A judge has said he “sympathised” with the father he found guilty of murdering his 16-year-old daughter’s unemployed boyfriend, handing him an exceptionally light 8 year sentence after the prosecution asked for 12.
The case began with a 38-year-old unemployed Kumamoto prefecture man dating a 16-year-old girl he met on a “deai-kei” BBS.
The father of the girl found out about this, and had the man to meet him at his home. An argument ensued, and the father took a kitchen knife he happened to have to hand and stabbed his daughter’s boyfriend three times in the gut, killing him.
The father soon faced murder charges, which he denied, saying “in the end he may have died, but I had no intention of killing him.”
The prosecution argued the murder was a clear and unjustifiable act of homicide, saying “this was a vicious crime in which the accused took a deadly kitchen knife and very deliberately and repeatedly stabbed a man in the abdomen with clear intent to kill,” and asked for a 12 year sentence.
Meanwhile the defence apparently took the position that the victim was at fault for being the path of the blade in what was an “act of excessive self-defence”: “There was a scuffle and in the heat of self-defence he happened to thrust out the knife.”
This version of events is backed up by the exceedingly light sentence they requested – 3 years in prison and a 5 year suspended sentence.
The judge conceded that the father deliberately murdered his daughter’s boyfriend, but expressed sympathy for the killer and ordered a reduced sentence:
“I can understand your parental desire to stop this relationship. There is much about which we can sympathise in this case, and a sentence of over 10 years is certainly excessive.”
In the end the defendant was ordered to serve 8 years for the murder.
The defence still plans to take the verdict to a court of appeal.
The case is the first of its kind in Kumamoto to use the lay judge system (a quasi-jury); one of the lay judges in fact comments that “I have a daughter the same age, so there is certainly some overlap,” fuelling the suspicion of some that the case was judged by the equivalent of a panel of over-protective fathers.
Leaving aside the issue of what many have condemned as a light sentence for a crime which can never be justified, some have pondered what it says about the father that he raised his daughter to date such a man and then decided to kill him.
Still others have wondered whether the murderer might have gotten off completely had it been the mother at fault.
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ah yes this will probably leave a scar on the girls personality towards any man now.Great way of dealing with things father she will probably forever have problems to be with a man and will maybe end up alone for the rest of her life.
With the cellphones and open prostitution Japan is doing it seems the little 'anti loli' items on the table this month are not even the tip of the iceberg. Did the girls father ever us those dating cellphone websites to pick up very young girls as well? I would 'want' to kill any one ten years older than my daughter as well if they were doing her. Doesn't mean I would.
This guy was old enough to be her father and then some. Japan is different I don't know what a Japan prison is like but still to kill someone who isn't in the process of killing you that seems like a very light sentence.
This could be one the contributions to Japan's falling birthrate. Old men preying on young girls, young girls trying to be mature that's why they don't date boys around their age (the young generation suppose to be the future for Japan. How can they create a new generation when the girls of the young generation are with old men who are old enough to be their father? Those old men don't really love you, you idiots. Its just lust.), arranged marriages, NEETs, otaku extremists, prostitution, schools and companies controlling everyone's personal life, suicides. Shit, it feels like there will be no more Japan in 100 years.
Impressive, so the next time a Mother In-Law finds out that her son's fiancee is not her type, she can easily take a knife, bury it on the fiancee's gut and simply say she's defending herself?
On the day of the murder happened, this father found out his daughter meeting that man again, even though he had already asked the man to break up with her. And there was an argument bitween them, it got pretty tense so father took him to police to persuade him. That was 4 hours ago the murder.
But shortly after they went back home, argument occured and the murder happened.
I remember the tv news saying this victim was once married, had children but devorced, and unemployed.
So, judge may feel the sympathy.
The irony is that whilst the father is away in prison, the daughter will likely find another boyfriend.
when it comes to kids i take this stance.ITS THERE HOLES/APPENDAGES THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEM. i honestly wouldnt care.
i have no sympathysing for this father who killed a man.If it was illegal or something then he could deal it with the police.If it's not illegal then his jealousy is showing that a 38y man was capable of getting his girl and not some younger guy what he probably expected more.
Do you know getting a girl requires to have something that a girl will like you.
He was capable of getting her at the legal age of consent,you see others were imcapable.
The father should be punished much more harsher.
That's just stupid.
Jealousy? How the hell does jealousy come into the picture. It's his daughter, a father wants what's best for his daughter. A 16yo may be legal, but it's still a kid in puberty.
Even if the boyfriend didn't do anything wrong by law, that doesn't mean the father has to sit idly by and do nothing while in his eyes his kid is in trouble.
What if the boyfriend was right age but a drug addict, or a homeless guy, or a muslim telling the girl to wear a burqa, or a convicted sex offender, then it would still legally be the same situation.
It would also be the same situation if her boyfriend was a perfectly normal guy, rock star, a 90yo geezer, a girl, a transman, etc...
It's quite possible to feel jealousy for a family member. "Jealousy" is the fear of loosing something to a 3rd party. It's not unusual (or rare) for parents to be jealous when a child enters a relationship.
