Eager MMORPG maniacs awaiting Final Fantasy XIV are aghast at early gameplay footage showing battles as exciting as Final Fantasy XIII is non-linear.


Square Enix were so embarrassed by the videos that they forced YouTube to take them down (the videos had been available for several weeks prior to becoming famous, and strangely they left other less controversial gameplay videos alone); by way of replacement, here are two alternative versions, which should be just as exciting:

Player 1

Player 2

The old, defunct videos stand as stark testament to Square’s unsubtle approach to PR:

A party of two dispatch a fearsome bird in an thrillingly epic battle:

Murderous bats fall beneath a withering hail of arrows:

A wicked jellyfish is vanquished by an axe-wielding munchkin using its powers of telekinesis:

Optimists remark that at least the game might free a large number of players from their addiction.

This may be a beta, but with release due in 2010, Square Enix will have its work cut out in reforming this in any significant fashion.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    10:33 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And how is this any worse than low level in WoW anyway?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:21 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not an FF fan(looking toward TERA) but just because it isn't as buttons smashing as much as wow doesn't mean it's worse.It's all about the content and I would prefer a more tactical approach to mindless button smashing and occasional get outta the funny stuffs,harder dps/healing,etc....

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:07 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Videos don't exist anymore.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:08 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And it's good that they don't, either. The NDA should be enforced to control jumping to conclusions like this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:00 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And all the videos are gone... :/ I'll assume it was boring.

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    Comment by SpideyPHL
    10:10 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This does remind me a bit of ffxi, but considering that all MMOs are slow paced at lower levels (combined with the lag I've seen mentioned in the videos' comments), I'm not sure this is a fair representation. After all, I recall footage from the last expo this was shown at that moved considerably faster. Also, this is still in beta and SE has been more open to player input than they were in the past, so there's a good chance it'll be faster paced in the actual game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:06 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    omg final fantasy is sinking,
    ever so slowly...

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:33 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow this looks bad...UI is ugly and doesn't look very streamlined. combat is about as fun as watching the grass grow.

    I hope alot changes for retail or this will be another shitty MMO.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:34 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    what the hell is this bullshit, for the love of the classics, send square-enix a copy of dragon age origins, fallout 3 and mass effect!! ASAP!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:43 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I knew mmorpgs were crap, but wow.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:22 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pretentious faggots bitching about a game that isn't even out yet. Why am I not surprised?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:59 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bitching about people bitching is much less annoying. It only starts getting annoying when someone bitches about someone bitching about someone bitching, i.e. my post.


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    Comment by Egobrane
    12:27 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now I'm bitching about how you're not actually bitching about him bitching about bitching.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:48 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The speed reminds me of facebook apps. FinalFantasy...ville

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    Comment by Lilith
    13:36 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Video got taken down :(

    I was pretty curious

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:10 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    When people have to resort to censorship, you just know it's because they don't stand a chance at dealing with the criticism honestly.

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    Comment by Egobrane
    14:43 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or because there's an NDA they don't want people leaking content out of.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:41 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, with the vids down, I cannot really do a 'good' quote on this game. But the fact is that the RPG genre (online or offline/single-player) has been SLOWLY DYING!

    Either there is too damned much 'GRIND, GRIND, GRIND!' for MMO's, or there is too much of that for single-players.

    They really need to come up with a way that the game is CHALLENGING yet there are no more 'experience levels' as they stand today.

    Heck, I went back to play FF1 recently.... guess what I did to stop the grind? Yep, CHEAT CODED it! I just couldn't stand the thought of sitting there for HOURS grinding away at gaining experience.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:23 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Grinding is definitely the thing I hate most in games. I'm okay with some randomness and having to spend some time to achieve something, but grinding for a drop that has less than 1% chance of dropping (EarthBound, I'm looking at you! Damn you, Sword of Kings!), that sort of thing is just annoying. Anything that is overly repetitive quickly becomes a hassle. Farming in general is a shitty mechanic (no offense to Harvest Moon).

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:12 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unfortunately boring, unimaginative grind fests are the only thing Enix has ever known how to make. And the only way they know of to extend gameplay is to require more and more tedious grinding.

    Squaresoft stopped making games where grinding was required with FF III, at least. Too bad that movie put them out of business...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:26 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ugh.... okay, Anonymous one back here... now that the videos are back up and I can see the battles? BORING is the bottom line here!

    I have to agree with people who are saying that these battles are boring.... maybe it's time to go in a "STAR OCEAN" kind of direction, Square-Enix!

    Meaning, active participation battles with little 'menuing'.

    Come to think of it, Star Ocean was one of the games that I absolutely LOVED playing because I was actually participating in the battles.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:33 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you guys are over reacting to alpha footage. lol I know everything there is to know about this game because I'm on the alpha. there is like 1800 testers on the NA alpha test and they have us all crammed in to what amounts to 10% of the total game area of the game. right now we just finish the 6th test. we are stress testing the servers. this game is far from ready. it took 3 test before the game was even playable. and it took that many just to weed the people out that can't even run this game at all. there are a mass out dumb asses trying to play this game on laptops that don't even get close to the minimum requirements to run this game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:07 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wait. This is alpha. Of course it's going to be slow - you always start at the extremes, and make your way to a balancing point.

    Still not a fan of the WoW formula.

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    Comment by thanto_
    12:31 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's like Dragon Age.


