Tales of Graces Recall Humiliates Namco


Bandai Namco has finally announced a humiliating official recall of its notoriously buggy Wii title Tales of Graces, a mere three months after release.

Bugs include a wide variety of issues with second play-throughs, a number of non-appearing enemies and items, and most critically several bugs which can break the game by preventing progress.

Whether they have tackled alleged Wii crashing bugs is not mentioned.

Sadly, the Wii’s inability to handle heavy patching seems to have slipped their QA department’s mind – the disc swap will be by direct mail at an unannounced date.

Namco’s policy of beta testing its Tales games on secondary systems seems to be paying off – a bug-free PS3 release incorporating user feedback, new characters and plenty of DLC will doubtless arise later in 2010, much to the delight of Wii owning Tales fans.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    07:47 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why do I get the feeling that this is becoming an uncomfortable habit for game developers these days?

    They'll release a title that hasn't been properly tested, then release a patch a month or so later to fix what should not have been there in the first place.

    Other examples of this include the PS3 port of Bayonetta and the general release of Fallout 3 (that game still has a ton of bugs lying around well over a year after it's initial release).

    This case where the hardware limitations meant the problems couldn't be patched comes as a well deserved bite in the ass for Namco.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:46 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I always disliked the tales franchise, every game is the same fucking thing and the characters all look gay

    except this one has a shit load of bugs included, fuck you namco

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:33 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The article make it sound like they were just throwing ToG out there and going to patch it later. That is a dangerous attitude to have. It's thinking like that that's going to drive the industry down.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:23 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    360 fans be happy, karma has bitten.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, karma would have bitten if it happened to the ps3 version... this was the wii

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If namco is just going to be a lazy ass, might as well release it for PC and let the fan hackers fix their errors.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:35 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't really see this game getting a PS3 release. I really don't.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:14 25/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why are people complaining about the recall? They're actually fixing the bugs instead of keeping them in there, and people are bitching?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:12 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The last Tales game I played through was Tales of Destiny on the PS1. This is why. When most of the Wolf Team left to go form tri-Ace, they took with them a lot of the talent. Destiny was alright, but after playing Phantasia I can see how it's kind of a pale imitation. Eternia (Destiny II in North America) was worse, and aside from a bit of a jump for Symphonia to near-Phantasia levels, the series has been declining in quality ever since.

    It's the Tomb Raider of RPGs. Ever since Tales of Destiny II in 2002 (which didn't see a North American release), the series has seen at least one release per year as a main title. Compare that to Star Ocean, which has seen... five releases total since 1996, one of them a direct sequel spin-off released on the Gameboy Color.

    Star Ocean games don't come out nearly as often for good reason... They often incorporate bug testing and other factors like talent which allow the released title to feature a high level of quality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:38 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Riiight... Star Ocean is all quality and the only good Tales games are Phantasia and Symphonia. Say, did you play Star Ocean 4? Either version works, as they're basically the same. You're going to tell me that, outside of the battle system (which still has big issues on its own), it's a "quality" game? Man, you're full of it.

    Star Ocean stopped being "quality" after they made the second game and tri-Ace hasn't managed to make a game that was more than just "okay" since the first Valkyrie Profile. Tales might end up with some shitty releases, but they at least have done *some* good stuff in the past ten years, most notably the remake of Tales of Destiny.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:52 25/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's wrong with Star Ocean? We both agree the first two/three games were great, no issue.

    Star Ocean 3 was beautiful for the PS2 (and the surprise spin people love to bitch about was something that was painfully obvious to anyone who was paying attention to the game, had played either/both of its main prequels, and had paid attention to the Encyclopedia - they even talked in-game about other games made by tri-Ace as "other planets" - Duh?!), and I'm loving just about everything offered in SO4 (and the various vocal tics are not NEARLY as annoying as originally advertised). I'm not seeing what their problems are?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:17 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Star Ocean, quality?

    Lol nice one troll.

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    Comment by Callysto
    23:00 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Great this is all we need for namco to justify their atrocious VESPERIA INCIDENT.

    It's one thing to beta test under the table it's another thing to not release the perfect copies outside of japan.

