version:

    He goes on to laud the successes of micropayment based Facebook game Farmville, the “biggest game of all right now”:

    “So, maybe Facebook will save PC gaming,” he concludes, “but it’s not going to look like Gears of War.”

    Internet Spin-Doctoring FTW

    discusses the rise =/= laud the successes

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    Comment by Artefact
    14:27 19/05/2010 # ! Incalculable

    Both articles are commenting on an interview published in a third publication, so both interpretations are equally valid, are they not?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:45 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then make a quality game so people will be hyped up to actually buy the game...

    Like, I dunno, every freaking Blizzard game?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:26 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sad to see how piracy killed PC games like it killed Microsoft Windows. O wait.
    This is a stupid argument since it was used first when vinyl records started and musicians were afraid no one would buy tickets to their concerts.
    Plenty of other software is pirated every moment, piracy is only used as a lame excuse.
    Valve, to name one, continues making and selling PC games to their leisure and as seen in the lax use of deadlines for their own games, understands much better that the creative process should not be forced if you want a quality product in the end.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    14:27 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You pretty much hit the mail on the head.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:32 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Guess where I'm gonna be on the 27th july?? Yes at my local store to buy the next fail PC game. I think it's called Starcraft II

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:38 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is total BS since the "so called" figures don't even include online distribution like Steam so you can't even trust those figures at all. The real reason they abandoned the PC is the money. The amount of people that can buy a game console compared to the amount of people that can afford a gaming PC is very large so in general there are far more people on consoles. This means that the console industry is bigger which means a larger potential in sales. Instead of making $1 million on a game they can make $3 million on a game so greedy companies look at that and abandon the PC market or make their games for all systems to make the maximum profit. Piracy is just an excuse to be greedy.

    PS. Most independant developers got absorbed into the big game companies like EA and most of that happened before Piracy became popular.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:19 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    NO! It's TOUHOU to save PC!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:16 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    HARVEST MOON FTW!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:19 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, it killed it for Epic, not others. They're just kind of sore that Gears of War PC underperformed while not keeping in mind that it might've been just that no one really cared about that particular game on the platform.

    I still do the absolute majority of my gaming on PC, and Steam's convenience is partly responsible for that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:27 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In a few of words... No more gamers

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    Comment by motaku96
    12:41 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can't blame it all on piracy. It's just easier to sell to platforms.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    14:37 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's also easier to program for as the hardware specs are constant and the OS versions are constant.

    There is no making sure it'll run with this cpu or that video card or under XP,Vista, and Seven.

    As for piracy it's not all that hard to play backups on many consoles.

    The only thing they have been able to stop is piracy of online games.

    The wii is stupid easy to pirate yet it's the only console that is officially sold with a profit and the games still make a good profit.

    I do suspect Sony pulls an Apple on the PS3 now and sells it for much more then it costs to make as the chips should be a lot cheaper now then they were on release date.
    Once cell was taken to 45nm the number of devices per wafer would have been nearly doubled over the original 90nm version.
    Yield is slightly lower on the newer process.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:34 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Online games killer is private servers...

    but then if the online game is good, it won't be bothered to be pirated.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:10 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Facebook gaming.

    You must be fucking kidding me

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    Comment by Meltyblood
    11:40 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ok how could you shy away from PC's lol when half the games developed were made on pc's in the first place than ported to a console?
    First of all how is shying away from PC going to help you curb piracy? I mean come on people are just as smart to crack these new consoles using any type of hack/mod chip and burned boot disks?
    And there are so many patches to tinker with the networks?
    Why would you want to develop on a console when the hardware cant even be upgraded?
    Its all about money.
    Selling all these stupid addons.
    Any way a game is made there will always be piracy.
    And facebook whos going to say it will go belly up just like myspace. then your games will die too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:08 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a bunch of idiots, oh wow epic games have been making awesome games since 1991 a lot of them happen to be pinball games. UT has been dying for quite a while, and I didn't like gears of war, but that's just me. You can take a look at epic games, epic lineup here http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/1949.html

    PC gaming has been dying since the floppy days apparently.

    I think we can all agree the DS and Wii are one of the easiest console and handheld you can play "backups" on. Yet nintendo seems to be doing pretty well for themselves these days compared to recent years.

    Yes piracy has killed PC gaming, it's dead. But if you want to be like that, PC gaming has always been "dead". A majority of the best titles have always come out on console first or only on console.

    And facebook is nothing but a fad until the next social network comes out. Remember myspace? A lot of people left myspace for facebook or have both, and they'll do the same for the next big network.

