Pope Sued over Shota Sex

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The pope is being sued for failing to do anything about priests who used boys under their care for sex.

A long running series of scandals in which US Catholic priests are alleged to have had sex with young boys, only to have their crimes covered up by the church hierarchy, has resulted in extensive legal action, which now targets the pope himself.

The man at the centre of this case claims he was sexually abused by Father Lawrence Murphy, who has been accused of sexually abusing hundreds of the boys under his care at a Milwaukee school for deaf children in the 1970s. Murphy died in 1998, without facing any official action from the church.

At the time, the church responded to complaints by simply moving the priest to another diocese, without pursuing any legal action against him or expelling him from the clergy.

Critics contend such treatment was routine, with priests caught at it often going on to pursue their taste for pederasty in new positions.

Complaints should have been referred to a church body then headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who is now Pope Benedict XVI. However, the body did nothing and claimed it only heard about the case later.

The Vatican has called the claims that it knew about the affair but failed to do anything “ignoble,” and denied any wrongdoing.

The man’s lawsuit, naming the pope and several cardinals, seeks full disclosure of all such cases. He is not demanding financial compensation.

Moral improprieties in the Catholic church, particularly pederasty, have for over a thousand years been a major area of criticism.

Theories as to why it is so afflicted range from the church recruiting a disproportionately high number of homosexuals to its priests being warped by their vows of celibacy; whatever the cause, after persisting for so long it seems to have become an accepted and deeply ingrained part of Catholic tradition, at least amongst priests.

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  • Anonymous says:

    people here are just pissed since they all got fooled there was a santa and now recent every present you get as an adult. beetchaz.
    same christian system being bad mouthed
    is the same one giving the victims in the U.S.
    the right to sue. Doubt they would be as lucky
    in countries where you can get stoned to death
    or decapitated for even looking at someone wrong.
    thats right, drive the attention away from
    all the loliconers here and focus it on the
    old horny priest cliche.
    like thats new.

  • Hate to tell you, but the fact that this is a “Catholic priest ONLY phoenomena” is a total sack of BS perpetrated by mass media.Until about 20 years ago such things were not reproted by the media or discussed publicly, or outside of the parties involved.Cases of molestation going back up to 70 years are finally being brought to light by victims that have suffered in silence for decades, but rarely could or would talk about what had happened to them because of the shame,ebarassment, and stigma that wereassociated with such things until it became “socially acceptable”(said facetiously)to finally be able to discuss the subjects in a publicly.It’s society’s own fault those who suffered from such abuse felt they never could seek help or talk about the abuse,and something far,far from limited to Catholic priests,the Catholic religion, or any religious faith at all.

  • What does one expect? People NEED sex. It is not a want.

    When you lead a life of celibacy your needs aren’t met, and you turn to the closest thing for intimacy. If this wasn’t true, a monk wouldn’t have been caught fucking a dog.

    • Also, people NEED religion. Atheists just have a religion they would like to disassociate with what most people think of tradition.

      Think about it: Do complicated mathematical equations disproving God mean anything to you, if you think that those equations are just a bunch of mumbojumbo that equally makes no sense as the person who claims that bread and wine are the body and blood of some jew?

      • People NEED religion like wives NEED to be beaten by their husbands. Seriously… think before you type.

        Oh, and theism is religion, and atheism is the absence of theism, ergo atheism is not a religion. There are theistic religions, of a multitude of diverse theosophy; but a religion can still be a religion without a deity present in it’s ideologies. In summary: there are atheistic religions.

        Also, there are no complicated mathematical equations disproving “God” because there are no remit of evident and ontological coherency to create a framework in which disproof and refutation make sense. In summary, the term “God” is meaningless and the intellectual world doesn’t bother with it because two things already displace it’s occupation: Occam’s Razor and the Null Hypothesis.

        Yet I doubt that anyone who thinks that “people
        NEED religion” has the cognitive girth to contemplate the common sense behind the ridicule of such an asinine statement.

      • ur a fucking moron! if ur relgious and need religion then so be it! BUT DONT CLAIM FOR A MINUTE THAT I NEED RELIGION! UR FUCKING STUPID! I DONT OVER DRESS AND WAKE UP EARLY TO PRAY TO A ZOMBIE JEW! I DONT PRAY OR ASK ANYTHING OF MYTICAL CREATURES! U DO! NOT ME! I DEPEND OF MY OWN STRENGTH AND THE PEOPLE I CHOOSE TO SURROUND MYSELF WITH! UR A FUCKING RETARD! THEIR IS NOTHING RELIGIOUS ABOUT WHAT I DO!

