Banning Loli Brides “Bad for Society”

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The latest case of Arab child sex slavery, that of a 12-year-old girl sold to an 80-year-old man for $23,000, has led to renewed criticism of Saudi Arabia’s fundamentalist regime, but a Saudi ministry dismisses the notion that a ban is required, saying that it would be detrimental to society.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Teraifi, an official with Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, stresses that banning child marriage would be damaging, as it would result in girls being forced into the hijab at a later age, potentially allowing them to mix with unrelated men in a sinful manner:

“Outlawing the marriage of young girls to elderly men will have a negative effect on Saudi society as it will lead to mixing of the sexes which is impermissible in Islam.”

A series of internationally publicised “marriages” of girls as young as 8 being sold to (frequently elderly) men has seen international pressure mount on the kingdom to do something.

Even within a barbarous medieval kingdom like Saudi Arabia, calls for laws against child marriage are growing. The official warns these domestic calls for restraint are mere mass media froth:

“Much of the public discussion of the issue is based upon a few reports that have appeared in newspapers, which is insufficient reason to start campaigns to restrict such marriages.”

Saudi law is based on medieval Sharia Islamic codes, which set no lower age limit on marriage and allow marital practices considered abhorrent in the developed world.

No less a figure than Mohammed himself is said to have married a 6-year-old, though he graciously waited until she was 9 before consummating the marriage.

The ministry official affirms this, saying men should only have sex with pubescent girls:

“Age has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage contract, but consummation of marriage should be only when the bride reaches the age of puberty.”

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  • Next time I’m caught kidnapping and having my way with a loli I’ll say I was preventing intermingling of the sexes. Oh wait, that only counts if the holy institution of marriage is involved. lol religion.

    • no real difference between them, religious run governments just use religion as an excuse, the rest find other ways to justify the shit they do. each are just as bogus as the others. *cough* australia banning small breasts in porn *cough* *cough* attempting to ban loli manga cause the rights of 2D people supercede the rights of real people *cough*

  • Barbarian of Gor says:

    Prophet say; “Old enough to bleed is old enough to breed!”

    Actually, he didn’t say that. Someone else did.

    bwahahahaha!!!!

    —–

    Here’s a joke in the Arab world; Q. “How do you make your new wife cry thrice?” A. “Wipe yer shitty, bloody dick off on her teddy bear!”

    Actually, I make that up, too! In RL they first take teddy bear and rip of it’s head! It “Idolatry”!!! They are very against any “Immorality!”

    Me vely much in humor, yes?

    ——————–

    Congratulations to Saudi Arabia for resisting that part of AmeriKKKan and Western KKKulture.

    Enough with this stupid “Enshrinement of Children” where right until they turn well past adulthood they are “Innocent Children”. Where going to bed with a 17 years and 360 days girl you might as well be ballin’ babies in their cribs… Where teenagers “Sexting” themselves become both ‘innocent victim’ and are ‘tried as adult child pornographers’. Where kids playing doctor become a “Sex Ring”. Where “Thought Crime” becomes real crime with comic books.

    Believe it or not, the Prophet Mohammad actually set the bar for “Higher” and “More Moral” in that department. Don’t want to get into it again here, but plenty of openly practiced infinitely worse examples at the time. He set the bar at 6 and 9 and that’s their law and they at least got balls not to mess with it just cause some bible bangers and “Modern women who seek to destroy men” from a soon to be ex-‘first world’ KKKuntry whine “Think of the Children!” as they send pedarist priests on “Missionary Work” to try to destroy all but their KKKulture.

  • Bronxdragon says:

    Bad for society? Dude have you not been paying attention to whats going on in the world lately. Why don’t these morons worry about things that actually matter. Besides you take away a mans favorite porn prepare to get your ass kicked across the effin globe.

    • Um I hate to say this and will proberbly get flamed but the age of sexual consent in vaticant city (the centre of the most powerful branch of the most powerful religion in the world) was 12 up until a year ago

  • “OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!”

