Capcom has publically lamented having to cut large amounts of content from Lost Planet 2 in order to fit it onto the Xbox 360’s piddling DVD capacity without the game turning into a swapfest, but promises users will be able to buy everything they cut as DLC.
Speaking with rag Famitsu about the production of Lost Planet 2, now in the fine-tuning stages, producer Jun Takeuchi complains of the constraints imposed by Microsoft’s refusal to employ Blu-ray; in previous interviews he made much the same comments about Resident Evil 5, saying he would like to see a “complete” version on the PS3…
Did the development go well?
There weren’t any big problems. More troubling than any development problems was having to keep cutting out content.
We included a lot in this release, and by the end it became a battle with the disc capacity.
Truly, we were weeping as we were forced to cut stuff.
That stuff might be available as DLC in the future – look forward to it.
Buying content which Capcom couldn’t fit onto the Xbox 360’s DVD as DLC – certainly something to look forward to.
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i think capcom is telling the truth. i mean why even mention this and make people think there lying? dvd has been really showing its age as of late.
Ohh, I don't know... in order to have an excuse to sell us accessory, installable stuff that should be bundled alongside the game itself in the first place and milk us for all we're worth, Capcom-style, maybe?
This is obviously bullshit to misdirect stupid and gullible consumers. There's NO 'CANT FIT' in game consoles today when you have discs AND hard drive storage. There's only 'WONT FIT' or more accurately 'WANT MORE MONEY'.
Capcom is an experienced developer who obviously knows how to break a game up to fit multiple discs, or to pipe content to the hard drive for later use during play. The ONLY reason to remove content in the 21st century is because you want to sell it separately.
I shall wait for a 'complete' version, if any
Haha, Takeuchi is so full of shit!
Just look at Forza Motorsport 3, Turn 10 stuffed a whole second disc worth of content to be installed in the console's HDD and no one complained: they really got A+ treatment.
Now, was there anything preventing Capcom from releasing Street Fighter IV as they'll very soon rerelease it ("Super" SFIV)? Or Resident Evil 5 (the upcoming Gold Edition, crappily bundled in one disc with a download token instead of an "additional contents install" disc)? Or was there something preventing Bandai Namco from "unlocking" its system exclusive character in SoulCalibur IV from the get-go, and the only way to lift the lock was to stuff an additional US $5 into NBGI's pockets?
This is the con generation, period. Not that companies like Squeer (and especially Squeer Enix) haven't conned their loyal fans before, but there was some kind nebulous excuse in the form of systems lacking mass storage. Nowadays, though... this is just some laughable swindle, like Nintendo's reselling of GameCubes with a stupid, useless magic wand and at a premium.
So yeah. Fucking lol.
What a load of shit. They just want to sell DLC, don't blame it on the lack of Blu-ray.
They could offer it for free or they could have done what microsoft did with forza.
I love how M$ fanboys justify disc swapping and come up with BS comments like "I enjoy disc swapping, it makes you feel the length of the game".
Or we just think "I'd prefer to swap discs than pay money to download the stuff".
Game graphics aren't at the point where BluRay is an absolute necessity. The vast majority of games produced for the Xbox 360 fit on a single disc, which is proof that having the increased storage of the format isn't yet necessary. Yes, it'd be nice if we could get our occasionally large game on one disc, but swapping discs is not, despite what Sony will tell you, a new problem which is absolutely terrible.
We were swapping discs way back on the PS1 and Saturn. We still were with the Gamecube and PS2. We're doing it now with the Xbox 360 and Wii. We'll still be doing it next generation when Squaresoft and other companies decide to push the boundaries of the storage format for the games to make the next "Biggest Game Evar".
And really... It's not like you have to swap the discs often on any system. How fucking lazy are you that having to actually get up off your couch and move once after a few hours of playing a game is an unforgivable offense? Don't you occasionally get up to answer the phone, grab a beer, use the pisser, or anything else?