    • This is why the life of a priest is really exclusive.

      Celibacy is a discipline, not Dogma.

      Unfortunately, when people open schools for priests (seminaries) it discounts the fact that individuals are different from each other, because all priests learn the same thing about intellectual, philosophical stuff, but not the life-stuff, the things that a person has to go through as a flesh-and-blood human being, rather than this walking repository of knowledge.

  • Popular media focuses so much on homosexual pedophilia when there exists a proportionally larger abuse by Clergy of girls and nuns. Why is there such a witch hunt on this particular aspect of sexual abuse within the church when statistics and testimonies clearly demonstrate that most abuse is heterosexual.

    • “Because homosexuality is wrong, ewww! I mean, you totally can’t blame a man for using his power to pork a hot girl who might be a bit too young, it’s only natural, after all! But a boy?! That’s just unnatural and wrong, dude! Besides, good girls are supposed to never want sex anyways so fucking them when they say no is a good thing.”

  • What do you mean “it’s about fucking time”? you think you were the first generation to see any great attacks against the church?

    In the olden days, people who had something against the church actually raised armies and marched to Rome.

    Nowadays, you have these trolls who think their opinions weight more in the world than everyone else’s

    You’re just a bunch of punks compared to Napoleon, who actually DID imprison a Pope. You’re a bunch of punks compared to Hitler, who actually sent monks to concentration camps because of accusations of homosexuality. What did you do so far? Post comments at an internet website dedicated to women who aren’t even real. “I MADE A CHANGE IN THE WORLD!” yeah right.

      • They didn’t fell because of the Church, idiot.
        It is a well-organized and built structure, can be called a state (well it is, take Vatican), that, thanks to having no base region, is spreat-out everywhere, won’r fell like other empires did.
        You see, you conquer a country, kill its leaders, and its gone.
        But the Church? If you’d raze Rome, kill the Pope, so what? You still got millions of other places to go to erase it completly.
        And while empires are based on usually persons or their toughts, the Church is based on a religion and on an eternal, un-destroyable thingie, named God. It will be only killed if no one will follow it… that won’t happen soon.

        • You kill the Pope of Rome, there’s the Patriarch of Constantinople and the Pope of Alexandria. Then the Patriarch of Moscow, then of Jerusalem.

          You can’t win, atheists. You’re all too decentralized. If you become centralized, then you’d be powerful, but then you’d suffer the same problems with centralized entities.

          It’s absurd. No one wins.

  • it’s like.. pointless to rage about it, actually, from any side. The world is absurd, why would there be any outrage? It’s expected that some men just love little boys, some love 2-dimensional fictional characters.

    It seems like the person who made this article has to cling to what hate he has for the Catholic Church or any religion because when given absolute freedom, he wouldn’t know what to do with himself, probably masturbate, and even that wouldn’t be so satisfying after a while. Get a woman, then abandon that when it gets old. That’s the key to happiness, to attach yourself to something until it’s gone, then be angry, then move to something else, and repeat that cycle.

    I mean suppose the Catholic Church DID become abolished? Then it’s about the Muslims. Then the Jews, then the Buddhists, then the Hindus, until the only thing left to hate are the Amish.

    Then what? In a world full of Atheists, I’m certain that someone will come up of a reason to hate another group within that larger group. “It’s those damn weak Atheists! They’re getting a free ride to what Explicit, Strong Atheists have fought for!”

    It goes on, and on.

    • “I mean suppose the Catholic Church DID become abolished?”
      Then a few hundred new branches of Catholism would be born. Nothing new, happens with religions all the time. The reason why it hasn’t happened already to the same extent as with other branches spawned from it, is the focus on the Vatican and the Pope. They have amassed a great amount of wealth and power over the time it has existed.

      As an atheist, though not a “militant” one, I don’t see religions ever dissapearing from humanity. Some people simply need to feel there is a Big Brother (or “Sky Daddy”) that’s watching their every move and rewarding them for the good things they do, in order to feel it’s worth it and worth not just obeying their antisocial whims and impulses. (no, seriously, it is freakishly disturbing every time I hear or read Christian commenters say that if there is no god then they might as well be raping and murdering since nobody’s keeping count… So the rest of the humans matter that little?! Why would anyone be so sick as to prefer your fellow man be mutilated rather than happy for being treated decently?!)

