An extreme stealth ban on loli material extending to “clothing or voices reminiscent of a person under the age of 18” has been proposed as an amendment to Tokyo’s regional laws, with clear nationwide implications.
A summary of the relevant passages from the proposed amendment:
Any literature or film which might be thought to constitute a depiction of sexual activity involving or apparently involving a person under 18, someone dressed in a manner reminiscent of an under-18, or who speaks like an under-18, may not in Tokyo be viewed by or sold or distributed to any young person.
A direct translation of the heavy legalese, from the Tokyo Metropolitan Area Youth Protection Ordinance Reform Bill:
Section 3: Restriction of the Sale of Unhealthy Literature
[A ban on sales, lending or distribution to, or viewing by, minors in the Tokyo area would cover:]
1. Items which stimulate sexual emotions, foster cruelty, encourage suicide or promote crime, or otherwise impede the healthy growth of youth. [This clause is identical to current legislation]
2. Items which through age, clothing, accessories, school year, setting, other people’s ages, or voice, seems reminiscent of a person who might be recognised as an under-18 (hereafter called a “a fictional minor”) engaged in, or appearing to be engaged in, sexual activity or activity resembling sexual activity, or which impede the development of healthy sexual faculties in youths, or which might be feared to obstruct the healthy development of youths.
This is indeed as vague, subjective and sweeping as it appears. A similar clause bans “anything resembling rape.”
Although phrased as a ban on sales and distribution to under-18s, the ramifications would be far more severe – anything which might fall foul of the incredibly vague and ambiguous definition of “unhealthy material” given above would likely have to either be censored completely or take an “adult mark” and be treated as age-restricted adult material throughout the Tokyo area.
Tokyo is of course where most anime, manga and games are made and sold – any such restrictions would undoubtedly cause a drastic reduction in sales and consequently production, with nationwide implications.
The ban would also extend to Internet distribution, though whether just to Tokyo minors or also by Tokyo companies to minors elsewhere is not clear. Presumably television would also be within the remit of the ban as well.
The reform bill also proposes to “make possession of child pornography by Tokyo residents illegal,” apparently vaguely defined to include the above sort of material, which opponents are increasingly attempting to brand “virtual child pornography.” However, no criminal sanction is proposed or legally possible, so this particular amendment would appear to be entirely toothless.
Other proposed changes to Tokyo law include attempts to force Internet censorship of “unhealthy” sites for minors (such filtering is already semi-compulsory) by a variety of measures, such as by stripping parents of the right to unfilter their children’s Internet and mobile phone access.
It is not clear what chance the proposal has of being accepted as law at this stage, or whether it could survive concerted legal challenge; protests by publishing industry and union groups have so far been ignored. Those pushing the laws have previously called otaku opponents “mentally ill” and so seem unlikely to heed criticism.
Frustrated at the national level by constitutional protections and political ambivalence, opponents of free expression and sexuality, in large part extremist Christian and feminist groups, have been working to ban material they object to by the backdoor – a ban of such sweeping magnitude would cripple the publishing and Internet industries of Tokyo, as well as crush freedom of expression in Tokyo, and by extension all of Japan.
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Censorship comes in. Crime rate goes up. Ad infinitum to create more crime waves that are blamed on innocent Otaku.
The end is nigh. The download rush begins.
Soon otakus will build a haven.
There is the well-known novel in Japan which describes the kinky sexual activity.
Title -"Taiyo-no-kisetsu"(La Saison du soleil).
Author - Taro Ishihara, the present governor of Tokyo...
Sorry.I mistook.
Not Taro Ishihara. Correct name is Shintaro Ishihara.
Did someone think about the sex dolls ? What will happen to them ? They all look like 16.
Next step should be to ban "moe" and make again good animes :)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........It's bad enough not being able to watch child porn legally, but now this?? Why world?? why??? what did I do to deserve this...
If this goes through I may have to resort to a suicide bombing...... for the good of lolicon's everywhere.
fuck you if you even want to watch cp. fucking sicko. Loli isn't just a different ballpark, it's a different universe than cp.
Unfortunately, the Shogunate was not thorough enough in his purges...lol..
>which might be feared to obstruct the healthy development
That'd be the most absurd law ever. "hey we can't prove it but it's still illegal"
Let's not forget the governor of Tokyo, Shintarou Ishihara, the biggest fascist figure in Japan.
