For some Japanese women at least, not only is having a boyfriend fall for a 2D character considered cheating, it is regarded as being worse than having an affair with a real woman or going with a prostitute.

Several Japanese ladies in their thirties were interviewed about their thoughts on the matter:

“If my boyfriend fell for a 2D girl it would be absolutely gross.”

“If he went with 2D I’d really feel there’s a problem with me, as a real woman.”

“I’d be totally shocked. I think I’d think the problem was with me and I was lacking something. It’s just like a man with a girlfriend pursuing a fake romance with a hostess or going with a prostitute, isn’t it?”

“If he is going to fall for someone else, at least make it an idol. You just can’t compete against a 2D character.”

Possibly deep seated insecurities about competing with 2D girls are one of the reasons Japanese women despise otaku so completely.

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    Comment by Ribbons
    00:10 06/05/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    As a woman, I'd rather love my partner with all the flaws included than a fictitious being that I'll never get to speak to. A deeper, more grounded understanding of love comes from being able to accept a person as they are - all the hair, stomach aches and sickness included - and still being in love with them after all of that. Granted that doesn't mean I don't like 2D myself, but I can't see myself replacing my love interests with something so perfect that I can't reach out and feel a heartbeat under their skin.

    Some of the comments in here frighten me, though. Not because I see myself as inadequate, but because I wonder how they came to the conclusions that they did about women being selfish, horrible creatures while they themselves are humans that can do no wrong. I'd like someone to explain that, please.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:35 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    They think that they are so sensitive and can be so understanding, as well as understand women a lot, while their sensitivity would go away the minute a girl shows flaws that aren't the perfect flaws they expected in a girl.

    Both sides can be selfish, and people need to get over it and grow up. Coz the good things in life is rare, a good partner is rare, and everyone should look at themselves before blaming the other sex.

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    Comment by Ribbons
    13:14 06/05/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    What I'm seeing mostly - especially with the men posting here - is that they expect a perfect relationship to simply blossom with no effort on their behalf whatsoever. They list off all the reason why 2D is better than 3D, and all their reasons lie in their selfish desire to do nothing to nurture their relationship. They expect these fictitious women to wash them with compliments, to act cute, to do NOTHING but create a shallow romance that the men rarely participate in at all but to be the stand-in boyfriend. These men's standards are so high, and their tolerance for failure so low, that it makes them impossible to hold a standing relationship with at all, let alone a romantic one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:48 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I'm a guy and I agree with you . A lot of guys on here seem to think they are perfect and gods gift to women . They think everything is the womens fault cause surely a guy can't make any mistakes . How they got such a grand view of themselves when they most likely struck out repeatedly with girls is beyond me . Everyone has flaws men and women . The ignorance here is amazing .

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:27 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never have I once thought of myself as being perfect or an 'ideal' partner. As a matter of fact, one of the main reasons I have never pursued a relationship is because I have a lot of mental issues, and am nervous around people in general.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:24 08/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I think the point is that 2D lovers here have emotional and mental issues, but they're just too stubborn to admit it and fix it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:29 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Failure to relate to people... that is the 'problem'. While not a problem when you are jacking off in your room over 2D girls, it is a problem when you have to deal with a real person, romantically or otherwise. Some people I know here are like that, they just can't handle people, so they run away from them.
    I have a wife and a little girl. We are soooo happy sometimes, and other times I want to run away. That is what life is about. 2D can't give you happiness, YOU give yourself happiness that YOU create in your own mind. Do as you wish, but in my life, I like the script that my family writes for me each day much more than the script I would write myself.
    That said, people are hard to deal with, and if 2D is your choice, you are free to make it. Just don't expect it to do anything you can't already do yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    10:26 18/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Show me again who didn't admit to it, and tell me again how you'd fix it, Sherlock?

    2D do not give anyone crap for that. That's fact.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:25 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You and a lot of people has this problem. But the problem is, even thought both sides of the sexes has their own difficulties and flaws, both sides should learn how to get rid of unreal expectations or blaming the other, while having more compassion for each other.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:47 08/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What an otaku expects from 2D is nothing near unreal.