      The problem I personally see with religion is the amount of power they have. If people had religion as hobby, the same way others have Lovecraftian mythoses or the stories of the norse gods, or the greek/roman gods, then all would be well. If it inspired them to become better people, it would be swell. If people came together to celebrate the stories of Jesus or whatever, as inspirational myths that made them better people, that would be pretty cool. But that isn’t what the three major religions do. Yes, there are a few secular branches that are like that, but those are too few.

      Abolishing the Catholic Church, would not result in the end of Catholism. Just the end of it in its current incarnation. Thousands of new versions of Catholism would be spawned, and hopefully some of those versions would be far more amazing and benificial to humankind than it’s old version.

      That said, the Catholic Church isn’t likely to get abolished. It will probably just get some downsizing and changes in older policies to prevent things like this from happening again.

      • Also, it’s true, what you say; If the Roman Catholic Church is abolished, Christianity will not end.

        You have:

        Shenouda III: The Pope of Alexandria, leader of the Coptic Christians of Egypt.

        Cyril I: Patriarch of Moscow and All Rus

        Bartholomew I: The Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople

        Greek Patriarch Theophilos III of Jerusalem
        Greek Patriarch Ignatius IV of Antioch
        Greek Patriarch Theodore II of Alexandria

        And many, many, many, many more.

        You remember the theory of Social Contract? People are willing to invest power in a single person for a purpose. You cannot underestimate the power of fear and uncertainty in people… They have to find some sort of escape, or some sort of anchor in an otherwise absurd world.

      • I really don’t think that heads of religion are on the same level as power-mongering politicians are. If you look at political figures, they are mostly in it for themselves, personal gain- it’s apparent, with the cutthroatery and the underhanded alliances they make. They scheme too much. In the case of the Pope, they have learned their lessons after centuries of temporal rule. (We Catholics actually had Popes that went on military campaigns, etc.) In the case of the Dalai Lama, he stated if atheists find a way to disprove all religion and convince people of their reasoning, then he personally would abolish it, and Tibetans would go back to a shamanist way of life.

        Power-mongering betrays the purpose of Pope, which is to keep the Catholic Church together, until Jesus arrives. That’s all. The Pope is a glorified housekeeper. The only reason why anyone would accuse him of being anything else is because of history, and not because of actuality. He has his power out of a set of circumstances that are not entirely his own making. When people put something on a pedestal, it’s hard to really be an iconoclast.

        I guess in the case of an Atheist, waiting for Jesus is like being in the middle of the desert with people who think that they’ll be rescued by an airplane that hasn’t arrived as promised. The Pope is the one who keeps giving hope that the plane will arrive sometime later. The Atheist, however, is willing to walk through the desert to actually find help, even though there’s an equal chance of there being nothing outside the group he leaves. It’s an absurd set of circumstances, really. In those kinds of circumstances, you need to make a leap of faith in one way or another.

  • are you kidding? Us Catholics have been enduring all sorts of persecution, inside and outside. First it was the Jews who view the Jesus-Worshippers as weird. Then the Romans, who view their lack of emperor-worship as atheistic, ironically enough.

    Then, when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman empire, it’s persecuted by any Eastern Roman Emperor who disagreed with the pope, or any warlord who happened to hold Rome at the time.

    Then, when it barbarians think they became civilized, the kings of Europe often conflicted with the Church. Then around 1500’s, Martin Luther, much like people here and throughout history, complained about abuses in the Church. Around that time, protestants sprung from the ground like daisies; John Calvin, Henry VIII, the Hugenots, Anabaptists, etc. If it’s not from within,then it’s the Muslims from without- the Barbary Pirates, the Turcs, the Mongols, the Arabs.

    500 years later, we have the mass media and exploding vans, internet experts with unwarranted self importance, all participate in a circle jerk as to who can shout all sorts of threats and insults the loudest in the internet against the Catholic Church.

    In the future? What do you mean in the future? When our Lord Jesus Christ comes back, the Catholic Church will be dissolved, because its purpose was to be a sort of a band aid until He gets back. You know how band aids get gross and dirty, and stuff.

