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Fictional Women “Have Human Rights”

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Do fictional characters have human rights? Feminists working with the Japanese government apparently think so.

From a series of documents published on the Japanese cabinet’s Gender Equality Bureau, who may already be familiar:

Media depictions of sexual violence against women constitute a violation of the human rights of women, and are a major obstacle to the creation of a gender-equal society.

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Where violent or sexual media depictions of women are concerned, we must promote public understanding of this as a “human rights violation,” and ensure media are subjected to voluntary restraints.

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Voluntary censorship of media depictions of sexual violence should be promoted, and laws including censorship of virtual sexual violence against women in DVDs, video and PC games should be considered.

Rarely has the concept of “human rights” been abused so egregiously as by the latest wave of feminist inspired moral panic over two dimensional media.

In fact even the most cursory consideration reveals censorship according to “virtual human rights” could easily threaten a complete elimination of freedom of expression – if fictional women and children have human rights, by extension even men may have them too, meaning any story dealing with nonconsensual violence against men (practically all fiction of any interest) involves massive human rights violations.

Indeed, any criticism of the brave defenders of the rights of non-existent people might as well be condemned as promoting human rights violations.

The fundamental irony of using the rubric of “human rights” to rob people of one of their most fundamental rights seems lost on the advocates of this new wave of moral hysteria – hardly surprising considering it appears they have simply decided to parrot a serious sounding UN buzzword in the hopes of giving their extremist writings an air of legal credibility, with no appreciation of the ridiculousness of what they are saying.

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  • Anonymous says:

    where is the outcry in the political departement, when it comes to food supply speculation?
    and the fact that we (the western world) are dumping our trash in africa?
    yet they waste their time with this utter nonsense…

    whats wrong with this world?

  • Anonymous says:

    The next thing will probably be imposing human rights onto whatever is in your imagination. If you even get a boner you may go to jail (Nineteen Eighty-Four, anyone?). Shows that without the barrier between fantasy fiction and real-world common sense, even ideals like “human rights” become horribly, horribly tyrannical.

  • Anonymous says:

    lmao,fictional characters have human rights?What about all those characters in books that are created just to be killed of for a detective story? Again those feminists,throwing the first stone although I bet lots of them read those novels with adultery,murder,theft,robbery, etc. in them. Even 98% of the Tv-series make up fictional characters just to let them become victims of something.And another thing:
    If the feminists want to be treated like women,they should start acting like women.Why?Because feminists aren’t very womanly at all.They abuse drugs, send their children to daycare centers because their egoistic desire to work is more important than their children, they want extra rights just because they’re women (like the right to kill of their children during pregnancy because they feel like it or the right to keep being employed while delivering and raising their children) and,at the same time, want to be treated like men because men have higher salaries,better jobs and a higher social stand than women.If you ask me,they’re just a bunch of crazy chicken picking at everyone and everything. If they want to banish something,they should start and banish those S&M stuff,vibrators,etc. that are degrading women to be horny s#@&s and start living as a proper yamato nadeshiko ( because right now,they don’t identify themselves with those anime-beauties but those s#@&girls from hentai and eroge).
    Instead of that they should first stop prostitution,after that all porn magazines and films(where real women sell themselves)and after they succeded with all that they could try to convince us that a program with text and pictures has human rights…

  • First off, the characters are parts of the writer’s imagination, and therefore have given consent to be treated as such. The same way porn stars consent when doing fetish films.

    So no “human rights” are being violated here.

  • “FICTIONAL”. Did they not realize what they were talking about? It isn’t real. And for the sheer amount of rape and incest fantasy stuff they have it doesn’t have make a big deal. Japan has low rape and violence stats. There is little crime. Fictional characters don’t really need anything. BULL

  • Why should people who don’t exist have the same rights as people who actually needs them? Fiction women can suck my dick. In fact, they enjoy it! You know what? Fuck this. Why is this even an issue?

  • no they are not alive, the only problem is the context that they are presented, the persons whom like this should have the material put into context in relation to real life. The material itself is meaningless without the human element, feminists should look why men like it in the first place rather than damn the content

  • this what happen when you let women get over their head with the ‘equality and rights’ stuff…I ave no offense against people who fight for women right supposedly that they dun want to be in the dirt(mind you there are a lot of masochist women out there, why u think guy have the stick and women got the hole?)but this is just plain stupid>.<

  • Japan has freedom of expression for all, an important part of gender equality.

    Just because some people, like feminists, feel offended by freedom of expression does NOT mean that their human rights have been violated.

    However, any law criminalizing REAL people who draw or look at drawings is a GENUINE human rights violation.

    Some countries like the UK, Sweden, the Philippines and South Africa have already introduced these human rights abusing laws. In these countries, people who merely look at fiction in the form of drawings can be fined or locked up.

    These are the GENUINE human rights abuses. The victims are not just offended by a drawing!

    Japan should stand firm and say, we will not introduce human rights abuses into law.

    Is that clear enough?

    –freeXpression

    Sorry about the double post. Just wanted to clarify.

  • Gender equality in fiction exists NOW in Japan!

    It’s called freedom of expression for all.

    Just because some people, like feminists, feel offended by something does NOT mean that their human rights have been violated!

    However, any law criminalizing REAL people who draw or look at fictional drawings is a GENUINE human rights violation.

    Some countries like the UK, Sweden, the Philippines and South Africa have already introduced these human rights abusing laws. In these countries, people who merely look at fiction in the form of drawings can be fined or locked up.

    These are the GENUINE human rights abuses. The victims are not just offended by a drawing!

    Japan should stand firm and say, we will not stand laws which introduce human rights abuses.

    Is that clear enough?

    –freeXpression

  • No, they don’t. Only REAL LIVING PEOPLE have human rights. Not corporations, not businesses, not fictional people, PERIOD AND DONE WITH, ARGUMENT FINISHED FOR ETERNITY!

    They simply don’t.

  • SappedSentry says:

    I think I’m going to do my next speech presentation on this. We got the paper with acceptable topics to make a persuasive speech on and Feminism was on there. I’m sure I could make a good one on how feminist groups are bad and aren’t helping real girls anymore and only focus their attention on fictional ones. Or is this a bad idea to do, should I just go with something more normal?

    Only thing I think would be found weird of me doing this is that I’m a girl and I never liked the idea of feminism..this stuff has all just been adding to that.

  • wtf? Human rights? What is this? Is this the holocaust or something. Fucking feminists don’t know a damn thing and they abuse that term? Seriously, Eroge is not the holocaust. This is getting prepsterous

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s a good analogy with the holocaust.In fact, the holocaust was the same like this discussion until an interest group came up with a TV-Drama named holocaust in the late 1970s.After watching it,everyone got the wrong idea from what happened in WW2 and the same is tried here, they’re trying to force the thought on you that the moment those girls in eroge/hentai are raped is as if all the girls in the world were raped by you.Another fact is that,of those many rapes that happen in the world,most happen during warfare or on castastrophe-sites. The few others are partly done by serial rapists(it’s the governments fault for letting them out of prison again and again) or by those who have a strong urge and get the chance to do so(mainly triggered by the frivolity of young women that roam the streets alone at night wearing revealing clothes).

