USA: No Trial Needed for Lolicon Life Imprisonment
- Categories: International, News
- Date: May 18, 2010 11:25 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Censorship, Crime, Law, Loli, Lolicon, Politics, USA
The US Supreme Court has ruled that a law which allows “sexually dangerous” prisoners to be jailed forever without trial does not violate the Constitution.
The case centres on Graydon Comstock, who was convicted of possessing child pornography and sentenced to three years imprisonment. Immediately prior to this sentence he served a separate sentence for engaging in lewd acts with a minor.
Six days prior to the end of his sentence, the government branded him a “sexually dangerous” paedophile who might reoffend, and denied him release, placing him into indefinite “civil commitment” in a federal prison.
He has since spent nearly three years in prison despite having been convicted of no further crime, and having served his sentence.
Release of such “committed” prisoners is possible only if they are deemed to be no longer dangerous – without a treatment program recognised as being capable of this, their imprisonment effectively becomes indefinite.
The law responsible for extending this practice to the federal level, the 2006 Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, was soon challenged by prisoners now being denied release indefinitely, eventually reaching the Supreme Court.
Supreme Court justices finally ruled 7 to 2 in favour of the law:
“It is necessary and proper for Congress to provide for the civil commitment of dangerous federal prisoners.”
Democrats are delighted by the victory – Obama even recently promoted the lady who argued for indefinite sentences on behalf of the federal government, Elena Kagan, to the Supreme Court herself.
She is on record as having argued that the government should be able to restrict any speech it considers “harmful,” irrespective of the First Amendment
A Democratic senator holds forth in support of the decision:
“The process to enact this law to protect our children from those who would do them harm was difficult. I am heartened to see an overwhelming majority of the Supreme Court uphold this important child protection law.”
Some states already operate similar laws, but this decision ensures the federal government can now freely override sentences throughout the land.
The solicitor general for Kansas, Stephen McAllister, a supporter of the law, suggests that allowing indefinite civil commitment for all kinds of criminals might now be possible:
“Constitutionally, it might be possible. I don’t have a constitutionally limiting line for what kinds of mental disorders might be permissible and what [might] not. If they lead to danger to others, potentially, they could be covered under such a law.”
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Lady Justice may be blind, but her scales let her know when enough gold has been put forth so she can reach a decision.
This isn't really news; the U.S.A. has had, far and away, the largest incarcerated population of any non-totalitarian nation in the world.
It is, of course, bullshit, but it's the type of bullshit that's been foisted on us for quite some time now with three strikes programs, mandatory sentences, etc, etc. The fact that the individuals in question are generally poor and unable to make even the most basic of attempts to fight the process is why you never hear about it on the news.
Fail: it`s very uncertain that USA is a non-totalitarian nation.
You stupid fuckface. You don't know what a totalitarian state is.
Actually, the USA surprisingly has a bigger incarcerated population than ANYONE, even totalitarian nations.
Yes, even countries with dictatorships imprison less people than the US. I'm not kidding.
whats the point in locking them up forever if they are never going to be freed.might as well just kill them so we can stop wasting our tax money keeping pieces of trash alive
oh god! PLEASE TELL ME MY EYES ARE LYING TO ME!
O cool so i get less time Murdering someone than looking up little child porn? Cool lets go kill people now sounds more logic.
Maybe the US government should change its rules and rethink about it?
and to think that this was a country where everyone could get treatment and help for issues such as this. i can already imagine the sheer amount of false claims on the horizon.
Wow 19 pages in mere hours.
Remember people, if you would fuck kiddies, or even THINK of fucking kiddies, with pictures or even just with drawings, you might wish to get something else to get off with if you live in the US land of the free.
Because it isn't necessarily the land of the free for everyone.
Or just move to an Islamic country.
You may have to convert to Islam then. They only allow Allah's Faithful to enjoy loli-marriages, not infidels.
Long live the american Constitution!