I'll take having to move once every six to eight hours for the occasional game to mandatory, 20 minute installations before I can even play for the occasional game. I mean, as problems go, Mandatory Installations are a much bigger, more pain-in-the-ass problem.
Halo 3 ODST managed to do this just fine. It's not complex.
Single Player stuff on one disc, Multiplayer stuff on the other. It saves the user from having to swap the disc unnecessarily.
*facepalm*
It's not complex.
So, if you buy the PS3 version, you get the full game, but if you buy the 360 version, parts of the game will be missing, so does that mean the 360 version will be cheaper? I can't see it to be honest, so this looks like it's going to be a nice day at the office for Capcom (to make more money). I think most of Capcom's games over the last few years have been poor to average, it's been a long time since I enjoyed a Capcom game (probably Onimusha 2 or Devil May Cry on the PS2). All the rumours about Micro$oft releasing a Blu-ray 360 is never going to happen as why would Micro$oft give it's money to Sony? I'm still convinced that at some point, there's going to be another format war as Blu-ray hasn't really taken off, DVD is still the top format out there.
Capcom DLC's . Everyones remember they fameous DLCs to RE5 or SF4 :] . Everythins was on a disk . From this multiplayer mode in RE5 to new player skins in SF4 :] . I'll be not surprised if the same happen in Lost Planet 2 xD .
they are just greedy! they could fit all that content into a dvd that installs on the harddrive!
whats dlc?
DLC = Downloadable Content
Some video games are 10 hours long. I know I can manage the severe inconvenience of moving five feet to swap disks every 10 hours with the knowledge I only had to buy one game (not DLC, expacs, sequels). It might even be about time for a bathroom break while I'm at it.
Do they actually mention *buying* the DLC? I searched the link for 買 but got bored
If it's just a download then I don't see the problem (other than that putting it on two discs would be better than having us download up to 9gb of extra stuff), but if they try and charge for stuff they took out just because the media can't hold enough...
They should just winrar everything, that'll get it onto one disc easily. Winrar's ace.
Naturally, both versions will be the same price at retail. I'm glad I don't like Lost Planet enough, otherwise I may be fuming!
idiots that buy a shitty system deserve to get a half assed game
Meh, just gonna wait for the PC version of this, I think it's supposed to come out within one month of the console version.
Y'know, no disc size limits when buying from Steam!
The 360 is a piece of shit, admit it.
It's a good thing I have all the next-gen systems...
You never know when the platform the game you will buy
would have problems like these...
Just dropping by to see that cute Deathsmile pic...
Should have just cut the content they didnt think was needed on the first disc, put it on a second disc and tell you to install it on the harddrive. Kind of like what Forza 3 did.
Lost Planet is a 360 franchise. If Capcom does this, I might consider boycotting this game
a bit off topic but this website is pretty %^$&ed up lol just saw the ads on the side
Why can't they just make a dvd full of the cut, soon to be DLC, stuff for the sole purpose of downloading it onto the hard drive. So make a DLC DVD put everything on the harddrive put the game disk in and statrt playing without a swapfeast and waiting to buy the DLC.(just guessing that microsoft is going to make people pay for the cut contents.)
Lost Odyssey came on 4 disks for the xbox360 if i remember correctly. Did anyone find that a problem? i didn't!
Besides have you seen how many people are in a games credits these days? that's a lot of people all wanting a cut of each sale so its saddening to see gamers getting squeezed with these business models. :(
console wars are for poor people who can't afford to buy multiple consoles. Being restricted to one console brings out certain envious feelings and to make there single console more tolerable they try and justify there purchase to make them selves feel better. Its really not that hard to work out. its nice to be able to play the games you want and to not have to compromise muahahahahahahaha
LMAO!! Xbox LOL!!!
All this DLC is going to kill me. I just hope it doesn't drag the industry down.
the only people who like changing disc's are retards with the motoring skills of a deformed chimp. basically everyone who owns an xbox.