    It is probably ureal to translate those expectations to 3D, no dispute to that. Your point?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:43 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There are bad people from both sexes. Women can be materialistic, just like men can be heartless horn dogs. Nice partners, just like everything in this world, are rare. But have you looked at yourself in the mirror first, before criticizing others of whatever sex?

    Hard to find a good partner? Get up and grow over it. Great relationships takes great efforts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:49 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thank you.
    Thank you.
    Thank you.
    I wish I could shake your hand. And I wish we could have more articles that make people realize this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:55 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly, it's not gonna happen. Most articles here pander to the sad otakus who'd rather fa to their "2D waifus" rather than take responsibility and face real life.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:29 08/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I do look in the mirror and I will indeed criticize myself a lot, and refrain from criticizing most people. Still, the fact holds that people that are not me lack some capacities too.

    And more to the point, the fact holds that while I don't deserve to get much from 3D, 2D will be nice and giving to me anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:57 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Why do topics like these seem to generate misogyny?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:11 11/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because the point of the article is many male otakus feel that women cannot compete with their 2D fantasies, and this is explained by the fact their fantasies are shaped exactly as they'd wish by body and by soul. This is an feat 3D women cannot possibly reach.

    Now many would read the very numerous aspects in which women may lack in perfection, as 'flaws.' Remember, men's flaws, and otakus' flaws, are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

    So in the end it feels like we discuss women's flaws and nothing else.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:51 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm a fattie, but my wife has great tits, and freckles on her back that I love... 2D couldn't give me the originality that she does. She is real. Every time I want to see either, I have to give her some love in return. Fair enough.
    I guess that is just too hard for some people.
    Keep fapping, don't make kids if you can't take care of people.

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    Comment by Usagi-sempai
    00:01 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow speaking as a girl who's never experienced romantic love yet I dunno how that feels, I can only imagine. I don't know what be worse losing a boyfriend to a 3d girl or a 2d one... Well when I think about it I think 3d cheating is worse. With 2d you already know you can't win, the characters are written to be perfect, while a 3d girl would probably make me ask myself "What does this bitch have that I don't?!" But still, if my boyfriend fell in love with a 2d girl over me, that would be a devastating blow to my already dwindling self-confidence. Especially if I tried my hardest to make him happy, which I would. I'm a hopeless, lonely romantic. I'd just hope he didn't fall in love with a character I liked, because it'd be the equivalent of him sleeping with my friend... But if this really happened I'd probably sink it a deep depression singing "Just Be Friends" to myself, sobbing alone in my room. Then when I've cried myself out I'd probably look at some yaoi and cheesy shoujo while playing "RIP=RELEASE" to cheer myself up. Then I probably think about the 2d guys that are so much better then the scum bag who left me and how they'd never leave me like he did. Further lowering my already not ideal vision of men. Which is ironic on so many levels. But when (if) I ever get a 3d boyfriend that's why I'll try to avoid comparison to 2d guys because we all know we can't compare to 2d. I just want a kind guy who's decent looking and loves me for me, that's all I ask for. Yet reality isn't as kind and ideal as the 2d world is...

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    Comment by Imyou
    09:29 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think if that happened, it'd probably be that they ALSO crushed on a 2D character, and you'd also have to ask yourself what you have that they don't - that's easy - being. You exist. It's not automatically an indicator that they prefer 2D to you.

    But, you already know this culture, so it sounds like you have a pretty levelheaded take on it generally.

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    Comment by Usagi-sempai
    11:07 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh yea, I have no problem with guys liking 2d girls during a relationship. I'd probably have and maintain my crushes on 2d guys. I'd just be devastated if he wanted to break up over a 2d girl. I don't think all guys will automatically choose 2d over me. But I'd probably wanna know who they're like, see if I can pick up a few of the qualities of the 2d girls he likes. Chances are I'd probably already have a few of them, since he choose to go out with me. I'll try to be a lil more positive, since a lot of the time I just feel like there's no one out there for me. But I'm sure if I try I'll eventually find someone ;D

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:28 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Quote"I just want a kind guy who's decent looking and loves me for me,..."