It's no different from when a child feels jealousy over a younger sibling. You get less and less attention, and you can see that someone else is taking that place.
nothing but excuses,16 is not a child anymore and the age of consent is legal.
And women don't change when they are 18 and on in relationships if you know a little more why they like men mostly.
Puberty is there with a meaning at 16 it is already ok to be together with him.She choose him also.Guess the father went crazy when he learned the true nature of what women like about men and how she was with him(sex will be a small part,but also a very important one which was maybe the part that he was killed).
Father killed him because he wasn't prepared to see the true nature of his little girl and how all women are when a woman finds a man that is attractive to her for several reasons.
More like jealousy of a man with authoirthy because of his age.
"I may have stabbed him repeatedly in a vital area with a large kitchen knife, but I had no intention to kill him"
I know Hanamaru Youchien is a lie now. Thanks so much for having our hopes up.
Boys who don't like to visit their girlfriends parents did a big point here.
I await for the day for most of the people who abhor the father's actions to one day become fathers themselves(as unlikely as this may be).
While we scoff at parents who are unable to take care of their children, my parents were unable to deal with my generation because they simply couldn't transition towards the digital age, and I personally feel for them because of the difficulties they must have had trying to understand why I was addicted to the net. It's not easy, and it's becoming increasingly difficult.
And if I steal from someone who left their door open, am I any more or less morally wrong? Manipulating minors is an easy task, doesn't make it right.
We are not talking about children here. An 16 years old human has already developed an adult level intelligence.
The law's definition of "minor" is very arbitrary and has no scientific grounds to back it up. I am not inclined to believe that someone is far more resistant to manipulation on his/her 18th birthday than the day before.
There is very subtle difference in intelligence between the two age groups and next to no difference in experience.
The girl is not slaying dragons. It's just a relationship. Even if she were to go ahead and get pregnant, she can always have an abort. Now if she gets pregnant and decides to carry the child, that would be a poor decision. But then again, if she is that stupid, I doubt 2 or 4 or even 10 years are going to make a difference.
I hope you don't get to be in the same situation. Not only will you ruin your life, but you will also scar your daughter for life (not to mention deny someone else their life). I can only imagine how difficult it would be for the girl to form another relationship after something like this.
Instead of putting yourself in the father's shoes, try picturing yourself in hers. Maybe the different perspective will give you something to think about.
Actuakky, according to science, we don't fully develop our brains until we're 25. That would explain the masses of idiotic tweens.
As an 18-year old teenager, and looking and my lapses in judgement when I consider myself a fairly mature and balanced individual I would say that no, a 16 year-old HASN'T developed "an adult level intelligence" and I kind of symmpathise with the dad also.
A murderer gets 8 years while a loli gets 20. BULL! FUCKING! SHIT!
In Japan, nobody would get as much as a second look from the law enforcement for possession of loli. That 20 year sentance was handed by a US moralfag.
Neat. l:
And this is why the law is not true justice.....
He killed someone he should be thrown away for life
no there is nothing to sympathise with you conservative fuck
"The father soon faced murder charges, which he denied, saying “in the end he may have died, but I had no intention of killing him.” <--- Oh man, cuz three stabs in the gut was totally something you expect everyone to survive. "RAAAAH! *STAB* ...Oh my god I think one stab is en-*STABSTAB*MY ARM MOVES ON ITS OWN! D: D: *STABSTABSTABSTAB*"
Man, Japanese legal system is.... Different.
damn fo.
u dont need to kill hes ass
its nuf if u just woop his ass for good.
He did the right thing.
though the right thing is not always the good thing
Moral fags are a blight on the US.
They also are often extremely raciest and responsible most of the lame duck drug laws.
The so called war on drugs has cause prisons to be over crowded with non violent offenders and forced the early release of dangerous criminals who need to stay locked up until reformed.
The laws on marijuana for example where made by raciest groups and the cotton industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States
If I had my way every moral fag in the US would be shipped to an island and that island can be the holiest country on earth until it gets a colony or nuke dropped on it.
The fact that the boyfriend willingly met with the father says a lot. He knowingly went into a dangerous situation because of this girl. It's only natural to assume he went to plead his case to the girl's father. This shows that he at least had has some decency. Sadly, there is no one to tell his side of the story now and a murderer gets off with a light sentence.
Also if the father thought dating a 38 year old loser was bad for his daughter; he should have thought about her grow up with a dad in jail... and which would be worse. Finally, you don't "accidentally" stab someone THREE times.
[Citation needed]
Even Artefact mentioned that he didn't have the full story somewhere above. If you have a better source, do bring it forth.
The victim was not so truly in love with the daughter. He demanded money to 16 year old girl and even took some of her naked picture and blackmailed her. (this was said in the japanese local TV news)
And he beated her grandfather(murderer's dad), before the father grabbed the knife and stabbed him.
Maybe the father should have educated his daufhter not to use "deaikei BBS", and it's excessive self-difence to stab three times. But understandable somehow.
If that's the case this may not even carried much of a sentence at all in the US.
He'd might have gotten off on temporary insanity.
It may even be considered a defense of life and property case which would carry no criminal sentence at all in most states in the US.