    Comment by Anonymous
    13:00 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because Artefact is biased when it comes to Final Fantasy/Square-Enix related games.
    It's a shame too.
    Jumping to conclusions when the game itself is still in Alpha?
    Artefact, I am disappointed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:13 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    his penis is biased towards your mother.

    It's like a compass, but it always points south.

    Comment by Anonymous
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    Comment by Dirty_Dingus008
    12:33 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, well~ looks to seem them cock sucking shit eating mother ass & eye socket fucking reapers took down the "epic" video of characters flinching to 9999 damage dealings moments no doubt.

    Japanese RPG is old.. so. fucking... Old. With prettier pictures. I tried out FF13 and could not pass the first "boss" without yawning. attack - attack - redundant - redundant - redundant - oops* better heal... attack- whoops, the "boss" got tired of being pinched and died of boredom~ its body fall down the dark below.. I swear I heard it giggle with glee in its plunge. I quit with the character emoting without end.

    14 will be a prettier version of 11.

    And that is it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:05 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Too blind to notice the server lag, or what? Look how long it takes to go from readying to fired.

    A L P H A

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:41 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The battle system is on the contrary very intuitive, and the videos the almighty unbiased Artefact picked out do not demonstrate it well at all. In fact, I think he purposely picked out the videos where the characters are not really fighting but testing out the dynamics -just to make the article juicy and controversial. WHICH YOU DO A LOT ARTEFACT.

    The load time between attacks is shown on the action gauge. The action gauge is the bar the empties and refills on the upper right hand side, right below the action icon you chose. If you want to attack, it takes as long as it does for the bar to refill. There is also a secondary gauge that is used for the off hand.

    I'm looking at continuous lance attacks right now on an alpha video and it takes 4 seconds for the bar to refill.

    This is also not taking into account stacking and the battle regimen system which will add an entirely new level of gameplay.

    The battle system is not slow, the attack delays are just as long as they were in FFXI if not faster. And the action based system makes battle flow much more hands on and involved.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:39 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you guys are stupid, keep in mind that this is BETA. Patches/updates will go accordingly to how players like. geez it's going to be an awesome game shoot FFXI was awesome enough, this is going to rock! make your own MMRPG if you're so good!

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    Comment by Egobrane
    07:42 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, it's an alpha, this isn't even beta.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:42 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's either this or diablo-style button mash mmorpgs at this point. It's the limitations of our time, and you can't expect developers to suddenly both make amazingly complex systems requiring 1mb+ connections while still catering to those with what we would call "low-end" computers.

    I'd like to see anyone on this board to come up with an idea for an mmorpg that doesn't revolve around one of those styles. For an mmorpg, I'm perfectly content with this style, even if it is somewhat slowed, but hopefully be more strategic based.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:52 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    dont say the game sucks unitl u play it

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    Comment by Egobrane
    07:44 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm also interested where you got that quote from. Some random japanese complainer on 2ch I'm assuming? Judging a broken game based on the laggy alpha servers wouldn't surprise me.

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    Comment by Egobrane
    07:55 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And since my previous comment didn't get posted, who are you referring to as eager MMO maniacs? The halo 3 kids commented on the youtube video? The game is a laggy mess right now, look at his latency in the bottom left. It's constantly turning yellow. There is supposed to be a 3-5 second delay between attacks on archer, one of the slower classes. Because of the lag, there's usually about 8-10 seconds. This is why NDAs are made, so broken gameplay doesn't get leaked and biased newsposters jump to conclusions.

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    Comment by Niwa
    07:43 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crap what a downer
    and I didn't even look at the video o__o

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:17 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a pile of shit.
    Animations are pure shit, might as well be turn based... the environments look like shit, but that's FF for you... Amazing cut-scenes, good story, hi-res character models, low-res empty environments, boring shitty gameplay.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:13 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everything is moving so fast! Duhhhh
    Slow it down, duhhh, my brain cannot compre-durrr-hend...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:13 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Most of the thread is just bashing from non FFXI, even non MMO players. There's really no point arguing with them.

    Comment by Anonymous
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    Comment by chad001
    07:22 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)



    So bad that it's laughable...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:27 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This guy is like a level 5 ranger. ~_~ of course he'll be fighting monstrous bats outside of town.. In any MMO you gotta start with the basics--which is boring, and after you learn you gain more abilities, level up, blah blah blah gear... blah and then do fun shit. Even with non mmo games you still have to go through a tutorial level, ya know? Levels 1~10ish in MMOs are like tutorial levels.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:59 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    People must think if there's no effect on your screen every second as you smash your buttons randomly, it's too slow.

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    Comment by ventlus
    08:54 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yea thats a bit slow

    im still gonna play it tho >.>

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:46 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its leaked footage, so I'm hoping the actual combat in its final form will be better... but yeah - what we're seeing right now is pretty boring and exactly where FFXI combat is today(sans annoying chiming noise).

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:10 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Same piece of shit, a rehash of final fantasy 11.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:51 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just like FFII was a rehash of FFI, and FFIII of FFII. You don't get it, do you? They know what they're doing, reusing FFXI elements is not them being lazy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:26 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You have no idea what you're talking about. Every one of the early FF games was built completely new from the ground up. They were not rehashes by any stretch of the imagination.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:17 14/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So changing the names of the galka and mithra make them compleatly new classes? Dont be such a fanboy and face the facts, its the same fucking ff11!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:28 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    By the time you finish your attack, your balls drop in real life.

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