Capcom: “Xbox Cuts Made Us Weep, Enjoy Buying DLC!”

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Capcom has publically lamented having to cut large amounts of content from Lost Planet 2 in order to fit it onto the Xbox 360’s piddling DVD capacity without the game turning into a swapfest, but promises users will be able to buy everything they cut as DLC.

Speaking with rag Famitsu about the production of Lost Planet 2, now in the fine-tuning stages, producer Jun Takeuchi complains of the constraints imposed by Microsoft’s refusal to employ Blu-ray; in previous interviews he made much the same comments about Resident Evil 5, saying he would like to see a “complete” version on the PS3…

Did the development go well?

There weren’t any big problems. More troubling than any development problems was having to keep cutting out content.

We included a lot in this release, and by the end it became a battle with the disc capacity.

Truly, we were weeping as we were forced to cut stuff.

That stuff might be available as DLC in the future – look forward to it.

Buying content which Capcom couldn’t fit onto the Xbox 360’s DVD as DLC – certainly something to look forward to.


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    Comment by Zavalix
    13:13 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lost planet 2?, more like "lost data too"

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    Comment by Random Guy
    13:23 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahah good one

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:47 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh my holy god, LOOK AT THAT RROD, IT LOOKS LIKE AN UPSIDE DOWN SMILING FACE, HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS BEFORE.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:25 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks like your holy god failed to protect your keyboard from the caps lock demon.

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    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    17:35 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He failed at all caps.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think he had to shout to portray his utter astonishment at the smiling RROD :o)

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:25 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    more money into the pockets of microscum and crapcom. Let the reaping begin.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    10:17 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    xbox is mocking you. look at the red ring of death on the picture. it is actually a smiley face sideways. :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:11 20/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Capcom I got a Question for you for lost planet 2.

    Can the xbox 360 install games on HDD?...

    Yes of course it can. Then your argument is complete pile of shit, you fucking lazy bastards.

    Your just making money off of Xbox360 owners. Thank you for making money out of us.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:25 20/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't see how the xbox having a hard drive is going to magically let them fit everything on to the dvd.

    Although I reckon if they tried really hard and utilized some bleeding-edge compression technology they might be able to pull it off, at the expense of either on-the-fly decompression or forced installation. Or even dynamic texture generation techniques, like the demoscene uses. [asside: If you don't know anything about this geek subculture, I'd suggest checking out conspiracy.hu for some pro stuff, or pouet.net / scene.org for a more general picture.]

    Echelon managed some awesome shit back in the day, for their release of Skies of Arcadia they coded in on-the-fly decompression of game data so you could burn the game discs on to standard 700MB CD-Rs and just play it. (note: commercial Dreamcast discs could hold ~1GB)

    But all this aside, making the stuff available as DLC sounds reasonable, preferably as free DLC.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:52 20/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think what that other person was meant was that if the content that had to be LEFT OUT will become DLCs which you download and install onto your console, why not just put all that stuff on a second disc that would be included with the game so instead of paying/downloading the DLC, it's already there for you to install anyway?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:53 21/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As 18:52 pointed out I meant this.

    Why put it as downloadable content when we can bloody install the game on to our harddrives like the PS3 why does the PS3 get the content which has to be installed on the HDD anyways see my point?

    Like in multiple discs game you can install it on the HDD and don't have to switch discs and it seems like ALL OF SANKAKU COMPLEX JAPAN and everyone else not Western seem to be oblivious to the fact that Xbox 360 can install Games to the HDD not needing to change discs. Yet you have to install it on the PS3 anyways go figure.

    Sorry for sounding like an ass but it seems everyone's forgetting basic things the console can do besides RROD.

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    Comment by FoolyDooly
    13:24 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    why am I not surprised that M$ is wanting your money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:29 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    To be fair, Capcom made the game, though I don't think Disc-swapping bothers people as much I they say it does.

    I myself feel like disc swapping is a decent way of measuring the game length. (Though, I mean more like Tales of Symphonia, which has most of the game on one disc then basically the wrap-up on another... not like Mass Effect 2 which I'm told is basically game on one disc with occasional switching to the other for CG cutscenes)

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    Comment by Ciscotaku
    14:41 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    swapping discs sucks, i hated doing so in mass effect 2.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:23 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah! Because I'm so lazy to get up out of my lazy ass to switch a fucking disk.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:03 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Obviously American

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:10 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hell yes I'm lazy. I don't want to mess the mold that my arse has shaped on the couch. You must know how long it takes to find the sweet spot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The ONLY people with disc swapping problems are lazy fuckers who can't pull themselves out of their couch ass mold.