US one step closer to Dictatorship
Maybe I'm misinterpreting something here, but this seems quite distinctly Orwellian to me.
/bush accent: Those paedofilez are terrorists!
Overblown reactionary stuff like this is why I don't usually read the response threads on this site, and why I always take the generally-heavily-slanted news bites on this site with a grain of salt.
So people here are up in arms because of a ruling that allows truly dangerous sexual predators - i.e. the ones most likely to reoffend - to be kept from being a threat to society? Really? Did anyone even bother to look at the facts involved in the ruling, like how the "sexually dangerous" label applies to only 0.7% of all sex offenders in federal custody? That means your typical child pornographer convicted under interstate commerce provisions would have to do something truly egregious for this ruling, and the law it supports, to impact him. (The law, BTW, is aimed at those who have engaged in "sexually violent conduct," amongst other requirements.) The courts and prosecutors aren't going to waste time, effort, and tax dollars trying to commit long-term some Joe Blow who gets convicted of statutory rape for having sex with an underage girl or only gets caught with some child porn; they're going to go after the true monsters, the kinds of people *no one* would want on the street again.
Now, I haven't been able to find out any more details about Graydon Comstock's case, but for this narrowly-used law to be applied to him, there must be something more going on with him and his conviction that we don't know about. Maybe his "receiving child pornography" conviction is just the tip of the iceberg and he truly is a sicko. I find it hard to believe that the Attorney General (who certified Comstock as "sexually dangerous) would have stepped in on this matter without some compelling concern. It's just not worth the time and effort otherwise.
So stop overreacting and examine the issue with some sense, people, instead of just assuming it's the newest attempt to turn the country into a police state.
Yes, because we all know the government and those in power would never take a law intended for one thing and twist it to be used for a completely different thing. Because they have never taken a broadly worded law to sue in a completely unforeseen way in the past. Never. Because we are all safe in the hands of our mighty protectors.
Anonymous, the problem is that the definition of 'sexually dangerous offender' is too goddamned viewpoint and has NEVER been defined!
They could say that everyone on the sex offenders lists is a 'sexually dangerous offender', that every person who looks at lolicon is that, that anyone who even LOOKS at a child is that!
No, it's giving way too much power to the government, which the Founding Fathers specifically said that the government was NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE!
‘Democrats are delighted by the victory – Obama even recently promoted the lady who argued for indefinite sentences on behalf of the federal government, Elena Kagan, to the Supreme Court herself.’
And here I thought Barack Obama was just as bad as George Bush. I was wrong - he's a lot worse. How is that when the Democrats win the election we get a Republican on steroids for president? Well, at least we got ‘change’ all right.
American justice at its finest.
Looks like I'm moving back to austrailia, the lesser of the 2 evils >_>
Time to boycott America. Then again, China is a good tool to destroy America.
America, f**k no!
You're an idiot.
You're upset that you might be imprisoned indefinately if you get caught with child pornography or commit multiple rapes/sexual offenses?
Try that in China and you'll be EXECUTED.
Fucking brainless moron.
Actually, no, you wouldn't be. The fact is that China is fine with those things as long as you are not deemed 'dangerous to society' because you are a capitalist or something similar.
I WISH that the pedophiles would boycott America. Then again, we can't always get what we with for.
Artefact, quote a source for your material in this article. I would especially like to see a reputable source explicitly state that Obama backed this decision being a constitutional law professor.
LOL... sorry, but I've never heard such a one sided representation of this issue. Read into it people, there's a lot more to this problem then is talked about here.
O.. and make sure those evil democrats(LOL) don't get to you along the way.
Since USA is a country with a two-party political system, both Republicans and Democrats want to enslave all of the American people.
Any USA-ian should leave this country at all cost.
I WILL NEVER SEE OR WATCH JAILBAITS AGAIN. hentai is jailbait. lolicon is jailbait.
