Bakemonogatari Shafts K-ON! Hard!
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Feb 23, 2010 01:06 JST
- Tags: Bakemonogatari, Comparison, DVD Extras, K-ON!, Kyoto Animation, Shaft
The anime market’s verdict is that Nadeko anime Bakemonogatari is almost twice as good as feeble moe-blob anime K-ON!
The sales of the two anime compared:
K-ON! BD & DVD Sales Totals:
01 – 51,192
02 – 43,156
03 – 40,029
04 – 37,934
05 – 36,682
06 – 37,566
07 – 42,039
Average: 41,600
Bakemonogatari BD & DVD Sales Totals:
01 – 79,228
02 – 73,071
03 – 69,475
04 – 74,348
Average: 74,030
2 volumes of Bakemonogatari are yet to be released, and surprisingly it continues to sell hundreds of copies a week, so it seems likely to become even better than K-ON! in future.
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That's because Bakemonogatari has TWO factors pulling it to the top: Moe, and the key factor, an interesting storyline.
K-ON only has the former.
and they showing the incomplete version on tv :)
Yeah I think incomplete versions have an effect on DVD sales. The TV version I watched was basically eyecancer.
It was fine to me, I think its the fact that Bakemonogatari has more appeal to every one rather than the hardcore otaku like K-ON
what I am trying to say is Bakemonogatari > K-ON
in my opinion at least
another thing about the incomplete version with Bakemonogatari, at least for the TV versions for myself, I kind of liked the... not really sure how to say it as I'm still braindead (25-26 hours of Mass Effect 2... was okay, wasn't great, wasn't bad either) this morning (afternoon, if you feel that 1pm isn't morning for some :P) but it was "intriguing?" it certainly kept my attention and the imagination that you were forced to use during those incomplete scenes kept at the very least me hooked.
of course you get the full service to the DVD version but for some of you guys out there you have to admit the TV version had its merit albeit incomplete
It's the Hitagi factor that drives the sales high.Hitagi is fearless while Mio is a girl with many phobia.
Hitagi vs Mio?
Fearless and phobia?
You gotta be kidding me.
Let's try:
Hitagi Senjogahara is a well developed, multi-dimensional, and unique character. She draws the audience with both her aesthetic appeal as well as her enigmatic personality.
Mio is a stereotype -> cute shy girl.
THE THRUTH.
[Cruise controll over]
OKAY! ENOUGH!
MIO AND HITAGI BOTH WIN! enuf said
We all love how Artafact makes It sound dirty but true.
The poor stream watchers and fansub lovers get the shafted version, while the proper dvd/bd buyers get the full version. Sounds reasonable?
BAKE FWD!
Wow just in time when I had a weird dream a while ago...
Senjougahara washing my back...
I know it's just a dream...
Anyway, I want a season 2!!! NAO!!!
Senjougahara? Do you mean Hitagi or her father? :D
LOOL
The girl, her father didn't show up.
It was only quick, I woke up after that scene...
you sure it wasn't her dad? the one with his rough hands scrubbing ur back and...?
Yeah sure.
His rough hands then slowly glided over your chest, and slowly dropped towards your groin, you then hear him say,
"Yaranaika?"
ichiro's avatar slowly cried...
The power of lolis!
Interesting Story, or Random Schoolgirl Band?
I think we know the winner, its just that Nadeko sealed the deal.
Bakemonogatari has one of the worst stories of any anime ever.
are you high?
One of the things that Anime fandom is plagued with is subjective comments such as these that offer no substantiation or qualification. At least put the words 'I feel that' inf ront of your sentence. For instance,
'I feel that Bakemonogatari has one of the worst stories of any anime ever.'
Fixed. At least this way, fans of the show will not feel bad for watching Bakemonogatari, but just hate on you instead.
And I suppose an anime like Lucky Star has a better story line?
Oh wait, Lucky Star has a story line?
fail again. lucky star is a gag anime. gag anime don't utilize storylines. instead, they take a fact and make something out of it.
before you bash anime, check the genre so you won't get hurt. -_-
oh look a troll
oh look someone who doesn't even know what is the worst about the story.
0/10
Bakemonogatari had a storyline? It was a freaking episodic anime. Senjogahara's character was the only thing that developed, and even that was way too incoherent and way too simplified for something that aims at being a convincing psychological drama.
Well it's episodic but does have some continuing plot points. If it was truly episodic then most of the Araragi's harem wouldn't be showing up in multiple arcs. The storyline is pretty much Arararagi(oops I stuttered) growing up, similar to FLCL. A perfect example is the Nadeko snake arc where he learned that he can't always save everybody or the Kanbaru arc where not everybody wants to be saved. There is also a major plot point at the end of the Cat arc which changes the dynamics as well. So yes it does have a storyline but it is more centered around characters and dialogue.
@Anon 02:51: Bakemonogatari doesn't "aim at being a psychological drama". I'd like to know just which show you were watching.
Actually Bakemono used the basic arc format so you had key focuses on particular girls during their arcs, it was not episodic. Most of their development occurred through their arc because you hardly saw them outside of it except for cases like Senjougahara and Tsubasa who were more frequent female lead characters along with of course Araragi as male lead.
I am unsure of what anime you were watching if you felt that people did not develop or if you thought it was a psychological drama. Neither of these were the case.