    What is a church-going Catholic like me doing in Sankoku? Well, I WAS trying to masturbate to fictional 2-d characters, but apparently everyone is too busy trying to fellate Richard Dawkins and company for me to get a proper orgasm.

    Should I feel bad because you think I’m a hypocrite? Nope. We’re all a bunch of hypcorites, in one way or another. None of us are perfect, after all. It’s just that absurd to think that one forum is more true than the other.

    A person’s soul is their own responsibility. God will be the ultimate judge, not the Pope, not the Saints, and God forbid, not the scum that inhabit this hell.

  • well sounds like no money, so i’m all game for it. I feel the church should have to publically admit to what has happened. then either fire the preists that have been guilty, or at least have them do as all sex offenders have to do and tell the whole town and congregassion that they are a registered sex offender. and do this to any new town they move to and work.

  • wtf, the man has his own fucking sovereign nation and has motherfucking swiss guards protecting him. if I were him, I would laugh my ass off, and then drink the blood of a virgin girl.

  • In ireland “fallen” women were sent to magedeline academies to be instructed in how to be proper women by priests and nuns.

    If only the Irish watched hentai…then they’d know what the nuns and priests were doing to those poor women.

  • The irony here is that pederasty is in no way restricted to just the Catholic church and is quite common in both the history and modern culture of most religions. This is merely what happens when you come out and admit to it–everyone jumps your bones for making yourself an easy target.

    • Other institutions don’t have well organized, institutional cover up operations to prevent prosecution. Sure, there are pedos and rapists in every field, but only in the Catholic Church will your boss keep you out of prison.

  • The pope shouldn’t be sued over crap. As I have said many times before, if these people REALLY didn’t want to be having sex with the people in question, why the hell didn’t they just tell them that and threaten to tell an authority figure if they didn’t leave them alone, as I did when I was a child?

    This REEKS of ‘fucker’s remorse’, that the relationships were consensual (yes, there is such a thing as consensual relationships between adults and children), and that these nitwits simply don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions and INactions.

    Parents have been telling their children for 40 YEARS now that even adults do not have the right to touch them in any fashion without their permission, which is the right thing to teach them.

    • No, it’s a way to use a group of perfectly normal people (pedosexuals) as a scapegoat in order to direct people’s attention away from other problems in society AND to destroy the Catholic Church.

      • Some “pedosexuals” need to learn the definition of “normal”. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean “the most hated sexual fetish on the planet”. Not even gays and lesbians enjoy the status of “normal”.

  • This must be how they get every one ready for their long stints in jail, the gang members – train the boys young that butsex is good. So males want to go to prison which explains the ultra high crime rate here on the border of south texas. They all want to have non stop constant butsex.

  • Haha, I saw this on the front of my local newspaper this morning at my store.

    As for the article, pedo priests petting prepubescent boys is nothing new… the old shits finally getting their problem brought to their front door; About damn time lol

  • Child molestation almost never has anything to do with homosexuality (or any other sexual preference). That’s like saying prison rape is all about everyone behind bars being gay.

    It’s about power. You give someone authority and a huge supply of people under their foot, and things like this will happen. There were also cases in which little girls were violated as well.

    Way to be objective.

    • Sorry, but no, ‘child molestation’ (which I could call adults having sex with adults ‘adult molestation’) is NOT about power.

      In fact, the truth is that the CHILDREN have all the power in those relationships, because ONE WORD to their parents or an authority figure? BOOM! That person is in danger of being killed or injured, whether or not the relationship is consensual.
      That puts ALL the power in the hands of the child in question.

      It is simply time to realize that pedosexuality is a NORMAL sexuality, and move on past the bullshit that the religious losers keep trying to push on us.

      Simple fact: WE ARE BORN WITH GENITALS, THEREFORE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USING THEM FROM BIRTH OR SOON AFTER. SINCE THERE IS NO FORCEFIELD BETWEEN ADULT AND CHILD GENITALIA, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT NATURE EXPECTED ADULTS AND CHILDREN TO HAVE SEX TOGETHER!

      • Most of these priests are not ‘raping’ (unless you count statutory rape, which should not even be a crime) anyone.

        As I keep pointing out: ONE THREAT to tell an adult on these people, and these people would BACK OFF!

        These relationships are C O N S E N S U A L! And a bunch of idiots just don’t want to take responsibility for allowing a priest to have sexual relations with them, and are whining about it to get some money out of the church years later.