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    Comment by A10WortHog
    17:42 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF9 had 4 discs to change through, and the only part that sucked about that was when I lost disk 3 and 4.
    The xbox is aging alright, but considering project natal is still on its way out, MS is probably going to try and drag at least another 3 years out the old bird. the xbox was a touch ahead of its time when it came out, IE the system failures, but now the PS3 is pulling ahead.

    I have both platforms, and I find that there are a larger number of hard core gamers on the 360.
    what was my point again? awww fuck it, i'll just go play Shuffle.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:55 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If LP2 is anything like the original, it's a lot more linear than ME2. I don't see the problem with one disc swap after the first half of the game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:19 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    doesnt bother ppl? have you tried to play mass effect 2 with 1.6 and an active.iso? its f#%@ annoying as hell.

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    Comment by klado
    05:54 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i really really laugh hard to the fckers of xbox users that support the fact of changing DISC....OVER NOT fcking CHANGING THEM...fck it is like staying with the W/B screen instead of an W/C screen fck you tards, im not in the wills of staying doing the same as the last gen made me to...you very laid in your bed while playing...then...please swap to disc two...my my, were times with FF games...but as these games remark their ages freaking old to be changing disc for be playing my fcking games,

    example star gimpocean 4 the last gimp, so by your logic it doesn't you all love the fuss that this game did!!!!xbox360 is just a last gen console, i really bear´d with it at ps2 gen, but now, beats me btches.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:16 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    what the fuck are you trying to say? you make no sense.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:57 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ Greatest question ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:47 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I second that, I couldn't catch on to anything that guy was trying to point out at all. ._. Anybody speak fluent retard? o:

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:57 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Anybody speak fluent retard?"
    I don't. Otherwise I'd be playing PS3 right now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:30 20/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You might be playing your 360 too, if that shoddy piece of crap doesn't crash on you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:12 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You heard wrong. In Mass Effect 2, the entire game was on one disc. Disc 2 was for Loyalty quests, which were the optional "I want ppl to survive this shit" disc. So you only ever swapped discs 2 times. Installing shit on PS3 and the slow ass disc read is worse than swapping. Nobody bitched about FF7 8 and 9 did they.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:33 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    KZ2, Uncharted 1 and 2, MAG, and effing more of a long list that I won't waste my time making for you say 'HI!' They got no installs, and hardly any load times. It is more to how talented the developers are/how new is their development kit(e.g. MGS4 is great and all, but had installs/load times, but hey that was years ago.

    So 2007 is calling for you, they want you back.

    People think it is so easy to put an extra disc. No, it is not that easy. They will have to pay more fees to MS as well as not going the easy/greedy way of DLC which considerably cuts into their profits.
    Like it or not, The 360 DVD's format has been holding back many of the 3rd party games.

    "But but but blu-ray isn't needed"

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:33 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lets play a more fun game.

    WKC takes an install. Why? Who knows. It also loads like utter shit.

    The difference between a majority of PS3 games and the ones you listed... are the ones you listed took several /years/ of code optimization to make them capable of not requiring an install. Yes, literally years.

    Unless it's a slow paced game, or the developers have spent so much time on simple code optimization that they could have produced a second game, the PS3 slow-as-ass disk load speed is horribly crippling.

    Sorry, you, I, and anyone with a brain knows they could have just as easily did a Forza and made a content disk or any such thing. Capcom chose to do it this way to make more money, and they needed an excuse. They used the easiest scapegoat. The 360, which no one in Japan cares about anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:31 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uncharted 1 took less than two years, and so did Uncharted 2 after it. Both Motorstorm games took less than two years each. Heavenly sword took less than two years, and if I remember right, it had no installs. Resistance 1 was a launch game and I don't think it had installs, R2 took less than two years to make.
    Retachet and Clank series is knocking on the front door.

    Hey, this is more fun!

    Your argument is severly flowed. When uncharted 1 was done, they already have an engine going for uncharted 2, so it was faster to make a new game. Same goes with Resistance and Motorstorm. KZ2 was built from the ground up = result after 3 years of work. KZ3 will take much less time to be made.

    And you completely ignored this part:
    "People think it is so easy to put an extra disc. No, it is not that easy. They will have to pay more fees to MS as well as not going the easy/greedy way of DLC which considerably cuts into their profits.
    Like it or not, The 360 DVD's format has been holding back many of the 3rd party games."