    This is the problem, the two are so very rarely found in the same package. So he has to be decent looking? Already he has a ladder to climb. Good job, stupid girl.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:41 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've noticed one thing with all these "2D > 3D" kids. Their main reason is always women are money-grubbing bitches.

    Is that no. 1 in the brainwashing program done by Sankaku Complex to its members?

    Comment by Anonymous

    Nope, just the truth about Women/Men. True love is hard to find these days for many so its better to go for what you want - 2D or 3D. You choose.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:04 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    How many women can honestly claim they are better than nene-san anyway?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:42 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "If he is going to fall for someone else, at least make it an idol. You just can't compete against a 2D character."

    What makes them think they can compete w/ an idol, aside from the fact that they're 3D?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:07 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i rather take the risk of being cheated than just fap to 2d moe characters :P
    and anyway, why don't fap to 2d and have sex with 3d

    poor women who have boyfriends who "cheat" them with 2d (in my opinion it's no cheating and i guess my girlfriend sees it the same way, i mean, i wouldn't feel betrayed if i know she would fap to porn, i rather would join her, muahah)

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only reason why japan's population never increase sharply, because they rather fuck 2d girls than the real ones.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:39 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Apparent hatred of otakus by 3D women...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:58 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    >“If he is going to fall for someone else, at least make it an idol. You just can’t compete against a 2D character.”

    so they know it. THEY KNOW.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:50 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's perfectly okay for them to schlick to ideal bishies in fujoshi comics however.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:48 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's their problem? First they reject me because of my micro-penis, now they're saying that me giving up and going 2d is bad?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:24 18/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    My thought too. Then again, it's, as usual, not about logic and reason.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:19 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh how I pity Japanese men....kawaisou!

    Thankfully, Japan's racism keeps the vast majority of these women in Japan and away from the rest of us.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 06/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    a friend of mine studied in japan and he said that the japanese men told him, the only thing whats worth less than a "gaijin" are women... aaand he was an european so nearly every women on his campus tried to date him, haha^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:37 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh look another article solely posted to make all the sad virgins comment about how much they hate 3D women despite not knowing any, and speaking as though they know every woman who has ever existed ever. And speak about 'all japanese women..(insert past sankaku article of similar nature)' despite having never been to Japan once or talked to a japanese girl.

    I just feel bad for you guys that honestly believe everything that is posted on this site.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:11 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If he falls for 2D he must not know that 3D can bring real sex not just the idea of it.
    Maybe he weren't such a loser he wouldn't need 2D.
    Ya really must fail at life to need company from a 2D character.
    So unless 3D girls can turn into moe anime characters, this will forever go on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:23 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    you are talking to a brick wall.
    he needs 2D.
    he cant do the real thing.
    i love fantasy. sometimes i fapp to it. but my family is where i get my "life juice". i just like the time off from a nagging wife, with some impossible nymph who caters to my every wis...

    shit, have to wash the dishes. its my turn tonight. she would be pissed if she woke up and had to wash dishes... sorry, real life intrudes...
    leave him to fapp and type shit about his life choice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:30 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Silly Asian girls :)

    I would much rather my boyfriend fall for a pretty 2D girl than some porn star or something, in fact, I'm more guilty of that at times then any of them men i end up dating.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:48 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Silly weaboo girl :)

    You worry like this because you are certainly a wretch. Fat/ugly/both. If your boyfriend had any bit of self esteem he'd find a hot chick and you'd be left without whatever poor excuse for sex weaboos have. (Pro tip, its hard to have good sex while living with your parents)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:40 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pro tip, we all see your lame ass being towed by your over-inflated ego. You can't see the silly weaboo girl, yet you presume that she is worse than your 2D 'partner'.
    You're disrespecting others in a way that makes me think that this is the only way you can deal with real people.