        • Eternal damnation in hell AND your parents being disgusted by you and shunning you forever because you’re brazen enough to tell such lies/reveal that you are that tainted… or just STFU and do as the unpleasant link to God tells you becase what they say is the right thing?

          You have to keep in mind, that the awareness of child rapes and molestations in the church is a fairly recent thing. 50 years ago, if you would have dared to speak such filth about a holy man of God, you would have been in serious shit and be considered to sprout vile lies about that man of cloth. Priests have always been given exceptional trust by their flock, as they are their shepherds and connection to God.

          TL;DR: Breed and reinforce sheep-mentality among your group, and sheep mentality you will get – making the weak be even more vulnerable for predators.

        • Ikuhisashiku says:

          @anon 5:31
          The only thing I’d like to point out is this —
          What about the times when the relationship isn’t consensual? Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m all for consensual relationships, and I also think statutory rape shouldn’t be a crime if consent was given by both involved. Yet and still, what about the cases when they are merely coerced into the relationship? Or what about when they’re just too slow to simply say no?

    • The Pope sent a formal letter of apology to the churches in Ireland. Sure, it’s an apology, but it’s better than Pope Benedick denying any claims that this scandal is a reality.

      I wish Pope John Paul were here. -_-

    • It’s easy to blame the Catholic Church, because the leadership of that organization has been shown to perform and cover up child abuse in a well organized and executed manner. The problem is institutional. Seems pretty simple to me.

      You can’t really compare that to Sunni or Shiite sects of Islam, because there is no institutional rape of children or cover up thereof in either sect.

    • Amusingly enough, you proved your own point regarding people generalizing.

      Catholicism is a denomination of the Christian religion.

      Islam similarly has many denominations, such as Sunni, Shiite, and Sufi Islam.

      Remarks against Catholics or the entire Roman Catholic Church (the largest denomination of Christianity) would be more akin to remarks against Sunni Muslims or the Sunni branch (the largest denomination of Islam).

        • Remarks against the Roman Catholic Church, having mostly been coming from people who have a vendetta against the church, are usually hard to believe. Yes, many problems exist within the church, but to say that the entire Roman Catholic Denomination is guilty of everything people say it is? A lot of the claims have been overblown many times in the past, and I wouldn’t doubt if, at any point, this is also overblown to some degree.

    • Yes, please declare a WORLD WAR, then say that Christianity start wars. And for the record, atheists have had the highest amounts of murder, Hitler (at least 10 mil), Stalin (20 mil), and Mao (unknown, but estimated to be 40 mil). The only sign any of them were religious in any way was when Hitler wanted to be a priest in his early years.

      • They have the right to believe what they want but they do not have the right to force their beliefs on others. Forcing beliefs on others is what Christianity specializes in. So before you go “Hey there Stalin”, you really ought go “Hey there Yahweh”.

        Then again, Antiweeaboo, with accomadationalist, politically correct rhetoric like that, I have doubts about your understanding of the actual history on the issue.

      • JFYI: Stalin wasn’t against the Church (he couldn’t even if he wanted – he had to (and did) use its support during WW2). It’s Lenin who was against the Church, if you want someone from the USSR so much. I’d go with Hitler instead.
        /offtop

  • “Moral improprieties in the Catholic church, particularly pederasty, have for over a thousand years been a major area of criticism.”

    the greeks though sex with little boys to be a right way to go , it was socially required . And many muslims though women as mount of satan .

    this is a recent development

    • The Greeks were a little different because of the way they viewed love. They were more like NAMBLA, I guess. These priests were all about rape and physical/sexual abuse. The intent was harm from the start.

  • everyone says muslims are violent and crazy, but they forget that 70-80 years ago christians and catholics were killing homosexuals and people who burned bibles!

    remember the holy wars and the crusades and how they would kill/rape&sodomize non-believers? no, of course you don’t sheeple! christianity and catholicism are the SAME as islam, both psycho violent religions with pedophiles who run it. only difference is christianity only allows priests to do it! take a look at ireland and all their relgious terrorism this century.

  • I’m probably wrong but, isn’t the Pope the embodiment of God or some such? Helping the pedophiles, in my opinion, is the same as saying God himself approves of it. Which is fine, because the bible contains verses descriptive or advocating suicide, incest, bestiality, sadomasochism, sexual activity in a violent context, murder, morbid violence, use of drugs or alcohol, homosexuality, voyeurism, revenge, undermining of authority figures, lawlessness, and human rights violations and atrocities. Doesn’t seem to make invisible friend religions seem any worse than they already are.