In that case the judge and jury probably did the best they could within the laws Japan has on the subject since they supposedly don't have high rates of assault and thus not many DLP cases.
well ass hole boy frand need to die if i was a father i wold make sure my daughter wold never date guys like that Evan if it is to kill the fucker
i concur with the judge.... no... the father should demanded the unemployed faggot family with charges of pedophilia and killed the sexual predator
lmao victims fault for being in path of the blade
all people that are shot and killed at are fault for being in path of the bullet!
It seems so. From now on I start training bullet-time with live ammo.
;-D
What's with Japan and these light sentences for things like murder and rape?
I'd consider this a third degree murder in the US or second in other countries such as Canada which usually carries a sentence of 8 to 16 years minimum with a max of 20 to 40 depending on how heinous it was and their behavior in prison.
It seems Japanese Judges have lost their balls or we simply do not know the whole story.
But considering the earlier story of the couple who baked their little boy I say the former.
I would have thrown the book at those two.
Of course if said boyfriend was assaulting said daughter then even in the US they'd go easy on him or at least he could use temporary insanity as a defense.
Oddly enough if someone breaks into your home in most states in the US you can kill them if you catch them in the act.
Your also allowed to use deadly force if rape is involved this would be a defense of life and property situation.
This is a light sentence? You've obviously never been to prison.
The purpouse of prison is to keep society safer, not to suck up funds. I'm fairly sure that after serving his sentence, that father would be very reluctant to go back in. Reluctant enough to control his temper.
And this is the point. He is not sent to prison for revenge or to be made example of. He is sent there to keep him from killing other people in blind rage. The message is clear: if you kill without a very good reason, your life is over. When that guy comes out, he will be 50, he will be hopelessly out of touch with technology, without a job or property, and he will be unable to retire at the proper age. Not to mention that his family (or at least his daughter) will have a very cold attitude towards him at best.
Even without a prison sentence, this is a pretty grim fate.
Sakujo...
Prosecution asking for 12 years? WTF is a NEET's life only worth 12 years?
”Prosecution asking for 12 years? WTF is a NEET's life only worth 12 years?” Much less. Think lower. . .
The judge and jury were not impartial..... they should've been able to see the case from more than just the protective father position.
That, and a person was murdered..... premeditated, if that handy kitchen knife is anything to go by.
The case should be retried.... and a heavier sentence given. Sympathetic or not, the father did intend to kill that NEET.
You must have been on the jury to know all that stuff.
Right?
Read the article over.
People assume a Hell of a lot from "unemployed."
Here! Here! The guy might had just lost his job recently and was looking for another, or quit to start his own business. Or had money in the bank and didn't need to work. It doesn't mean he was a worthless.
As about age. Well you people cry moralfags and conservatives to others about loli manga and staff you like but in other matters you are the same fags as them. Yeah he was older but if she was happy and he was good to her who the fuck are you to judge? She can date who ever the fuck she wants. Her dad is free to not approve and give his opinion but he has no right to use violence against him.
Since when does it involve a right? More like the ability to literally stab the shit out of you. It's a give or take situation. blood for blood, obviously you deflower my child whom I am silly enough to still believe she's a virgin. And each of those droplets of blood equate to about a gallon of blood each from you.
One person can't help the fact that the other dumbfuck decided to chase around his "what I consider" underage daughter, AND on top of it all, ignorant enough to chase after the light at the end of the fuckin tunnel..
NO YOU"RE SUPPOSE TO RUN AWAY FROM IT YA FUCK, YOU"RE GONNA GET ME CONVICTED@!!
I imagined this scenario having taken place.
Father: "Please take a seat."
*STABBITY STAB STAB*
Join us next time for more on 'To Murder a Predator' only on Dateline NBC.
"I imagined this scenario having taken place.
Father: "Please take a seat."
*STABBITY STAB STAB*"
BANG BANG BANGITTY BANG I SAID AH BANG BANG BANGITTY BANG!
Yeah, not funny in the slightest, and this man was NOWHERE NEAR being a 'predator' (which is just a bullshit designation made up by people who hate pedosexuals) in the slightest.
Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it's a fetish.
It is also morally unjustifiable, since people who have not yet reached puberty are not mentally or physically ready to have sex and cannot understand all of the ramifications.
they can understand it more then you know and this isn't pedophilia
"Pedophilia" is attraction to girls/boys who are bellow the age of puberty. Anything above 13 it is healthy sexual attraction, even if not socially acceptable.
Of course, that's ignoring the legal systems in some overly moralistic countries who would brand any relation bellow and above 18 "pehophilia", even if the subjects in question have less than 1 month difference in age.
newsflash!! pedophilia doesn't even apply here. SHE WAS LEGAL! even in many parts of the US she would be legal.
16 year old is pass puberty or reached it at least.
In fact, most so called "pedophiles" charged have been seeing girls 12 or older which is clearly the age of puberty.
We're talking about the same article, right?
You do realize the girl was 16, right? You do realize puberty usually starts at around 12-13, right? You do realize than age of majority and age of consent above the physical maturity threshhold is arbitrary bs, right?