I guess you never owned a Commodore, early Apple, or PC then eh? Even fairly recently before DVD drives were popular in PCs, we were swapping discs like mad just to get games installed... Remember the UT 2k4 CD set? Seven bloody discs.
You know... Microsoft should have kept the hd-dvd format alive as a proprietary game format for the 360 while leaving the drive itself backward compatible with video DVDs and older xbox game DVDs. Why didn't they do this? Both the external drive and an internal drive model would have worked fine, but no.
Capcom is playing harsh, ha? If they are not able to fit everything on one/multiple discs or something, then they shouldnt blame the 360...they could also bring the dlc for free.
I mean, the 360 gamers (I'm not one of them,btw) are not forced to buy the game and still they are not "threatening".
Objective-view gamer
wow xbox sucks. Im so glad people are finally starting to relize that this. xbox is holding ps3 developement back I dont want to have to buy DLC because it woulndt fit and I know that other devs have had this problem but didnt come out and say it like capcom did. I didnt really start getting pissed off with this until microsoft ruined Final Fantasy 13 by paying square alot of money to keeping it three discs on there crappy syestem in turn making square cut alot of the game that could of fit on one blu ray disc. I hate what xbox has done for gaming.
Agreed, the Xbox 360 should have had a built in HD-DVD drive, and cemented a place for the dying format to go. I mean Microsoft isn't gonna licence BluRay from Sony, no chance in hell.
Break out those old HD-DVD drives, and pack in a drive with a big game. Lets bring HD-DVD back from the dead!
It's a great idea, but MS missed their fucking chance. Also, the read times for HD-DVD were faster.
It would have worked beautifully.
I wish they would do what FFXI did. That game was too big for the 360's DVD and so you had to download some of the game. I think some PS3 games do this as well to some degree. It's free too, it would work just fine.
Free DLC because it couldn't be included on the disk.
but the problem is...
they most likely wont
they'll prolly make us pay some extra 10-20 bucks per new mission or so
then you go from spending 60 bucks on a game, to over 100, just because the damn thing wasn't on a disc with more room
Not to mention that you have to keep in mind that the space adds up quickly, filling your HDD faster than you'd expect. It works alright with the PS3 because you can upgrade the HDD any way you want, to mostly and size you want, but M$ forces you to buy through them, with a limited selection and all over priced, or else you get banned from live for "modifying your system".
Example: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/09/microsoft-bans-xbox-360-pirates-from-own-hard-disks/
(Meant to add it to previous post but I didn't realize I wasn't logged in)
And 30 years from now, you find your then old PS3/360 in your closet and suddenly feels like playing all the games again, but you can't, because the servers are already long dead, and then you have with you a piece of brick you once called game.
I didn't think that you have validate your games on your ps3 after you install them. Which I can leave installed. I know there's something about validation for xbla games though...
Or, y'know, we could start the forward trend to multi-disc games again. But here's the thing: People these days get all pissy if they have to swap DVDs, because that means moving their fat arses off the couch. Yet there was a stage where people were overjoyed by multiple discs (and floppy disks too, further back).
Final Fantasy VII came on... three, four? CDs, VIII came on four. Phantasmagoria, shit though it was, came on something like seven or eight disks!
But why press an extra DVD when you can charge ridiculous prices for DLC, amirite?
Actually I think one of the biggest issues with the multi disc approach is people frequently lost one or scratch one etc..., and if you loose one, you can't play the damn thing. Its a matter of how much you have to deal with, and lets face it, organization is the last thing a gamer understands.
I'm guessing MS has strict "guidelines" in place about having multi-disc games...
And Final Fantasy XIII comes on 3 DVDs
Not necessarily. Mass Effect 2 comes on two DVDs.
And every single game that will ever be made will come on 1 Blu Ray disc
yeah
and in the cases of old PC games, you had to switch disks ALL the time
honestly, it brings back BAD memories for some of us
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