    What a surprise, another pedophile on Sankaku trying to justify his urges.

    Puberty is a process, just starting puberty doesn’t make you ready to give birth. Deaths are a lot more prevelant with children.

    “Whichever way you look at it, “childhood” is a relatively modern invention that was made possible by the Industrial Revolution – before then, children were usually just treated as small adults. It was the Victorians who developed childhood into what it is today in the West, shrouding it in mawkish sentimentality and idolizing the “innocence” of children. Whilst at the same time still visiting the child brothels that were commonplace in London and other cities.”

    So what are you saying, children should be given the freedom to work in brothels? The reason why we now give children a child hood, is because we have become civilised. We don’t force girls into marriage against their will and we give them the time to think about who they are going to marry. Your a monster if you think children should be forced into the reality of the adult world so fast.

    I have seen interviews with these girls, who have been married young and they say that they want to finish their studies. They have been forced to grow up fast by entering marriage and all say they would have commited SUICIDE, if they had to continue that life.

    • Oh yes we all forgot how utterly marvelous freedom is. 60% of adults aged 18-24 in the US have some form of STD. Yes clearly feminism has benefited US society. Women are subservient by nature. What Saudi Arabia is doing is in accordance with natural law.

      Also women given to much freedom is a bad thing. Women are retarded and will pick the worst possible mate.The decision should be left up to the father.

      Also seriously people.Rights dont exist.they’re fucking made up. If alien overlords show up tomorrow we’re all goanna be slaves.

      • I agree on most things… also, the spread of STDs is only a small part of all the problems that feminism has brought.

        On the last part… moralists don’t understand this. They think they are right, others are wrong. They might justify this with logical fallacies (e.g. everyone says so, it has to be right), for they aren’t intelligent or wise enough to realize they are wrong. They would be closer to the truth if they simply accepted that there is no right or wrong.

  • Azure Xuchilbara says:

    We need to turn all of these old men in Islam into otakus so they will truly be blessed…

    *shakes fist in the air*

    And maybe turn the lolis they are married into otakus as well!!!

  • “Much of the public discussion of the issue is based upon a few reports that have appeared in newspapers, which is insufficient reason to start campaigns to restrict such marriages.”

    Wow, some of these people are smarter than the idiots in britain and america.

  • Interesting, very interesting, a very bad society is admitting their actions are very bad for society. Time to turn over a new leaf and drop the stone age behavior. And wash your dang clothes for a change. eeeeewwwwww.

  • So America how about dat Woody Allen? Hmmm Rich old man who then marries a girl so much younger.

    Gasp! think of the outrage! oh wait, you guys didn’t do shit about that either (they can’t get married? adoption!).

    The world is filled with fucked up old men who use their money/influence to get what they want.

  • “Outlawing the marriage of young girls to elderly men will have a negative effect on Saudi society as it will lead to mixing of the sexes which is impermissible in Islam.””

    Wait… HUH? Girls and boys are SUPPOSED to mix you fucking towel heads.

    If this 12 year old girl’s 80 year old husband dies can she remarry – NO. Because no man would want “USED GOODS” and thus she’ll forever for the rest of her life be a “USED WIDOW” unable to get a job or have property or own her own life.

    Islam prevents women from owning property or remarrying. This 12 year old is screwed – literally for the rest of her life.

    • Islam does allow women to get remarried. Get your fucking facts straight before you start acting all holier then thou

      I will admit though that Arab men are eerily similar to Japanese with their obsession of virginity: if she’s not a pure virgin waifu then I don’t want her. Unless she has money. Money always changes everthing

      • Ah yes. Money vs Extremist Islam Ideals. It’s a real close match.

        Now, I don’t know much about the Islam laws, but I do know this: The women are always screwed over by the rules of Islam. So it doesn’t really matter if they ARE allowed to re-marry. That point is rendered moot by the many other atrocities and injustices that have been committed against women because of Islamic extremists.