Ding! We have a winner. You also forgot interesting characters that evolve and a generally more interesting universe.
@i like pandas
"That's because Bakemonogatari has TWO factors pulling it to the top: Moe, and the key factor, an interesting storyline."
What part of bakemonogatari is moe? Are you one of those people that shout "moe! moe!" at everything?
Nadeko and Mayoi stick out(the OPs. Oh god the OPs). However the anime overall not really moe.
K-ON being a slice of life manga and with it's lack of "storyline" as some would call it, is what I like about it.
I Like that it's easy going and there's not too much drama in it, my life is shitty enough without worrying about other people's problems in fiction. People who don't have respect for this kind of genre obviously don't have as much experience with real life drama as those who think otherwise and appreciate it.
The problem is I can't really "relax" while watching Bakemonogatari, whereas K-ON is fairly relaxing. Sometimes you need to chill, and I'm willing to bet a lot of Japanese guys come home to K-On thinking the same thing.
If you want relaxing, you could always chill to a few episodes of Azumanga Daioh and feel your brain shutting down every time the camera focuses on Osaka =P
Pretty much any half baked ecchi or moe will give you that relaxing feeling simply cause there is nothing of substance to follow. It does not make it a good anime.
Bakemonogatari kills off people.
@i like pandas 01:25
Props to Bakemonogatari for interesting characters, interesting character interactions, and an interesting storyline.
I'll buy DVDs of that (as soon as they get to the U.S.).
I've also watched Lucky Star, Kannagi, Kei-On! -- once.
They're like fluffy little Mc-nuggets, kinda tasty, but not filling or satisfying, nor worth watching more than once.
Hitagi Senjougahara FTW!
Hitagi + Nadeko + Neko-Tsubasa + Shinobu + that other girl >>>>>>> Keion-bu
Also, I have heard people who don't like K-ON, but I have never heard anyone who don't like Bakemonogatari..
Bakemonogatari doesnt have THAT much moe
but I'd say Bakemonogatari has a very nice balance between moe and storyline
Heh, it seems quality and depth still win in front of dubious depictions of schoolgirls with unreasonable antics.
Both series like to make their fans wait,ONA and 2nd season in tandem...
Let's take a look at this logically. K-On!'s initial TV release was superb and nearly identical to the DVD/BR release, with only minor fixes to animation. But basically, you are buying what you see on television which, let's face it, most people have either downloaded or taped.
As for Bakemonogatari, what you see on TV is the incomplete, horrendously animated version versus the full/finalized version on DVD/BR. So, if you want to see it, you have to buy it. The more techno-minded will obviously download it, but not for the majority of the population.
Thus, we see that honest effort in the first go does not sell DVDs and it all comes down to cheap marketing tricks. Sales numbers thus do not reflect the 'goodness' of a show or it's popularity.
Just to clarify, I'm a huge fan of both series so my opinion and analysis is unbiased.
Sigh, shaft with their red/black screens...
You don't have to clarify. You have announced yourself to be a major moe fag since long ago from all your righteous moe ramblings.
At least I can appreciate all aspects of Anime. (^.^)
Yep, Actar is right much like their Konata avatar. The only fag here is you anon, I guess you just don't have the sophisticate taste to like and appreciate all genres on anime, so go back to watching Yu-Gi-Oh reruns.
Is it so bad that I actually liked the red/black screens? (except in the episode with Nadeko but after seeing screens it's obvious that may have actually been censoring) For the most part they were used just enough to act as an interesting element to the anime rather than a sign of something incomplete.
The voiceacting in the TV release of Bakemonogatari is still superb, and the pieces that they -did- animate were animated -really- -really- well, though. Even if even those get an overhaul in the BD release.
And the series itself is still good, despite the visual flaws everywhere. (And some of their improvisations are, as always, eccentric and almost artistic. Lol, noodles.) Also, omg, the OPs.
So even -if- the BD release is considerably 'upgraded', you know you're buying quality before even taking a peek at it.
Bullshit. Incomplete works tend to reduce sales as people think it's shit and move on. Not to mention how much pure effort went into these release is above and beyond the call of duty. Shaft redid the Nadeko snake arc, added a serious amount of scenes into the previous works and redrew much of the series. They earned their money. People like Bakemono for reasons pertaining to the characters and the universe itself and the effort Shaft has put into the BDs make people want to buy the BDs.
I highly doubt that all those people bought the BR's and DVD's for a few extra panels and not because they loved the show. K-ON had some extras also,
First volume didn't have any significant different between TV and BD except lighting/coloring in some scenes. So why did it still sell well?
The later volume had many fix because Shaft decided to use money they received from fans into a good use. This wasn't the first time Shaft did this. Basically, Shaft did this many time. Rather than calling it a marketing scheme, it was actually an incompetence of Shaft to manage their schedule.
maybe 'cause people want to re-watch, pause to pay attention to some details...IDK...that would be the reason for me to buy a the BD version of an anime (and the lack of censure also).
K-on aired at 02:00, Bakemonogatari at 23:00. 99 out of 100 people who buy Blu-rays and DVDs for both shows are otaku (of which I will safely? assume they're more ''techmoe-minded''). The more ''techno-minded'' people would download the BDs, no?
Anime Otaku is not synonymous with technophile.
I'm sure that there is a large overlap.