    The money has ALWAYS been on console, nothing has changed, epic games, stop crying and grow up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:25 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If Epic was pretty worried with piracy they should have switch to publishing and maintaining MMOGs

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    Comment by washuotaku
    07:20 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not like Pirates can't pirate games from Facebook; the reality is that games on Facebook are lame and not worth it.

    Oh No... You found a Ugly Pink Cow, would you like to make it into ground beef?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:16 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I finds it kindas stupids that this dudes don'ts realizez that Blizzard Entertainment is the causes of all PC Gaming Fails. Even if Epic is geared towards FPS, their own financial fail is because of shit games like Unreal Tournament 3 (Yes, I loved UT2k3).

    Fuckin' World of Warcraft killed all other MMos, and with Starcraft 2 and Cataclysm on the horizon.. not to mention Diablo 3.. who the fuck is going to compete? Dragon Age was good, but all I did in that game was get my male toon romantically involved with Zevran.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:13 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the fuck is a Facebook game?

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    Comment by Tateha
    07:07 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    epic games speak of epic fail.

    how appropriate.

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    Comment by Philosopher
    09:12 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Aw, ya beat me to it...

    Agreed.

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    Comment by Grim32
    07:55 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If I remember right Epic Games blamed Cheaters for the downfall of PC games before. Now piracy?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:16 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sales dropped because they console-ified games, less indepth, stupid menu systems that only work well with gamepads. Flash games are not real games!

    Lately ive just been playing WoW because at $15 USD a month its cheaper then buying crappy games that I could finish in 7 hours or less.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:19 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no, its because im sick of companies churning out shooter after shooter so i dont buy any of that crap.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:22 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    farmville has nothing on ninja saga "ninja saga the generic brand of naruto - rpg"

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:59 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ja well , what the fuck do they want . they dont release game for pc at same rate as they do for gaybox etc . Allen Wake was going to be for pc , but then they canceled it

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:22 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Epic's been dead to me ever since they stopped making games like Epic Pinball, Jill of the Jungle, Jazz Jackrabbit and One Must Fall 2097.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:23 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do they expect? With the burst of f2p online games and apps, of course they won't see as much profit. [http://socaltech.webs.com/apps/blog/].

    With emulators/online stores like Steam and download-able MMOs(rpgs, shooters, f2p) it speaks for itself. My suggestion is they need to get with the times and find a new , more profitable and secure way to launch their products instead of crying foul play and running to Facebook.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:51 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the game is worth buying then people will buy it. Plain and simple.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    09:07 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep...Money's pretty tight right now, and if you can get it for free, why the hell not..?

    Besides, I spend all my cash on Anime PVC figures, Nendoroids, and various, uh, anime memorabilia of Rika Fuurude...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What killed PC gaming is the constantly increasing (which are already ridiculous) specs you need to run a game decently.

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    Comment by Artefact

    The specs of consoles are increasing just as fast - just the hardware doesn't update as often.

    And besides, most PC games are console ports nowadays...

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:10 20/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, we can always play eroge and vn on pc. or maybe call of duty 2.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:19 20/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL What?! Farmville?? Are you SERIOUS?? Okay, so.. it wasn't all the latest and greatest upgrades that were needed to keep pc games running optimally, it was piracy that killed the PC gaming industry.. yeah okay.. sure. I guess the fact that people can't afford to spend 1000 dollars on PC upgrades in a year had nothing to do with it..

    Oh wait, and you expect FACEBOOK to save the PC gaming industry?! No wonder why Epic lost so much money, lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:27 20/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They couldn't compete with valve or blizzard for PC games and decided to play a nintendo move and change to the casual lolmarket of facebook.
    Nice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:56 20/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    maybe if they didn't take their best franchise in Unreal Tournament and shit all over it in the sequels they'd sell more games

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:58 20/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nlame your failures on piracy. Much easier.

    Comment by Anonymous
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    Comment by Chen-04
    02:38 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    More like the impact from people switching to Linux opting for console gaming instead.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 27/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    No idea. Epic never made anything that attracted my attention. I must be not homo after all.

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    Comment by jr2nd
    00:00 27/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    that's such a crock... piracy didn't kill pc games, piracy was on the ps2 and it didn't kill it, what did is either overpriced games, crap games or no games.

    companies allways blame "piracy" for falling sales -.-

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:00 23/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they love PC then why be ignorant and completely ignore the fact that Blizzard is ruling the PC market at the moment.

    I'm pretty sure everyone will BUY starcraft II, Diablo 3 and Cataclysm...