  • Considering in South Africa is a great example of human rights where men rape women and they do it in any place anytime, and Iran for example in that country women to be consider rape they have to take the word of a 4 male witnesses who watch the women being rape, in the United States Rape does happen its funny even women rape women in that country.

    Jessica Neuwirth, Navanethem Pillay, and Feryal Gharahi who happen to be the founders of Equlity Now are from those country which are the worst examples.

    • BeornKonnig says:

      Just as a footnote note not all South African men are rapists 99.5 of all the rape cases in SA are committed by black males aged 15-60 most of us white inhabitants find would never rape a woman but I know rape is totally acceptable in black culture

      • 15-60? Geez boy, you never heard of lemonparty? Hell puberty gobsmacked me when I was 10

        And, “would” sounds a wee bit poor, try “could” instead for that sense of finality and make it seem less wishy washy

        Be wary of counterrevolutionaries?!?!

        P.S. lulz at fakrism

  • Soon all kinds of rites groups are going to rape manga and anime Goku will be turned into a half jewish indian,chi-chi will be his confused french hermaphrodite lover and gohan will be a somali aids orphan they addopted and due to pollitical reasons piccolon will be called an earth dwelling extra terrestrial instead of an alien or namechian sayans wont get yellow hair and blue eyes anymore because that will be seen as nazi sympathetic aryan supremist propaganda

  • Barbarian of Gor says:

    The “Modern Women who seek to destroy Men” just are getting panicked and jealous.

    Imagine, the “Haughty, Bitchy Princess” stereotype Anime girl, like Karin from Street Fighter combined with others, like Kistache, etc. talking to the “Generic salaryman”… (I’m combining the Anime with the Hyena in Petticoat “Liberated” woman ideal;-)

    “Ohohoho! You are pathetic, and expressing interest in me is proof of that. But, since you are a well paid engineer, I think I will let you marry me. But only after years of pleading, then we’ll have to get a maid because I won’t do any house work. And don’t think I’ll give you sex regularly. You’ll also have to tolerate ‘Phil’ visiting me from time to time. (Outlaw type waves and smiles predatorally…) And I’ll need full unrestricted access to your bank account and your signature stamp so I can manage the household affairs….”

    “Wait! What are you doing?

    You are turning on your computer and booting up a PORN GAME!? What next, EEEEKKK!!!! You are masturbating in front of me? What is your major malfunction!?

    Phil, beat him up… WHAT!? Oh, you now have ‘at least some level of respect for him?’ Why, you… Wait, Phil, don’t go! I need a ride…”

    ———-

    The “Modern woman who seeks to destroy men” has achieved what she wanted, or at least desired because she thought that was what she wanted. She is protected as a “Weak victim” but at the same time “Empowered”. Furthermore, she’s been trained to hate all men and seek to use, abuse and discard them the same way that the worst of men had done in the past.

    But, all it is is desire. And, as a neat comic manga guide pointed out, it’s like “Tetris”. Fill in the row, they disappear and other sets of blocks that need placement keep dropping.

    Men see their friends ripped apart by one divorce after another, always the woman demanding and demanding and demanding but then the court system siding with her even with “Proof” of affairs, drug use, neglect and giving the man the shaft so to speak. And, I think from the get-go, lots of women actually set out to “Hurt” men by literally marrying them to later divorce them. Women who remain with their men or worse allow themselves to become housewives are constantly treated like dirt and pressured to change by their “Friends”. Children get so warped by this any “Reproductive” advantage is bacterial at best.

    So, it’s to the point where Men in the USA, Japan, other “Developed” countries just would rather find ‘alternatives’. Based on income/social options, they whack off to porn, go to hookers, go on sex tours, get ‘sex robots’…

    And, thus, we get to THIS type of article, THIS type of news… I wasn’t just dragging knuckles, this is exactly the point of “Equality Now” and the other “Hyenas in Petticoats”.

    They don’t want to “Save poor exploited women in the third world”. They want to “Trap” men in the “Developed” world with them. No porn. No hookers. No foreign tour option. Do whatever they can to force them to marry a woman, so the woman can cheat on him and divorce him for his income. People like that always start with the worst examples (like violent porn) but their goal is ALL porn.

    A real funny irony of that is that they also team up with “Religious” groups/authorities on this. Real “Unholy Alliance” as they are Atheist/pagan and militant lesbian led. But anything to cut up, cut down and enslave the “Man”. The religious types object to porn, and “Cultural engineering” from the chiefly “Liberal” views expressed in Porn magazines and the possibly of cultural change through guys that go on “Sex Tours” eventually bringing back a cutie. They don’t bring ’em back for “Hot pung tang”, they bring ’em back to be a “50s wife” since it’s not culturally racism/bestiality anymore which scares the “Good Christians” because they don’t want other cultures intruding.

    So you get the “Bible Banger” marching, lobbying and screaming alongside the “Atheist Tuna muncher who’d kill all men if she could”…it’d be funny, but they really mess up and hurt a lot of people.

    • BeornKonnig says:

      any those feminists should exercise their right to shut the fuck up all the things they are against in anime and manga is in the fucking bibble people who marries their 11n year old cousins and then it describes in detail how she struggled against the consumation of the marage jesus that’s loli incest rape and they arnt trying to get the bibble baned

  • Oh fuck off! this idea in its self ripps human rights a new arse hole because it denies freedom of artistic expression! I am starting to hate this world, I really am, its full of complete and utter fucking morons. they don’t even know how many chars are out there and they can’t stop people drawing it, its fucking stupid, if this is put in motion then wouldnt it be illegal to throw away an un wanted character design or a drawing that was done wrong because the lines on the paper might feel neglected. Anyone else have a deep growing murderous intent growing inside them, ’cause I sure as hell do.

  • Akira Hotate says:

    If fictional characters have human rights, that means they have a RIGHT to VOTE. Ok guys lets take our pencils, make a ton of characters, vote for fictional goverment taht would BAN feminist movements. 🙂

  • BeornKonnig says:

    really these feminazis nead to exercise their rite to shut the fuck up and not watch it if it offends you dont watch it

    secondly their ideals only suit them they arnt asking for the rite to be bitch slaped equaly

    if the otakus and nerds of the world are forced to watch only disney like crap its going to be ww3

    the fucken bibble is full of rape,incest,people marying their 11 year old cousin(loli rape incest)sodomy,prostitution,rape and impregnation by a ghost but thats thats okay becuase its in the bibble why dont they also try and get it banned

    how about the mind rape that goes on in schools where they teach creationism

    the irony is they are raping our freedom……..

  • BeornKonnig says:

    If those feminazis want their equalrites then they should also get the right to be bitchslaped equaly but they wont because they only want rights that suit them feminism is all fine and well until the shit hit hits the fan then they choose to leave every thing up to the guys im all for womans rights but not for warped and silly notions if we end up having to watch disney chibbi crap im gona make sure ww3 starts for fucks sake they ahve another right the right to shut the fuck up and not watch anything they dont like.

  • Please tell me it was just a late april fools joke on their side…
    I’ve read some articles about the idiocy of feminists in Japan, but this is just too much; if they really have time to protect pixels then they should have enough time to think of what is wrong with them.