    Hopefully they shape up or angry people will commence whooopings of the butt.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:59 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    To me it looks like the Wii is to blame for its inability to patch the games. In former generations the non-patchable mentality was so big, no one even dared to release a game full of bugs, now we even have such a thing as gamma testing for the real release.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:45 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    One of the presumed advantages of using a console vs using a PC (for gaming) is that it's Plug-and-Play; the devs have a standardized, non-changing hardware base, the user doesn't have to hassle with patches, etc.

    Now that consoles are becoming more like PCs (hard drives, OS updates, etc.), those "advantages" are lessening.

    I expect that some time soon, game A's patch will conflict with game B's patch, and people will be in the equivalent of "MS Windows DLL Hell".

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:16 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It fucking better not.

    I switched from PC Gaming and Consoles to Console-only simply because I can just stick the disc in and play.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:46 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh yes lets blame the system for the stupid testers at namco, oh come on dont be a moron.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    so now since you can repair games and add content latter its okay to release shitty games?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:31 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Please Namco...I want my loli pirate girl...

    Please for the love of Martel, send the PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia to the US already..!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    23:54 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    most fo the games for wii suck anyway, its not surprising

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:41 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    But they usually suck because the game itself is just-follow-the-leader cheap shovelware. I heard this game was actually good aside from bugs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:32 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what those bastards deserve for not localizing the PS3 Vesperia game. Racist pricks...

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    05:23 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)


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    Comment by izu taisa
    21:08 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    which mean now final fantasy finally got friend?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:03 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I see what you did there

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    Comment by Lilith
    21:04 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sad for people that bought it and live overseas I guess.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:57 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not at all, if they knew enough to import it then they should have read enough to know that it was buggy

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    Comment by TheBeast
    09:44 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i put bad mojo on them just like i did eidos.

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    Comment by LUMINCE
    21:59 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Namco, I am disappoint.

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    Comment by Lucifer
    07:15 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thank goodness we have systems to test out the beta games for the final version product to be imported into the PS3. PS3 owners can't have nothing but the BEST! ¯¯ω¯¯

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:08 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS3 fanboy smells bad.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:12 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is what happens when you release RPGs for a Nintendo console that isn't the SNES.
    When will they learn? The Wii is even more of a POS than the Gamecube was.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:38 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In that the Gamecube was not a POS it all while the Wii is? It was more powerful than the PS2 you know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:31 03/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am Jack's smirking revenge.

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    Comment by CoreFlood
    23:05 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh... if you're gonna do that Lumi...


    if you don't get it... it's best you don't... and if you look it up, only asians can do that without getting the "look"

    Comment by Schrobby
    11:27 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seems open betatesting is normal practice now, like broadcasting half drawn anime on TV.

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    Comment by basilio
    06:06 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    For those who don't get what "SUPPLIES!" is about...

    http://www.funpcgame.com/Jokes/Chinese%20surprise.html [http://www.funpcgame.com/Jokes/Chinese surprise.html]

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    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    02:34 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why am I getting so hard from the opening picture!? It's not too revealing or anything!

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    Comment by Algester
    21:20 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    which is why piracy in some cases prevails.... the hassle and bustle of original disks and its fatal flaws can sometimes can cause harm to a company namely one of them is NISA... sad to say..

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:40 23/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man, these guys test less than Super Mario World ROM-hackers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    When will they learn not to release a Tales of BETA???

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    Comment by hALOTOO
    01:05 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    more like Tales of disgrace.

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    Comment by psycholoner
    03:28 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I got through the first playthrough without too many problems. The only thing that showed up were a few sound problems. Its too bad it got recalled. Its a really fun game!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:17 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The RPG glory days of Square Enix and Namco are over, the time of Bioware abd Atlus have come!!

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    Comment by Jarmel
    01:06 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow I've never heard of a game recall before. Is it that uncommon?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:56 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cough cough Grand Theft Auto: San Andres

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:59 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Even though "Hot Coffee" wasn't all that "Hot". But at least Rockstar handled the issue effectively. Unlike "Stingy-Co"(Stingy Namco).

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    Comment by CaptainFawful
    01:33 24/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd never heard a single thing about Graces being buggy. That's a bit disappointing, I was really getting excited for it...

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