Man Charged with Assault for Picking Up Little Girl

So, if the father goes "I'm comming to get you!" in a playfull way and the girl runs and hides behind her mother.

The father is obviously assaulting his own daugther!

Well, it wouldn't be the first time for father getting in trouble for being with their daughter because of idiots sending the police on them...

People in developed societies have consequently become inept at dealing with situations on their own, always feeling the need to summon some higher or more professional authority to deal with everything. That's why people call the cops for the dumbest things (which is why America created a 311 line), and why we have a profession called "lactation consultants" -- a job that once belonged to grandma.

A stranger who pats your daughter on the head and lifts her up can be dealt with on your own, in a civil manner. But we as a people have long forgotten how to do just that.

LMAO at "I Like Pandas" comments.

Yes, we certainly have a few large kids around here..

As for the actual article, I'm not 100% sure on it. If a total stranger was to grab my child from behind I would at least intervene. It would really depend on the situation. In the extreme, a beat down is possible. But if I judge it to be mostly harmless it would only result in me asking them to refrain.

Frankly, I would never lay a finger on a kid I didn't know. Here in Texas, it could get you shot.

I don't want my kid to be scared of every person they see. I know that it is a fact that the VAST MAJORITY of child abuse is done at the family level. Outside the family that abuse is done people known to the family. This includes neighbors, relatives, and even clergy. The threat from a total stranger is so low that you get better odds to win the lottery. You're definitely a lot more likely to get hit by lightning.

For anyone that might be interested, go to you tube and do a search for "Penn and Teller's Bullshit". Look for the episode called "Stranger Danger" It'll show you how stupid this is getting.

I'm surprised to see genuinely good comments around here. Why doesn't Nocturne have +1.0 yet?

its 911! and just because people call it because a mcdonalds runs out of mcnuggets doesn't mean anything!!!

911 is for actual emergencies (medical/fires/crimes)
311 is for general and/or stupid shit

@Anonymous:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035315/Father-branded-pervert--photographing-children-public-park.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/3471263/Father-arrested-and-locked-in-a-cell-for-smacking-son.html

lol anyone else kept reading Chiba as Chibi?

being morbidly obsese is no laughing matter... unless it's funny

http://www.b4uact.org/facts.htm

well he was 51...

Why is it socially not acceptable?

We live in a society now where you are guilty until proven innocent. The intentions of wanting to be friendly to a child could only mean he wanted to rape her.

Because the citizens of the entire world are so up in arms about pedophiles, they sort of expect every man to be one simply because the media more-or-less tells them that. It's generally creepy.

I actually had a short discussion about this with a woman today. She was talking about how years ago, people weren't so over-protective of children because they didn't know about the dangerous pedophiles everywhere. She mentioned something about 3 registered sex offenders living in the small town I live in. I didn't bother to bring up the numerous holes in that:

- If they've been caught, they're being watched, and they aren't going to do it again in a hurry.
- Pedophiles are put on the sex offender's register for any fucking reaso these days.
- They're still humans, they have standards and morals, they aren't fucking lust-driven beasts, unlike a lot of men.

People are way too cautious. Pedophiles who would actually do anything horrible to a child are few and far between. Not to mention... doing shit like this won't have any effect. It's not like they're one-trick fucking ponies. It's incredibly easy to break straight through any defense a parent has if you have any scrap of intelligence. I swear, trust is really easy to gain if you're trying for it. Just takes time and careful planning.

Being so insanely overprotective is doing nothing but harming children in the long run.

So banks should hire ex-criminals charged with emblezzement and let them handle hundreds of millions? Hey, according to your logic, they've been caught before, so they aren't gonna do it again.

if you follow the banking news in the us that is exactly the hiring practice that wall street follows.

Sex offenders not likely to recommit an offense or being "less likely" to commit an offense than normal people is the stupidest fucking shit Ive ever heard. It sounds like youre trying to defend yourself as a sex offender by ignoring statistics and fact.

being falsely accused and still being convicted,locked up and going through out all that time never proven innocent.And then never having chance to work and being treated so by people.
Then why would they not try the crime they were falsely accused of if society already destroyed his life.

If I see a child dying on the street I will just walk away because I don't want to go to prison for trying to kidnap a dying child.