  • For goodness sake I’m getting sick of Sankaku always crapping on over people who want to get rid of images depicting sexual violence against women and children.

    Do you not understand that in allowing such depictions to be published you are thereby acknowledging that it is acceptable to sexually abuse people.

    Of course 2D images have no human rights, but its the fact that by accepting that you accept what is going on in the picture – and that is what needs to be stopped.

    Go ahead and say ‘if you don’t like it don’t come on the site’, but I’m putting in my two cents.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sorry but what your saying is bullcrap there is no possible way anyone who is in their right mind would not and could not put anything the saw or drawn into practice is however some has got something wrong in their head then their likely to perform an act they see be it violent or otherwise. What the feminists have got wrong is that there are people who don’t agree with them sankaku is not “Crapping on other peoples views” those women are trying to stop freedom of expression.

      All in all they are wrong sankaku are only giving their opinion on the matter. So yeah I’ve you don’t like it don’t stay.

    • Epic lulz is epic. Next, we’ll ban all mystery/murder novels, cause you know, murder is bad. Then we’ll ban every depiction of murder, cause murder is bad. Then we’ll ban all depictions of even remote violence, cause violence is bad. Then we’ll ban the Bible, cause it has all these bad things inside. Damn, we can ban everything. Then, the globe will be safe, watching some censored version of Teletubbies for eternity, and we’ll all be mindless blissful zombies.

      Seriously, the fact that the word “moron” fails miserably to describe the level of idiocy of people like you is incomprehensible. I can’t even calculate the number of facepalms required for that much fail.

    • i only understand you are wrong.

      let just say the feminist is right in this case, what next? ban all kind of porn? and movie with violence?books? games? and what have you got left?

      deep down, i believe they dont really care at all, they only want political power. i mean if they have time to save 2d, why dont they save women of africa and muslim girl being sold?

    • “Do you not understand that in allowing such depictions to be published you are thereby acknowledging that it is acceptable to sexually abuse people.”

      If fictional depictions equaled acceptance, than the “acceptance” of murder is a far more serious problem than that of sexual assault.

      In conclusion, get your filthy paws off my freedom of expression. gb2china

    • wrong logis is fail.
      for example i like fps games a lot. that doesn’t mean i approve killing people, it’s just fiction dude. nothin is real, so no-one is harmed.
      and the same goes with hentai (violent ones too), and with lolicon.
      i accept 2d images, i accept what happens in them, stating it’s confined inside the picture, but i DO NOT approve when someone does it in the real world. c’mon the difference is evidently clear.
      by your logic, if you have a dream in which you see an abused women, are you committing a crime? are you abusing women by dreamin’ of them being raped? c’mon dude, you just don’t see how your argument is total FAIL.

  • They don’t consider violence against virtual women to be a human rights crime. They consider it a crime by proxy against women.

    This argument is further seen in discussions about lolicon where many lolicon opponents argue that the existance of lolicon is itself a crime against children.

  • What. The. Shit?

    These “feminist” need to shut the fuck up and eat a dick. What honestly gives them the right to think that they can impose their beliefs on them? Shit. We could all do the same and say that being a “feminist” is just as bad as being a “misogynist” and plays eroge or thinks it’s cool that these FICTIONAL women are depicted this way. IT’S OUR DAMN HUMAN INSTINCTS GOD DAMN IT!

    • Anonymous says:

      The only reason why people nowadays need these kind of things(hentai/eroge/Dms/Dws/etc…) is because the feminism destroyed the way a woman should be. Nowadays we men get ripped off,tricked into marriage for alimony, get our children taken away from us, get stultified in front of our relatives/friends,are cheated on and still are blamed for everything by these feministic women. That’s exactly why most man nowadays have to fear to get married, because marriage doesn’t mean a lifelong support from the other party anymore(b^%*&$s like my mother who leave their husband after years of providence and devotion(that the husband showed for his wife)just to hang out with unemployed foreigners and drug addicts and rip off thousands of dollars of alimony and even stole the childrens part).Since the “virtual wifes” can’t do anything for you except helping you to release your “urges”, the stimuli have detoriated quite a bit.Still, the important fact is that it is due to the women getting “greedier” that lots of men have a hard time to find themselves a suitable partner and a lot of them already started marrying foreign women since they are still more tradional educated (meaning they are 100% women that can do everything a women needs to do).Also,due to the increasing time amount a normal education takes nowadays,people are mostly over 24 before getting married= they need their virtual wifes support because their urge is quite high in the 20s.Also,the feminists should be happy that the guys use the games and not dozens of women each year(which could mislead one to the belief that it’s normal to sleep around,to abort unborn children,to have several partners before marrying,etc.) what would indicate that women are merely talking and thinking dakimakuras/dutchwives and not respected members of humanity. Giving those characters the same rights that human women have would mean to debase women in reality because they’d become mainly the same and have only 1 purpose left in being women which would be sleeping with men to bear their offspring.

  • I full heartedly support their cause. In fact, once they’ve managed to secure the rights of 2D characters everywhere, I’ll raise up the issue of a slave trading operation going around world wide.

    That’s right, 2D characters are constantly being sold in cages known as ‘manga’, ‘anime’, and ‘comics’, and I demand that they be let free to roam among the public. For free. So that they can enjoy the company of other people. Like me.

  • It’d be better to say abuse of fictional women encourages abuse of real women…

    Saying inanimate drawings have rights is like saying a blender shouldn’t be forced to shred food and mix milkshakes…

  • What are the feminists talking about? Gender equality?
    Male’s are not complaining about games/videos/manga where male characters get raped by female/s or even loli/s. (it’s actually considered as a fetish)

    Hell.. most males don’t even care if theres manga where other males rape them. (which is also one form of fetish).

    there’s plenty of equality in porn.

  • “and ‘ensure’ media are subjected to ‘voluntary’ restraints.”

    Wait what?

    So when are these women going to open up their eyes and try to join the real world?

    This basically comes from, in my opinion, the shattering of the worldview these women had that all women are not princesses and they are trying to get back that status.

    Why aren’t they campaining against violence in general?

  • I wonder if they realize that pornography featuring staged rape is legal, because both actors are consenting adults. But I’ll play along… Who’s to say that the fictional woman aren’t also consenting adults.. But that’s irrelevant because the shear thought that fiction has actual rights is insane.

  • See! SEE!!!! See what you liberals are doing to the world! First, “Hey animals have rights.” Now, “Two dimensional animations and drawings of humanoid characters have rights.” If it doesn’t have duties and/or the ability to make moral decisions it does not have rights, therefore only real life living breathing HUMANS have rights.

  • As a woman, I am completely against what their doing. 2D and 3D violence are not connected in any way, so why must the 2D suffer?
    Seriously, these people need to find women that are actually hurting. REAL women in situations of REAL oppression.

  • Ha! Funny how they’ve excluded Nagato, Fate, and pretty much a whole third of female characters! Human rights are for humans only, right? What about the aliens, clones, spirits, and monstergirls? They ignore those because racism is abundant, I suppose.

  • I don’t know, 2D women have rights. The right to get fapped to that is, for that is the purpose of their existence and why they are created. To strip them of this purpose is to strip them of their so called rights.

