“75% of Ero-Gamers are Pirates”

iPhone game devs esteminate piracy rate to be at 90%.

So, your average ero-gamer is less piratish than casual gamer.

Oh, and there is the real kicker - 90% iphone apps users are pirates, but only 10% of iphones are jailbroken. And yes, you need jailbroken iphone to run pirated content:D

This tells us two things:
1. Even very effective and draconian DRM won't save your system from having 90% piracy rate. DRM really doesn't work, period.

2. Mere 10% users generate all your piracy. Loses from piracy are not 9 times your legitimate sale count, but 1/10 of your legitimate sales.

Losses from piracy are overestimated by factor of 90!!! Divide whatever developers are claiming by 90, and you will get reasonably accurate number.

I've bought all my games since 1982. Lately I only play live MMOs and have bought all that software as well. The Playstation 2 games I bought recently were all rehashed old stuff, just cant play that thing no more. The computer games (single player) I've bought really stink and no longer follow a path of games I like. Just don't have time any more for the garbage.

I myself as an ero-gamer as well cant deny the fact I depend on pirates... since knowingly all to well getting eroges shipped to my country is illegal <_< just so when you know how bothersome red tapes are

seriously, if eroge is a piece of crap, why do they still continue to make this software? It's because there is still people out there wanted to play. And if you don't really want to play, fine then. But still there are people who play and follow the story like otakus and fan. Whether the characters are all made of 'cardboards' and 'voices', it's still a product of an artist.

It's not a bug in the game, but a bug in your moral code.

End of story.

If they started translating games maybe they people would actually buy them.

If you want to get rid of piracy, then release your game as Donationware, without the dreadful DRM.

Pirates can't pirate Donationware or Freeware, & software crackers have no reason to crack games without DRM, thus 0% of piracy! If your game worth something, gamers will donate money to you as they deem worthy.

Other alternative would be include used pantsu from highschool girl with your overpriced eroge game, which pirates can't download from Internet!

I would argue that 75% of ero-gamers are pirates because 90% of ero-games are not sold outside Japan. And don't give me any BS about J-List... That is a very small share of the ero-games that are available. I would gladly pay for an English copy of Artificial Girl 3, but the developer won't make it... hell I cannot even buy the Japanese version, because they don't sell it outside Japan. SO I pirate every ero-game that looks interesting to me (that is not sold on J-list) that I can find an English patch for.
ALSO, God's honest truth, the moment that any game that I am currently pirating comes on sale in English at a store or e-store that will sell to me here in the USofA, I will gladly empty my wallet.

This is a sad situation but developers that make games only in japanese had it comming.
Many people would legally buy games if they were in english.

this is mostly due to not many u.s. releases of these games. I mean the only store that even sells anime or cosplay in my towns is 20 miles away and they DONT sell ero.....wtf am I surposed to do?

*Is too busy gawking at Konata*

While we mateys may enjoy the booty

Our days be numbered as less people make games.

Truthfully though, while we pirates are cheap, many of us wouldn't buy it anyway if we could not pirate them like the cheap fags we are.

And if getting it from being cheap fags is easier then the right way, this happens.

Stop trying to justify being pirates.
You're either:
1: Too Poor
2: Too Cheap
3: You want to play it but either you:
- Think it is too expensive hence: Too Poor
- Don't think you should pay because:
* You can't read the original language OR
* Too lazy to/can't get it from store/online/import:
* Hence not paying for because:
- You get it for free so...
Hence : Too Cheap

It might truly not be worth the money, but if you don't buy it !AND THEN! pirate because of that reason, you're too cheap :P

Technically if we are all law-abiding, if we can't get the games legally ourselves you would give up. But it's a guilty pleasure as we all know heh.

How about some English eroge for the 360/PS3, now? I'd like to think they could lift the censorship requirements if they work out deals together with the eroge industry.

ROFL at the Konata pic.
Really this is hard to judge as their target audience tends to pirate to try and then goes and buys the real thing so they can leave it on a shelf unopened.

Many are over priced they'd have a lot less piracy if the games were not $80.

The console DRM usually is less invasive then PC DRM because consoles are not general computing devices ie they don't have cd burners etc so not shit like securom or that festering pile of dog flop Assassin's creed 2 has.
The article also is inaccurate since piracy is easy on consoles too there's an entire industry around mod chips.
Would microshaft had to ban people on XBL if there wasn't?
I consider everything but the Konata pic which made me lol a waste of band width.

of course.. it is humiliating to pay to have sex.

yarrrrgh! me harties! ima pirate!