You'll be arrested for helping a dying child, and be looked down upon for ignoring the child's plight. So... damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Well, you *could* call an ambulance or the police to take care of it. Oh, wait...

So the optimal solution is to separate the children right after birth from everyone and keep them in an isolated cubicle until they get 18?

I agree with you, those paranoid people don't seem to understand that it gets very harmful if they trespass the limits of reason..

While you are calling the police to help the child someone else is calling the police because you *obviously* are taking out your cellphone to take pictures of the helpless child.

The first thing they tought me at first aid training is that it's my choice if I help somebody injured or not. You are legally allowed to walk away from somebody dying. But if you commit to helping them, you take on that responsibility, and you can be held responsible if you end up making it worse. So definitely be careful if you ever have to help someone!

You live in the US? I wonder how exactly it works there.

Here in the UK, failing to take action (i.e attempting to save someone's life) is not normally criminal unless you are under some kind of duty to act (it's part of your job's contract, you're related to the person in danger, you created the dangerous situation...)

I, as a member of the general public could therefore walk right past someone drowning in a canal without so much as even shouting for help, and I would be in no legal trouble at all.

as a nurse(male) and even if i don't have a job as it currently is.It is my duty to help people with first aid.If i walk away when somebody needs first aid and somebody reports me by knowing that i am a nurse,im screwed and would probably never be allowed to work as a nurse again,or lose the school degree?

Well i can still tell them to prove it that i was there,i mean why should we believe words.Unless somebody took pictures of me or recorded me.
Anyway i worry that i could do a mistake,i know most of the stuff that is needed to be done,but who says i will always know to do it right even if it is my job,not every nurse works at such places where there needs to be dealth with such emergiences.
Anyway i will be going on a course to become a massage therapist now,since they will pay all the costs for that course,because i am an apropiate candidate for that job :D
Oh btw i already helped someone with first aid and it was all okay.

As I've said before, this is where we are going with this anti-pedosexual NONSENSE. Some of these idiots need to realize that they are making FOOLS of themselves with things like this, and that everyone is realizing that this is NOT about protecting children anymore, but about keeping children celibate.

I mean, come on....... last I heard there was NOTHING wrong with playing with a child on a beach, I do that all the time in Ocean City and no one even bats an eye about it!

It's not the same in France, if you don't help someone in need of an assistance, you can be pursued for "unassistance to endangered person" . Lucky you !

What would happen if I just stand there and watch?

young girls grab people too you know haha

@ Anon 09:02 -

It might have turned out okay for you in that one incidence, but I was looking to go into the emergency medical field back when I was in college (had the necessary grades, but not enough financial backing). I can't tell you on hand how many horror stories I've heard of people suing the EMTs and Police who, even though it was to save their lives, broke a bone or two in the act of trying to save some people.

Those stories alone wouldn't have stopped me from becoming an EMT, but they didn't help. No Good Deed Goes Unpunished, indeed.

@10:04 -

Either someone else come and do assist, either the situation comes lethal and may not have if you'd assisted, and you're screwed.

Now frankly: the average person should know when it is unreasonable to move someone in need of assistance. If you can't move that person, don't even touch. Just call an ambulance, the police, secure the area the best you can, and never come any nearer to the victim than to talk. The victim's life is at stake here.
IF the victim really seems movable, would do a darn better to move, and can't do it by herself, THEN I guess it's better to move her first, in which case you might get arrested for assault. Then again, that won't happen if there's no witness. And if there are witnesses around, you'd better ask for and get help to move the victim. Who'd report you for assault then?

Bottomline: do what common sense tells you and helping someone in need of assistance should not backfire. It is in other situations that this kind of paranoia can get you arrested.

You should see how child abuse is in Texas. Texans believe that to strenghtin your children you have to beat them. That comes from a baptists religon by the way.

Where* Kind*

Okay, so where you guys are from it's considered normal to go up to someone's ten year old child at a beach and pick them up from behind? Videotape yourself doing it and show us all the results.

a 51 year old guy ? They can get away with those kind of things as much as women. There's the concept to old peeps like to play with kids... Im from africa.

Japanisokay, I really hope this leads to some sort of Youtube movement- set up a camera, find a child to talk to, pat her head, then pick her up and run away. Beaches are just the beginning- think restaurants, theme parks, department stores... the mind boggles.

For best effects, put video to "Yakety Sax"