  • In the defence of non-retarded Muslims, they obviously don’t all feel this way. I have a friend who left Iran to come here because he, and others like him, see how fucked up these fundamentalist countries are, and that the rules are fucking stupid. These particular Iranians are also the ones who protested (and got a beat-down) during the recent elections, so non-retarded Muslims are trying their best to fix their stupid countries.

  • Shippoyasha says:

    It says something when even Arabic citizens are so bent to changing the same rule. And ultimately it’s the citizenry that suffer under these rules, especially Islamic fundamentalism that treats women as lesser than a human.

  • Ink kids are being raped!, EVERYONE MUST STOP THIS!… oh yeah, and in middle east real life kids are getting forcely married (or sold) but who cares… oh yes,AND WHALES!, SAVE THE WHALES FROM BEING RESEARCHED!. Just me or something is a bit wrong?

    In other islamic news:
    Yeah, right, and your religion is better with it’s child rape and vatican state, right.

  • “Outlawing the marriage of young girls to elderly men will have a negative effect on Saudi society as it will lead to mixing of the sexes which is impermissible in Islam.”

    I LOLed, hard.

    “…mixing of sexes…” hahaha!

    but anyway, loli for life!

    I also like full-breasted women btw.

  • It’s both a cultural and religious thing. They simply value their doctrine more than the will of any woman or young girl. That’s basically it. In other words, in their minds, this is actually an excellent backing for their laws. Most of the world thinks of this the other way around though, so of course it would be wrong to us. Just think of their actual mindset before you bash them, even if you think that mindset is totally wrong.

    It helps to understand their perspective on the matter before you all agree that it’s bad enough that “we” should invade them. Besides, I think these laws are supported democratically, possibility with the support of women too (out of fear or being brainwashed, I’m not sure though).

    • “Just think of their actual mindset before you bash them, even if you think that mindset is totally wrong.”

      We don’t think they are wrong, we know that they are wrong. Learn your facts straight, dammit.

    • Sorry kid, but Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, there is nothing democratic about it … in fact the country is considered one of the most authoritarian in the world.

      The women there do not have the right to dissent. We absolutely should be “bashing” them for selling and raping little girls …

      This is not about culture, or religion. It is about a group of people who hide behind the mantle of religion to justify the sick acts that they commit and to create a “reason” for why women should be treated as property and not as humans.

      • Never knew, so I was only guessing. I haven’t seen any lists saying Saudi was a dictatorship and I also have seen it accepted in the UN, so I thought it would have the universal human rights, but I guessed wrong, sorry

    • It’s because they’re backwards idiots that they must be forced to reform. Just because it’s the norm for them doesn’t mean their wrongdoings can be tolerated. They cannot be allowed to continue this kind of thing, and if no one does anything about it, the next generation will be the same.

      • Why dont you learn to mind your own business, stop meddling in other peoples affairs,
        If these people wanted to live like you they would already, Not everyone holds the views of you moral-minority mid-west inbred bible bashing retards, so fuck up and let people live their own lives

    • Violation of human rights is acceptable, because it’s normal? Seriously?

      Also, LOL at civil rights violations being democratically supported when the classes of citizens being discriminated against aren’t part of the democratic process. It’s a theocracy. Women can’t vote.

      • I never said it was acceptable, only that it’s best to understand their viewpoint before trying to do something about it. That is, unless you want another Iraq freedom war and a loving democratic country being seen as invaders by everyone in the world for butting in “business” that isn’t theirs. I’m sure if any democratic state would be seen as evil if it ever thought to stop the murders in Darfur. After all, it’s acceptable to the world as long as it isn’t happening to their own kind.

        • Nobody is saying we should invade them. We have a right to frown upon and be angry at them. So stop trying to take that right away by telling us to think about their mindset. Who gives a flying fuck.