Most ero-games are such complete garbage I'm surprised anyone would pay for them.

"dont' state the obvious" much?

Yeah damn right I pirate. Maybe if we pirate enough, all these eroge bullshit will be gone!

Yes, I do 'pirate' ero-games.... but only because there are no reasonable ways to get these things even in the United States where I live, without paying 100+ dollars for a game that would be 20 in Japan!

Now, DLSite games? THOSE I buy on a regular basis, because I can download them and play them, 99 times out of 100, with no problems on my computers.

Shit, who would pay $80 for porn? You can get 2 normal prostitutes or 1 high class with that. Paying $80 to just jack off repeatly in front of the computer screen is just unreasonable.

thanks god, i'm not alone

Well duh, extreme sexual deviants aren't likely to have very high moral standards.

On a side note, 99% of eroges are boring, lifeless pieces of shit not worth the asking price and many of their publishers do not offer game demos, which is also the reason for PC game piracy, and Steam's popularity, skyrocketing.

insomnia.ac/commentary/pc_game_piracy/

And 98% of those games contains pedophilia.

hmm.. looks like unicef will just have to fund the eroge industry to keep children on the streets safe. ^^; (j/k)

Question: How many of those legitimate buyers are the otaku who buy 10+ copies of the same game?

Given that most Ero-games are are anywhere from $80 to a $100 and more while rarely offering decent gameplay, hard not to blame people.

Japan doesn't want my dirty gaijin money, so I'm not buying any eroge that isn't by Propeller or Nitroplus.(Well, maybe Muv-Luv Alternative would be the exception.)

I buy eroge that I really want (when i'm in Japan). There's no justification for paying for 90% of the titles that are released in the first place. The eroge markets never take risks to make something new that I think would be worth paying for.

In a given year, there's maybe 1 or 2 titles that I think are worth the price they charge while the rest of them are an afterthought.

Anything written by Takahiro (Maji de watashi ni Koi shinasai, Tsuyokiss, Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga ore de) is worth it in my opinion for a number of reasons I won't get into. The ones who get specific fan followings becuase they have a proven track record won't bitch about piracy too much. I mean naturally it's there but they'll make enough money due to the quality of their titles.

The eroge production costs are very small relative to a western PC game title or a console title. Anyone can make one. The Doujin industry is revolutionizing eroge. Unfortunately it also means anyone with a computer, sketchpad and photo shop can make an eroge and then bitch about piracy.

admit it, lol.
you guys won't buy them even the price is like, 20$. and every pirate users says like, what you guys are syaing.

"the game expensive" "the game is crap".

lol, just be honest and say "i'm too stingy to buy them"

I'll just leave this here.
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Another-view-of-game-piracy

As a side note, in some countries eroges are damn hard to buy legitimely. E.g. either you need to order from abroad -- being unsure if the package will make it through -- or visit abroad. In any case overall cost may rise up to 500%, which is god damn much.

And here's another more generalized point: legit PC games in some countries are messed up with crappy translations (sometimes to the point of unplayability). To get a decent (english) version, you need to... right. Either get a pirate copy, or order it from abroad -- being unsure if the package will make it through.

"An industry with three quarters of the users being illegal is pretty surprising."

Not in America...here we have the Gardening Industry, the Fast Food Industry, the Voting Democrat Industry, the Construction industry, the Moving Industry, the Plumbing Industry, the Laundry Industry, thee Being SMELLY Industry..,

Those are all like three quarters Illegal, if not more.

it's make me remember KID :< , they created ever 17 even for international speaker and they went bankrupt

Eroge are way too easy money anyways.

It evades me how people can be satisfied with a bunch of grimacing cardboard cutouts in front of disconnected theater backdrops, with only a handful of relevantly (but shamelessly partially) illustrated events. They're ripping us off, dammit!

This is what they get for only having perverts and otakus as their main selling target.

internet is full of pirates.
It's no surprise about that piece of news.
No wonder some company like Minori is protesting and detesting outsider.
sales drop less food on their table.

I wanted to buy Kirakira from Mangagamer when they offered it for half price, but wasn't sure about my debit card, because I still had a junior one. I got my new one, which is a MasterCard, so if any similar sale happens, I might just jump in it.

*edit*

and yeah, if they charged less for all eroges/VNs, maybe more people would be able/willing to afford them.
(not pointing at MangaGamer, but universally)