  • Of course that’s no more true than saying that depictions of murder are actual murders.

    I think I know how to sink these guys though – charge them with fraud. They are trying to get laws changed at the national level, based on false and misleading premises. It’s essentially an attempt to hijack international society for their own selfish agenda (they don’t like it, so make it stop at the source.) Wow… they’re actually villains. Here I thought something so corny didn’t exist as such.

  • if fictional woman have human rights, every fictional human has them; this means that not only violent sex should be censored, but also plain violence (rainbow), plot describing every sort of racial discrimination (orguss!).
    that means that we should expect very linear and boring plot from anime/manga if these idiots succeed in their crusades.

  • Don’t mean to break you guys’ expressions of anger here yo, but…

    We won’t make a change on what them narrow-minded, unjustifiably biased, selfish, and/or just plain retarded feminists mindset. What we CAN do however, is stand up and be as vocal as those retards as well. The mass of mangakas from Japan did it once with the petition(as covered here in SanCom), and to do your part, send mails to the relevant authorities and explain shit to them in the most rational sounding way(instead of BAAAAWWWWWing more about it, making us look more psychologically challanged as the feminists believe). Hell, go make some (peaceful)fuss large enough to grab media attention, and there ya go.

    This insanity has to stop. Women’s rights? Am I the only one to think that women these days have so much rights to them that when compared to what men has, their advantages are just waaaaay up there? Some people don’t understand the concept of ‘equality’ well.

    Am I the only one to think they the feminists are not fighting for ‘equality’, but rather ‘superiority’?

  • Activist groups are political groups funded by billionaires and ultra rich foundations defending the interests of the people that provides the money. They DON’T care for human lives or human rights, they aim for political gains.

    As long as you can understand this simple logic their actions will suddenly make sense.

    Remember: every activist group is the same. Ever.

  • Lol…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    Whats next, socks have rights to?

  • RoninJinobi says:

    …you know if equality gets achieve I’m personally gonna cunt punt every single one of these “equality” activists. and i won’t have to stop there I’d give ’em a beat down that’s EQUAL to a beat down I’d give a man :3

  • I agree they have human rights since they are human character. But because they are fictional, let fictional character handle the problem. After all they are technologically more advanced than us (doraemon, gundam, etc) and have great detective like conan, etc. Let them investigate these matter themselves!

    • Now why haven’t I thought of this argument? It works in international relations (“We’re communists. #$&% you!”)

      Let fictional problems be dealt with fictional means by fictional government. (“Our soldiers only wear cute undies while being leg-strapped in rockets. #$&% you!”)

  • Wow that’s bigger bullshit then the idea the corporations have 1st amendment rights. Women like this make me ashamed to be female. Feminists focus on REAL issues to women, like I dunno, helping REAL rape/domestic abuse victims? What about the train chikan problem? Why not educate the meek women of Japan how to defend themselves and catch these people. These groups/politicians don’t care about real women, they care about looking good politically.

    • it would be nice if that happened, but it never will. Greed and Oppression are the humans oldest passtimes, and both will never dissappear, not till we die off. The people looking to fight for actual human rights are almost gone.
      I’m about at the point where i’m gonna go buy a ton of manga, and go strand myself on an island, so i don’t have to suffer through the bullshit of the feminazis and moralfag politicions.

  • What about movies, you know non-animated ones? There are lots of movies where characters are brutally raped, beaten or killed. Now how is this any different?

    If anything movies and TV shows by there standards are much worse considering they contain REAL flesh & blood people. Maybe they should make anime etc as if they were real characters so it seems as if they were following a script?

    You can’t reason with people like these so don’t bother, they aren’t women looking for equality, they are simply women who are abusing there power and claim to do it in the name of equality.

    Now as a woman I agree women need more rights but this isn’t one of them. The idea of this if anything mocks women who actually need help or are currently suffering in places like, oh lets say the middle east. Yet they piss away all this money on trying to bring rights to fictional characters?

    But some of the people on this site aren’t exactly helping the cause. We are all aware this site consists of mostly male users. I see incredibly sexist comments directed at women. Hell I know for a fact some people from this site have driven female users away, it’s upsetting to say the least.

    I could quote endless comments but I wont, because the users who matter and aren’t like that know what I’m talking about.

    And then there are the threating emails and death threats. Yes some of you have been sending them and you know who you are. Now how is THAT helping the cause? If you all acted mature and level headed, you would give them a lot less ammo to use.

    And yes we all know EN are a bunch of liars, who manipulate comments to make this site look bad and to make the people who like hentai seem like a bunch of animals, but there is no need to sink to that level.

    People should perhaps open there mind a little more and see other things in the world that don’t apply to them, and know that problems exist outside there own little world.

  • This never gonna happen.

    What if theres a violent Flash-Back of a child ? then they cant show that part because a stupid “Fictional human right”

    thats very stupid , people cant stop requesting shit like this, never gonna happen.

    Whats next? human rights for sex dolls and dildos? because they think are suffering?

    pd: sorry for my english.

  • What?! Fictional characters have human rights too? Fuck, we better go ban Oliver Twist for violent depictions of child neglect! (and for that matter, pretty much every other piece of classical literature)

  • Funny how this sounds very feminazi.

    Sure, let’s ban Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 because it depicted a woman in a helicopter getting shot down before getting blown up. Not that the controversial airport level was important enough to be focused on.

    Or arrest Michael Bay for killing that poor Valley girl by having her raped by her own car in the first Transformers.

    As a result of this ruling, I’m pretty sure there would soon be a wave of mysogynist literature popping up all over the net in rebellion. Fighting back by spreading more moral panic is so much fun, because it will prove for a fact in history that people are paranoid idiots.

  • I think everyone here is missing the point entirely.

    They are not saying that 2D characters have rights.

    I think that their main issue is with the principle of the thing, the fact that these sorts of things allow people to enjoy the concept of things such as rape and the defiling of women.
    They aren’t saying 2D women have rights, it’s more like ‘the concept of women in general should be treated with more respect’.

    Yes, I know the exact same argument could be applied to say ‘war/violent films allow people to glorify the act of slaughter’, and the problem there is that it’s true, and it’s accepted: people do glorify ‘war heroes’ all the time in western culture. It’s a problem of the standards of society.

    • It’s a give-and-take proposition. If they want respect from me, a guy, then they have to earn it. Same principle should apply with us guys in regards to women.

      However, the ‘feminazis’ have taken a good idea like gender equality and made it into a mockery of what it once was. It’s sad but inevitable when you get people drunk on their own success.

      • Groups like this say that gender equality should be a basic right, just like everyone on this site is claiming that freedom of choice and preference is a basic right of theirs.

        Tell me, have you done anything to earn your freedom to play rape games?

        • Yeah…. I never spit on the sidewalk, and was always polite to little old ladies. I saved kittens from burning buildings and stopped kids from being bullied by others.

          Long story short, I was a perfect gentlemen. My fantasies are my own, and no one else’s business.

  • Well, as an artist, I feel that all my creations are a part of me. In fact they are really an extension of myself. So yeah they have human rights, by which I mean I have human rights to make the fictional extensions of myself do whatever the hell I want.