    Because they are online games and are actually WORTH the money. Game Developers recently have been flooding the market with poor ports or not bothering to do ports at all. SINGLE PLAYER games for PC are dead because they just aren't worth buying.

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    Comment by thunderlord
    21:04 19/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    its the same way with consoles, best exp fable 2 and 3, there not worth 60 us bucks more like 20 even thats pricey. and i played new games 60 bucks worth and they where just crap like call of duty modern war fag and the western game witch was a rip off of gears 2 but the controls sucked ass and lack of auto saves.

    i played bad 360 games. i rather a PC game anyday and mod the F out of it (ether fix alot or improve the fun

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    Comment by Hakufu1021
    13:24 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    EDIT: Sorry if this is a double post.

    1 platform says the state of PC gaming : Steam. If anyone knows what steam is, that is 100% proof Epic are BSing.

    The only reason why PC gaming is shrinking is the direct result of consoles. It's cheaper and more affordable because the systems are locked down. You don't have to pay for upgrades.

    Piracy has existed since the old amiga days on the PC. But yet it has flourished into a giant and then shrank. So why is that? It's not because of piracy. When piracy has been on the PC platform since 1985 at least.

    I don't think anyone has to do the math to figure out Epic is full of BS. They went to consoles because people can afford consoles more then full gaming PC's.

    But PC gaming is still alive and well. All the sales reports don't report on the UK, or any other country besides the US. Plus they don't report on digital distribution. Which is the best way to release a PC title in today's world. That's to much trouble for Epic games. Look at steam. 2 million concurrent users daily. Battlefield Bad Company 2 has at least a million users online daily. That's not even looking at direct 2 drive. EA downloader. Or any other form of Digital distribution.

    So if at least 2 million concurrent users on one form of gaming is PC dieing. Then I guess it has been dead for years and will be dead for years.

    Epic are just spewing it because they want more people to follow them into the console generation. But what people don't realize, including developers and publishers, is that when PC gaming dies.

    So does consoles. Who gives Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo the hardware for the consoles? PC hardware manufacturers like Intel, Amd, ATI, Nvidia. If PC gaming dies. That's billions of dollars each year taken away from those manufacturers. Which means bye bye consoles.

    TL:DR Epic games are full of BS. PC gaming is alive and well. Consoles are the only reason for PC gaming slowing down. Not piracy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:54 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Agree with Epic Games. If you work in any business - you work should be paid.
    PC = loosing money
    Console = profit
    nuff said

    PC-version of GTA4 was cracked in two weeks. The years of work nd million dollars and just two weeks.
    I've buyed PC-version Assasin's Creed II and what i got? A truly pervert game validation system with authenication on Ubisoft's servers. Just two weeks, and this crap has ended.

    Today we need to find a something new to prevent piracy on PC.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:05 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only reason why PC gaming is shrinking is the direct result of consoles. It's cheaper and more affordable because the systems are locked down. You don't have to pay for upgrades.

    Piracy has existed since the old amiga days on the PC. But yet it has flourished into a giant and then shrank. So why is that? It's not because of piracy. When piracy has been on the PC platform since 1985 at least.

    I don't think anyone has to do the math to figure out Epic is full of BS. They went to consoles because people can afford consoles more then full gaming PC's.

    But PC gaming is still alive and well. All the sales reports don't report on the UK, or any other country besides the US. Plus they don't report on digital distribution. Which is the best way to release a PC title in today's world. That's to much trouble for Epic games. Look at steam. 2 million concurrent users daily. Battlefield Bad Company 2 has at least a million users online daily. That's not even looking at direct 2 drive. EA downloader. Or any other form of Digital distribution.

    So if at least 2 million concurrent users on one form of gaming is PC dieing. Then I guess it has been dead for years and will be dead for years.

    Epic are just spewing it because they want more people to follow them into the console generation. But what people don't realize, including developers and publishers, is that when PC gaming dies.

    So does consoles. Who gives Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo the hardware for the consoles? PC hardware manufacturers like Intel, Amd, ATI, Nvidia. If PC gaming dies. That's billions of dollars each year taken away from those manufacturers. Which means bye bye consoles.

    TL:DR Epic games are full of BS. PC gaming is alive and well. Consoles are the only reason for PC gaming slowing down. Not piracy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:58 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tell that to Blizzard.

    Dear Epic, instead of crying in public because your shitty games you should try to develop better ones.

    Oh wait! you can't compete with Blizzard! nevermind... keep weeping

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:27 19/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    everything is pirated not just pcs. hell my friend has a modded wii that lets him download any game he pleases.

    and yet a pc only game the witcher sold over a million copies pc only AND








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