Microsoft: “No Web Browser on the Xbox 360!”

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Microsoft has ruled out any web browsing functionality for the Xbox 360, saying browsing on the TV is a “poor experience” and rubbishing the PS3 for offering it.

Quoth Aaron Greenberg, director of product management at Microsoft:

“No, we really believe that the web browsing experience on TV is a poor one, and the real magic is to take those web experiences and optimise them for the living room. That’s what we did with Netflix. So, sure, you can go on the PS3 and go to Facebook and and try to navigate, but it’s an absolute nightmare.

No disrespect, there’s things I love about the PS3, but that’s not one of them. We want the online experience to be fun and optimised for the living room, and we’ll continue to add more applications to get more richness.”

With Microsoft having already given the Xbox 360 limited compatibility with certain sites, such as Facebook, despite a “poor experience” on a TV screen, just whether this is a believable explanation is rather open to question.

It seems quite possible that Microsoft’s historical dislike for the open Internet is surfacing once again, and the company simply wishes to restrict users to selected sites, for reasons it would rather keep to itself.

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  • Anonymous says:

    I own a PS3 80GB Phat and a Xbox360 Arcade Modded+banned in order to play “cheap” games, or MS exclusive ones. Also a PSP 2000 GEN CFW that I use to play Project Diva and Disgaea 1, and a NDS Lite that I use to play VNDS.

    I would like to try a cheap Wii for some Nintendo and RPG games.

    I Have spent most of my free time playing Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles, and WipeOut Fury on the PS3. And I mean, 150 hours around per game.

    On the other hand, I have spend playing around 100 hours of Tales of Vesperia ENG on the 360, and 30 hours of NFS Shift. Obviously, I can’t connect online (nor will I PAY for a gold Live subscription, I am happy playing WipeOut Fury free @ PSN for that).

    Finally, I have spent 150 hours+++ playing Dragon’s Age on PC.

  • Anonymous says:

    Come on Microsoft, Poor “television” browsing experinced, I lol’d but seriously, I know a lot of folks who ethier play thier PS3 and use thier laptop/ desktop at the same time, or just simplied have their computer on another output channel on thier tv. But Sony does got them beat with that. Bad choice of words Bill Gates, bad choice.

  • Sandalphon says:

    I’m almost ashamed to say this, but the guys at MS are right here.

    Internet browsing on my PS3 is a novel experience, but frustrating compared to the experience of doing it in my computer.

    Internet browsing on the PS3 at the moment is there just to show that it can do it.

  • Whats funny as hell I put linux on mine and installed a browser so it’s not a technical reason.

    Though MS probably tried to port IE8 and used an X86 to PPC translation layer so they did not have to port every lib and could use standard flash vs flashlite or SWFdec which of course gave expected results.

  • The browser that comes with the PS3 does suck but you can install firefox on every version but the slim which is not a sucky browser.

    MS needs to allow third party apps on the 360 and stop trying to kill linux on the console.

  • Anonymous says:

    Most of the posts I’ve seen one this are one of:

    1. “Sony’s PS/3 browser sucks”, with the false implication that ALL console-based browsers must suck;

    2. “I don’t need/want a console-based web browser, therefore, you should not want one either”;

    3. “Buy a netbook if you want web browsing, ya damn cheapskate!”

    A console is nothing but a computer pretending to be stupid (limited by the manufacturer to perform only certain functions). My rebuttals:

    1. If a manufacturer made a decent web browser, then it wouldn’t suck.

    2. Just because a console-based web browser might be of no use/interest to you, doesn’t mean I don’t want one.

    3. I’m poor, and have to make most efficient use of my money. Fuck off, you (relatively) rich snob! I *am* a cheapskate, because I’m poor!

    As to Microsoft’s comment about poor web browsing experience on a TV, that depends on the TV and the web browser. Sure, it’ll look crappy on the 12-inch black-and-white TV I used with my Commodore VIC-20, but that went to Goodwill decades ago. Many people have either 20+” CRT televisions, or flat-panel TV/monitors which work just fine.

    And, bad software can make web browsing on ANY display “poor”.

    (Posting this from my used fat PS/3 – Ubuntu/XMB dual-boot system.)