        • You don’t have to be a cultural anthropologist to know that women all over and for many years have suffered abuses to their basic human rights. Why don’t you try understanding the point of view of a little girl or grown woman who has no say whatsoever over her own body or life simply because of her gender?

  • “No less a figure than Mohammed himself is said to have married a 6-year-old, though he graciously waited until she was 9 before consummating the marriage.”

    GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

    Now that the horror is out of my system, I will say that Saudi Arabia is a disgustingly barbarous country, and I don’t think very highly of Islam as religion either. I know I’ll be flamed for this, but damn that is an ass backward religion. Even worse than Catholicism, though I didn’t think that was possible.

    • Hey stupid arab anon, do you honestly think free health care and no taxes justifies treating women like dogs? Saudi Arabia is completely barbuous and ass-backwards. And don’t think it’s only Americans who look down on your shitty culture. EVERYONE outside of the middle east considers you to be nothing but shit.

      • your statement has nothing to do with what I said as women are also exempt from taxes and receive free health care. You base your entire judgment on just a few articles you’ve read on the internet. Try actually going there sometime or talking to some saudi women before you suddenly decide for them that they are oppressed.

        Its not like I believe all Americans are violent gun toting maniacs, that all catholic priests are pedophiles, and that every american is blonde and blue eyed.

        • Just saying one religion promotes bombings is rather dumb, be sure come to Ireland. My supposedly home lands, if I can it that any more. Where a lot of my family members died.

          Does that make me a sarcasm or a hypocrite??

        • They’re quite desperate to protect the “sanctity” of their religion. Like most religions, if they admit their rules are wrong, the whole thing would fall apart (not to mention the very obvious benefits they get from the rules where women are concerned).

        • wait….so….wait….you’re saying….that it should be okay for a man to have sex with a 9 year old because it’s accepted in a country?



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          yeah…i have no response to that

        • How could you criticize America as gun totting when Islam promotes bombings, how could you critcize catholic priest as pedophiles when your prophet is a pedophile and your religion allows underaged girls to get married.

          Hypocrite

  • “Age has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage contract, but consummation of marriage should be only when the bride reaches the age of puberty.”
    No consent either? I had the running notion that underage marriage was only illegal in the developed world because girls were not mature enough, from a mental stage perspective, to be able to fully commit and intellectually consent to the binding contract. That, and that most contracts require for the consummation of the contract in any case, which would of course also entail underage sex.
    All in all, I really see that women have little rights so to speak in the middle-east.

    • You say that but it doesn’t consider the variations in the age of consent in the developed world…no one has any idea when anyone is “mature” enough because there is no such thing…age rarely helps with the ability to make decisions…I know my almost 50 year old aunt who can’t tell which minor she is currently carrying the child of will never truly be considered fit for consent.

      • So, by anon’s logic, there’s no way to tell if a 8 y/o girl is more mature than a 16 y/o girl when it comes to something like, say, consent for sex, or marriage (think carefully about that before going on to the next question)?
        Well how about this then: does it still count as “consent” when your SOLD by your parents?

        • consider this:
          in the west and asia, the bride must be paid for courting. in the middle east, you have to pay the family. is that really sex trade?
          23k$ is a very modest sum though. i wouldn’t sell myself (or my kids) that cheaply, even in a spot where 23k$ is worth much more than here.

    • Tbh reading this great joy fills me…. that a place exists where we can still have loli brides = epic… we can go around with weapons = epicly epic…….
      I’m moving to this place when I’m old enough… … what language do they speak??? I needa start learning it asap >_<

      • The way I see it it’s not so much a land of pedophiles but rather a place that’s stuck in the medieval times.

        I dont really see the problem with whats going on in there mainly becouse it’s nothing new nor it is in any way out of the norm. Long ago we all did that and were fine(not supporting slavery here!)