  • Look man, until you “free speech” morons start taking their servers down and ruining their key individuals’ lives so they have something else to worry about other than going after foreign games, you’re not going to hear the end of it from these assholes.

    If they fail, they’ll try again. They’ll just keep on poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and poking and 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When that happens, what the hell is all your do-nothing “send-them-a-bunch-of-emails-that-can-be-deleted-by-a-simple-spam-filter” diplomacy going to amount to?

    Let me put this in simpler terms: You “otaku” type pro-free-speech activists are alone in this fight. Nobody cares about what you’re defending, nor do they want to help do so. The “real” sex-positive, pro-free-speech, feminists are do-nothing slugs that can’t even organize, much less put up a fight against the feminazis. This issue is way to obscure for even the ACLU or any other free speech organization to care, and even if wasn’t, they wouldn’t even go near supporting you because of the massive negative connotations associated with supporting “rape games”. You can’t possibly win through goody-goody conventional means. You have to get your hands DIRTY.

    The bullshit needs to stop, like, NOW. Even if a DDoS attack doesn’t put them completely out of commission, the initial shock will show present some DETERRENCE and make them have second thoughts when they think about trying to mess with us or Japan again. You need to stop seeing them as individuals capable of rational thought and start seeing them as a THREAT.

    http://711chan.org currently has the most active /i/ board on the internet–They might have enough anti-feminist users willing to provide some assistance. How about you pussy-ass masochists get some BALLS and actually start kicking some ass for once?

    • getting dirty? no problem here.
      i’m not afraid of anything.
      they want me to put me in jail just ’cause i fap to some hentai or loli-manga? then come and get me, i say! i’ll fight them till the maximum extent possible under the law, and under the logic-rational-rethoric debate options. and if that won’t work, i’d be glad to become a martyr for future hentai fappers!
      that’s all i have to say.

      • Then frankly, if the “free speech” otakus don’t have the balls to do something effective about it, then they should shut the hell up and live with it. Otherwise, get off your ass and return fire.

        I’m just as fucking tired of do-nothing conspiracy theorists lamenting about feminazis imposing on others’ rights as much as hearing the idiot feminazis lamenting a lack of intrusion on said rights. I’m sick and tired of this crap constantly being on the headlines and “fans” creating massive wave of pessimism without making any meaningful effort to actively quell it.

        Seriously, you honestly think the English-language eroge companies like JAST, who desperately rely on your sales, wouldn’t be second-guessed into self-censoring themselves if it weren’t for their “fans” constantly spewing doomsday scenarios and other paranoid crap?

        • But see this is the problem, they come here and whine on the article about how there rights are being taken away. Yet they wont do anything to stop it, they are all afraid of people thinking of them as perverts and sickos.

          Once they have finally grown some balls it will be too late because laws will have passed and no one will care about what they want.

  • F I C T I O N
    PLEASE LOOK IT UP OH FEMINAZIS

    Epic common sense fail
    Gee “feminists”, do you want gender equality or world domination?

    With that level of common sense its only friggin natural they told you to stay in the kitchen and make sandwich.

  • LOL! HahahahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh God this is hilarious, so ludicrous. But really, what in freak are they thinking? As far as people know it, it’s the people’s imagination that make the stories, character and setting. And they make what would happen in the story with that person. This is beyond stupid to think that they think that fictional women made by men and women artist who put them into sexual situations have rights! HA! They are just twisting it around, if they allowed fictional characters human rights, any sexual thought in our minds that people will express in art will be hindered and if attempted, might get arrested. Might be my ego, but this situation they started is so laughable.

  • Let’s push the logic a bit~

    If fictional characters gets rights:

    -Fighting games are all banned
    -RPGs should be banned too, as you are controling a character, possibly against his will.(which isn’t a far cry considering the bullthing already)
    -Pre-21st century litterature is banned
    -Many movies are banned
    -1984

  • Games where you rape = Banned

    Games where you kill = Wins awards and and becomes game of the etc.

    To stop these equality madness, there should be options for you to rape other men in eroge games to make those feminist fanatics shut their crap.

  • Fuck these disgusting people.

    If Japan listened to them Go Nagai never would have gotten past Hareuchi Gakuen…

    No Getter Robo, Cutey Honey, Abashiri Family or any other awesome thing he has done…FUCK EN!!!!!

    Can we petition to get politicians human rights revoked?

    They’re lizard brained creatures born without a spine or backbone as such they’re natural invertebrate fleshsacks.

  • … Here we go again…

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this is part of a industrial sabotage scheme by corporations elsewhere in the world.

    The deliberate use of such groups / means to create political / social chaos where the Japanese destroy themselves.

    Then again, what better way of sabotage through the use of groups such as EN or Sea Shepherd and its unthinking members which blindly follows “the right cause” and commit the acts which they do. If anything, the blame can be placed on them and the corporate backers / lobbyists can easily get their slippery hands out of it.

    TL;DR: It is not surprising if corporations uses such idiots to sabotage the relevant industries of other countries (Japan here) if they failed themselves. (The “If I can’t have it, neither will others” screwed up mentality)

    nvsds

  • HEY DON’T MAKE FUN OF MY STICK FIGURES I DREW

    IF YOU CRUMPLE THE SHEETS I DREW THEM ON AND THROW THEM IN THE TRASH, I WILL CHARGE YOU FOR MURDER AND HAVE YOUR ASS IN JAIL FOR 50 YEARS

    … only in the mind of Equality Now would this make any logical sense at all

  • when one of the 2d girls in my h-games jumps out of the screen and tells me she doesn’t like it then i will consider them having rights until then they have the right to be violated any which way anyone can come up with

  • solution… establish that all characters depicted are of a non-human alien species… they only appear to be human. As there is no collective understanding of Alien Rights… there can be no complaints of violating them… thus these people bitching will have to shut up

  • DefiantOne30 says:

    With all these continual barrages on giving 2D characters “rights”, as has been pointed out, these femenist groups show absolutely no proof that sexual crimes have increased instead of decreased in Japan.

    I believe that these so-called groups should start having to show what they are doing for real people(flesh and blood, not ink on paper). These groups say “we fight in every nation” but from what I see it’s all talk. I see them wasting everyones time on a subject they see as bad, but no proof it is causing actual bad acts.

    My word to these time-waster is show your work. Where’s your proof? Where are all these reports that show the official reports are wrong? I sure would like to see them.

    How many of you agree?

    • watch, if porn gets limited/banned you will definitely see a large increase in sexual crimes. It wont happen in the end though, the porn industries will get sick of being discriminated against and bombard all the governments till they tell the feminazis to fuck themselves and die, then overturn or block their advances. If this shit is allowed anywhere in the world, it will spread, and if it costs the porn industry money, you’ll probably see sanctions against them, then possibly assassinations. People seem to forget sometimes that the world moves on money, not ideals.

  • See.

    I think people need to start more riots, particularly the Japanese.

    Governments have to know that they can’t get away with doing shit like this. CITIZENS NEED TO BE MORE VIOLENT. It’s the only way to get these fuckheads to listen.

