LDP: “Japan Must Introduce Conscription!”

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The LDP is said to be plotting to introduce conscription to Japan, along with the necessary constitutional amendments to allow it.

The LDP is reportedly considering introducing general conscription to Japan based on a “civic duty” rubric, as used in Germany and elsewhere:

“It is necessary to further consider the matter of the people’s connection to the army and the meaning of obligating military service in a democratic nation.”

Direct mention of conscription is avoided in favour of opaque euphemism.

Japan’s military is massively constrained by the US authored pacifist constitution the nation has had since being crushed in World War II; indeed the nation technically has no army at all.

A constitutional amendment would be required to introduce conscription, which requires a national referendum amongst other legal and legislative hurdles – the LDP has long been interested in passing such an amendment, and apparently intends to announce an amendment plan in May.

Leaving aside the illiberal nature of a government enforcing military service, or how profoundly unpopular such a policy would be, the practical aspects of such a policy seem ill thought out at best – modern militaries demand highly trained and motivated specialists, usually associated with professional career soldiers.

Additionally, flooding Japan’s tiny military with school leavers would likely do nothing but exacerbate the pension time bomb Japan is singularly failing to defuse – spending money to delay young people’s entry into the labour market through unproductive trench digging and further disrupting their ability to form families with banishment to barracks seem unlikely to help.

Such questions are however academic – it seems actually getting such an amendment past the Japanese public in a vote would be challenging at the very least, and the chances of a party actually getting into power with such a policy seems even more remote.

2ch is unsparing:

Impossible!

You’ll never get that kind of thing through!

What’s the point of this? It’ll cost a fortune.

You’ll never get back into office with that.

This is insanity. If this got through I’d seriously consider emigrating.

The LDP are crazy too. I can hear jackboots.

There isn’t even an army so what’re they thinking of doing with all those militiamen?

The LDP’s turned into a cult.

They not got enough SDF recruits?

I recall there were several times more applicants than places…

The US wouldn’t stand by and let them go through with that.

The US’d welcome the extra pawns.

This is right. Hurry up and put the unemployed in the army.

The LDP have gone absolutely insane.

I’m a NEET but I’m the eldest son so they’d let me off, right?

I’m ill so I can’t go.

My eyesight is really bad, I can’t go either.

Why are they making something requiring specialist technical knowledge into a ‘duty’? The global trend is away from conscription…

Those worthless old people are just yammering “young people today don’t have any guts” again.

This is no good. Even if they really want to pass it, announcing it like this is crazy.

They sound as if they want to have us fight another Asian nation…

Marvellous – finally I can fight and die magnificently for the sake of our great nation – my heart burns!

You dirty otaku needn’t worry as you’d be rejected for having bad eyesight.

Get lost! I’d sooner die than serve! You can be sure the children of the rich and powerful will get out of it or be given easy work.

If they don’t brainwash people from childhood, how do they expect this to work? They think the youth of Japan would obey after all these years?

Idiots – human wave tactics in this day and age. Quality over quantity, and huge amounts of money are required, you fools.

Rearmament plans are in, now hurry up with the nuclear arsenal already!

As expected they take no notice of public opinion, they’re digging their own graves.

Just who are the LDP fighting?

You guys needn’t worry, it’s the elementary schoolers who are going to get shafted.

They should conscript the old guys too – make sure sending those crazy old fool politicians to the front lines is the number one priority.

This is probably how they intend to fix their shortage of caregivers for old people.

Stop it. You’ll only increase suicides even more.

Impossible. This’d just be like being told to die by America. No different from that messed up Empire we had.

This country’s had it. I never imagined we’d end up with politicians this stupid.

The LDP are a bunch of geriatrics you know. Wherever you are, war is just the elderly sending the young to the battlefield.

Update: The politician quoted has hurriedly denied the LDP plans any conscription, saying that “we were only interested in looking at the situation in other countries, and have no plans to implement it here.”

This of course leaves open the question of why they would want to be considering such systems if they had no plans of implementing it…


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    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Carpal Tunnel syndrome is apparently a legitimate excuse to skip the draft. FAP LIKE CRAZY, EXSCAPE DRAFT.

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    Comment by Mitchell
    17:40 24/11/2017 # ! Neutral (0)

    Have that horribly in my right hand, and alittle in my left. I'd suggest not.

    Just move if your being forced to do something you have a moral stand against.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:12 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Suuure, let's go through Showa militarism all over again! Next thing you'll know the JSDF will invade South Korea

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:21 08/02/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    better yet North Korea

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:18 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Imagine an all otaku army.

    They'd wipe themselves out over who gets to be what character.

    General Take...
    GRIFFITHS
    What?
    I told you to adress me by my rank
    Sir General of the Godhand Griffiths?
    That's better.

    Alright...Sir General of the Godhand Griffiths, Lieutenant Ya...