  • Shippoyasha says:

    I would love a web browser option, so as long as people keep pestering MS for the option, then they will be forced to take that option seriously.

    That said, browsing online with the PS3 is a total disaster. The poor thing can’t handle all the pop-up ads and multimedia functions and the browser itself runs on pitifully small RAM. Even for the PS3, it could do better.

    • Yes they could do better as firefox on the PS3 actually does not suck.
      I blame the fact a complete moron is heading the PS3 product planning team.
      I don’t play much flash and SWFdec handles youtube etc.
      Removing linux from the slim was a moronic move as it kept a lot of would be hackers from becoming crackers.
      I’ll admit I cracked the shit out of my Wii and 360.
      I wanted a media center on the Wii and a better one on the Xbox and I did load firefox onto it.

  • Anonymous says:

    …who the fuck needs a web browser for a console? Everyone has a PC now, it’s in every household now. Try harder Sony dick sucker, try posting about shit that matters.

    You’re a douche.

  • Azure Xuchilbara says:

    Have you guys ever played any of Zone’s hentai flashes on a 50-inch, 1080p HD TV screen with the PS3..?

    It is awesome!!!

    You might also be interested to play some loli flash games with your PS3…

    It’s totally worth it…They look like they are actually right in front of you because of the TV size…

  • Anonymous says:

    Leave it to Microsoft, the innovators of half written software and updates to turn your computer into a expensive paper weigh to tell people whats good or not. More than likely they made that statement because they can’t figure out how to incorporate a good browse instead of the bastard child know as explorer.

  • Anonymous says:

    I personally find the PS3’s internet browser very useful. Sure, it isn’t the best internet browsing experience, but being able to quit my game for a few moments and look up some advice for a difficult boss battle (something I did often for Final Fantasy XIII) is very convenient.

  • Anonymous says:

    Mysterious Voice: “Yet another reason why the Xbox fails. Can they do no right?”

    But Mysterious Voice, Windows is a Microsoft function that allows the browsing of the internet, and that’s on a PC. Don’t you always say that PCs are the master race?

    Mysterious Voice: “Not with Windows.”

  • Its true, have you seen how shtty the ps3 browser is? ActiveX controls aside, you cant full screen flash you have to “zoom” it in. Not to mention no ad blocking software and other crap.
    Just chalk up the ‘web browsing’ on the ps3 another failed item that ppl who only own a ps3 try to use as a trump card over the x360. PS3 web browsing is about as useless as “HOME” and the XMB… dont fcking get me started on the Playstation store. Horrible confusing piece of trash…. I JUST WANT TO FIND DLC FOR VALKYRIA CHRONICLES! Not shtty music for rock band.

    And the ps3 keyboard interface is just ass horrible. It can’t even play HULU. The whole thing screams fail. And to that kid that had his “computer crash” and had no other way to access the internet is like a 1 in million chance of that happening. If you don’t have a smartphone or apple handheld by now, you’re probably not old enough to work and therefore your opinion is moot since you still live with your parents.

  • Anonymous says:

    Having web browser will likely be a waste of xbl development resources, as well as, memory resources on the 360 OS. It’s not so much the added functionality but at what cost. If they implemented a shitty browser people would just complain about that as well, but developing a specific web interface would be costly and wasteful if only a small minority of the users cared about the option.

  • Anonymous says:

    I will agree that web browsing on the TV sucks ass, but some people use it. I have a PS3, but I only bought it to play PS3 games. The fact that it is a DVD player, Blu-Ray player, web browser, and cheese grater are irrelevent to me. But I’m not everyone else, and some people use all those other functions. Microsoft is just being the typical cheap evil bastard company it is by ripping on other systems for having functions it doesn’t.

  • I have a better soulutin. Just make a fucking mouse for xbox!! Is there any fucking reason NOT to make an optional gadget – a mouse, available for Xbox users for better internet and 1st person shooter experiences? Oh, I forgot there is one: Fucking Retardness

  • Anonymous says:

    its fucking true. browsing the web on a TV is a fucking nightmare. Everything is so tiny and you have to stick ur face right up against the screen to see anything.

    Web pages are meant to be read at a distance of maybe 2 feet which is much closer than the average distance between a persons couch and TV.