I should say that one of the biggest factors of Japan banning pedophilic materials are conservative bigwigs in Tokyo city hall, which is directly connected to the Diet.
That's it. I'm moving out of Tokyo.
MUST NOT LET IT PASS!
They obviously do not understand the seriousness of this situation.
Once the ban is fixed, suicides will rise hundred-fold
"Do you know what kind of suicide rate we'd have if all the lolicons killed themselves?"
"And acceptable one."
lolicons are people too. and maybe there are better than other people .?
There is no "good" or "bad". It's relative.
My name? Captain Obvious.
No, I don't think either of those are the case.
I vote that we ban banning.
with the low birth rates in Japan, they should encourage young people to fuck more, not to turn them into asexual robots. Even more, the younger they start fuckig i.e: 16yo, the better. Cause the older they get, the more aware they will be about the stupidity of becoming fathers.
chalk up one more point for dictatorship and loss of free speach
This law seems self destructive both for Japan and the political careers of those pushing them if you ask me.
wish for a Bund for lolicons?
That's globalization for you...
As someone ignorant of the circumstances, I wonder if relocation to elsewhere in Japan by the relevent businesses is plausible?
Most loli manga/anime are already sold sealed with "adult marks" on. And the other stuff about clothing and voices is just absurd and would impinge on the rights of adults. So, I can't see how this could pass a constitutional test. These moral maniacs are making themselves increasingly unpopular in Japan. So with any luck, it will get trashed ....
Well this is retarded...
I'm very anti CP, well, I'm technically anti adult porn. lol. But it's legal and none of my business. (see that retarded governments of the world? It's not your business.) I especially hate the idea of children being hurt, corrupted, etc etc. But good grief this is ANIME and COMICS! It's not fucking real!
Whats wrong with people? Seriously? How bout they just bad CP. Y'know, sex trafficking, kidnapping and raping children - oh wait. That IS illegal. As is MOST violent crime.
To some of the arguments about going underground: yes, people still will. And live in fear. Never knowing if some government goon is gonna show up at your door to arrest you years later, or a friend is gonna go tattle because you didnt like the loli on your PC showing off her pantsu.
Yes, yes, yes. Creepy men. Blah blah blah. Men have always been creepy. Want to know how to handle it? Some dude sticks his finger in your kids butt JUST SHOOT THE FUCKER. Someone checks out your kids butt? Whap him upside the head and theaten to shoot him with a smile XD
Damn feminists. Do women want to be men THAT BADLY? I understand the movement way back when - men were loosers and the women needed to be able to take care of themselves. But good GOD did they go overboard. Maybe so many dudes wouldnt like little girls if the ADULT females were still willing to BE girls. And maybe women would like men if they grew up and acted like men? Doubtfull on that last part. Boys dont like girls (aka shemales) and girls dont like boys. Women dont want husbands, or equals or w/e. They want pets.
Unless you punch the bitch in the head and cheat on her and do drugs and go to jail and have no job. Then she'll stay with you forever... But I digress!
Feminists and FALSE christians are destroying the world. You cant decide for everyone on the planet whats good and bad by pointing a gun at their heads. History shows that repeatedly. Make laws. And do your best to keep the country moving, and punish dumb assess accordingly.
I could rant on this crap forever... Somethings are just common sense to be wrong. Trying to micro manage each breath, thought and movement of the citizens in your countries is IMPOSSIBLE and a waste of time. All it does is HELP criminals and hinders the good guys. The Yakuza could just take up the anime business, doubt they mind the extra cash.
It's like Obamma's (or however the hell our presidents name is spelled. Dont really care) retarded gun laws / views. The people out there commiting crimes and all these murders with guns arnt buying the fucking things legally to begin with. Someone wants to go kill a fellow gang banger aint filling out his background check forms - he's buying it in an ally.
As is, there are still SOME rules companies have to follow to publish their loli stuff. If it goes illegal does the ruling whatever of japan REAAAAALLY think whomever takes up the industry in the shadows is going to even attempt to adhere to not pissing off the public? AKA "where get a 22 year old to do the voice acting for the loli rape seen! Lets get a 8 year old and record her screaming while we really rape her!"
...... Morons. Real criminals dont abide by the laws to begin with. They think they are protecting kids? They are painting fucking targets on their backs!