        And “sex slaves” really? You really think that someone whose born in that country thinks about sex the same as you? I bet that most of them having 6 yr old wife do in fact wait for her to mature a bit.

        IT IS YOU WHO WANA HAVE A SEX SLAVE and now thant thats impossible you try stopping everyone else from having something that maches your picture.

        • I love how you moralists are so wise. You know you are right and those who oppose you are wrong, and of course there are things such as “right” and “wrong”. How else would you criticize the people you don’t agree with?

        • >>OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!<<

          How about reading further?

          "Yemen is a nation where child marriage is rife, with the government itself estimates a quarter of all girls are married by the age of 15. These girls suffer mortality rates during childbirth five times that of women in their twenties."

        • I don’t think he’ll be doing that. When 23k is PAID to parents for their young daughter, -against- her will, you could consider that selling her into slavery (or indentured servitude at best). They maintain no sex takes place til she’s hit puberty, and she can decide on divorce later. But, I’m sure there’s more than enough pressure from society to make sure she doesn’t go anywhere, just like I’m sure that sex takes place whenever her new husband (see: “owner), wants it. Probably as soon as he gets her to his home. It’s one thing to simply take advantage of naivety, another to completely take away “choice”.

        • I fully agree with HC. The main problem with most ‘civilized’ representatives of the modern society is that they fail to tolerate a norm which developed under rather different conditions and hasn’t evolved much as of yet. Well, hear this — no human is given human rights upon birth by nature, he is given his rights by the group of people he was born in.
          If a certain norm would be unbearable and too absurd for one to follow it, it wouldn’t exist for too long, as the group obeying that norm would simply rebel against it.
          Foreigners never had nor will ever have a place in this.

        • As fas as I know human anatomy girls start having their period around ~10-12 years of age so marriage is all good at that piont becouse nature says so.

          OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!

          P.S.

          Modern world is full of crap becouse they underestimate kids and make them the modern day monsters while on the other hand islamic world cant seem to keep up with the fact that its ok for marriage WHEN the girl is mature enouth to have kids and not prior to that point.

      • Why dont people mind their own countries business? There would be less problems within ones own country if people werent idiots and tried to mess with other countries. YES equality now, im looking at YOU.

        • I can abide by that if it’s a simple matter of fictional girls. They need no protection, but when I hear of real lolis being forced to become loli sex slaves for perverted old men. I take issue.

          These old bastards are scared like HELL to let these girls grow older, and more experienced because they would (almost) Never marry old men. If a woman wants to have kids, how the fuck is she going to get them with an 80 year old bag of bones?

      • Crude Reality says:

        These people are using the law and religion as a tool to openly covering up the fact that they are pedophile and supporting others to be one… what a pathetic people….

        For the figure himself.. dude… that thousands years ago… not now… we are now civilize and 6 years old is just too young and small… they still too innocent to know what marriage and sex is..

        • Whichever way you look at it, “childhood” is a relatively modern invention that was made possible by the Industrial Revolution – before then, children were usually just treated as small adults. It was the Victorians who developed childhood into what it is today in the West, shrouding it in mawkish sentimentality and idolizing the “innocence” of children. Whilst at the same time still visiting the child brothels that were commonplace in London and other cities.

          Say what you like about the Wahabi and other fundamentalist sects (and I do, often), at least they aren’t as hypocritical as the Victorians.

        • “For the figure himself.. dude… that thousands years ago… not now… we are now civilize and 6 years old is just too young and small”

          yeah that was back then when most people died by the age of 40 and anything past 60 is either a sage or considered something like a village elder. Not to mention the mortality rate of young births and young mothers at such a small age. The physical strain on the body is sometimes too great. We are aging and developing slower than before, not to mention the selling of young “wives” seem more like selling sex slaves.

        • It’s not about being a retard; most of the time humanity has existed children had been taught to take adult responsibilities at a much younger age –

          not because people were immoral but because it was much harder to survive.