    • Anonymous says:

      Browsing the web on PS3 isn’t terrible at all. When things are too small, you can press R3 and then zoom In & Out with the L2 and R2 buttons. I can read the screen fine even 6 feet away from my screen.

      It’s funny how the fanboys who are pissing all over an extra feature that one system has over the other have obviously not even tried it.

      Nobody is forcing use to use the feature, it’s nice that it’s there, All your arguments are moot.

  • another reason is that Microsoft is AMERICAN, and sony is JAPANESE, you have 2 totally differnt demographic.
    Americans are all about games, while asians in general want practicality and choice/selection. Thats why the PS3 sells WAY better than here in North America.

  • Anonymous says:

    They have a point. The PS3 browser tends to freeze quite often (or at least mine does) and it’s not as fast as a PC and even lack some basic functions. All that is overshadowed by the fact that this is Microsoft talking and they have to sell Windows and other PC related junk.

  • Anonymous says:

    The funny thing is that Im using the PS3 web browser to type this comment. USB keyboards and mouse work too. Micro$oft is just being lazy. Its the Wii that has a horrible browser,but at least they got one anyways .

  • gpturismo says:

    Well, as a company that keeps pushing new features onto their system to make it the application device for the whole family, what is the importance of browsing? Then you guys forget they of course have Twitter and Facebook as apps which the PS3 could do from day one. If they can devout that many resources to Twitter and Facebook functionality and announce it at huge expo’s as a ground breaking features that makes their device more family oriented, it makes this argument against browsing idiotic.

    Then you have to remember many families don’t have their computer (single or second) in their den/living room with their 40+ inch LCD. So this goes directly against their attempts to make the X360 more family friendly and the device for the entire family.

    Finally it was like with the PS3 vs Hulu, many PS3 owners were using their PS3’s to watch Hulu until Microsoft bought out Hulu and mysteriously said it didn’t work when it was nothing more than a tag in their code to disable the PS3’s browser. There are more people who don’t have a spare computer to attach to their tv’s and would like to have content, especially video on those big TV’s.

    This in the end is typical Microsoft business/marketing and they’ve been doing wish/wash like this since the early 90’s. There probably is another reason they won’t do it, even down to simple control of the system to even fear of exploits.

  • Anonymous says:

    The real reason why 360 doesn’t have a web browser is because M$ can’t make a decent web browser. They are probably waiting for IE9… or IE10.

    Project Natal will allow player to use body as the CONTROLLER. So we can replace the mouse with a finger, & both hands as the keyboard. There are nothing really missing except a decent web browser.

  • Anonymous says:

    I don’t have a 360, I don’t want a 360, I don’t like the 360.

    However, they’re right. Who buys a console for a web browser. And, seriously, how many people prefer browsing on a console to the PC? Not me, that’s for sure.

  • Anonymous says:

    It would be nice to have web browser capability (like, um I dunno, DREAMCAST!) but then again, it would be quite useless if you really think about it.

    PS3 needs crap like this so it justifies the reason that the thing has no games on it

  • I couldn’t agree with Microsoft more, and that’s rare in itself. Browsing the web on a PS3 is tits and chips, not to mention painful unless you’ve pulled the input peripherals from your desktop and plugged them in to assist.

    I’d rather browse the internet on a netbook with my cock.

    e: I was able to use my tablet as a mouse though. Surprisingly the PS3 supported a range of motions for such a peripheral on the UI. I don’t feel this was intentional, though.

  • Anonymous says:

    I have finally realized that sankakucomplex is nothing more than a farce site. You guys make shit up as you go along, and to hell with any kind of real information. You are also all proven Sony fanboys of the first degree. So where is your “news” about sony removing linux support in the PS3. I guess if you can’t lick sonys balls it’s not news worthy.

  • Anonymous says:

    I would be interested to see web browsing using your hand without touching the screen/mouse, ie. with that crappy Natal project. It could be like in this movie that I never watched and forgot its title.

    • TehBoringOne says:

      That’s only if your PS3 is in he living room…

      Some of us prefer to have the consoles in our rooms to avoid clashing with someone on the living room wanting to watch something… That, and the porn… =P

  • Its still convenient. If someone needs to use my computer, I can just hop on the PS3 and continue surfing the net.