    Forza is published by Microsoft, so no fees.
    Had you said MassEffect 2 it would have seemed a better example, but then Campcom were making budget cuts and other choices(Transfer Monster Hunter 3 development from the PS3 to the Wii, cheaper), so it was just a matter of time for them to find ways to be greedy like now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    last i checked uncharted only took 2 years. thats an average time line for such an awesome game. and what about MW2 no install and load times are fast.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:08 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh and another thing i dont get is why every one says that a bluray drive reads so slow. when i checked the specs of data transfer of a DVD drive to blu ray, blu ray was faster
    blu ray data transfer rate:36mbps
    DVD data transfer rate: 10mbps

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    Comment by klado
    06:00 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just leve that tard box feel good with his console choice...they are like blind of being stupid

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:52 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You dumbass, DVD speeds at 1x and blu ray oat 1x, blue ray is faster. But at DVD x12 and Bluray x1, blue ray is slow as shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:26 22/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "...They got no installs, and hardly any load times" Bullshit KZ2 had a ridiculously loooong loading time at the start of every stage and when loading from the main menu. You have spent too much time in Multiplayer recently, which, understandably, doesn't have this nuance.

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    Comment by MARl0
    13:30 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is Capcom we're talking about, not M$. It's true that M$ will make a small profit from the DLC that Capcom sells, but I seriously doubt that M$ used the DVD format specifically for that ridiculous purpose (keep in mind that the 360 is a console that is 5 years old already).

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    Comment by FoolyDooly
    13:52 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    M$ makes most money from DLC, not producers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:33 05/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yep dlc will be most likely be 800 msp u have to buy 1200 to get it. m$ makes a profit!

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    Comment by TNinja
    15:38 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, I give them props for surviving for 5 years. It is kinda falling, but they still survived for this long. So the console can't be so bad.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:37 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The ONLY people that say the xbox is failing, are the clueless ps3 fanboys who have nothing else to whine about. You are the same types that bitched and moaned about how "shitty" ToV and SO4 were, and when you heard they were coming out on PS3, suddenly they were OMG SUCH GOOD RPGS. You are all a bunch of pathetic cry babies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    fanboy much? stupid redneck motherfucker!

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    Comment by Kixiv
    10:15 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    how the fuck is that being a redneck?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:51 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anonymous, person 2 boxes above Phantom, ToV and SO4 actually came out a lot better on the PS3 than the 360 versions, a reason to get excited, more content better graphics, more options, so, I don't really get what the point your trying to make is, except for 360 failing, even though it is, going down, and is seriously starting to show its age, limitations, and restrictions.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:25 20/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anonymous 13:51, I wonder why ToV and SO4 came out better on the PS3? I doubt it could be because they had an extra year or so to work on them or the fact that they are just actually just ports of a finished product with some added content. The 360 is weaker than the PS3, but not by much, the ONLY thing showing its age is the DVD drive and that can be fixed by using multiple disks. But when companies can just cut the content and sell it later instead of selling it all in one go they decide to just ignore that little fact.

    Comment by Schrobby
    13:27 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I bet they already develop a new Xbox with bluray and fullHD...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:14 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Xbox 1080 Philanthropic Edition.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:16 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sony monopolized blu ray. Which is why the format will never boom as it could possibly be because nobody wants to fucking pay royalties every time they make a god damn game. Also why nobody including nintendo and microsoft will ever use it. Too bad too considering this is sony we're talking about, and they're infamous for fucking up format standardization. COUGH UMD COUGH

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:51 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking up format standardization? lol. Who do you think invented and developed the DVD silly anon?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:34 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, Toshiba invented and developed DVD my friend

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:53 19/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol owned

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:42 18/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Xbox not full HD?
    My god you fail so hard.
    The term Full HD makes absolutely no sense anyway, and is only used by Walmart, Tesco, Curries and other companies to pedal there wares to stupid consumer whores.
    Lrn 2 techmonolagy.
    You people make me feel ashamed to own a PS3

    P.s
    There are 3 different ways I can think of that Capcom could have handled this.

    1. Forza3, ODST etc have 2 disk's one for the game its self and the main missions, tracks and cars. And a second disk containing the extra content, like online multi player maps , etc.

    2. Bioware have an in game DLC portal in both Dragon age and ME2. With ME you received a one use activation code to down load all the content for free, and second hand owners need to activate it for 1200MSp
    Every one here make me ashamed to own a PS3.

    3. Lion-head studios developed a new method of compression for Fable2. Reducing textures and coding down to about 1% of the original file size letting them have Fable 2 on the one disk.

    So it's not the 360s fault not every one is willing to let go of DLC sales and introduce new space saving technology.






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