    If you don't call him Lieutenant Char Aznable the Red Comet, I will have you spanked

    I thought the usual punishment was...
    SPANKED! DO YOU HEAR ME SOLDIER!? SPANKED!

    Soldier 1: It sucks that our generals a crazy fucking otaku, why'd they let them into the army anyway?

    Soldier 2: They offered every otaku a loli or a shota trap

    Soldier 1: Seriously?

    Soldier 2: General t...Griffiths slew over 500 men with his bare hands in order to get his harem of traps, Char took an entire city on his own in cardboard armor shouting "I'm a mobile suit, I'm a mobile suit, Red makes me go faster!" Those crazy fucks are the backbone of our army!

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    Comment by Shirakawa
    09:19 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the consideration of closing the US marine airbase in Okinawa. Removal of some of the US military presence in Japan has them worried? I dare say they shouldn't with a fairly strong Naval presence even as a Defense Force and plenty of US bases still active.

    Plus I like this response:
    "I’m a NEET but I’m the eldest son so they’d let me off, right?"

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is economically inefficient for japan to support NEETS, they're better off with conscription

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    Comment by Barbarian of Gor
    05:55 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not a good idea for Japan. Though, in polite response to one of the 2ch comments, it's "Rich and Powerful" would likely be one of the few countries left to force them into military service, like England where the remaining nobility are technically "Knights".

    But, not a good idea... The only real 'enemies' Japan might face that'd threaten it in it's own borders are N. Korea and a more remote possibility of China. N. Korea isn't a threat as long as the USA is there to wipe them out if they go all out war on the south. In any case, such an action would burn itself out on S. Korea, likely creating a "Cambodia". China would wipe them off the map, no contest. But, as long as they always vocalize their displeasure when some (equivalent to USA Neo Nazi) creep makes a "Pro Nanking assault" Manga, no real danger.

    So, they are better off just finding a technical solution. Have "Technological Defense" funding where some of their science guys work on maybe making the "Energy Shield" go from Sci-Fi to RL instead of the "Sea Angel Egg" project;-) That way they are protected in case N. Korea makes a 1/2 Hiroshima powered nuke and launches it at the USA in an act of lunacy, and the missile breaks apart and drops over Japan. Also, I bet they could work out some very neat "Powered Armor" suits!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:39 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    as soon as i see the name "barbarian of gay" and a wall of nonsense.

    i skip to the next comments, after writing this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:22 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conscription in a country which has a history of World War crime is not a good idea.

    Comment by Dark Mage
    07:25 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conscription might increase the size of the standing army but it also would greatly reduce the over all quality of individual units.

    A modern military depends far more on technology and skilled individuals then sheer manpower.

    You can't have a good military with only 1 year service terms it takes a year just to get properly trained on equipment and be taught tactics.

    If they are paranoid they could be caught under manned in a time of national emergency then institute selective service.
    If an emergency happens you go round up the names of every abled bodied man aged 18 to 25 and put them in a big fish bowel and draw random names.

    The oldest will be placed in the lottery first such as 25,24,23,22,21 in that order.

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    Comment by alex251
    06:55 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Germany has an army too, so where is the problem. Maybe the problem is that Germans are now only loosers :( after some time Germany will be probably ruled by women and gays.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:48 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Germans have fully apologized for their past crimes. Japanese? sort of. Besides, Japanese people are not as trust worthy as Germans. Look at Pearl Harbor Jap-attack. They are bunch of pussies who attack a nation without declaring war.

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    Comment by alex251
    20:27 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...that's called Blitzkrieg. And Germany is only an American puppet now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:23 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If that is my commanding officer then sign me up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:47 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    金だけ出してアメリカに守ってもらうのは、"同盟"では
    無くて、"用心棒"だよな。金じゃ血の代わりにならない
    からな。DPJのアメリカ離れは、見方によっては"用心棒"
    から"同盟"になる為の絶好の機会になるかもしれないな。
    近年の自衛隊の海外での活動や、LDPの徴兵制の検討も、
    その為の下準備かも知れないね。

    Comment by Dark Mage
    07:17 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I did some reading up on the LDP they ruled pretty much unopposed for 54 years and I feel the party is highly corrupted and no longer acts in their people's best interest.

    Conscripts are less relevant in a modern military then they were in WWII.
    A modern military depends far more on technology and skilled individuals then sheer man power.

    Conscription would reduce the over all quality of JDF forces even though it would increase their numbers over the JDF would be much weaker as a result.

    Worst case institute a selective service for times of emergency.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:52 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well that's something you can do to all the NEETs and Hikikomori. Draft them.

    Boot camp might do them a little good.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:28 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They wanna whip all of those lazy Hikki-whatever-dudes (the shut ins) into shape and give them jobs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah! Everyone prepare for World War 3... The whole world wants to do military training. What for war?