    I agree computers should be used for serious applications and duty. But just plain old surfing the net is just as fun on the PS3.

    Hell I even used my Nintendo wii to search the web, so Microsoft can stick it.

  • Onanimous says:

    Jealous much, Microsoft?

    Let’s be frank, the browser on PS3 is pretty crude but it’s there for a quick surf. It’s very useful, as I don’t have to walk to my desktop or lug the laptop around. I’m already on the couch, in between gaming sessions.

    With a bunch of bookmarks, I quickly peruse my many-times-a-day favorite sites, including sankakucomplex, then go back to defeating evil, from the comfort of my couch.

    I’m thankful for the feature.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yeah, it’s not like the feature being there hurts or anything.

      Can use if you want/need, ignore if i you don’t like or you got a PC next to your ps3 or so (side-rant: bring back my linux support T_T)

      Microsoft almost make it sound like it’s evil or something. Integration of specific sites are nice, but that leaves tons of site we’ll never be able to use at all.

  • Anonymous says:

    I have only a PS3 and I think that the sony browser is pretty useless and slow to access while ingame.
    At least, Microsoft doesn’t remove features like Sony does.
    Hello, Yellowdog linux, hope the hackers put dicks in every PS3’s hole. ๐Ÿ™

  • Anonymous says:

    even if it is rather useless people looove just knowing they have the option, and that their product has all these features even if they don’t use half of them.

    but seriously, sometimes im playing a game and im like oh god i gotta walk alllll the way across the room to look at some naked ladies.

    • I agree…

      microsoft loves to justify that their “360” is better than the ps3 because of said things over the years…

      but really, microsofts history with the 360 hasnt been really good lately… with the XBL bans and all.

      to be honest, sony doesnt even label the ps3 as a gaming console, its a Entertainment console/machine. It can play games, surf the internet, and watch movies. what more do you expect? A free footrub?

      on the other hand, you have microsoft who loves to pick fights saying said things are unnecessary in a console… to be honest, i dont want to have a 3 disk FFXII, knowing that it was bought through pressure, not to mention the really really poor console construction, and the rrod.

      i own both consoles. and i really prefer the ps3 because of its functionality. Parents need to browse their email and your on the only computer? they can use the ps3. Simple things like that make it a strong selling point.

  • Anonymous says:

    Oh no! This sucks, cause I love the PS3 browser so much! Its my main internet browsing source! And I would LOOOOOVVVVEEEE to make the 360 my secondary source of “surfing the web!”

  • Anonymous says:

    its honestly not that big a deal, i have a 360 and a ps3

    I tend to play my 360 more as it has better games

    I never webrowse on my ps3 cause I have my computer lol…

    Tho if my 360 breaks again im not buying another one

    So it’s possible in future ill only have ps3 xD

  • Anonymous says:

    Microsoft has shown their hand again. They are in the works of making a “FaceBook” like webinterfaze that works with the Xbox360, I Can See It!.. maybe..

    So Facebooks will be come MS-Facebook and not in just China either…

  • I have both and can see where he’s coming from. Typically console browsers are crude but (semi) effective. It’s nowhere near using a desktop browser of your choice. On the other hand, it is handy to just have a browser onboard sometimes, even if it’s not the latest and greatest.

  • Anonymous says:

    โ€œNo, we really believe that the web browsing experience on TV is a poor one, and the real magic is to take those web experiences and optimise them for the living room. Thatโ€™s what we did with Netflix. So, sure, you can go on the PS3 and go to Facebook and and try to navigate, but itโ€™s an absolute nightmare.”

    They lose the opportunity to fix the internet browsing problems and the opportunity of win the sympathy of those who want internet in the tv. LAZY BASTARDS!

  • Nobody is looking at this from Microsoft’s point of view. They already tried this LONG time ago with MSNTV. Didn’t work out. So you must forgive them if they don’t want to experience the headache all over again

  • Anonymous says:

    Nah, he’s kind of right here. Web browsing on the PS3 is just horrible and second rate. I use my phone before bothering with that, even when I’m already on the PS3 at the time.