Not my hentai. I lean towards big, well endowed, wide hipped milfs! See Tetrotodoxin, Nagi Project, Reoparudo, Jeanne DAck etc.
I am aware one day this can be considered as criminal too, if this hysteria about different sexual leanings doesn`t end.
It strikes me that one can not see the difference between child molestation and drawn pictures.
gg USA.
GUY WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF AMERICA BEFORE THE SYSTEM TAKES OVER. This is not a joke people. slowly USA is becoming a land of control and mental slavery.
They are just sacrificing the few for the votes of many. It operates on the same principle of gaybashing. Doesn't do anyone much good but sacrifices few votes to do the 'in' thing of that time.
strange i heard that it was for detainment AFTER the origanel trial. This is wierd.
"She is on record as having argued that the government should be able to restrict any speech it considers “harmful,” irrespective of the First Amendment"
The country's in no danger at all... after all who needs human rights.
At least the USSR used nuthouses to get rid of dissidents, no matter whether they're indeed lunatic (Novodvorskaya) or not (Brodsky). I fail to see what the US as a state gains by doing this.
I see US is trying to imitate China.
Anyone who still thinks the good ol' USA isn't in decline had better think again.This is a very slippery slope that WILL lead to innocent people having (what's left of), their constitutuinal rights violated.
The US is going to more ressemble a Socialist country after the Obama addministration is said and done with it.Why is it they are so fast to limit/take away rights of legal US citizens, but let illegals almost literally get away with everything they do illegally, including existing here illegally.
You are now being charged for thinking of doing bad things.
America fail yet again.
I live in america.
I view and own loli material.
I find actual children repulsive little bastard that I can't stand to be around and would never do anything to them and I only like drawn loli.
Gov. would never believe me and would destroy my life over drawings of fake girls that is art.
I rot in jail for an undetermined amount of time, and if I get out I am still considered a "sex offender".
Gov. tramples all over our basic rights yet again, boasts about it, and gets away with it worry free.
My hope and what little respect I have for my gov. dies.
Solution: I need to get the fuck out of this shit hole fast.
And go where? Loli material is banned everywhere else in the world except Japan.
You're a fucking moron.
Actually, no, it isn't. It is LEGAL in the United States under federal and state law, unless you are talking about the obscenity laws, which are unconstitutional in and of themselves.
Sweden hasn't banned loli material, neither has Russia, China, etc.
You are dramatically overstating the 'bannedness' of it, and frankly those laws are in violation of human rights in the first place (the right to view what you wish as long as it is not physically harming a REAL LIVING PERSON).
Wow you must be one hell of a pedophile if your only reason to get the hell out is because you're afraid of being caught with your child pornography.
Fucking sicko.
Man, this is pretty out of hand for the US. I know that the law sees that loli/shouta can promote pedophilia, but this is too far. Then again, look at it from their perspective, they just want the children to be safe from pedophiles; would you want your child to be molested or raped by some crook? They're not taking any chances to let that happen, but I do think it is bad to throw one in jail just because of a difference in opinion or sexual preference.
I have not read any of other comments yet, but i guess there is many raging against Democrats, left and "liberals" about this issue. Do they really think conservative religious right or Republican Party would be any milder in this kind of cases? Of course i myself question the sanity of these laws and even constitution. Who were in power when Adam Walsh Child protection and Safety Act was introduced in 2006?
Answer that and continue your ranting, if you still feel like it.
This is a big mistake by Obama & Co.
Very bad precedent. It starts with real child pornography possession, then goes to fictional, then goes to "you looked at me funny".
Hey this is cool we can make all terrorist go to jail permanently since we can brand them as sexually dangerous since if we trial them for terrorism it would take too much time and money since no trial is needed if we brand them under it
US nuke yourself, at least the congress.
I wouldn't want to step into the USA. USA treat legally-entered foreigners like criminals.
America is the village drunk of the world who used to be great now a wasted one.
Why do I read this blog? It's always full of the same depressing bullshit.
Life sucks.