"...... Morons. Real criminals dont abide by the laws to begin with. They think they are protecting kids? They are painting fucking targets on their backs!"
Lolz yeah I agree. Take away lolicon... "What! Potential Pedophile is evolving!?!?... Potential Pedophile has evolved into True Pedophile!!"
Then again, this probably never would've happened if loli was banned or never existed in the first place. I dunno, a have mixed feelings about this...
no loli=no life
2chan, don't fail us now. Oppose this bill as hard as you can.
Anon will hijack Hive Mind sooner or later...
however as long as this could be a show off only bill it should be relatively safe well another thing is that as long as there is no legal sanction then so it could be a pointless bill thats only there for show
That new anti-CP team that just formed last fortnight is probably behind this!
UNICEF Japan's "Illwill Ambassador" Agnes Chan is ON that team!
DAMN THAT SPROG QUEEN!
Osama pls protect them lolis!
Nice try.
The last anyone saw Bin Laden, he was balls-deep in his goat's ass.
I thought Bin Laden was into camels.
There's a big height difference.
That, and the mountainous terrain makes it hard to keep a harem of that sort.
Sad day, I'm crossing my fingers so this doesn't pass. What are we to do without loli manga??
I wonder how is this gonna affect COMIKET conventions...
I guess business in that single event will be seriously curtailed.
I mean c'mon... COMIKET is the biggest publication convention in the world! I think the people running COMIKET should start handing out PETETIONS to stop Restriction of the Sale of Unhealthy Literature bill.
I guess it will be moved to another city. a big loss for Tokyo, but well - they wanted it.
Well, I rememnber Artefact wrote a very right thing about it. Otaku fandom are too useless people to defend their own rights, or to fight for something they want.
As a matter of fact I thing they settled for things that other peoples don't care about. So being part of something where you don't have to struggle or argue with people that could hunt you and break your face is very appealing for a nice and defendless otaku.
And I think that's why a bunch of stupid bitches and Milfs spend their times destroyng this people, they are just the easiest prey. Otaku don't defend their self or their hobbies, (collecting cards, dressing dolls, watch cartoons, fantasize about having sex with females of their same mental age). So in a world where the stronger eats the weaker, is very understandable that certain groups use them to rise their ranks in the politic's ground.
"On the surface, an artist tries to frame his ideals in an image, to challenge his audience and make his vision immortal. But the parasites say "NO! Your art must serve the cause! Your ideals endanger the people!""
―Artist Display
Oh well, it seems in Japan Christian groups are going after Young boys so It looks like Shota still in the market.
Wtf is wrong the government listening to fanatics...
If they ban MILF...
It will be epic if they ban Hikikomori from their homes lol.
Hopefully they ban religion next.
MILF is banned for those kidnappings and beheadings
If this ban is passed (Heaven forbid), all those responsible for it--Agnes Chan included--have automatically SIGNED THEIR OWN DEATH WARRANTS!!
I have been reading this kind of topics and i thinks that the only way we have to fix their brains is to appeal to count for insulting us by calling us rapists and staff. They wont care for words but if we strike their money they may just get it.
No point in speaking with fanatics.
The great era of loli pedophilia is seeing its dusk! Not that I really had an attachment to it. We are better off with keeping it out of our entertainment altogether. Loli is only animation or just simple artwork, but the way the mind processes things proves its potentially dangerous consequences. The first bit of "loli" I ever seen was Petite Cosette, and that was horror loli/goth anime. I for one would prefer mature depictions of characters participating in sexual activity and feel that anyone obsessed with children included in these acts should seek help, though they might just be apprehended by authorities ASAP.
So I bit farewell to loli and will continue enjoying more "normal" avenues of entertainment.
Lastly, you all just lost THE GAME!
Holy shit, so many comments. Didn't think so many cared. So, does this mean no Lucky Star or Hayate? If you ask me, you shouldn't ban lolicon. It'll turn potential pedophiles into real pedophiles. With loli gone, potential pedophiles/lolicon lovers will more likely end up raping little girls. Of course, they probably never would've ended up like potential pedophiles if it weren't for lolicon. LMAO w/e guess they should ban it. Just make sure that they watch the little ones...
A "family-friendly" Tokyo is NOT the Tokyo I want to visit!!
i agree
Agreed, family friendly ANYTHING sucks.
Actually, this really isn't surprising. Too bad for my friend, he loves this stuff.