  • Tenshi_Sky says:

    Microsoft must really hate the internet. XD

    also, dissing sony and then saying “no disrespect” is like rubbing salt in their wound and then putting a band aid on it with “thereโ€™s things I love about the PS3”

    YAY Microsoft! *sarcasm*

  • AsakuraZero says:

    i dont even use the online aplications, the its a GAME console its made to play with it not to surf the internet.

    sure it comes handy to have many devices capable of getting on the interwebs but well that is my opinion

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re just sad you don’t own all three consoles. I don’t get why these poor fucktards go around claiming their console is the best, when they don’t even own all three. And if you don’t have the money to buy all the console in the first place and only buy one, you don’t have the right to criticize the other consoles cause you never spent long enough time with each of them to say shit. So stfu and go cry yourself to sleep with only your measly ability to own one console. Damn poor ass mofos.

        • Anonymous says:

          I own all three consoles
          Wii- never use, it is a great dust collector
          XBOX – It was the last one I bought and scared the shit out of me when I heard how loud it was for the first time. Pissed me off when I started getting nickled and 50 dollared for everything from memory to wireless connectivity. Mass Effect was cool tho.
          PS3 – My first system of this gen. It is awesome. Play Way more games on it, watch TONS of movies on it, used it for the net when my laptop was in the shop for 2 weeks and it worked fine… different but fine. It really is the best console imo.

        • Anonymous says:

          Haha, you’re just as sad as the others. Being elitist for owning 3 consoles (omg you must be god or something) is just another way to be a pawn in the “console wars”. Just another fanboy.

          I would understand if you would claim an elitist stance for being more skilled, more knowledgeable etc., but for owning 3 consoles?

          Sad.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t let the haters get to you, I agree, why do I need a DVD player, a web browser, and MP3 player, a phone, a dial up modem, an 8-track player, a built in coffee grinder and a toaster in my game console?

      It sucks the xbox isn’t ever going to get a web browser, but browsing the web on a console shouldn’t be a selling point, anyone who buys one console over another based on chincey peripherals like that is completely ignoring the core purpose of a game console.

      Hate the xbox because of its failure rate, or because microsoft is the devil, or hate the ps3 because it lacks any sort of decent online support or that it’s another one of sony’s “release it now, we’ll finish it later” projects.

      Not because they have a web browser or not.

    • Why?

      Would you really buy an Xbox so you can browse the web?

      I think they shouldn’t have taken it down, but I don’t think it really matters, if browsing the web is the “deciding” point between xbox or ps3 than the comparison is really shallow.

      If you have internet on said place you’ll probably also have a computer, if you’d rather browse through a video game (using a controller instead of a mouse) you’re pretty crazy ๐Ÿ˜

      • although an internet browser isnt much to most, people will automatically think the ps3 is a better bang for ya buck. im not saying it is or its not but the console wars is ultra tight (fanboys and all) and it seems like any little flaw would totally affect sales.

        on a personal note, i cant see why xbox cant install one just for the hell of it. the wii and the dsi even have one. its not rubbish when you need a quik fap or when you probably need to look up something. considering the fact we have to pay for there service every month, i dont see why an net browser is so hard to do.

      • @lilith when my computer crashed i couldn’t browse the web but I had my PS3 to browse online to check up on all my stuff. I’ve got friends and co-workers who went through 4 to 5 360’s. How is that for reliability when that has been out for about 4 years or so? As a former 360 owner microsoft can suck it on this one.

        • Anonymous says:

          I’ve had 2 dead PS3s and a 360 I intentionally killed so I could get a newer mobo.

          Dunno. Lots of PS3s failing, its actually gotten less reliable as the years go on. yay BDdrive failures!

      • savantique says:

        After my first computer bit the bullet, I bought a 360 with the money I could’ve spent on a PC instead. My incentive was to take up the opportunity to finally own one, and communicate with people on MSN while I was at it. A computer could’ve come later, especially since if I wanted to browse the web for whatever reason, I could still do that on another computer or my Wii.

        Speaking of, I was really glad I could surf the net around the clock via the Wii whereas I lacked that luxury when trying to use someone else’s PC. This was exactly the case that made me thrilled to be able to use Dreamcast’s browser software when I didn’t have my own computer then either. I didn’t really care that I had to use a controller, I was just happy to be able to look at the net whenever I wanted.