          Such laws are outdated these days, however. I’m all for free love but it’s clear nobody asks girls their opinion when selling them in such countries.

        • because our 6 year olds are all total retards, born of like-minded parents, unlike 6-year olds of olden times, amirite.

          That double standard is just retarded, the only thing that changed between then and now is rapidly decreasing intelligence and the inevitable decisions that come with that.

        • ..b-but when I was 8 I was mature, and was aware of the underlying risks of sexual promiscuity. Surely this suggests that it would be unreasonable of us to conclude that all lolis are naive.

  • Godamnit why they critics us!! mind your own whore!! at least we have a sacred bond called marriage and they virgin too. plus we can married more than one woman. somthing that japanese otaku only have on their dream.. Yeaahh but sold the bride is awfully hmmm is this man have a pride?

    certainly there was lot loli marriage on my country indonesia and (I would have one tooo hehehehehe sayonara loli doujins welcome reality) at least loli crime is less in our country or arab than on japan hahahahahahaha try it and well burn them

    Age has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage contract, but consummation of marriage should be only when the bride reaches the age of puberty.

  • You know… I am Asian and… somehow, even though i think what they are doing is wrong…. I can’t help but wonder if it is the right thing for us to do interfere with their traditions. I mean… we are not Arabians… we don’t KNOW how they feel or why they believe they are right. What gives us the right to judge THEM with OUR standards? We have our own sense of morals and they probably have their own. In our eyes their acts are horrendous at best but to them it could be a long lived tradition passed down generations ago… Simply because we believe the act is unacceptable, does that mean we can abolish their traditions and system of belief? Think about it this way, There are certain tribes in New Zealand where the females are much more powerful than males. As a result the mother of a household can have numerous mates, and the mother also owns all of the children. We might believe that her behavior is morally wrong, but to that society that is the norm…. bah… i have spoken too much…

    • Look, there is one belief we all most hold the globe over to keep it from falling apart: that is that everyone (meaning the innocent) has the right to live without danger to his or her person by the acts of another. Such is are meager earthly law. It doesn’t mean squat in the scheme of the cosmos, but it’s at least something humanity can uphold to make life a little easier for everyone. No one wants to live in fear, and if we do live in fear, it is our moral obligation to our species to remove that fear. So stop looking at these cultures as independent agencies floating in a vacuum. The culture of the species trumps any and all variances of world view fashioned, for the most part, by environment and geographical location.

      And just to remind you, American slavery used to be the culture of the South. The system had even conditioned many blacks to prefer their enslavement. Should Lincoln had left the south alone out of respect for Southern culture?

    • Well I believe the thing you can do in that case is ask the person you think is wronged whether he prefers the treatment he gets to the treatment you believe is the right one, cause in the end, it’s all about how the individuals perceive it. Even in abusive relationship, the individuals feels crap but for a number of reasons he can’t leave. The perceived well-being of the individual and the perceived freedom of choice is what drives the notion of human and inhuman treatment.

  • Artfact succeded again at gathering those morons who bash into other for a mediatic shit which has no base(i imagine him laughing by reading those comments btw).

    Religions nowdays are the most targeted things by the media.Islam=terrorists,Christians=Pedophiles…and so on.

    Though,80% of the articles about them are lies.And i still laugh at people who insults religions without even knowing a single thing of them,they only learned about them through the crappy articles that Artefact posts.

    Ah,and”No less a figure than Mohammed himself is said to have married a 6-year-old, though he graciously waited until she was 9 before consummating the marriage.”

    lol ,it was 9 years old then waited to 13 years old.
    See? it’s so easy to feed ignorant people with shits like this,for they don’t search by themselves…but through articles that those satanist politicians release for they want to erase religion by highlighting the bad aspects as much as they can.

    Anyway,i mean no offence to anyone,but please be open minded,and don’t be trapped by any article you see on the net.