    • The Pope is Chist’s Vicar on Earth.He is the successor of Peter(the “Rock” of the Church), who was Jesus’ most beloved Apostle, and the first “Pope” of the Catholic Church.

      • According to recently found gospels, Mary may have been actually. I’m really surprised most people don’t acknowledge that ALL the apostles wrote Gospels, not just the 4 whose gospels were put in the Canon in 400 A.D. and whether she was an apostle or not Mary Magdalene wrote one too. Jesus taught people to THINK, and accept god because it was right, not because your parents and pedophile priests tell you too. yet the Church had all but destroyed rational thinking until the 1800’s. Before that any one with an intelligent idea that went against THEIR teaching, even if there were no contradictions in the Bible, the person was labeled a pariah. The Church is far from infallible and people need to figure out what the Bible means to them. Even if you still hold to Catholic beliefs, please, at least consider reading the “banned” Gospels. each Apostle saw Jesus a different way, and you cant truly know his teachings from what only four people remember. There is a saying that if 20 people see a car accident there will be 20 different stories as to what happened.

    • the Pope is the minister of God on Earth, not his embodiment.
      Jesus Christ is something close to the embodiment of God; and whatever logic you may use, it’s just useless, ’cause they don’t go for logic, and always refuse logical reasoning.
      that’s why “faith” was born…

      • Tex_Arcana says:

        It’s not even logic they can’t handle, it’s basic math.

        A messiah, his dad, and the spiritual incarnation thereof do not monotheism make. And then there’s the whole saint thing…

        • Which is ironic, since non-trinitarian theology is seen as heretical…

          What can I say? The religion is like chocolate twist: all wrapped up in itself and enough of it will kill you.

  • -.- ffs just let them marry … evangelical priest can have Men or Woman can make Childeren and there have no shits like this … here in germany nuns have forbiden sex with priest get children and then they must kill them bc of the freaking church and vatikan -.- …
    we live in the 21 chentury so everbody can have sex but only the catholic priest cannot thats why there so not bc there psychologically disturbed …..

      • Diplomatic immunity only applies to crimes defined within nations, IE: stuff an individual nation could try an individual person for, like child molestation. It specifically does *not* apply to war crimes, which are governed by the UN. In both of those cases (Saddam, Milosevic), the heads of state were deemed war criminals and were tried and convicted by the UN accordingly. That’s how they were able to be prosecuted and executed under international law.

        The Pope could still be able to be prosecuted, though. Diplomatic immunity is a property of being a member state of the UN. The Vatican is not a member state of the UN. Ergo, diplomatic immunity legally does not exist for the head of the Vatican, IE: the Pope. Ergo, he can be prosecuted. Some badass motherfuckers in the UK, namely Richard Dawkins and some lawyers, are planning to try just that when the Pope visits.

    • Sue the pope! Its the American way!

      That is the equivalent of suing the President of the United States because you were wrongfully denied for disability income.

      I am not saying that the pope doesn’t share at least SOME of the responsibility. it is just that suing him is a bit….. dumb.

      • Most other religions allow priests to marry, including any other Christian-based ones (other than Catholicism). Why not?

        The whole ‘Priests/Nuns must remain celibate’ thing is a holdover from back during the Dark Ages when the Church didn’t want their clergy leaving property to their own children as inheritance. And so the property would revert back to the Church at the clergy member’s death. It’s about money, plain and simply.

        • The clergy never had any property. One of the vows taken when you are made a priest is vow of poverty alongside vow of abstinence. The real reason was that the catholic church at the time felt that their fathers were too busy spending time on top of their wives instead of tending to their flock and ensuring continued contributions to fund catholic coffers.

  • …And this is why I call bullshit when it comes to religions. There’s nothing holy or sacred about them. While hundreds of molester priests just get shuffled around, an old hag get life sentence for making one lone kid touch her boob (not that she didn’t deserve some kind of punishment, but it’s ridiculous).

    There are over 9000 branches of catholicism and christianism alone in the US, and depending on what you want to do (be a drunk, fuck animals, smoke, be an adulterer) you just have to accept the branch that tells you it’s “A-ok” to do those things; WTF.