        • savantique says:

          I’m 26, my first computer was refurbished and I’m willing to bet that I kept it running for far longer than you have in the span of 5 years. The fact that you’re even getting upset over something so trivial and using it as an inference for my supposed age is pathetic.

        • Anonymous says:

          This is why I hate sankakucomplex, and the internet a large these days. I just heard someone say ‘after my first computer bit the bullet’. Those of us with pubic hair and more than 20 years of computer ownership would like to say get off my lawn and get off this site you underaged twat.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have to agree with this comment, although none can deny the browser on the wii is the best anyway, turn it on move precisely wherever you want so it’s still practical as well, but yeh I mean who the fuck would turn on their console just to browse, i’d only doing it conveniently on the wii, if i happened to be playing a game on it already like smash brothers brawl or mario kart wii.

      • TehBoringOne says:

        @Lilith

        Call me crazy, then.

        In my house, there is only one PC that we take turns at using, and I’m sure this is a common case in many places. Having a web browser in the PS3 is a good thing to fall back on when I want to search for some information, visit a forum or check email. Even downloading is more or less easy.

        I don’t consider it a selling point for the PS3, but it’s really nice to have the option to use it. I usually post from the PS3 here as well.

        I don’t know how often 360 users ask for such a feature, but I’m sure that adding it wouldn’t do anyone any harm.

        In my eyes, this guy is just taking a tough guy stance…

        • Anonymous says:

          After using the PS3’s web browser extensively, I can say that it sucks horribly. Using it for long periods of time or accessing certain sites causes the PS3 to freeze completely, forcing a manual shut-down. On top of that, the browser’s interface is terrible.

          But all that aside, does anyone really want a watered-down, shittier version of Internet Explorer (which is a terrible browser already) on their 360? Didn’t think so.

        • Anonymous says:

          You can’t buy a PC for the $100 you saved buying that Xbox 360 so you would still be left without a web browser. Also a PS3 slim is cheaper then a cheap PC unless you buy old used PC’s.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t think it’s shallow at all. Having Internet browsing functionality is a pretty big selling point. It’s one of the whole reasons the DSi exists versus the DSlite. Not to mention the fact that I used my PS3 to browse for a new computer when my old tower died. It really is worth it. All you have to do is plug in a mouse and keyboard through the front usb ports and browsing then becomes quite a bit easier than using the controller.

        • Anonymous says:

          Browsing on a console isn’t a selling point anymore. Everyone knows it’ll just be a cut down, horrible version of the internet.

          Just hook up a netbook to your TV if you need internet on the TV and you’re that fucking cheap.

          At least I could understand in the days of the Dreamcast, when it really was a badass novelty (and it had that sweet magnifying glass which was great for porn)

        • Anonymous says:

          I think what Lilith is say is he thinks it’s odd that the ‘Main’ reason you bought a game system is for the web browser with playing games as a secondary reason. (let me put on my ‘old’ hat) back in the day when you bought a game system it was for the games they offered, if you wanted Mario or Sonic. However going with what everyone else is saying, having the Internet can be a convening factor. after all I talked my mom into buying a saga Saturn for X-mas by telling her about the one that came with a 56k modem. now it’s standard to have web access on game systems. some don’t use it but it’s helpful to have it.

        • Anonymous says:

          @Anon 12:55: I know what you’re saying with the password thing. I couldn’t get on live with my 360 either because I was required to login on the schools web-authentication page.

          All you fags who are taking MS’s side here don’t realize how pathetic it is that MS can’t offer something as simple as a web browser. Sure its not the reason to buy a console but what piece of shit company overcharges you this bad for outdated tech like dvds and then piles on the add-ons for more ridiculous prices like with their wifi adapter for $100 and makes you pay for using their servers for online gaming when you can do it free on pc and the ps3(…Oh wait. Lulz, Hi Microsoft). They’re just making excuses to withhold more services from you idiots to cut cost and just take in more money on online sales. You guys complain about ps3 cutting linux but can anyone on here who uses their ps3 for linux tell me what the fuck they do on it? It can only use some distros and what I’ve seen is that they’re very limited in their features. The ps3 doesn’t need linux more than the 360 doesn’t need a browser for people who actually go to college and can’t do anything on their system because it needs an update they can’t get.