  • wow. so they can speak to these ficional women, get them to a stand, and let them speak for them selfs.

    they must have a means to talk to them, otherwise they are just talking bullshit

    but if they can meet them, please tell me how ;D

    • Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs, my man. It’s the only explanation which might make sense, other than mental instability…. in which case lots and lots of drugs must be used at any rate to alleviate the symptoms.

  • bahhh…this is all BS. Of course they have rights, be them real or fictional women. They all have rights. They have the right to be fapped to by me, and of course all of you good fellas on Sankaku =D

  • Marine-RX179 says:

    “sexual violence against women constitute a violation of the human rights of women, and are a major obstacle to the creation of a gender-equal society.”

    I got a better one:
    “psychological violence against men and wives confiscating all of husbands’ hard earned money (only give a small allowance that is barely enough for train fares and food in return) constitute a violation of the human rights of men, and are a major obstacle to the creation of a gender-equal society.”

  • Someone, anyone, please sacrifice yourself by satisfying the accumulated, supressed, sexual urges these feminists have and in doing so become a martyr, forever remembered and praised by our community!

  • So if I create a story and publish it without these things in mind, I can be jailed/sued/etc? I see that as an invasion of creative rights.

    C’mon, if you’re working on a form of media especially fiction, there’s no way you can hide these things and pretend they don’t exist, while in real life you know that they do. Other people who read your works sometimes know these things via fiction even if the depiction of it is somehow wrong.

  • The problem here is that nobody is willing to stand up to these retarded women, because it concerns peoples fetishes and perversions and ultimately people are embarassed. I think it’s about time we stand up and say “we like hentai and were proud” 😛 Go on protests with placards of girls being raped by tentacle monsters.

    Japan needs to defend its culture from these walking manbeasts.

  • I am shocked to see that no one here has realized the fact that nowhere in the quoted material are fictional characters said to have human rights which are being violated. The alleged violation is against the human rights of women as a gender.

    This controversy is nothing new, and is the main focus of a subset of feminism called “Anti-Pornography” feminism, whose main American proponents are Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin (dworkin probably spelled wrong, half on purpose.) The Wikipedia article on Anti-Porn feminism is a worthwhile read.

    While I do not for a minute agree with the views of the Gender Equality Bureau, the statements above in no way deserve description as “feminazism.” Actually, their point does have some basis in fact. When they speak of human rights violations, they are talking about the ways that pornography, especially rape/bondage/urination/etc porn degrades women. Can you honestly tell me that the hours spent enjoying films of women being thrown around and gangbanged has no effect on the way you view and interact with females?

    Having said that, censorship, for whatever reason is still censorship, and censorship is wrong. While I would normally consider the suggested “voluntary restraints” a reasonable compromise, Japan’s history with such mechanisms of control makes this virtually equivalent to legally mandated censorship, as seen in the way the Japanese media “voluntarily” refrains from criticism of the government.

    The solution is clear, a grassroots effort to educate society and foster equal respect for all genders. Approached properly, supply and demand will take care of the rest.

    • No there statement nor yours has any basis in fact. First off if you can’t distinguish between fictional women and Real women then you have a problem and should seek psychiatric help immediately. And no watching fictional women getting raped, urinated on and the such has no bearing once so ever as to how i interact with a real women. Why? because i can till the difference between fictional and Reality. I ask you this why do we watch stuff like this, and if you haven’t figured it out yet it is to escape reality and for entertainment.

      Secondly of course any kind of censorship is wrong, and completely goes against free speech. Given the Nature of Japan History with voluntary mandates you are right that its like a legal mandate, however this will only have the effect of pushing this underground, and we all know what happens to stuff that goes viral.

      Finally your idea of having a grassroots effort to educate gender rights is all well and good, but we do not live in a Utopian world. We are humans after all. And do you think that by simply educating people of gender equality if successful will decrease the demand for pornography, if anything it will increase. perhaps a bad caparison but this the one the poped into my head, what happened during Prohibiton here in the states? did it not increase the demand for alcohol. The same thing will happen if we were to completely ban Porn, its a bad correlation but you get where i am going with this or at least i hope you do. Also why should they be wasting their efforts on this kind of argument when there are real women who need help because they are being ganged raped on a daily basis, and the guys who are doing it have never seen a computer never mind watched or seen any of these images or games that we are discussing. Wouldn’t there these resources be better spent towards helping those women how need rather than perusing these idiosyncratic activities.

      And i could sum up most if not all that i have said with this.. Fictional women are all made up of zero and ones (or at least in this medium they are). Of for those who still read written manga then they are 2D they can’t talk they can’t think, they are Artificial creations, and therefore cannot be considered Human. To witch “Human rights” Are applied

      • “No there statement nor yours has any basis in fact. First off if you can’t distinguish between fictional women and Real women then you have a problem and should seek psychiatric help immediately.” The Gender Equality Bureau (GEB) and I are not the ones who cannot distinguish between real and virtual women, it’s the people in this comment thread, who can’t bring themselves to read critically enough to realize the GEB are talking about the degradation of women in general

        “And no watching fictional women getting raped, urinated on and the such has no bearing what [sic] so ever as to how i interact with a real women. Why? because i can till the difference between fictional and Reality. I ask you this why do we watch stuff like this, and if you haven’t figured it out yet it is to escape reality and for entertainment.” I highly doubt that your statements here are true, especially since later portions of this quote from you imply contradiction with the earlier. Think critically about your attitudes towards women, consider what assumptions you might make about a person simply because she is female. Do you ever make jokes about “those damn women” referencing tendencies of jealousness, pettiness or other stereotyped feminine traits? As far as you being able to discriminate between fiction and reality, and your desire to escape said reality, ask yourself where you are escaping to? You’re escaping to a world where you can rape women. A tenuous inference would be that you (collectively) dislike reality where you can’t rape the bejesus out of people and desire to escape to a world where every woman is your “resisting but not enough to kill your boner” plaything.

        Your point about prohibition is indeed a bad comparison, as that would only be relevant to the GEB’s ideas to directly (via law or Japanese “lets all not do this” BS) prohibit this kinds of material. What I’m talking about could be better compared to the anti-smoking campaigns in america in the 90’s and early 2000’s which lowered the smoking rate substantially. The grassroots effort I suggested would not directly deal with porn or rape porn, but just try to encourage people to respect women.

        Your summary again proves that you missed the point of my earlier comment NO ONE except the people commenting on this article thinks that virtual characters have human rights. The GEB says that REAL WOMEN have human rights, and these rights are being violated by the omnipresent depictions of women being raped and otherwise demeaned. If you really think this isn’t true, I encourage you to look at the studies which have been performed, proving that violent porn has no cathartic value but does have a negative impact on the interaction of consumers of that material with the subjects of it.

        • Normally, I’d say tl;dr, but I did r, so I dunno… tl;ria (read it anyways)?