    • I partially blame the public, and government for this. Those priests should be in jail, no in some other church after raping some kid, and no amount of bullshit from any religious agency should prevent that.

    • Tex_Arcana says:

      Oh Bullshit.

      The problem isn’t celibacy, the problem is the lifestyle the church represents.
      You offer someone a unlimited Mediterranean vacation, they’re going to snap at it, especially if they’re poor.

      And even that wouldn’t be an issue if they’d investigate and sentence, rather than cover for, child molesters.

      • No such thing as ‘child molestation’, tex. As I have pointed out before, I could call sex between two adults ‘adult molestation’ and it would have exactly that same amount of sand in it as ‘child molestation’, which is NONE!

        It’s simply time to realize that pedosexuality is a normal sexuality, bring it out into the open, and remind these children “Hey, NITWIT! We have been telling you children for 40 YEARS now that NO ONE has the right to force you to allow them to touch you against your will! STOP ALLOWING IT IF YOU TRULY DON’T WANT IT and tell an adult if it happens!”

        The truth is that 99.999999999999% of the relationships between adults and children are:
        C O N S E N S U A L! Period, done with, argument over!

        • The percentages would be wrong for adults, too. At the least it could be less than 67%, and at the most about 99% (only one hundredth of all adult relationships non-consensual? yeah right).

        • Tex_Arcana says:

          Look, it’s obvious this is a cause important to you, but it’s neither here nor there.

          Even though some of the victims were in their teens, I highly doubt all of them were homosexual. That makes it abuse, pure and simple.
          An adult and a child do not have equal status in normal society, and even less so given one’s status as clergy.

          I’m pretty sure that 40 year figure isn’t in use throughout the world, either. It’s certainly nothing near that in the US.

    • this is why i say that you either learn how to functionaly do it with a woman,have children and raise them and only have sex with your woman.
      Or also masturbation since your womans sex drive is not so big as a man sex drive is,use legal porn and all hentai which ever genre you like.Since people are still failing to fullfil that natural sex drive and then dsyfunctional nature kicks in.
      Oh yeah and those who are against masturbation,well you see nothing helps even if they are religious and try to resist it.So i say legal porn and all hentai for safety of all people,just don’t masturbate too much.

      • Women’s sex drive is much stronger than what they show. It’s all one big lie that women themselves are taught to believe. Any woman who chooses to be free with her sexuality will be labelled as a whore. It’s no wonder that nearly all women choose to hide their true desires from the world. Why do you think those pseudo-porn novels sell like hot bread?

        This of course changes with age. Unlike men, women’s sexual drive rapidly declines as they go through their 40s.

    • Then what about women who do essentially the same thing (nuns)? I’m all for full disclosure since I’m interested in how big the population of priests are like this although I feel bad for all the honest ones just trying to help people since this stuff will affect them too.

      • Not really. Nuns and priests don’t need validation to help people. If it were true, then priests and nuns help people out of fear of god, and that is entirely the wrong methodology for doing it.

        There is a natural order to the prospect of those who have given up on life failing and dying, and our higher consciousness is the only thing that prevents that from being the way it is. Our compassion exists for a good purpose, however there is much to say for ‘tough love,’ allowing those who fail even when they are assisted to simply fail if they don’t have their own drive.

        I’m hypocritical though, I’ve given a friend of mine thousands to help his dumb ass out of financial issues, and he keeps spending shit he doesn’t have. Only reason I haven’t dropped him is he’s my friend, and he’s paid me back nearly all of it over time. It is ONLY because he has shown that level of responsibility that I continue to help him, even though in nearly every definition of the word, he is a loser.

        Humans need to prove their worth via actions. If this church needs validation from an external non-presence in order to help people, then the whole experiment is a failure.

      • Thank you for saying this. So many teens this generation think too naively about this issue, thinking that this discredits every priest out there, which it certainly does not.

        Luckily for me, not one priest I have ever talked to had such a dark history, as many of the churches I have visited are rather strict – and my dad knows a bunch of them from way back when when he was an altar server. Long story short, these are the sort of priests you want to tell your secrets to for guidance.

        I miss John Paul II. Now that was a man who kicked some major ass.

    • Perhaps the Vatican and local governments should stop acknowledging, then proceed to nullify all current man/church unions, and finally ban them entirely to preserve the sanctity of marriage?