          The people behind the 360 are greedy pricks (More so than companies like Sony, who have lost money on manufacturing costs trying to give you something not half-assed like the 360) who could care less about making the consumer happy and I should know because I own one that I hardly play anymore. 360 only has three overrated franchises worth noting and that’s Halo, Gears of War, and Mass Effect (The rest are all 3rd party multi-system or games that should’ve gotten more attention like Lost Odyssey). Halo 3 was laughable and a mistake to buy on my part. ODST was better but there are definitely better FPSs out there. If it comes to buying any game that’s only on PC and 360 I’ll either buy it on PC or not at all. I can at least play online on my PC. I own the wii, 360, ps3, and a capable PC but only the latter 2 have been getting use. I’ve never once regretted buying either but what to do with the former 2, which are basically paperweights. btw this is all coming from a person who’s on his first 360 and has never had issues with live while he was on it. I’d probably give the 360 to some needy kids if it weren’t a useless piece of shit that I still have digital content on. Ahh that reminds me…why did MS leave behind all of us loyal customers who filled up their pitiful 20GB model(bought it early :)) with digital content and didn’t quite feel like paying 100+ dollar for a new drive? Couldn’t they do something less douchey and make the hard drive swappable with actual affordable drives(120GB for $100?…thanks pricks) and possibly solid state drives? What more evidence do you need that they look at you as $299(or whatever you pay to get fucked these days)? All this noise about thinking blu ray will lose out to digital content, but they can’t even give you sufficient space for this content. You all just suck it up and buy a new 120GB or 250GB MS drive and when thats full buy another. Pardon me. I was out of line by saying MS doesn’t care about your space issues. They only chose to release a watered down FFXIII on 3 DVDs (not directly chose,but they sure didn’t argue). ps3 fixed Bayonetta’s issues on their own so what’s MS’s excuse? They have no problem throwing money at DLC that you’ll pay money to them for but it requires some care that they don’t have to take some initiative and possibly negotiate with Square Enix about fixing their shit. Have fun playing with your dos-boxes.

        • ChaosAngelZero says:

          I have it the SPUs of the Cell Broadband Engine aren’t taxed with processing “Other OS”s when you’re playing a game since, you know, you haven’t booted the other OS.

          @Anon 02:21: I wonder if the PS3’s browser can access the whole of RSX’s processing power? If that’s the case, then there’s a chance the PS3 can properly playback 720p streaming video like that of YouTube, but if it doesn’t (as was the case with all “Other OS”s), then I highly doubt its meager 256 MB of RAM can put up with it.

          In any case, as for browsing the Internet, I don’t see how that could be a bad thing using a 720p display with the appropriate connection (in the PS3’s case, either component video or HDMI), and a 1080p one would be just awesome. I mean, I generally have no problems browsing at just 1024ร—768, and supposedly you can attach a USB keyboard and mouse to the PS3 too, so…

        • Anonymous says:

          They took it out to free up some of the cells in their processor for stuff like 3D. What they do is designate certain cells on their cell processor for certain tasks. Besides that, the linux was ok if you could find the right distro but even then it had no access to the gpu and so it wasn’t good for a lot of things you might normally do on an OS like ubuntu (who’s powerpc distro of ubuntu sucked ass so I stuck to the distro that was specifically designed for ps3 and that I eventually gave up on too)…aside from that…I doubt any of the people who say this isn’t a big deal for MS to not have have ever been unable to do online gaming because a university didn’t allow routers as was the case at the New Mexico Tech dorms and/or required a password to login to their network. You need any sort of browser to be able to get online at a lot of schools, notably the two universities I attended.

        • Anonymous says:

          Ya, I mean, it isn’t like MS is taking out a highly advertised feature like being able to offer a secondary OS install or anything integral to peoples buying experiences like that.

          I mean, a really shitty company would sell you a 500$ piece of hardware with the functionality blazoned across the side of the box then later remove it without any good reasoning simply because they are unable to cope…

          …Oh wait. Lulz, Hi Sony.

        • Anonymous says:

          if only the ps3 will update their flash! Man the video sucks like crap. No 720p on youtube or the likes. It can be easily solved by making a firmware update for their flash player (strike a new deal with adobe)