          First, as is proper in a debate of sociology, I must declare my biases:
          1) I am anon. I am a horrible, unfeeling monster.
          2) I am atheist. I don’t believe women are inferior, whether due to some divine right/wrong or otherwise; they are a valuable section of the human species.
          3) I have made “women” jokes. I have also made “men” jokes. It is in the illustration of the stereotype that we find the absurd, and thus, humour. I have also made gay jokes, and poked fun at homophobics. Blacks and Brits are equal opportunity humour: whether you like your chicken fried or boiled to paste, doesn’t sway the jokes. I also make religious and non-religious jokes. Jokes are something I do. Saying “So I says to Mabel I says” does not perpetuate the gossip myth, it points out that women, in general, speak about interpersonal relations more than men and thus are better at it than men (Citation: An Ethics of Sexual Difference, by Irigaray [female mid-age French postmodernist] Good read, btw). Saying “Duhr, Imma watch FOOTBALL!!!! now. BEEER!” A la Simpsons is not discriminatory towards men, as it is an identifiable trait in that beer is predominantly marketed towards men and football is a popular pastime amongst them as well, in a simple juxtaposition with some incompentence (men seem a lot more lenient about this accusation than women: “Yup! I’m worthless! Hah!”) to market it to women makes it a mass appeal joke material to build off of. It is a joke. Lighten up. One comedian put it best “Why all the jokes about black guys liking fried chicken?” “BECAUSE WE DOOOOO!!!!”

          That out of the way, two logical flaws in your argument: The first, is sources. You provide none in the key argument in your story. I, however, can provide a source saying violent video games reduce violent youth crime rates. This can, in theory, be expanded as the psychological elements are similar:
          Sauce: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/02/28/violent-games-dont-cause-youth-violence-says-usc-sociologist

          And would you look at that, it’s even a female source supporting my point, if it matters to you (to some, it does, as they would accuse bias of “protecting the similar masses”).

          Second, raising awareness does not seriously hinder sales. In fact, with the smoking example, it is one of the worst things to do, as google can show you, smoking companies often pay to have smoking PSAs on TV. You know why? Because you can’t advertise smoking on TV. The removal of advertising for the product reduced the demand, not the addition of restrictions. Any publicity is good publicity. Rapelay’s download rates skyrocket each time it is shown in the news, despite them saying “Oooh, it’s bad”. Its torrents would have faded to nil by this time, gone and forgotten on megaupload and rapidshare, if people would stop bringing it up…

          Sometimes, ignoring a problem CAN make it go away.

          That said, as an Anon, I must be an unfeeling monster, so this is my obligation:
          Representative rights my ass! When people in a movie theatre get tried for crimes against humanity for watching a massacre and not intervening in a war film (even a historical one), THEN I will give you that argument. Can’t be just women. Representative of EVERYTHING: Lassie is a bad show, mean to dogs. Any violence is witness to a crime and not cooperating with police. Books that tell of mass slaughters, like say 5th grade history books, should be burned because they have violent depictions against humanity.

          There’s your representation: Either accept fiction is not representative of reality, or crash the internet, stop all movies and TV, burn every book ever written, and put all the storytellers in the gallows.

          It isn’t a false dichotomy. Your choices are three: 1) Admit you only want women to have rights and the rest of the natural and unnatural world can suck it, 2) Ban EVERYTHING. Thoughtcrime detection in progress. 3) Put out a few warnings, make it mandatory to put a “Surgeon’s General Warning” on Rape-simulators (many already have one: “Don’t do this in real life”), and accept that openly distributed porn, promiscuity, female sexuality, and womens rights ALL are positively correlated.

  • *Facepalm*

    And here gentlemen we see a new level of idiocy.
    -Protecting something that is not real doesn’t exist nor care if you do try to protect it.
    -Waste of time. More time could be spent on protecting ACTUAL women that is suffering around the world.
    -Doing something so they are hailed as heroes. In which in which actually are stupid cowards who fight for something that would have low potentiality of bringing harm to them. In the case of trying to save real women they scared they might get retaliation from angry husbands, employers, male dominated cult etc.
    -Funny they would go for imaginary creation instead of real porn. Just proves how pathetic these people are.

    These people are crazy and should be immediately put into mental institution. I bet they have lots of imaginary friends running around their organization.

  • LOL! HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my LIFE! So now we’re not going to have any more movies about rape, no more with violence or people getting murdered because it’ll violate their human rights??

    Because basically that’d be what it would encompass, first porn movies, then other movies where will it end? It won’t. But it won’t get started that’s for sure, because writer’s guilds for freedom of expression would be so pissed off it would start a chain of events that would probably end in 24 hours from starting. And writer’s guilds have a LOT more power than people think..

  • ChocolateCrinkles says:

    Oh these feminists. Seeing their faces on television makes me wonder why they do these things, I mean, with looks like that no wonder they don’t get laid.

    Real Women=Real Rights ∴ Fictional Women=Fictional Rights.

  • idiots. If they really want to solve some social problems. Look at slavery in sudan, human trafficing, child prostitution etc.

    Not some fictional shit. They wanna save humanity? They are DOING IT WRONG.

  • I’m so sick of this gender equality crap. Sure women diserve equal opportunities, but women are not equaly to men, men are masculine and women are feminine. Men and women are different in many, many ways.

    This is nothing but a petty attack on mens interests, probably because they had the naivety to date abusive men. I hope they all get brutally ass raped.

    • I hope they all get brutally ass raped.

      I’m not volunteering for that job, no matter how hard up I am.

      Pepper spray? No problem.
      Scratches and bruises? All part of the risk.
      But Genital frostbite? No, thank you.

  • I am so sick of all this complaining about sexism, women’s rights, eroge games, etc., whatever fits in the category. The fact is that all these things are not REAL. People that have a problem with these fictional materials need to see things from a different perspective. I swear the world is coming to an end. Complaining about the most non-important issues when there are WAY more serious matters happening as we speak.

  • Cool, I’m gonna go apply for a grant to protect fictional animal rights.
    Don’t hurt 2d whales!
    2d dolphins have rights too!
    First I’m going after Hanna Barbera for Tom and Jerry then Warner Brothers for the Road Runner and Coyote show.

  • Oh fictional women have rights. They can either take the dick, or they can be stars of guro H-manga! MWAHAHAHAHA! Mai-chan learned that the hard way…

    Seriously, though, this is just insulting. The women of South Africa have human rights. The women of “Let’s Rape 4” do not. This is, in fact, the only case where the all too frowned upon phrase “it doesn’t hurt anyone” can be used properly.

    …Or maybe the feminists believe that instead of being drawn on a piece of paper, the depicted women are actually from a another 2D realm on the other side of the pages/screen; a realm where women are immortally violated by faceless shadows with steel foot-longs.

  • censorship of the imagination…
    I imagine the stories that do not focus on rape will be censored as well.
    -if the character x hit a girl.
    -if the little girl was abused.
    -if the main character likes little girls.
    -if the main character is a pervert.
    -if there is bathing nude scenes or panty shots.
    -if there is any reference to sex.
    -if there is fetishes like domination or subjugation.
    -if there is a Tsundere, Kuudere or Yandere.
    The list goes on and on.

    The end of Manga, eroge and adult videos.

  • Sup with the animal rights of fictional rights?

    Ban motherfucking Pokemon I say, they catch and force poor animals to fight each other. Thats barbarian and violates this fictional animals rights.