    Instead of conscription they should give jobs and job training.

    Humans... They are marching to their doom.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:24 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    America really did a bad job cleaning up.
    Still reeks of Imperial Japanese thoughts.
    Fucking rightist scum...
    I have nothing against capitalists by the way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:46 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The more Japan is flooded by neets, hikikomori and otaku, the more it is restrained on a military level.
    I'm all thumbs up for Japan to finally establish a military force and show the US corps to the exit.
    But of course, I don't want that to affect my precious Anime T-T
    However, obviously Anime Nation != Military Nation, but maybe they'll be able to find a compromise

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    Comment by desumon
    05:18 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd only sign in if the barracks are mixed genders.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:24 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    screw conscription. JUST DEVELOP THOSE BIPED ROBOT SUITS FASTER ALREADY!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 08/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan doesn't need a military. Nor does Switzerland, Scotland, Ireland, Sweden, Portugal, or any country that isn't in any threat of being attacked.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:36 10/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Scotland was attacked by terrorists in 2007.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:08 08/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i believe Anon is correct, but Scotland wasn't 'invaded' by another nation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:22 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rearmament and Conscription are necessary as most people in Asia have no idea upon how to fire a real gun.

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    Comment by tyciol
    14:16 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This sounds stupid to me, why not just increase the salary these guys are paid to motivate people to join?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:59 06/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no fair i wanna pilot 00-raiser too

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:45 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think this is the funniest post: You dirty otaku needn’t worry as you’d be rejected for having bad eyesight.

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    Comment by Gitami
    19:45 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The LDP will take the unemployed and give them a job in the army, they'd be paid and taxed and at the same time relieve the welfare programs. Of course those conscripts would opt out at the end of their term and become eligible for the programs again. They may choose to stay as reserves and get tax benefits.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:51 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    seems to me the best bet would be training videogame NEETS to operate predator drones. So they just have to report to work or telecommute and bomb the proverbial harbor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:40 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I believe this is the right thing to do, quite frankly I think the Japanese people have become a docile race.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:52 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    they do have threats.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:17 08/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    no as catastrophic or scary as North and South Korea though, South Korea are intimidating North Korea yet North Korea has condemned a third of Japan to death.

    time to plea to the Russian Army

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    Comment by Lebowski
    10:41 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck yeah kill'em all

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:58 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    All in all, this would be an excellent idea given certain social problems they are facing. A mandatory period of social interaction that focuses on teamwork could be a substantial benefit for there country.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:01 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "You guys needn’t worry, it’s the elementary schoolers who are going to get shafted."

    I like the way this guy thinks.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    16:05 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conscription sucks. If those people are well protected by alliances, then good for them.

    Forcing military into citizens should not be humanly allowed unless there is a direct and present danger to the nation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:33 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    When was the last time Japan had conscription?

    ... Really? Well...

    Someone call the US Air Force. Time to increase the air patrols at Pearl Harbor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:12 08/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    maybe, a new Shogonate will appear, better prepare for living in the Sengoku period again. now where's my history book again...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:49 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Singapore has compulsory conscription and we have the shittiest army in the world. No one gives a crap about doing their job and it takes us 2 hours to unlock the gate.

    Compulsory military service doesn't work dumbnuts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:29 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well finally, Japan is finally getting with the program with it's East Asian brothers. Personally, I think they should start with the NEET 25-30 year olds, and have them serve a minimum 1-2 years, while everyone 18 and under 25 should do a required 2-3 years like in Korea or China.

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    Comment by Gitami
    09:50 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is an economical side to this.. they take the unemployed (there are some employed hikkos) and conscript them, they'd need to be paid which the LDP will find some way to tax and at the same time relieve the social programs (if Japan has one).

    But then again after their service terms they'd become eligible for years of social benefits again.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    23:52 04/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They should just recruit young witches around the world and make them wear panties...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    <3

    I love you.

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    Comment by fxc2
    23:56 04/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL already making excuses why they can't go. Theres also conscription where I live, that's why I'm not planning to stay long. :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:46 04/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    maybe Japan is using VR training so that they know war=game and someone some person called Jack will be the top soldier and will have its gene use to crreate 3 clones and the project is called Les Enfants Terribles???

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:32 04/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha, I've long thought this actually. Japanese young people are so spoiled, lazy, and don't know anything but peace, which is called "heiwa-boke" (becoming stupid from too much peace). Of course it ain't happening so it doesn't matter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:00 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    anon MAH BOIII, this peace is what all true warriors strive for!

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:03 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You speak as if peace is a bad thing.

    Let nature take it's course. If spoiled and lazy men are what works, then why try to counteract it?

    It's not like this world can take any more macro scale wars anyway. It's either peace or annihilation from now on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:24 05/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Correction: peace unless you are attacked or annihilation.







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