    Get back to jacking it, manuke.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:21 05/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wasn't there an article a few weeks ago that a similiar theme only with the difference that woman thought it would be better if they were betrayed with 2D girls as the men couldn't actually betray them.

    Comment by cckawaiilove
    18:25 11/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i can understand why some guys would fall in love with a 2d character rather than a real woman but at the same time it scares me. I'm only 25 and i fear my boyfriend of 6 years is starting to like 2d girls more and more each day. Yes i can understand that a lot of guys feel hurt by real women and can take comfort and companionship in 2d characters but trying to compete with that is heartbreaking. I do everything for him. I cook and clean for him but also try to be the perfect girlfriend to him by taking up his interest, i don't ask for things, play video games with him, always having sex and giving him blow jobs when he wants to. i don't even say a thing about his porn. But still my heart sinks whenever he would rather masturbate to hentai than have sex with me. Yes i gained a little weight cause we had a baby together and i work my ass of everyday to stay in shape but still, how can i compete with 2d. so yeah, to me having my boyfriend fall in love with a 2d girl would be worse than a real person because after working so hard on this relationship and pouring all my self into it at the end of the day i will be no where near as perfect as a 2d character and will constantly feel like i'm not enough. that's why i even joined this site, to try to figure out why he's so into them and how to be more like an anime girl to try to keep there. bite my head off now

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:50 18/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    > bite my head off now

    Sure. I call that fake.

    Now in the unlikely event this story is based on truth, I can infer two possible explanations:

    - It is probable that all you do for him is some kind of compensation for giving him crap on various occasions. I had a girlfriend like that: would do wonders for me because she realized she was often just plain mean and hurtful to me. I tried to handle it, because, well, she always did make up for it. Bottomline, I didn't really want all these make-up niceties, what I wanted is for her to stop giving me crap.

    - The guy might just simply be mentally incapable of appreciating 3D love. Though formulated differently it is a common symptom of depression, for instance: life too stressful, everything too complex, cannot cope with the complexities of real persons and the responsibilities we have to them. Good news: depression can be very effectively treated by specialists.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:03 18/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bullshit. I've seen a fair share, taken half a dozen different prescriptions (and I don't mean generic off-names either). None of it did shit. Some people are just immune to certain drugs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:14 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well statistically the response to treatment of depression is promising. Now there are always subjects on which it won't be effective.

    I know what it's like. Though it is not depression I have my lot of issues, and after the 5th specialist and being so tired of uselessly trying so hard to behave myself I nearly killed myself, I just gave up any treatment and went for the best I could get while keeping my issues as is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:26 02/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cosplay as his favorite hentai character.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:26 08/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I lol at the replies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:01 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    My girlfriend doesn't care as long as it's 2D.
    I think she can't stop laughing when she tries to imagine that I like some 2D girl more than some idol.
    If it was a real woman she would kill me though :p

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:37 14/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i've had a huge crush on a 2D guy before. i actually prefer when my bf looks at 2D than 3D

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:13 21/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hmm. . .there's only one thing i can say. . .please. . .don't mix up 2D with 3D. . .both have their advantages and disadvantages. . can't you all just accept and agree with that.

    and don't throw all the blaming on someone else, what i have seen in this massive amount of comment is you all just trying to throw all this matter to someone else.
    why can't any of tries to think and give comment on others point of views. Why does otaku exist? Because people who look down on someone who love animes exist, they say that having a hobby such as that is disgusting.
    Isn't that going to make theme more desperate and leading them to otaku's life??

    "because 3D woman just going after a guy with wealth" well i don't blame them, that because you guys didn't choose carefully. If you guys know that she is a money sucking ***** well, just dump her, leave her and search for someone better.

    and for the ladies, if your BF is going into 2D girls, well then, that's means there are something about you girls that you a lack, why don't you all sit down and try to reflect yourself.

    well i don't mean to scold you all. I just want to shares some of my opinion. So no hard feelings, okay. . .?? Peace!!

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