  • SanCom Citizen says:

    Japan is a nation that is run and ruled by career politicans(old men). DPJ(Democratic Party of Japan) have proven that they are no different from the LDP(Liberal Democratic Party of Japan).

    DPJ and LDP is basically the equivalent of Democratic and Republican party back in America. These politicians are senile, greedy, old fools who care nothing but to boost their political prospects. And sadly, it comes at the cost of the people of Japan, and people around the world who are consumers of its culture or for that matter, disciples of freedom.

    Its really sad they are bowing down to, as Artifact mentioned, CEDAW, Equality NOW, the United Nations, and Agnes Chan. Its time for Japan to realize the urgency of protecting fabrics of its culture, more than ever. If the Femi-nazis, and Agnes have their ways, Japan, a unique sanctuary for disciples of freedom, would become another Australia or China.
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    ……FUCK you Equality Now, fuck you CEDAW, FUCK YOU Agnes Chan. and FUCK YOU to all haters of liberty!!

    AND come on Japanese otaku, grow some freakin’ balls!! Are you only going to rely on the mangaka, the voice actors/actresses, and intellectually minded manga/anime fans to do everything for you???
    That’s p-a-t-h-e-t-i-c!

    Stage protests, go outside your god damn rooms and march out to make your voices heard! Do that and you guys are heroes.

    If you Japanese otaku are still resistent to do this, us Gajin, or foreigners or whatever you call us will do it FOR YOU!

  • I think well-known anime characters like Naruto, Sakura, Haruhi, Ichigo, Gouku etc… have rights not to be abuse or used as a sex object with out the consent of they’re creator but unknown anime ones is a little bit lame.

  • The term “feminazi” has never been more appropriate than now. Much like how Hitler kept taking over more and more of Europe, these villains are attempting to take away more and more of our human rights, expecting us to simply fold like origami to their demands. Well, I say “Up yours, bitch!”. We, as rational and intelligent invidivuals, must come together and fight against this injustice. If need be, we will become the Churchill to their Hitler.

    • If only you could break the +1.0 quality barrier… That and my browser crashed trying to rate you up.

      Whatever happened to “I’ll drink what I drink, you can have yours as long as you don’t force your religious suggestion down my throat…”

      People these days have become too sensitive, too scared that what they see in fiction will happen in reality. Maybe these people don’t trust their society to be good natured? Have they succumbed to paranoia? (Now that I think of it, this sounds an awful like a motivation for the progression of a certain pre-world war faction… a purification…)

      Do we really need to resort to locking ourselves away in a cage of legalese and technological abomination when we just need to live our lives? Is there REALLY a major subset of humans out there that NEED this undue control over? (And who exactly are these people ‘protecting…’)

      If you want to let yourself be caged, fine. I’m not going to reward you for letting some distant person who doesn’t understand your situation subsume control over your own self. These convolutes have taken guilt and are trying to convince everyone that fictional wrongs are as bad (or even worse) than real wrongs. There’s a reason they’re trying so hard to convince you… because THEY’RE TRYING TO CHANGE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT’S RIGHT AND WHAT’S WRONG. But, sad to say, wasn’t this why we have our myriad existence of cultures? Of differing social norms?

      Don’t let other people tell you that what you do is wrong. There’s only ‘getting things done and learning how to do them right,’ stop wasting time on this nonsensical debate that only the scientists and philosophers can give proper treatment to. (Hell if I know if any run any countries or if they serve only as ammunition to be outmoded by irrationality)

      And if this world really is lacking of like-minded individuals, then maybe this isn’t a world I’d continue to live in.

      It seems, any nation governed by short-termed representatives is going to have recurring trouble on these lines. Is it a show of strength that a nation is allowed to time and time again ward off the encroachments of these extreme constrictive views? Or a weakness to know that next term’s reps are going to have to face the same appalling learning curve when there are MUCH MORE important issues to deal with.

      Hmmm…

      Perhaps these people suffer from some undefined kind of internet fatigue that alters the perception of boundaries between what ‘should be’ argued and ‘what shouldn’t be’ argued about… A certain kind of fatigue that they haven’t managed to adjust for/cope with correctly…

      You want a real fight? ACTA. It ‘claims’ to protect IP and copyright from abuse. It has been developed behind closed doors by the business-minded, the ‘haves.’ They also want to impose their view of the world upon everyone, force people into buying into their way of living. How cumbersome will it be for community sites like YouTube to continue operating? How big will internet service providers need to be in order to comply with maintaining the EIGHT years of datalogging they want? How limiting will our hardware and software choices be to comply with protecting content-holders’ rights? Are they going to be able to protect the little guy’s IP and copyright just like they would do with blockbuster movies and chart-topping songs? This is a serious affront to net neutrality, as it would enable unimpeded broadcast bandwidth to the big companies while the little individuals have to contend with emails challenging that their content is really ok to share. (The individuals that are represented by these big guys? They may already have waived their right to speak their perspective on copyright when they chose to sign their contract)

      A war of Copyright is being waged… Alot of the current world is built on Fair Use… Anyone that owns a computer, an iPod or mp3 player, or even a celphone will be affected. Remember, these people are only in it to protect their way of life, their outdated means of earning money and staying advertisingly superior – they only do what minimal they need to do to protect their users’ IP… much less protect the IP of someone they don’t represent or even of acknowledging the benefits (or even the definition) of Fair Use.

      In a way, everything the femmes want to ban, are conceivably protected by a variant of Fair Use. No one is getting hurt (save the egos of these deluded), and on the other hand we all see the artistic benefits (among others) entail. Not to mention, the culture itself (whether some may try to argue is disgusting, distasteful, whatever) is precious, treasured, and respected by an innumerable uncounted.

      What’s more beautiful to have, a world with a culture of people who can share and express their thoughts as freely and as creatively as we have seen, or a world dominated by the unrepresentative rules of distant foreigners (even ‘female’ are foreign in this context) who demand a recalibration of what WE feel to be beautiful?

      Reminding of this: Which world is going to hurt ‘everyone’ more? (Or can we throw this whole debate out on what’s ‘right’ for ‘everyone’ and finally, finally accept the concept of ‘[femmes,] live and let be?’)

  • Wow.. to think that i am a 2D lover who could separate fantasy from reality. They are far worse than me because they are having trouble finding out which is which..*amazed*
    otakus’ marrying 2D stuffz and feminist defending their rights? I think they have major problems..

  • Shiro_Amada says:

    When is this madness going to end?

    After the ban of loli material that went so far as to even ban certain porn because actresses had flat chests, and rape eroge because it’s “not ethic”, what can I expect next? To be prosecuted for murder because I killed someone in Battlefield, that’s what! Next thing you know, digital soldiers will have human rights, and PETA will be all over our arses because we skinned that wolf in World of Warcraft! Hell, we may even be jailed for blowing up those blocks in Tetris!

  • I knew this shit was going to end up happening, well might as well make everything illegal, including working since inami punches the main character often, violating his human rights. Whats that? You didn’t want to be drawn Ms. Izumi? BANNED

  • Eternal Lament says:

    Oh my god….
    *facepalm*

    Someone please get these feminists a dictionary or an anatomy book. Seriously wtf.

    HUMAN
    1. A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens.
    2. A person.